Re: perl-threaded

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 05:50:39PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:

> Not necessarily, many cpan modules are either thread unaware/innocuous
> or thread safe, though there are exceptions.
> I have re-compiled Perl with threads with pre-installed libraries and
> never had a problem.
> 
> You will surely know which things fail when they blow-up or leak you
> to death, when you use threading of course. Especially long-running
> software like mod_perl. But for that, you always have
> maxrequestsperchild ;-)
> 
> Now that I mention it, mod_perl would probably need rebuilding IMHO
> just to be on the safe side, wherever _that_ is with threads ;-)
> 
> Joking aside, I have scaled tremendously with apache mod_perl +
> mod_worker a rare but exquisite high-scale Web software recipe.
 
Hi Alejandro - I did encounter a few issues, rebuilt them all and it's good. 
Thanks for your reply. 

jamie
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Re: about wine with nvidia-driver

2011-05-24 Thread alphachi
I have install it successfully and test with World of Warcraft; it's fine.
Thank you very much! :)
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info about java ide

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
Hello

I need to install a Java ide and I'm looking for advice about which jdk 
component might be best to use with it. I was thinking about using netbeans so 
would I need to use the sun-linux-jdk16 for that or could I use openjdk 
instead. Perhaps diablo-jdk16 would be better, I guess I'd need that to 
actually build the sun version anyway wouldn't I?

Any help would be great. 

Jamie
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Re: Filename containing French characters ?

2011-05-24 Thread Frank Bonnet

OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
\BUT ...

It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )

here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename
that contains those bloody characters



82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] "GET 
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx 
HTTP/1.1" 404 1337


The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )

apache is unable to open that filename


On 05/24/2011 06:44 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:

Thanks that is working :-)

Now I have to test the application ( apache based application )
to see if it is able to open the file.

I'll tell in few hours when arrived to my office


Le 23/05/2011 17:50, Modulok a écrit :
Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à 
fichier.txt':


 ls -l
 -rw-r--r--  1 Modulok  Modulok   12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt

 mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt

Long answer, for those who want to follow along and fix their 
terminal to

display UTF-8, keep reading...

Step 1: Make a funky file to play along with this min-tutorial:
===

Create a text file with an editor that supports non-ASCII characters. I
created a file named 'filename' which containing this (no newline!):

 à fichier.txt

Step 2: Create the actual file with content
===

I used echo and cat like so in the tcsh shell:

 echo "hello world">  "`cat filename`"


Step 3: Show the file in ls
===

As you can see below, the first character of the filename is 
displayed as two
question marks. This is the terminal's way of showing filenames that 
it cannot
display correctly. There are two question marks, because this is a 
two-byte
character. This does *not* mean the filename starts with a literal 
question

mark:


 -rw-r--r--  1 Modulok  Modulok   12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt

Step 4: (optional) Fix the terminal
===

At this point, let's just fix the terminal so that UTF-8 characters are
displayed correctly. We want to see the French accented 'à', and not 
a bunch of
question marks. To do this, you edit '/etc/login.conf' as root. Add 
two lines
at the bottom of the 'default' section. My default section now looks 
like this:



 default:\
 :passwd_format=md5:\
 :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\

 ...and so on...

 :charset=en_US.UTF-8:\
 :lang=en_US.UTF-8:

If you're a French operation yours should probably look like this 
instead:


 default:\
 :passwd_format=md5:\
 :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\

 ...and so on...

 :charset=fr_FR.UTF-8:\
 :lang=fr_FR.UTF-8:

I'm not certain on these for all countries, but the above examples 
work. We
then need to rebuild the actual login database. Execute the following 
command

as root:

 cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf

This generates /etc/login.conf.db from /etc/login.conf. Now log out 
and then

back in!


Step 5: Back to the funky file
==

You should now see the actual accent characters correctly in the 
terminal.

(Assuming your terminal supports this):

 -rw-r--r--  1 Modulok  Modulok   12 May 23 09:01 à fichier.txt

In some ternimals, we cannot type these characters. So you can access 
the
filename through a shell glob pattern. In most shells, the glob 
pattern '?'

matches any single character. The forward slash escapes the space in the
filename.

 mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt


Hope this helps (and doesn't get too mangled.)
-Modulok-

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Re: opera 11.11 and flash

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 07:57:59PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote:
 
> The attached picture shows Opera 11.10 with the www/opera-linuxplugins port
> installed showing the video as I was typing this. Perfect.
> -- 
> Mario Lobo

Hi Mario - looks good, glad you had more success than I did. To be fair, I 
didn't persevere as much as should have done but, I have to say I am so 
impressed with the new firefox, it works so well on my system so i'm glad it 
worked out that way.

Cheers
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Re: Filename containing French characters ?

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue May 24 02:32:36 2011
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:32:20 +0200
> From: Frank Bonnet 
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ?
>
> OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
> \BUT ...
>
> It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )
>
> here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that contains 
> those bloody characters
>
>
>
> 82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] "GET
> /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony
> %20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1" 404 1337
>
> The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )

Please show the output of 
  ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA*
and 
 ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA* \
 |" od -xc

And, also with {DOCROOT} (whatever it is) prepended to the paths shown above.

*AlSO* show your apache configuration file -- especially what 'DOCROOT' is.

Lastly, do you have _any_ path-rewriting rules that might result in a
different _actual_ path than the 'requested' one?  Virtually =every- Apache
installation has at least one such rewrite rule.

Please show _all_ such rules/transformations.



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Re: Filename containing French characters ?

2011-05-24 Thread Frank Bonnet

On 05/24/2011 10:01 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:

 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue May 24 02:32:36 2011
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:32:20 +0200
From: Frank Bonnet
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ?

OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
\BUT ...

It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )

here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that contains
those bloody characters



82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] "GET
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony
%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1" 404 1337

The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )

Please show the output of
   ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA*



ls -lb 11_EM1_SI_AMI*
ls: No match



and
  ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA* \
  |" od -xc
ls -lb 
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA* | od -xl

ls: No match.

ls -lb in the directory give that :

-rw-r--r--  1 www-data  www-data   18294 24 mai 03:00 
11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony Aim\351e Marthe Moteh.docx


but wildcards fails as you can see in preceding lines.


And, also with {DOCROOT} (whatever it is) prepended to the paths shown above.


DOCROOT is OK all files that does not contains accentuated characters
are well opened and displayed in web pages.


*AlSO* show your apache configuration file -- especially what 'DOCROOT' is.

Lastly, do you have _any_ path-rewriting rules that might result in a
different _actual_ path than the 'requested' one?  Virtually =every- Apache
installation has at least one such rewrite rule.



no rewriting rules a all


Please show _all_ such rules/transformations.






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Re: info about java ide

2011-05-24 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 24 May 2011 08:20:45 +0100,
Jamie Paul Griffin  a écrit :

Hello,

> I need to install a Java ide and I'm looking for advice about which
> jdk component might be best to use with it. I was thinking about
> using netbeans so would I need to use the sun-linux-jdk16 for that or
> could I use openjdk instead.

I use netbeans with openjdk6 or the sun/oracle version.
That works fine, except the profiler which is not available on FreeBSD.

> Perhaps diablo-jdk16 would be better, I
> guess I'd need that to actually build the sun version anyway wouldn't
> I?

Yes you need java to build java.

If you build java with IPv6 you may have problem with the subversion
module in netbeans, you have to specify -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
on the java command line (or -J-D in netbeans.conf).

Regards.
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Enable Sqlite3 module in python

2011-05-24 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello members,

I am on FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE and I am running with python2.7. However I have a
problem:

mail# python2.7 -c 'import sqlite3'

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/
sqlite3/__init__.py", line 24, in 
from dbapi2 import *
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/sqlite3/dbapi2.py", line 27, in 
from _sqlite3 import *
ImportError: No module named _sqlite3


How do I enable the sqlite3 module in python2.7

PS: Is anyone here testing out Mailman 3 with Exim, by any chance?



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Re: Enable Sqlite3 module in python

2011-05-24 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> Hello members,
>
> I am on FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE and I am running with python2.7. However I have a
> problem:
>
> mail# python2.7 -c 'import sqlite3'
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "", line 1, in 
>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/
> sqlite3/__init__.py", line 24, in 
>    from dbapi2 import *
>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/sqlite3/dbapi2.py", line 27, in 
>    from _sqlite3 import *
> ImportError: No module named _sqlite3
>
>
> How do I enable the sqlite3 module in python2.7

Install databases/py-sqlite3. The python installation shows the
following message when it is finished:


Note that some of the standard modules are provided as separate
ports since they require extra dependencies:

bsddb   databases/py-bsddb
gdbmdatabases/py-gdbm
sqlite3 databases/py-sqlite3
tkinter x11-toolkits/py-tkinter

Install them as needed.


- Max
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Re: ARP tables in FreeBSD (vs Linux)

2011-05-24 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis

On 5/23/2011 10:46 PM, Rogelio wrote:

I found that a certain Linux gateway was having a difficult time with
thousands of ARP entries (about 13K concurrent ARP entries in 10 min
from ISP subscribers), so I put it behind a Cisco 7201 router and
added an IP helper to the interface.  Now it seems to be working much
much better.


Was the rate of ARPs the problem?
Or the size of the ARP table?

Nikos
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Re: Filename containing French Characters

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Bonomi

> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:28:02 +0200
> From: Frank Bonnet 
> Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ?
>
> On 05/24/2011 10:01 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> >>  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue May 24 02:32:36 2011 
> >>  Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:32:20 +0200 From: Frank 
> >>  Bonnet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 
> >>  Re: Filename containing French characters ?
> >>
> >> OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
> >> \BUT ...
> >>
> >> It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )
> >>
> >> here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that 
> >> contains those bloody characters
> >>
> >> 82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] "GET
> >> /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Ant=
> hony
> >> %20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1" 404 1337
> >>
> >> The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )

Not surprising, there is _no_ "%C3%A9e" character in the file name.  
>
> ls -lb in the directory give that :
>
> -rw-r--r--  1 www-data  www-data   18294 24 mai 03:00 
> 11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony Aim\351e Marthe Moteh.docx
>
> but wildcards fails 

Ah so.  

There is an 'unfortunate' line-break in the ls output you show. This may
be *VERY* significant.  IF what is shown above _is_ *exactly* how the output 
appears, then there is a '[NL]' as the first character of the filename. In 
_that_ case, putting a '?' or '*' on the front of the wildcard string 
_should_ expand to the actual file nam.  That is, "ls -lb ?11_EM2*" should 
succeed.

OTOH, *IF* the ls -lb output appears as one long line, please check the 
output _carefully_, and report _how_many_spaces_ between the last digit of 
the timestamp, and the fist 'visible' character of the file name.  Check 
that count against a file name that you _can_ wild-card.  (I've got a nasty 
suspicion that there is a _space_ or other 'non-printing' character as the 
first character of the filename.) 

*IF* "none of the above" applies, then (and ONLY then) the following applies:
  1) try fetching the URL:
   


  2) NOTE:   filename 'globbing' (what you call 'wildcards') failing to match 
 that filename *is* a genuine "bug" as regards whatever shell you are 
 using, and you SHOULD file a formal bug report (aka "PR") on that issue.

  3) For completeness, try the 'ls -lb  11*' command, while in the data 
 directory, under 'sh', 'tcsh', 'ksh', 'zsh', =and= 'bash'.  file a bug
 report for every shell where the wildcard expansion fails.

 For the bug report, Include the output generated by script(1), showing
 the 'ls -lb' of the entire directory, _and_ the attempt to use a 
 wildcard match. Do _NOT_ edit that script log file in any way.

 the ideal sequence is:
1) invoke script(1).
2) invoke the shell being tested.
3) cd(1) to the relevant directory
4) execute 'ls -lb'
5) execute 'ls -lb 11*"
6) exit the shell under test.
7) exit scriot(1)
8) save the 'typescript' file under an appropriate name.

repeat for each shell tested.

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x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread fredb

Hello,

I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which  
I was using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?


Best regards,
Fred


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CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Ramu Chakravadhanula
hi,

I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do
that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please
help me, thank you.

Best regards,
ramu
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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
fr...@getnet.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which  
> I was using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?

Better ask on po...@freebsd.org

Cheers,
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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread Maciej Milewski
On Tuesday 24 of May 2011 15:53:06, fr...@getnet.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which
> I was using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?
> 
> Best regards,
> Fred
olvwm 4.2_1 x11-wm Deleted search for ports that depend on this port
Deprecated DEPRECATED: Upstream disapear and distfile is no more available
Expired This port expired on: 2011-05-01
OpenLook Virtual Window manager

There is no maintainer for this port.
Any concerns regarding this port should be directed to the FreeBSD Ports 
mailing list via po...@freebsd.org search for ports maintained by this 
maintainer

Source: 
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Re: Enable Sqlite3 module in python

2011-05-24 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 13:41, Maxim Khitrov  wrote:

> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Odhiambo Washington 
> wrote:
> > Hello members,
> >
> > I am on FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE and I am running with python2.7. However I
> have a
> > problem:
> >
> > mail# python2.7 -c 'import sqlite3'
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "", line 1, in 
> >  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/
> > sqlite3/__init__.py", line 24, in 
> >from dbapi2 import *
> >  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/sqlite3/dbapi2.py", line 27, in 
> >from _sqlite3 import *
> > ImportError: No module named _sqlite3
> >
> >
> > How do I enable the sqlite3 module in python2.7
>
> Install databases/py-sqlite3. The python installation shows the
> following message when it is finished:
>
> 
> Note that some of the standard modules are provided as separate
> ports since they require extra dependencies:
>
> bsddb   databases/py-bsddb
> gdbmdatabases/py-gdbm
> sqlite3 databases/py-sqlite3
> tkinter x11-toolkits/py-tkinter
>
> Install them as needed.
> 
>
> - Max
>


Thanks, Max!



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Re: SSD drive not recognized

2011-05-24 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 5/20/11 5:12 AM, Daniel Staal wrote:
> --As of May 19, 2011 5:30:19 PM -0400, Robert Simmons is alleged to have
> said:
> 
>> I recently upgraded a hard drive to an SSD drive.  Initially I bought
>> a cheap(er) Microcenter house branded SATA II drive (after looking
>> around online it turns out it is really an A-Data that was rebranded).
>>  It was recognized by the BIOS, but not by FreeBSD.  I decided to
>> return it and try a name brand (OCZ Vertex 2, 60GB) with the same
>> results.  The system is 8.2-RELEASE and this is a fresh install.
>>
>> The motherboard (ASRock K8Upgrade-NF3, nForce3 250 chipset) is only
>> SATA, not SATA II, but it has another SATA II drive (not SSD) that is
>> recognized just fine even without the jumper set to force it to SATA.
>> So, I don't think it is a problem with the drive negotiating down to
>> SATA, otherwise I don't think the BIOS would recognize it at all.
>>
>> What is the best way to figure out why FreeBSD does not recognize the
>> drive?
> 
> --As for the rest, it is mine.
> 
> Well, the traditional first start would be a dmesg.
> 
> I'm not sure if there is any possible reason why a SATA II drive might
> not work on a SATA I interface, but I suppose it's a possibility.  A
> good regular HD can fill a SATA I interface, so it could be possible
> that they never expected an SSD to be attached to one.
> 
> Daniel T. Staal
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Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi,
Reference:
> From: Ramu Chakravadhanula  
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:38:36 +0200 
> Message-id:

Ramu Chakravadhanula wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do
> that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please
> help me, thank you.

WTF is Crux ? Oh yet another Linux, is that all ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRUX
Lightweight, i686-optimized GNU/Linux distribution targeted
at experienced GNU/Linux users and delivered by a tar.gz-based
package system with BSD-style initscripts. It also utilizes
a ports system to install and upgrade applications.

...
CRUX, unlike other GNU/Linux distributions, doesn't include
a GUI installation program. Instead, the user boots the
kernel stored on either a CD or diskette; partitions the
hard disk drive(s) to which the operating system will be
installed (using a program such as fdisk

So There's your answer, type:   
man fdisk 
Then think how much disk you have, if you a spare, how your going
to shrink partitions maybe, repartition, & cross mount.
Which depends on your hardware & Unix skill level.

If you get really stuck, back up your CRUX to other media.  Reinstall
eithe CRUX or BSD, making sure neither OS takes all the disc, leaving
room for the other OS later ..  then restore CRUX data into CRUX
partition.

Good luck

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Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Ramu Chakravadhanula wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do
> that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please

PS did you know 8.2 exists ?

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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM,   wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was
> using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?

I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well.
Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see
it go from the FreeBSD ports collection.

% grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED
x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile
is no more available

I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available
distfile, which fortunately is still with us:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z

There are also two patches there:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z

Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have
gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to
a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports
or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports
could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude
und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO.

> Best regards,
> Fred

Regards,
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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
"C. P. Ghost" wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM,   wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was
> > using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?
> 
> I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well.
> Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see
> it go from the FreeBSD ports collection.
> 
> % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED
> x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile
> is no more available
> 
> I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available
> distfile, which fortunately is still with us:
> 
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z
> 
> There are also two patches there:
> 
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have
> gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to
> a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports
> or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports
> could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude
> und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO.

They'll be in what what people call the Attic I suppose.
man cvs
tells how to extract to particular dates.

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Re: Filename containing French characters ?

2011-05-24 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Modulok  wrote:
> Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt':

(...)

Very good hints indeed.

I once had a directory full of files with strange characters, so I wrote a
little program that replaced every non-ascii char in a filename with its
hex-encoding (like this: "Hello%20World%21", % escape char), so
I could manipulate them with the shell. As long as the expanded
filenames didn't hit the MAXNAMELEN limit in , it
worked perfectly.

I could dig this C program out of old archives, but I guess that it is
faster to rewrite it on the fly, or even script it with sh(1), tr(1), awk(1),
and find(1)... ;-)

Alternatively to such a run-once-in-a-while program, I could also
imagine a file system layer on top of existing file systems that
would do this conversion automatically, but that's harder to code,
and harder to debug (kernel mode!).

-cpghost.

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Re: Filename containing French characters ?

2011-05-24 Thread Frank Bonnet


finally one of our developer has written
a php function that transcode all accentuated
characters to the corresponding non accentuated
thanks to her !!!

but the problem is NOT solved just workarrounded


Le 24/05/2011 19:53, C. P. Ghost a écrit :

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Modulok  wrote:

Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt':


(...)

Very good hints indeed.

I once had a directory full of files with strange characters, so I wrote a
little program that replaced every non-ascii char in a filename with its
hex-encoding (like this: "Hello%20World%21", % escape char), so
I could manipulate them with the shell. As long as the expanded
filenames didn't hit the MAXNAMELEN limit in, it
worked perfectly.

I could dig this C program out of old archives, but I guess that it is
faster to rewrite it on the fly, or even script it with sh(1), tr(1), awk(1),
and find(1)... ;-)

Alternatively to such a run-once-in-a-while program, I could also
imagine a file system layer on top of existing file systems that
would do this conversion automatically, but that's harder to code,
and harder to debug (kernel mode!).

-cpghost.


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Re: Filename containing French characters ?

2011-05-24 Thread Chuck Swiger
On May 24, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> finally one of our developer has written
> a php function that transcode all accentuated
> characters to the corresponding non accentuated
> thanks to her !!!
> 
> but the problem is NOT solved just workarrounded

Sure.  FreeBSD's default filesystem supports UTF8, but not arbitrary 
composition of Unicode characters.  If you want this to work better, you need 
to make sure that you use normalized UTF8 filenames and UTF8 URLs from Apache.

It's likely that a discussion of Unicode normalization would be helpful:

  http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr15/index.html

IBM's ICU (at http://site.icu-project.org/), or Apple's discussion of HFS 
normalization ("Unicode Normal Forms D", at 
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa2001/qa1235.html) would also be 
informative.

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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 07:09:11PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> Just letting then disappear silently is rude und unnecessary, but that's just 
> IMHO.

I completely agree. That's happened to me before, I spent so much time getting 
things set up the way I like it for it all to be in vain. We're only users of 
the distribution afterall. 
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Re: CRUX and FREE BSD

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 04:38:36PM +0200, Ramu Chakravadhanula wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I have to make CRUX and FREE BSD dual boot. Is that possible? how can i do
> that?? I have CRUX installed before. now i want to use Free BSD 7.3. please
> help me, thank you.

The best thing would be to delete Linux off the partition and put FreeBSD on 
it. Linux is always disappointing and you'll learn much more from using a 
proper UNIX system. 
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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread Chris Rees
On 24 May 2011 18:09, C. P. Ghost  wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM,   wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was
>> using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?
>
> I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well.
> Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see
> it go from the FreeBSD ports collection.
>
> % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED
> x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile
> is no more available
>
> I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available
> distfile, which fortunately is still with us:
>
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z
>
> There are also two patches there:
>
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z
>
> Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have
> gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to
> a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports
> or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports
> could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude
> und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO.

I don't understand your comment on silence -- they've been deprecated
for a while now.

I'll take a look at resurrecting and hosting it tomorrow, if people
are interested.

Chris
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Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Andy Wodfer
Hi,
One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large number of
hung tcp connections and I want them gone.

Can anyone help me with a script (command line) that can read a netstat -n
and tcpdrop all IP addresses that has more than 10 connections or a more
manual command where I can input an IP and it will drop all connections from
that IP regardless of port?

Thanks in advance!

Shell scripting isn't what I'm best at unfortunatly ...

Andy
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Re: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 5/24/11 4:29 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
> Hi,
> One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
> blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large number of
> hung tcp connections and I want them gone.
> 
> Can anyone help me with a script (command line) that can read a netstat -n
> and tcpdrop all IP addresses that has more than 10 connections or a more
> manual command where I can input an IP and it will drop all connections from
> that IP regardless of port?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Shell scripting isn't what I'm best at unfortunatly ...
> 
> Andy

Hi Andy,

This will drop all connections to/from IP address 192.168.22.22:

tcpdrop -l -a | grep 192.168.22.22 | sh

Just substitute your desired IP address, and that will do the trick.

Good luck,
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Re: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Andy Wodfer
Thanks!
That would work on all my servers except this one .. which runs 6.3 STABLE
(due to some old services requiring old software).

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Andy


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> On 5/24/11 4:29 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
> > Hi,
> > One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
> > blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large number
> of
> > hung tcp connections and I want them gone.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with a script (command line) that can read a netstat
> -n
> > and tcpdrop all IP addresses that has more than 10 connections or a more
> > manual command where I can input an IP and it will drop all connections
> from
> > that IP regardless of port?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Shell scripting isn't what I'm best at unfortunatly ...
> >
> > Andy
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> This will drop all connections to/from IP address 192.168.22.22:
>
> tcpdrop -l -a | grep 192.168.22.22 | sh
>
> Just substitute your desired IP address, and that will do the trick.
>
> Good luck,
> Greg
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Re: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Andy Wodfer  wrote:
> Hi,
> One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
> blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large number of
> hung tcp connections and I want them gone.
>

I know it's not what you're asking but for the future try fail2ban. I
can gladly post a simple how to here for FreeBSD.

It's a very simple solution but I have been keeping off pests quite
well with fail2ban. I think it's an awesome and simple framework to
automatically ban IPs and they just move on to the th next server. In
fact you can see the bannings diminish in time as they are the one
that get tired ;-)

Good luck,

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Re: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Greg Larkin
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On 5/24/11 4:48 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
> Thanks!
> That would work on all my servers except this one .. which runs 6.3 STABLE
> (due to some old services requiring old software).
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Andy
> 

Ok, here goes:

netstat -an | grep ^tcp | grep -v LISTEN | awk '{ print $5 }' | egrep -v
'^(172\.16|192\.168|127\.0)' | cut -f1-4 -d\. | awk '{ a[$1]++ } END {
for (i in a) { if (a[i] > 10) { print i; } } }' | xargs -n1 -I % sh -c
'sockstat -c | grep %' | awk '{ print $6 " " $7 }' | sed -e 's/:/ /g' -e
's/^/tcpdrop /'

Paste that all on one line, and it should print (but not execute!)
tcpdrop commands for IPs that have more than 10 connections to your
server.  The commands will work on 6.x and later versions of the OS,
since it doesn't use "tcpdrop -l -a".

If you like the output and want to actually run the tcpdrop commands,
add "| sh" to the end of the pipeline.

YMMV, because I didn't actually execute the commands. I just printed the
tcpdrop commands, and they looked good.

Good luck,
Greg

> 
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Greg Larkin  wrote:
> 
> On 5/24/11 4:29 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
 Hi,
 One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
 blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large number
> of
 hung tcp connections and I want them gone.

 Can anyone help me with a script (command line) that can read a netstat
> -n
 and tcpdrop all IP addresses that has more than 10 connections or a more
 manual command where I can input an IP and it will drop all connections
> from
 that IP regardless of port?

 Thanks in advance!

 Shell scripting isn't what I'm best at unfortunatly ...

 Andy
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> This will drop all connections to/from IP address 192.168.22.22:
> 
> tcpdrop -l -a | grep 192.168.22.22 | sh
> 
> Just substitute your desired IP address, and that will do the trick.
> 
> Good luck,
> Greg
>>
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Re: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Andy Wodfer
Thanks a lot! That was very helpful!

Things have calmed down now.

However, I was surprised to see how quick the tcp connections came back in
netstat. Have to take a closer look at my firewall I guess.

Cheers!
Andy

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> On 5/24/11 4:48 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
> > Thanks!
> > That would work on all my servers except this one .. which runs 6.3
> STABLE
> > (due to some old services requiring old software).
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Andy
> >
>
> Ok, here goes:
>
> netstat -an | grep ^tcp | grep -v LISTEN | awk '{ print $5 }' | egrep -v
> '^(172\.16|192\.168|127\.0)' | cut -f1-4 -d\. | awk '{ a[$1]++ } END {
> for (i in a) { if (a[i] > 10) { print i; } } }' | xargs -n1 -I % sh -c
> 'sockstat -c | grep %' | awk '{ print $6 " " $7 }' | sed -e 's/:/ /g' -e
> 's/^/tcpdrop /'
>
> Paste that all on one line, and it should print (but not execute!)
> tcpdrop commands for IPs that have more than 10 connections to your
> server.  The commands will work on 6.x and later versions of the OS,
> since it doesn't use "tcpdrop -l -a".
>
> If you like the output and want to actually run the tcpdrop commands,
> add "| sh" to the end of the pipeline.
>
> YMMV, because I didn't actually execute the commands. I just printed the
> tcpdrop commands, and they looked good.
>
> Good luck,
> Greg
>
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Greg Larkin 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/24/11 4:29 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
>  Hi,
>  One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
>  blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large
> number
> > of
>  hung tcp connections and I want them gone.
> 
>  Can anyone help me with a script (command line) that can read a
> netstat
> > -n
>  and tcpdrop all IP addresses that has more than 10 connections or a
> more
>  manual command where I can input an IP and it will drop all
> connections
> > from
>  that IP regardless of port?
> 
>  Thanks in advance!
> 
>  Shell scripting isn't what I'm best at unfortunatly ...
> 
>  Andy
> >
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > This will drop all connections to/from IP address 192.168.22.22:
> >
> > tcpdrop -l -a | grep 192.168.22.22 | sh
> >
> > Just substitute your desired IP address, and that will do the trick.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Greg
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canon ip4700 and cups

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
hello

i'm trying to get my canon ip4700 printer setup with cups. i'm half way there, 
get to add the printer in the web interface but no driver listed. i've 
installed the ports suggested in the handbook section on cups for drivers. it 
lists drivers for most of the ip series except mine which is typical. as along 
shot i downloaded the source from canon for linux and tried to use the ppd file 
that came with but needless to say it didn't work. 

does anyone use this printer on FreeBSD, if you do i'd love to know how you got 
it set up. 


best wishes, 

jamie
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RE: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

2011-05-24 Thread Gary Gatten
FWIW:, you may also try "null routing" the suspicious / bad IP ranges vs. 
adding to firewall confs.  Typically far less overhead, and perhaps "easier".  
YMMV.

G


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From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andy Wodfer
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:10 PM
To: glar...@freebsd.org
Cc: freebsd-questions
Subject: Re: Urgent: Under attack - need tcpdrop help

Thanks a lot! That was very helpful!

Things have calmed down now.

However, I was surprised to see how quick the tcp connections came back in
netstat. Have to take a closer look at my firewall I guess.

Cheers!
Andy

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Greg Larkin  wrote:

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> On 5/24/11 4:48 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
> > Thanks!
> > That would work on all my servers except this one .. which runs 6.3
> STABLE
> > (due to some old services requiring old software).
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Andy
> >
>
> Ok, here goes:
>
> netstat -an | grep ^tcp | grep -v LISTEN | awk '{ print $5 }' | egrep -v
> '^(172\.16|192\.168|127\.0)' | cut -f1-4 -d\. | awk '{ a[$1]++ } END {
> for (i in a) { if (a[i] > 10) { print i; } } }' | xargs -n1 -I % sh -c
> 'sockstat -c | grep %' | awk '{ print $6 " " $7 }' | sed -e 's/:/ /g' -e
> 's/^/tcpdrop /'
>
> Paste that all on one line, and it should print (but not execute!)
> tcpdrop commands for IPs that have more than 10 connections to your
> server.  The commands will work on 6.x and later versions of the OS,
> since it doesn't use "tcpdrop -l -a".
>
> If you like the output and want to actually run the tcpdrop commands,
> add "| sh" to the end of the pipeline.
>
> YMMV, because I didn't actually execute the commands. I just printed the
> tcpdrop commands, and they looked good.
>
> Good luck,
> Greg
>
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Greg Larkin 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/24/11 4:29 PM, Andy Wodfer wrote:
>  Hi,
>  One of my FreeBSD servers is currently being attacked (DDOS) and I'm
>  blocking IP addresses in my firewall. However, there are a large
> number
> > of
>  hung tcp connections and I want them gone.
> 
>  Can anyone help me with a script (command line) that can read a
> netstat
> > -n
>  and tcpdrop all IP addresses that has more than 10 connections or a
> more
>  manual command where I can input an IP and it will drop all
> connections
> > from
>  that IP regardless of port?
> 
>  Thanks in advance!
> 
>  Shell scripting isn't what I'm best at unfortunatly ...
> 
>  Andy
> >
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > This will drop all connections to/from IP address 192.168.22.22:
> >
> > tcpdrop -l -a | grep 192.168.22.22 | sh
> >
> > Just substitute your desired IP address, and that will do the trick.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Greg
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Re: canon ip4700 and cups

2011-05-24 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:

> i'm trying to get my canon ip4700 printer setup with cups. i'm half way
> there, get to add the printer in the web interface but no driver listed.
> i've installed the ports suggested in the handbook section on cups for
> drivers. it lists drivers for most of the ip series except mine which is
> typical. as along shot i downloaded the source from canon for linux and
> tried to use the ppd file that came with but needless to say it didn't work.
>
> does anyone use this printer on FreeBSD, if you do i'd love to know how you
> got it set up.
>

print/gutenprint

-- 
Adam Vande More
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Re: x11-wm/olvwm

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Simmons
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Chris Rees  wrote:
> On 24 May 2011 18:09, C. P. Ghost  wrote:
>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM,   wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was
>>> using was gone from the ports tree.  Why?
>>
>> I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well.
>> Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see
>> it go from the FreeBSD ports collection.
>>
>> % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED
>> x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile
>> is no more available
>>
>> I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available
>> distfile, which fortunately is still with us:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z
>>
>> There are also two patches there:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z
>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have
>> gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to
>> a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports
>> or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports
>> could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude
>> und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO.
>
> I don't understand your comment on silence -- they've been deprecated
> for a while now.
>
> I'll take a look at resurrecting and hosting it tomorrow, if people
> are interested.

I grabbed the source and took a look at it.  At the end of the README
there is the following line: "Bugs may be reported to Scott Oaks
(scott.o...@east.sun.com), who will try to fix bugs whenever he can."
Looks to be the old maintainer from the Sun days.  The tarball that I
grabbed doesn't have the LEGAL_NOTICE file, so it's not clear to me
which Sun license it is under.

It seems that the port depends on the olgx library which also seems to
be deprecated.

On xwinman.org, this wm's development activity is listed as "LOW".

So, all of this leads me to point out the following: FOSS is a
volunteer thing.  If a maintainer evaporates and the port gets old, it
is taken out of the ports tree.  It's not gone, you can still get
everything if you pull the old ports tree from a specific data as was
mentioned in another reply.  But, if someone writes FOSS, they don't
_have_ to maintain it.  If you really like it, and it has been
abandoned, by all means, pick it up, dust it off, and start updating
the code.

As a user of FOSS, you are not entitled to updates from the
maintainers.  You are, however, a beneficiary of the maintainer's
volunteering their time and effort to provide you with updates.

That aside.  If you don't have time to maintain it, then look for an
alternative.  I would suggest looking at xwinman.org and see if there
is another wm that has a "High" development activity that has a
similar look and feel to the one that you want.
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Re: canon ip4700 and cups

2011-05-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 06:30:22PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
 
> print/gutenprint
 
I already have that port installed. 

jamie
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