Re: Laptop with external monitor, how to make it work

2010-12-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote:


 I'm looking for a description on how to make the switching between monitors
 work. In my case it's the key combination Fn + F8 on a Dell Latitude E6500.

 Any help appreciated :-)


On my dell laptop, the monitor must be connected when X is started for the
function key toggle to work.


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AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Da Rock
I know its a little OT, but I'm hunting for a mainboard to plug this CPU 
into and build a file server. So the ideal specs are (and maybe dreaming 
too :) ):


184 pin RAM DIMM
SataIII 4+ ports
Either onboard or AGP Video
2x Gigabit LAN

Obviously I don't need much RAM, just juice the throughput from the HDD 
to the LAN, and plenty of bandwidth. That said a lot of my specs could 
be pipe dreaming, I know. I'm looking at 3x 2Tb Seagate 64Mb SATAIII's 
so I'd rather not waste it, I'm sure you'd agree.


I'll be setting up RAID5 in some fashion or other, just still choosing 
my method between ZFS and VINUM or something. So the need for as many 
SATA ports is a must :)


Any help finding a suitable model would be much appreciated- very hard 
to find anything still in stock. And of course advice will be very 
welcome :)


Cheers
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AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Da Rock
I know its a little OT, but I'm hunting for a mainboard to plug this CPU 
into and build a file server. So the ideal specs are (and maybe dreaming 
too :) ):


184 pin RAM DIMM
SataIII 4+ ports
Either onboard or AGP Video
2x Gigabit LAN

Obviously I don't need much RAM, just juice the throughput from the HDD 
to the LAN, and plenty of bandwidth. That said a lot of my specs could 
be pipe dreaming, I know. I'm looking at 3x 2Tb Seagate 64Mb SATAIII's 
so I'd rather not waste it, I'm sure you'd agree.


I'll be setting up RAID5 in some fashion or other, just still choosing 
my method between ZFS and VINUM or something. So the need for as many 
SATA ports is a must :)


Any help finding a suitable model would be much appreciated- very hard 
to find anything still in stock. And of course advice will be very 
welcome :)


Cheers
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Re: Laptop with external monitor, how to make it work

2010-12-23 Thread Leslie Jensen



On 2010-12-23 09:11, Adam Vande More wrote:

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Leslie Jensenles...@eskk.nu  wrote:



I'm looking for a description on how to make the switching between monitors
work. In my case it's the key combination Fn + F8 on a Dell Latitude E6500.

Any help appreciated :-)



On my dell laptop, the monitor must be connected when X is started for the
function key toggle to work.




You're right! I'm on a KVM switch and I booted the laptop while working 
with another PC.


Thanks :-)

/Leslie

PS: Is it a lot of work to get the key combination to work?
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Re: Laptop with external monitor, how to make it work

2010-12-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 08:32:12AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
 I'm looking for a description on how to make the switching between 
 monitors work. In my case it's the key combination Fn + F8 on a Dell 
 Latitude E6500.

Try xrandr(1) instead. That should work even if you're not booting with the
external monitor connected

I've used the following to get my laptop desktop (1366x768) to show up on a
beamer which has a lower resolution (1024x768).

xrandr --output VGA-0 --same-as LVDS --scale 1.33x1 --verbose

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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 December 2010 08:23, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
 I know its a little OT, but I'm hunting for a mainboard to plug this CPU
 into and build a file server. So the ideal specs are (and maybe dreaming too
 :) ):

 184 pin RAM DIMM
 SataIII 4+ ports
 Either onboard or AGP Video
 2x Gigabit LAN

 Obviously I don't need much RAM, just juice the throughput from the HDD to
 the LAN, and plenty of bandwidth. That said a lot of my specs could be pipe
 dreaming, I know. I'm looking at 3x 2Tb Seagate 64Mb SATAIII's so I'd rather
 not waste it, I'm sure you'd agree.

 I'll be setting up RAID5 in some fashion or other, just still choosing my
 method between ZFS and VINUM or something. So the need for as many SATA
 ports is a must :)

 Any help finding a suitable model would be much appreciated- very hard to
 find anything still in stock. And of course advice will be very welcome :)

 Cheers

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ASUS-K8N-AMD-Socket-754-AGP-SATA-nForce3-250-MB-EMS-/220703726350?pt=AU_Componentshash=item3362f79b0e#ht_5060wt_1138

I just searched for 754 SATA on ebay.com.au

You _are_ dreaming about the 4x SATA though IMO; I'd just get an expansion card.

Or get a cheap bundle with new MB/CPU; it's not always worth salvaging
an old CPU like that.

Chris
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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Da Rock

On 12/23/10 21:36, Chris Rees wrote:

On 23 December 2010 08:23, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au  wrote:
   

I know its a little OT, but I'm hunting for a mainboard to plug this CPU
into and build a file server. So the ideal specs are (and maybe dreaming too
:) ):

184 pin RAM DIMM
SataIII 4+ ports
Either onboard or AGP Video
2x Gigabit LAN

Obviously I don't need much RAM, just juice the throughput from the HDD to
the LAN, and plenty of bandwidth. That said a lot of my specs could be pipe
dreaming, I know. I'm looking at 3x 2Tb Seagate 64Mb SATAIII's so I'd rather
not waste it, I'm sure you'd agree.

I'll be setting up RAID5 in some fashion or other, just still choosing my
method between ZFS and VINUM or something. So the need for as many SATA
ports is a must :)

Any help finding a suitable model would be much appreciated- very hard to
find anything still in stock. And of course advice will be very welcome :)

Cheers
 

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ASUS-K8N-AMD-Socket-754-AGP-SATA-nForce3-250-MB-EMS-/220703726350?pt=AU_Componentshash=item3362f79b0e#ht_5060wt_1138

I just searched for 754 SATA on ebay.com.au

You _are_ dreaming about the 4x SATA though IMO; I'd just get an expansion card.

Or get a cheap bundle with new MB/CPU; it's not always worth salvaging
an old CPU like that.

Chris
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Thanks, but Athlon64 is a 939. Yeah, it may not be worth salvaging, but 
I thought the cost might be less... I'm more than likely wrong. Worth 
putting feelers out, though :)


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Completely remove user from system

2010-12-23 Thread itpr0
Hi list,

We are using postfix with system user authentication, I have to completely
remove an user for the system so he couldn't auth to send e-mails.

Some coworkers told to just remove the lines from /etc/passwd and
/etc/master.passwd... I did that but the user still can authenticate.

using pw user show XXX returns that still have a register from the user
XXX but trying the pw user del XXX it says there is no such user..

I tried rmuser and here is the return:

# rmuser XXX
Matching password entry:

XXX:*:20887:1014::0:0:X X:/home/XXX:/nonexistent

Is this the entry you wish to remove? y
Remove user's home directory (/home/)? y
Removing user (XXX): home passwdpw: user 'XXX' does not exist: No such file
or directory

There is any other thing that I can do to completely remove this user? It's
urgent 'cos it's sending a lot of spam mails :( and our server administrator
is on vacation :/
Thank you.
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Re: Completely remove user from system

2010-12-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:06:31AM -0200, itpr0 wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 We are using postfix with system user authentication, I have to completely
 remove an user for the system so he couldn't auth to send e-mails.
 
 Some coworkers told to just remove the lines from /etc/passwd and
 /etc/master.passwd... I did that but the user still can authenticate.
 
 using pw user show XXX returns that still have a register from the user
 XXX but trying the pw user del XXX it says there is no such user..
 
 I tried rmuser and here is the return:
 
 # rmuser XXX
 Matching password entry:
 
 XXX:*:20887:1014::0:0:X X:/home/XXX:/nonexistent
 
 Is this the entry you wish to remove? y
 Remove user's home directory (/home/)? y
 Removing user (XXX): home passwdpw: user 'XXX' does not exist: No such file
 or directory
 
 There is any other thing that I can do to completely remove this user? It's
 urgent 'cos it's sending a lot of spam mails :( and our server administrator
 is on vacation :/
 Thank you.

After modifying /etc/master.passwd, you need to run pwd_mkdb(8):

pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

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Re: Completely remove user from system

2010-12-23 Thread Igor V. Ruzanov
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2010, itpr0 wrote:

|Hi list,
|
|We are using postfix with system user authentication, I have to completely
|remove an user for the system so he couldn't auth to send e-mails.
|
|Some coworkers told to just remove the lines from /etc/passwd and
|/etc/master.passwd... I did that but the user still can authenticate.
|
|using pw user show XXX returns that still have a register from the user
|XXX but trying the pw user del XXX it says there is no such user..
|
|I tried rmuser and here is the return:
|
|# rmuser XXX
|Matching password entry:
|
|XXX:*:20887:1014::0:0:X X:/home/XXX:/nonexistent
|
|Is this the entry you wish to remove? y
|Remove user's home directory (/home/)? y
|Removing user (XXX): home passwdpw: user 'XXX' does not exist: No such file
|or directory
|
One of simpliest ways to remove user is the `vipw' command. vipw opens 
master.passwd file in vi editor. After removing nesessary string vipw 
rebuild user's database. After that your can just remove user's home 
directory and even say locate.updatedb if you don't want to see removed 
user via `locate' :)

+---+
! CANMOS ISP Network!
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! Best regards  !
! Igor V. Ruzanov, network operational staff!
! e-Mail: ig...@canmos.ru   !
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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 December 2010 11:44, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
snip

 Thanks, but Athlon64 is a 939. Yeah, it may not be worth salvaging, but I
 thought the cost might be less... I'm more than likely wrong. Worth putting
 feelers out, though :)


Athlon64s can be 754, 939 or AM2. Perhaps you meant *your* Athlon64 is a 939?

Sorry you're not having much luck.

If I knew the Aussie market I'd help you to pick something comparable,
but that's better left to someone more local for you!

Hope you get some results soon.

Chris
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Re: Well, I broke it! FreeBSD V8.1 release

2010-12-23 Thread Dave
On 22 Dec 2010 at 9:49, Chris Brennan wrote:

 IIRC ';' isn't a valid bash comment ... (which has been previously
 discussed elsewhere). It's usually safer to use '#' for  comment in
 /etc/rc.conf and other system config files as they typically use BASH
 style structs.
 

Accepted and acknowledged as my finger trouble.
As earlier, that issue is now fixed.

Thanks.

Dave B.

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Re: Completely remove user from system

2010-12-23 Thread Robert Huff

Igor V. Ruzanov writes:

  One of simpliest ways to remove user is the `vipw' command. vipw
  opens master.passwd file in vi editor. 

Though it's called vipw, it will try to use any program
pointed to by the EDITOR environment variable.

Respectfully,


Robert setenv EDITOR xemacs Huff

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RE: Which network driver for RTL8211 or 8201 NIC's?

2010-12-23 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: Mike Clarke [mailto:jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk] 
Sent: 22 December 2010 21:46
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Which network driver for RTL8211 or 8201 NIC's?


I need to replace a failing motherboard. I'm aiming to keep the existing

Athlon CPU so I'm tied down to to a socket AM2(+) board and the 
majority of those available seem to have nForce 630a chipsets and 
RTL8211CL or 8201EL NIC's which aren't explicitly mentioned in the 
release notes 
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/hardware.html#ETHERNET. I see 
that the strings RTL8211C(L) and RTL8201L (but not EL) appear 
in /usr/src/sys/dev/rgephy.c and rlphy.c but the man page for the rl 
driver only mentions RealTek 8129/8139 and I'm not sure which driver is 
built from rgephy.c.

Am I going to have problems if I get a motherboard with one of these 
NIC's?

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I have an am2+ board in a machine with a realtek card and it is using
the re driver, might be worth having a look there.

Regards

Graeme 

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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Da Rock

On 12/23/10 23:16, Chris Rees wrote:

On 23 December 2010 11:44, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au  wrote:
snip
   

Thanks, but Athlon64 is a 939. Yeah, it may not be worth salvaging, but I
thought the cost might be less... I'm more than likely wrong. Worth putting
feelers out, though :)

 

Athlon64s can be 754, 939 or AM2. Perhaps you meant *your* Athlon64 is a 939?

Sorry you're not having much luck.

If I knew the Aussie market I'd help you to pick something comparable,
but that's better left to someone more local for you!

Hope you get some results soon.


   
Well thats from memory, and it is pretty old now I agree. Might have 
been a local thing then. As I remember it only the Athlon and then 
Semperon's were 754. The 64's and FX's were 939. The later Athlons were 
AM2, but that was just after I got this one, and they're the X2's I 
believe. But again, that may have been local.


I've got wholesale contacts, but I was hoping to make use of this spare 
chip and RAM floating about. Diff would be around $100, so only kinda 
worth it.


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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Whitehouse

On 12/23/10 13:57, Da Rock wrote:


I've got wholesale contacts, but I was hoping to make use of this spare
chip and RAM floating about. Diff would be around $100, so only kinda
worth it.

It might be worth looking at Intel Atom processor boards or similar, 
there are plenty of very low power boards around now. If you can find 
something that suits you will recoup the cost of the new processor and 
RAM with much reduced electricity consumption, I believe around 10 times 
less.


There's been a few threads recently about low power boards. eg this thread
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=411819+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2010/freebsd-questions/20101128.freebsd-questions

suggests this board

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm?typ=HIPMI=Y
which looks like it covers what you want.

Chris
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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 December 2010 13:57, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
 On 12/23/10 23:16, Chris Rees wrote:

 On 23 December 2010 11:44, Da Rock
 freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au  wrote:
 snip


 Thanks, but Athlon64 is a 939. Yeah, it may not be worth salvaging, but I
 thought the cost might be less... I'm more than likely wrong. Worth
 putting
 feelers out, though :)



 Athlon64s can be 754, 939 or AM2. Perhaps you meant *your* Athlon64 is a
 939?

 Sorry you're not having much luck.

 If I knew the Aussie market I'd help you to pick something comparable,
 but that's better left to someone more local for you!

 Hope you get some results soon.




 Well thats from memory, and it is pretty old now I agree. Might have been a
 local thing then. As I remember it only the Athlon and then Semperon's were
 754. The 64's and FX's were 939. The later Athlons were AM2, but that was
 just after I got this one, and they're the X2's I believe. But again, that
 may have been local.

I think you're thinking of Socket 462. This might clear it up a little:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon64

Chris
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Re: Completely remove user from system

2010-12-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
 There is any other thing that I can do to completely remove this user? It's
 urgent 'cos it's sending a lot of spam mails :( and our server administrator
 is on vacation :/
 Thank you.

In addition to what others wrote, 
in cases spam is not direct from your host, 
but perhaps relaying (now or later) via your host, check with this:

echo /usr/local/*bin/*sasl*
If there is no sasl installed, dont worry thats
fine, dont install it just to check, just exit, else :-)

man sasldblistusers
# you might have sasl2 instead of sasl
su
/usr/local/sbin/sasldblistusers
# If your rogue user is in list
man  saslpasswd

Cheers,
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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Robert
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:23:30 +1000
Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:

 I know its a little OT, but I'm hunting for a mainboard to plug this
 CPU into and build a file server. So the ideal specs are (and maybe
 dreaming too :) ):
 
 184 pin RAM DIMM
 SataIII 4+ ports
 Either onboard or AGP Video
 2x Gigabit LAN
 
 Obviously I don't need much RAM, just juice the throughput from the
 HDD to the LAN, and plenty of bandwidth. That said a lot of my specs
 could be pipe dreaming, I know. I'm looking at 3x 2Tb Seagate 64Mb
 SATAIII's so I'd rather not waste it, I'm sure you'd agree.
 
 I'll be setting up RAID5 in some fashion or other, just still
 choosing my method between ZFS and VINUM or something. So the need
 for as many SATA ports is a must :)
 
 Any help finding a suitable model would be much appreciated- very
 hard to find anything still in stock. And of course advice will be
 very welcome :)

I just did a quick search on ebay australia for socket 939
motherboard and hit this

http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40_trksid=m570_nkw=socket+939+motherboard_sacat=See-All-Categories

One of my computers is a Asus A8N-VM 939. It has 2 ports for SATA and
I added another SATA card into the PCI-E x1 slot. I found an AMD64x2
CPU on ebay that was reasonable nad have 4G of RAM. This is not the
latest or greatest but it is still a very functional computer.

I hope this helps.

Robert

P.S. I will be taking my first trip to AU in February and am quite
excited  about it.
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rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues,

The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need to
pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
daemon on start. How do I do that?

I tried to do this via a login class for the svn user, but it did not
work. If I first 'su -l svn' and then start the daemon manually, the
environment variable is set all right, but not when it is started from
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve.

All this is happening on 8.1-RELEASE-p2.
Thanks in advance for any help. 

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rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues,

The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need to
pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
daemon on start. How do I do that?

I tried to do this via a login class for the svn user, but it did not
work. If I first 'su -l svn' and then start the daemon manually, the
environment variable is set all right, but not when it is started from
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve.

All this is happening on 8.1-RELEASE-p2.
Thanks in advance for any help. 

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Inappropriate ioctl for device

2010-12-23 Thread Mohammad Hedayati
I'm writing a simple char device. So far everything went so good
(read/write), but here I'm going to add support for ioctl.

int
ioctl(struct cdev *dev, u_long cmd, caddr_t data, int flags, struct thread *td)
{
   int error = 0;
   uprintf(Here...\n);
   return(error);
}
and I'm calling it here:

len = ioctl(cd, 0, );
perror(ioctl);

but when runnig it says:

ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device

where's the problem?
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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:27:52 +0600, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote:
 Colleagues,
 
 The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need to
 pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
 daemon on start. How do I do that?

If the user corresponding to the svnservice has a login
shell, which would usually be the system's default
dialog shell, the C shell, you could edit /etc/csh.cshrc
and put

setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab

to make it a system-wide setting (or use the user's
~/.cshrc for a user-only setting).

In case the user does NOT have a default shell, I think
you should be able to also define a system-wide environmental
variable by coding

KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME

into /etc/rc.local (which will be executed at system startup).
See man rc.local for details.




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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 08:12:49PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:

 On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:27:52 +0600, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su 
 wrote:
  Colleagues,
  
  The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need to
  pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
  daemon on start. How do I do that?
 
 If the user corresponding to the svnservice has a login
 shell, which would usually be the system's default
 dialog shell, the C shell, you could edit /etc/csh.cshrc
 and put
 
   setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab
 
 to make it a system-wide setting (or use the user's
 ~/.cshrc for a user-only setting).
 
 In case the user does NOT have a default shell, I think
 you should be able to also define a system-wide environmental
 variable by coding
 
   KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME
 
 into /etc/rc.local (which will be executed at system startup).
 See man rc.local for details.
 

Put it in /etc/rc.conf and have your script read up rc.conf and
set any of the stuff in there it is interested in, such as KRB5_KINAME.

I think that is the officially sanctioned way of doing such things.

jerry


 
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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:14:43 -0500, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 08:12:49PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 
  On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:27:52 +0600, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su 
  wrote:
   Colleagues,
   
   The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need 
   to
   pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
   daemon on start. How do I do that?
  
  If the user corresponding to the svnservice has a login
  shell, which would usually be the system's default
  dialog shell, the C shell, you could edit /etc/csh.cshrc
  and put
  
  setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab
  
  to make it a system-wide setting (or use the user's
  ~/.cshrc for a user-only setting).
  
  In case the user does NOT have a default shell, I think
  you should be able to also define a system-wide environmental
  variable by coding
  
  KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME
  
  into /etc/rc.local (which will be executed at system startup).
  See man rc.local for details.
  
 
 Put it in /etc/rc.conf and have your script read up rc.conf and
 set any of the stuff in there it is interested in, such as KRB5_KINAME.
 
 I think that is the officially sanctioned way of doing such things.

I'm not sure this will work. The initial question was about
how to obtain an environmental variable. If the rc.d script
of svnserve sources /etc/rc.conf and/or /etc/rc.conf.local,
it is okay, but what if a binary wants to read the variable
by the standard way, i. e.

int main(int argc, char *argv[], char *envp[])

then there will be no access to files like /etc/rc.conf.
This means the variable will have to be a validly set
environmental variable that can be output by

% env

or a similar program (or mechanism). Settings from /etc/rc.conf
do NOT show up as environmental variables.

Anyway, if svnserve is able to be passed a command string
to, a setting like

svnserve_flags=... -k /home/svn/svn.keytab ...

coded in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local would work,
and would also be the preferred method for such things.
In fact, I've not come across the need to have an environmental
variable to store a configuration setting for an additional
program, as such kind of variables is mainly for low level
system use, mostly.


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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Polytropon free...@edvax.de writes:

 I'm not sure this will work. The initial question was about
 how to obtain an environmental variable. If the rc.d script
 of svnserve sources /etc/rc.conf and/or /etc/rc.conf.local,
 it is okay,

They do.  rc.d scripts all start by sucking in rc.subr, which in turn
pulls in the rc.conf files.
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Re: do i need a dedicated ip address for https?

2010-12-23 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Laszlo == Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com writes:

Laszlo But there are possibilities. You can use different SSL certificates for 
the
Laszlo same ip address and different port numbers:

Laszlo https://your_domain_1:4430
Laszlo https://your_domain_2:4431

That's a bad idea if you expect that any of your visitors are coming
from behind most corporate firewalls, because the proxy CONNECT
command is almost always limited to port 443 as a security feature.

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Re: AMD Athlon64 Mainboard - NOT SPAM: please check it out :)

2010-12-23 Thread Da Rock

On 12/24/10 01:44, Chris Rees wrote:

On 23 December 2010 13:57, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au  wrote:
   

On 12/23/10 23:16, Chris Rees wrote:
 

On 23 December 2010 11:44, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.auwrote:
snip

   

Thanks, but Athlon64 is a 939. Yeah, it may not be worth salvaging, but I
thought the cost might be less... I'm more than likely wrong. Worth
putting
feelers out, though :)


 

Athlon64s can be 754, 939 or AM2. Perhaps you meant *your* Athlon64 is a
939?

Sorry you're not having much luck.

If I knew the Aussie market I'd help you to pick something comparable,
but that's better left to someone more local for you!

Hope you get some results soon.



   

Well thats from memory, and it is pretty old now I agree. Might have been a
local thing then. As I remember it only the Athlon and then Semperon's were
754. The 64's and FX's were 939. The later Athlons were AM2, but that was
just after I got this one, and they're the X2's I believe. But again, that
may have been local.
 

I think you're thinking of Socket 462. This might clear it up a little:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon64

Chris
   
No, but you're right I'll agree. Mustn't have been available via my 
sources though- only the 32bit processors were 754 here, 64 had to be a 
939. Probably some smartarse' marketing ploy... :)

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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote:
  
  The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need to
  pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
  daemon on start. How do I do that?
 
 If the user corresponding to the svnservice has a login
 shell, which would usually be the system's default
 dialog shell, the C shell, you could edit /etc/csh.cshrc
 and put
 
   setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab
 
 to make it a system-wide setting (or use the user's
 ~/.cshrc for a user-only setting).

I have tried putting setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab in
~svn/.cshrc, it does not help. Evidently the svn user's login shell is
not called when /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve start is called.

 In case the user does NOT have a default shell, I think
 you should be able to also define a system-wide environmental
 variable by coding
 
   KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME
 
 into /etc/rc.local (which will be executed at system startup).
 See man rc.local for details.

Excuse me? What does /etc/rc.local have to do with the rc.subr
framework? 

Of course I can abandon the standard /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve
script and write my own one, or start svnserve from /etc/rc.local
(which I will do if I don't find a more graceful way), but it is not
what the question was about. 

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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Jerry McAllister wrote:
   
   The svnserve daemon is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve. I need 
   to
   pass the environment variable KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab to the
   daemon on start. How do I do that?
  
  If the user corresponding to the svnservice has a login
  shell, which would usually be the system's default
  dialog shell, the C shell, you could edit /etc/csh.cshrc
  and put
  
  setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab
  
  to make it a system-wide setting (or use the user's
  ~/.cshrc for a user-only setting).
  
  In case the user does NOT have a default shell, I think
  you should be able to also define a system-wide environmental
  variable by coding
  
  KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME
  
  into /etc/rc.local (which will be executed at system startup).
  See man rc.local for details.
  
 
 Put it in /etc/rc.conf and have your script read up rc.conf and
 set any of the stuff in there it is interested in, such as KRB5_KINAME.

What my script do you mean? The script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve
is already installed by the port, how can I make the stock script read
up KRB5_KTNAME from rc.conf?  And besides, KRB5_KTNAME should be only
defined for the svn user (the user svnserve runs from) and not any
other user.

 I think that is the officially sanctioned way of doing such things.

Of course I can always write my own script or put something like
su -l svn -c 'usr/local/bin/svnserve -d --listen-port=3690 bla bla' 
into /etc/rc.local, but the question was about the rc.d framework.

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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:07:35 +0600, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote:
 I have tried putting setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab in
 ~svn/.cshrc, it does not help. Evidently the svn user's login shell is
 not called when /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve start is called.

I did already assume something like that. This mechanism
relies on some kind of login that causes the shell to be
run (usually an interactive shell), which isn't the case
here.



 Excuse me? What does /etc/rc.local have to do with the rc.subr
 framework? 

Nothing. The /etc/rc.local script is executed along with
the system startup. It is considered obsolete (I think),
but it should work, and therefore be able to set a system-wide
environment variable. This script is not in any relation
with the rc.subr framework.



 Of course I can abandon the standard /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve
 script and write my own one, or start svnserve from /etc/rc.local
 (which I will do if I don't find a more graceful way), but it is not
 what the question was about. 

Yes, I fully understand: You need to set an environmental
variable that will be picked up later on by the svnserve
program (in some way, not neccessarily by accessing a file).
That's why I think

KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME

in /etc/rc.local should create the $KRB5_KTNAME environment
variable at system startup.

Anyway, did you find a way to use some _flags= setting for
/etc/rc.conf to be used by svnserve? This would be the
method most other programs handle things like configuration
flags that are not set by an own config file.




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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:13:53 +0600, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote:
 Of course I can always write my own script or put something like
 su -l svn -c 'usr/local/bin/svnserve -d --listen-port=3690 bla bla' 
 into /etc/rc.local, but the question was about the rc.d framework.

Environmental variables cannot be controlled by the rc.d
framework, as far as I understand. Using login classes to
define them should be the correct way.

From man login.conf:

setenv  listA comma-separated list of
environment variables and
values to which they are to
be set.

What did you enter for the svnserve user in /etc/login.conf,
and did you make sure there is no override setting in the
corresponding user's ~/.login.conf?

A valid setting should look like this,

:setenv=KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab:

embedded into the proper structures.

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fetching mail (but not fetchmail)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Brennan
Bit of an odd question. But I will try. Is it possible to set up some
mechanism (in freebsd or maybe gentoo (doesn't matter to me)) to pop/imap
into my mail location and download everything as storage and then I imap to
my local machine to read my mail. I realize I can pop/imap directly into my
mail, the goal of this exorcise is to store my mail on one of my local
servers and not my windows machine which can change at a moment's notice. (I
just don't like the idea of permanent/long-term storage in Windows :/ )

C-
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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote:

[dd]

 
 Anyway, if svnserve is able to be passed a command string
 to, a setting like
 
   svnserve_flags=... -k /home/svn/svn.keytab ...

No, this is not a svnserve option, it is a setting used by libsasl2
with which svnserve is linked (or even by libkrb5.so).

 
 coded in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local would work,
 and would also be the preferred method for such things.
 In fact, I've not come across the need to have an environmental
 variable to store a configuration setting for an additional
 program, as such kind of variables is mainly for low level
 system use, mostly.

This need is indeed rare, but not nonexistent. In fact, if
cyrus-sasl implemented the keytab: configuration option, there would
be no need to set KRB5_KTNAME prior to starting svnserve.

I also remember a need to pass $ORACLE_HOME to apache on start for
some PHP module to work correctly.

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SAS HBA card for freebsd?

2010-12-23 Thread Robert Boyer
I have been running FreeBSD for about a year and tracking the ZFS 
implementation for almost as long. I am reasonably happy with the current 
stable 8.1 ZFS configs that I have been running with a few TB of storage all 
managed with an integrated SATA controller  on my test machine. I am about to 
invest a little bit of money in a production machine targeted for a bunch of 
cheapo storage attachment and plan to implement on FreeBSD / ZFS. I have 
searched around on this topic and most info seems to be a bit out of date or 
contradictory, so here is the question at the risk of being redundant.

I need a SAS controller that has preferably 8 ports (two four channel) 
connections per card. I don't mind decent buying a RAID card but really really 
desire it to be configurable in HBA mode vs. RAID or JBOD with RAID signatures. 
There are plenty of HBA only cards that would be suitable but I can find none 
that seem to fit the bill in terms of FreeBSD. I have seen a couple of cheap 
RAID cards recommended but cannot seem to get a definitive answer of whether 
they are actually configurable as plain old disks (HBA mode) vs JBOD w/ RAID 
signature.

Anybody using a reasonably priced card that fits the bill?

Thanks
RB
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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 
  I'm not sure this will work. The initial question was about
  how to obtain an environmental variable. If the rc.d script
  of svnserve sources /etc/rc.conf and/or /etc/rc.conf.local,
  it is okay,
 
 They do.  rc.d scripts all start by sucking in rc.subr, which in turn
 pulls in the rc.conf files.

So how do I make the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve script suck in
KRB5_KTNAME for the svn user from the rc.conf* files?  

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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote:
  I have tried putting setenv KRB5_KTNAME /home/svn/svn.keytab in
  ~svn/.cshrc, it does not help. Evidently the svn user's login shell is
  not called when /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve start is called.
 
 I did already assume something like that. This mechanism
 relies on some kind of login that causes the shell to be
 run (usually an interactive shell), which isn't the case
 here.

Besides, the login.conf capability database does not seem to be used
by the rc.d framework either, which is sad.

 
  Excuse me? What does /etc/rc.local have to do with the rc.subr
  framework? 
 
 Nothing. The /etc/rc.local script is executed along with
 the system startup. It is considered obsolete (I think),
 but it should work, and therefore be able to set a system-wide
 environment variable. 

I guess any environment variable set in the /etc/rc.local script would
be available in the script itself and its children, but not system
wide. Even if it were, remember, I do not need to change KRB5_KTNAME
system wide, but just for one particular user.


[dd]

 
 Anyway, did you find a way to use some _flags= setting for
 /etc/rc.conf to be used by svnserve? This would be the
 method most other programs handle things like configuration
 flags that are not set by an own config file.

To my regret, this is not a svnserve option, it is a setting used by
libsasl2 with which svnserve is linked.

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Best SAS controller

2010-12-23 Thread Robert Boyer
I have been running FreeBSD for about a year and tracking the ZFS 
implementation for almost as long. I am reasonably happy with the current 
stable 8.1 ZFS configs that I have been running with a few TB of storage all 
managed with an integrated SATA controller  on my test machine. I am about to 
invest a little bit of money in a production machine targeted for a bunch of 
cheapo storage attachment and plan to implement on FreeBSD / ZFS. I have 
searched around on this topic and most info seems to be a bit out of date or 
contradictory, so here is the question at the risk of being redundant.

I need a SAS controller that has preferably 8 ports (two four channel) 
connections per card. I don't mind decent buying a RAID card but really really 
desire it to be configurable in HBA mode vs. RAID or JBOD with RAID signatures. 
There are plenty of HBA only cards that would be suitable but I can find none 
that seem to fit the bill in terms of FreeBSD. I have seen a couple of cheap 
RAID cards recommended but cannot seem to get a definitive answer of whether 
they are actually configurable as plain old disks (HBA mode) vs JBOD w/ RAID 
signature.

Anybody using a reasonably priced card that fits the bill?

Thanks
RB

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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote:
  Of course I can always write my own script or put something like
  su -l svn -c 'usr/local/bin/svnserve -d --listen-port=3690 bla bla' 
  into /etc/rc.local, but the question was about the rc.d framework.
 
 Environmental variables cannot be controlled by the rc.d
 framework, as far as I understand. Using login classes to
 define them should be the correct way.
 
 From man login.conf:
 
   setenv  listA comma-separated list of
   environment variables and
   values to which they are to
   be set.

I thought of that, and in fact I wrote about it in the very first
message: 

  I tried to do this via a login class for the svn user, but it did
  not work. If I first 'su -l svn' and then start the daemon
  manually, the environment variable is set all right, but not when
  it is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve.

 
 What did you enter for the svnserve user in /etc/login.conf,

svn:\
:setenv=KRB5_KTNAME=~/svn.keytab:\
:tc=default:


 and did you make sure there is no override setting in the
 corresponding user's ~/.login.conf?

I am pretty sure because when I login interactively as svn, I see 

$ whoami
svn
$ printenv | grep KT
KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab
$

But it does not work for the rc.d script.

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Re: rc.d and environment variables

2010-12-23 Thread Da Rock

On 12/24/10 13:50, Victor Sudakov wrote:

Polytropon wrote:
   

Of course I can always write my own script or put something like
su -l svn -c 'usr/local/bin/svnserve -d --listen-port=3690 bla bla'
into /etc/rc.local, but the question was about the rc.d framework.
   

Environmental variables cannot be controlled by the rc.d
framework, as far as I understand. Using login classes to
define them should be the correct way.

 From man login.conf:

setenv  listA comma-separated list of
environment variables and
values to which they are to
be set.
 

I thought of that, and in fact I wrote about it in the very first
message:

   

I tried to do this via a login class for the svn user, but it did
not work. If I first 'su -l svn' and then start the daemon
manually, the environment variable is set all right, but not when
it is started from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svnserve.
   
   

What did you enter for the svnserve user in /etc/login.conf,
 

svn:\
 :setenv=KRB5_KTNAME=~/svn.keytab:\
 :tc=default:


   

and did you make sure there is no override setting in the
corresponding user's ~/.login.conf?
 

I am pretty sure because when I login interactively as svn, I see

$ whoami
svn
$ printenv | grep KT
KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab
$

But it does not work for the rc.d script.

   
Doesn't the rc.d script run as root initially and then a method (default 
flags, etc) is used to change the owner to a nobody (restricted 
privilege user)? Just my 2c, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: fetching mail (but not fetchmail)

2010-12-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 24/12/2010 03:27, Chris Brennan wrote:
 Bit of an odd question. But I will try. Is it possible to set up some
 mechanism (in freebsd or maybe gentoo (doesn't matter to me)) to pop/imap
 into my mail location and download everything as storage and then I imap to
 my local machine to read my mail. I realize I can pop/imap directly into my
 mail, the goal of this exorcise is to store my mail on one of my local
 servers and not my windows machine which can change at a moment's notice. (I
 just don't like the idea of permanent/long-term storage in Windows :/ )

fetchmail -- http://fetchmail.berlios.de/ plus dovecot --
http://www.dovecot.org/

They're in ports.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: fetching mail (but not fetchmail)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Brennan
n Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Matthew Seaman 
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 On 24/12/2010 03:27, Chris Brennan wrote:
  Bit of an odd question. But I will try. Is it possible to set up some
  mechanism (in freebsd or maybe gentoo (doesn't matter to me)) to pop/imap
  into my mail location and download everything as storage and then I imap
 to
  my local machine to read my mail. I realize I can pop/imap directly into
 my
  mail, the goal of this exorcise is to store my mail on one of my local
  servers and not my windows machine which can change at a moment's notice.
 (I
  just don't like the idea of permanent/long-term storage in Windows :/ )

 fetchmail -- http://fetchmail.berlios.de/ plus dovecot --
 http://www.dovecot.org/

 They're in ports.

Cheers,

Matthew


Thanks but I I think maybe I wasn't entirely clear. With fetchmail (which is
why I said but not fetchmail in the subject) I very well can download all my
mail. For reading locally, on the console (not what I had in mind). Or is
this where dovecot comes into play? To prepare the previously fetched mail
and prepare it for pop/imap access?
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Re: fetching mail (but not fetchmail)

2010-12-23 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 01:01:48 -0500, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:
 Thanks but I I think maybe I wasn't entirely clear. With fetchmail (which is
 why I said but not fetchmail in the subject) I very well can download all my
 mail. For reading locally, on the console (not what I had in mind). Or is
 this where dovecot comes into play? To prepare the previously fetched mail
 and prepare it for pop/imap access?

No. The fetchmail program usually fetches (copies and flushes,
or not flushes) the POP mailbox and places the content on your
local machine into your user's mailbox, /var/mail/$USER. From
there on, you can do with the mail what you want, e. g. view
it with mail (from the base system), incorporate from spool
into Sylpheed, Thunderbird, pine, whatever program you want,
or continue processing with another program (e. g. to transfer
the messages elsewhere - this is where docevot enters the
scene).


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Re: fetching mail (but not fetchmail)

2010-12-23 Thread Chris Brennan
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 01:01:48 -0500, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net
 wrote:
  Thanks but I I think maybe I wasn't entirely clear. With fetchmail (which
 is
  why I said but not fetchmail in the subject) I very well can download all
 my
  mail. For reading locally, on the console (not what I had in mind). Or is
  this where dovecot comes into play? To prepare the previously fetched
 mail
  and prepare it for pop/imap access?

 No. The fetchmail program usually fetches (copies and flushes,
 or not flushes) the POP mailbox and places the content on your
 local machine into your user's mailbox, /var/mail/$USER. From
 there on, you can do with the mail what you want, e. g. view
 it with mail (from the base system), incorporate from spool
 into Sylpheed, Thunderbird, pine, whatever program you want,
 or continue processing with another program (e. g. to transfer
 the messages elsewhere - this is where docevot enters the
 scene).


Ok so fetchmail is step 1, step 2 is to unleash dovecet on /var/mail/$USER
and then just point ex: thunderbird at my local server:port and happy
hunting?
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Re: fetching mail (but not fetchmail)

2010-12-23 Thread David Kelly

On Dec 24, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Chris Brennan wrote:

 Thanks but I I think maybe I wasn't entirely clear. With fetchmail (which is
 why I said but not fetchmail in the subject) I very well can download all my
 mail. For reading locally, on the console (not what I had in mind). Or is
 this where dovecot comes into play? To prepare the previously fetched mail
 and prepare it for pop/imap access?


Yes, that is exactly what he was saying. Fetchmail puts it where ever you tell 
it to. All you have to do is put the email where dovecot can find it in a 
format dovecot understands. You can think of dovecot as a remote controlled 
email reader, one which can be driven by Mail.app, Outlook, or Firefox. But in 
doing this you are not giving up the ability to do mail on your console.

When using maildir format both mutt and dovecot can operate out of the same 
mail repository at the same time.

For example I use ~/Maildir/ and the maildir format.

Also use procmail for initial sorting and filtering with bogofilter. In my 
.fetchmailrc like this:

defaults
proto pop3
fetchall
mda /usr/local/bin/procmail -d dkelly


.procmailrc something like this:


MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir/  #you'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=/var/mail/$LOGNAME

# Make a copy of everything incoming:
:0 c
$HOME/Mail_Backup/

# Add a Lines: header if one is lacking, so mutt knows a message's size
:0 Bfh
* H ?? !^Lines:
* -1^0
*  1^1 ^.*$
| formail -A Lines: $=

# bogofilter -u trains all tokens as spam or non-spam
:0 HB:
* ? bogofilter -u
.spam/

# detect dupes
:0 Whc: msgid.lock
| formail -D 131072 msgid.cache

# divert dupes
:0 a:
.dups/

# ultimate point of delivery
:0
./


The above .procmail puts a copy of everything in ~/Mail_Backup/ just in case.

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