upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2
I did a portupgrade on a freebsd 8.2-RELEASE of the portupgrade program itself portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2 needs updating (index has 2.4.9,2) (that upgraded also ruby to 1.9: ... === Cleaning for ruby-1.9.2.290,1 === Cleaning for ruby19-bdb-0.6.6 === Cleaning for libffi-3.0.9 === Cleaning for libyaml-0.1.4_1 === Cleaning for portupgrade-2.4.9,2 ) After the portupgrade finished, I did # pkgdb -F --- Checking the package registry database Duplicated origin: databases/ruby-bdb - ruby18-bdb-0.6.6 ruby19-bdb-0.6.6 Unregister any of them? [no] yes Unregister ruby18-bdb-0.6.6 keeping the installed files intact? [no] yes - ruby19-bdb-0.6.6 is kept. -- Saving the ruby18-bdb-0.6.6's +CONTENTS file as /var/db/pkg/ruby19-bdb-0.6 .6/+CONTENTS.ruby18-bdb-0.6.6 -- Unregistering ruby18-bdb-0.6.6 -- Done. [Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 70 packages found (- 1 +0) (...) done] Stale dependency: portupgrade-2.4.9,2 - ruby18-bdb-0.6.6 (databases/ruby-bdb): undefined method `map' for #String:0x0801cfc020 # pkgdb -F --- Checking the package registry database Stale dependency: portupgrade-2.4.9,2 - ruby18-bdb-0.6.6 (databases/ruby-bdb): undefined method `map' for #String:0x08016ea628 So it seems portupgrade does not use ruby 1.9, but I already unregistered it How to un-unregister that, or how to make portugprade use ruby 1.9 ? There's nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about that.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: amarok doesn't support id3v2?
On Saturday 20 August 2011 22:31:18 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:10:01 -0500 Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:22:28 +0200 Tijl Coosemans t...@coosemans.org wrote: I suspect taglib uses id3v2.4 whereas id3lib (used by id3v2 port) only supports id3v2.3. Ah, interesting. Hadn't considered such a possibility. Still, I'm puzzled. If I take a perfectly tagged file, modify it in any way inside amarok, and then try to view the tags again using the command line tool id3v2, all the id3v2 tags have been blown away. Is there that radical a change between the ID3 spec version 2.3 and 2.4 that the tags would be completely unrecognizable anymore by id3v2? I asked about this on the id3v2 mailing list, and apparently, it is quite likely that some of the newer tags/frames in 2.4 are tripping up the older id3v2 tool. Gonna do a little hex dumping, etc. to verify, but it sounds like the probable cause. Any replacement suggestions for id3v2? I've gotten used to using this thing in my little custom scripts. Obviously need something new here. There's audio/tagutil, but as a generic tag editor it's not as powerful as an editor specific for id3 tags. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: A quality operating system
On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: --As of August 20, 2011 7:01:07 PM -0700, Carl G Smith is alleged to have said: I have heard that the OS X OS is based on FreeBSD. Is this true? --As for the rest, it is mine. Partially. It combines a mostly Mach kernel with some FreeBSD-derived userland and interfaces, then adds a proprietary window manager and UI on top of the rest. So the largest single source of code is probably FreeBSD, but neither the kernel or the part most people interact with isn't. This is incorrect. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2008-August/003674.html I read the article... and it says that the largest single source of code when it was written was FreeBSD. 21MM lines out of 39MM overall. Now since then they've released a lot of new features and what-not so I doubt it still holds at 53.8% but I would bet it is still the single largest source of code. Does it matter? No. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS and NFS or CIFS
--As of August 19, 2011 1:43:23 AM -0400, Chris Brennan is alleged to have said: I have several ZFS volumes set up on my FreeBSD 8.2 (32-bit) server at home and I am trying to figure out how to set up a NFS and/or CIFS share of the various volumes I have created and for the life of me, I can't figure it out. I don't really care which one or both right now (I should learn both). I just have tons and tons of data to move from my Windows desktop to this server and I'd like to use something other then SFTP, even over my LAN, it's very slow. Many thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction... --As for the rest, it is mine. I've only tried NFS, but it's fairly easy. Either of these are controlled by ZFS properties, set by the command `zfs set` with the property names being 'sharesmb' or 'sharenfs'. The value of the property is the options you want to use for the share. See `man zfs` for more detail, plus the docs for the type of share you decide to set up for the options. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:13:32PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello. ;=) Thanks for the comments.. :=) No, I am curious what they decided to use that covers all the points , at least better that FreeBSD. Seriously I would like to see or hear about the comparison chart between all OSs. And a question arrive to my mind... if for some reason, I know it is impossible, but if for some reason FreeBSD would stop existing... serious users of FreeBSD, what would be your next OS? Why? I'd have to do some serious thinking about the comparative benefits of DragonFly BSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and a number of Linux distributions. I have a sneaking suspicion I'd end up with NetBSD or OpenBSD, though. Note that I'm talking about my primary OS of choice. I use OSes other than FreeBSD already for specific purposes (i.e., Win7 for portability testing, OpenBSD for firewall/router). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpn8Fh8rz5P5.pgp Description: PGP signature
What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
Okay, I'm back. I sprang for Gentoo and Fedora 15 distribution discs, and now I seem to have a nice, but expensive, set of coasters because apparently all of Linux has gone tiny console fonts at something like 170x48 resolution (and really are turning themselves into Gnome machines that totally neglect command line applications). Since I am in unices for the command line applications I don't have much choice. But I still don't want to be stranded in an orphaned version when 7.x reaches the end of its life. Since uart in 8.x will not support my PCI 3com hardware modem (as FreeBSD sio has since 4.x) and my PR is gathering dust, before I buy any more coaster sets from osdisc.com, it behooves to ask if there are any dialup modems that 8.x uart actually supports for ppp on demand? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:13:32PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello. ;=) Thanks for the comments.. :=) No, I am curious what they decided to use that covers all the points , at least better that FreeBSD. Seriously I would like to see or hear about the comparison chart between all OSs. And a question arrive to my mind... if for some reason, I know it is impossible, but if for some reason FreeBSD would stop existing... serious users of FreeBSD, what would be your next OS? Why? Take care all I would/use NetBSD and OpenBSD beside FreeBSD. If NetBSD or OpenBSD would stop existing, I would never upgrade my systems :) Fortunately, I have no doubts about existing of BSDs... JB At 09:09 p.m. 20/08/2011, Ryan Coleman wrote: I use FreeBSD 9, 8.2 and 8.1. OS X 10.7 (Lion) Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), Windows Vista Ultimate (64-bit) and Windows XP Professional (32-bit). iOS 4, Blackberry 6 and Android 2.2.2. Oh, you weren't asking me. Sorry. :-p On Aug 20, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello. I insist Can we know what was the OS you all decided to use ? Thanks Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Christian Barthel Public-Key: http://bc.user-mode.org/bc.asc Mail: b...@nyx.user-mode.org Web: http://bc.user-mode.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A quality operating system
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Evan Busch antiequal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hi Evan, I think your post should spark a reality check for many here but I come from the Linux world and I must say that at least in all tthe techincal aspects my experience has been completely different, so I have to disagree with the vast majority, albeit not all, of your points which I will answer below one by one. [...] Over the past few years, FreeBSD has drifted off-course in this department, in his view. Disagree. I've worked with FreeBSD since 6.2 and it's only been getting better and better. FreeBSD is getting faster and better whilst Linux really seems to have drifted from direction like you say. We use Linux and MacOSX for development and FreeBSD on our servers. We have made tests with Multi-threaded Apache on Linux 2.6.30 versus FreeBSD 7.x and 8.x and the FreeBSD virtual memory manager puts Linux' to shame every single time. The truth is that when you push Linux to near exhaustion of it's swap it will never return to normal, you will most surely need to reboot it, yet FreeBSD come back to normal after each peak load. Your could of course, get your hand dirty and tweak each of the OS's vm to your specific application, but like you very say, I don't have time for that and in some areas I just want my OS to work in it's vanilla flavor. Let me share the points he made that I consider valid (I have deleted two as trivial, and added one of my own): (1) Lack of direction. FreeBSD is still not sure whether it is a desktop OS, or a server OS. It is easy for the developers to say well, it's whatever you want, but this makes the configuration process more involved. This works against people who have to use these operating systems to get anything done. I don't think there is any doubt that FreeBSD as such is more a server-oriented OS that can be configured as a high-end Workstation. PC-BSD on the other hand is aiming more for the Laptop and Workstation user whilst maintaining it's FBSD core intact. In his view, a crucial metric here is the ability to estimate time required for any task. It may be a wide window, but it should not be as wide as anywhere from 30 minutes to 96 hours. In his experience, FreeBSD varies widely on this front because in the name of keeping options open, standardization of interface and process has been deprecated. We haven't experienced this ever. Both with Linux and FreeBSD you will experience this depending mainly on hardware support. It's got nothing to do with the OS but with the fact that HW manufacturers don't support Open Source simply because they hardware is getting cheaper every day being replaced by software that eats up the central CPU. You comment above sound like the rants that Windoze users took on LInux back in the nineties. (2) Geek culture. Geek culture is the oldest clique on the internet. Their goal is to make friends with no one who is not like them. As a result, they specialize in the arcane, disorganized and ambiguous. This forces people to go through the same hoops they went through. This makes them happy, and drives away people who need to use operating systems to achieve real-world results. They reduce a community to hobbyists only. Honestly I don't understand where you are getting this from. I don't seem to have experienced anything like what you are describing. On the contrary, I find FreeBSD to very organized and well maintained. (3) Horrible documentation. This is my specialty and has been since the early 1980s. The FreeBSD documentation is wordy, disorganized, inconsistent and highly selective in what it mentions. It is not the product of professionals but it also not the product of volunteers with a focus on communication. It seems pro-forma, as in, it's in the documentation, so don't bother me. The web site compounds this error by pointing us in multiple directions instead of to a singular resource. It is bad enough that man pages are separate from your main documentation tree, but now you have doubled or trebled the workload required of you without any benefit to the end user. Again, are you speaking from personal experience or are you posting the points of view of someone else? This is so funny because I loved FreeBSD from the start precisely because it had a one and only handbook, not like Linux where every distro does whatever the hell they want with their docs. I learned how to use FreeBSD from the on-line Handbook and the asking specific questions on the list. Sometimes they go unanswered, true, but many other times they are in archives. Also, the way that Linux distros change the original projects and configuration files layout is really anoying to me. FreeBSD stays aligned with the original project and lays out the installation and configuration structure that is faithful to the original project. Many times it's even easier to find answers in the original packages mainly because the way the are set-up
Re: A quality operating system
On 21/08/2011 05:13, Jorge Biquez wrote: if for some reason, I know it is impossible, but if for some reason FreeBSD would stop existing... serious users of FreeBSD, what would be your next OS? If the FreeBSD project disbanded (for some unimaginable reason), then I guess I'd have to choose an OS based on one of the forks of FreeBSD code base that would undoubtedly be created as a reaction to that. About the only thing that could conceivably cause FreeBSD to disband would be some sort of deep schism and internecine conflict within the developer community. Even so, the usual course is for one of the schismatic groups to leave in a huff and start their own project, leaving the rump of the original to lick its wounds and carry on. Any damage is generally only a temporary thing: eventually it makes the whole community stronger due to cross fertilization between the various different branches. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Firefox consistently inconsistent in the playing of videos
I am trying to figure out why some video files play fine while others simply do not work at all. This would be the latest example: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-11-2011/lactate-intolerance It works fine on a Windows machine with IE (no surprise there); however, using Firefox 6.0 on FreeBSD-8.2 it simply will not work. Some other videos from the same site do work correctly though. This phenomena has happened to me several times on several different sites. I have contacted a few sites to see if I could get some assistance. I was informed by the few who bothered to reply that they test their material against IE and Firefox run under Windows. One responder informed me that testing against non-windows architecture was not a viable option due to the extreme fragmentation of the non-windows community. Anyway, I was hoping that perhaps someone might have a working solution for this predicament. -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox consistently inconsistent in the playing of videos
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I am trying to figure out why some video files play fine while others simply do not work at all. This would be the latest example: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-11-2011/lactate-intolerance Video plays perfectly for me on recent STABLE, firefox and flash. Someone else was mentioning a similar situation on emulation@ or @current perhaps? It wasn't that long ago, and every reply was works for me. You can see if the OP from that message was able to resolve the issue. I have noticed flash has been a bit more unstable lately especially on youtube after a period of time where it was relatively error free. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox consistently inconsistent in the playing of videos
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I am trying to figure out why some video files play fine while others simply do not work at all. This would be the latest example: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-11-2011/lactate-intolerance I'm running FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 #22: Sun Aug 21 05:16:20 CDT 2011 with 512 Aug 18 07:39 amd64 and /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0,1 and this plays perfectly. Maybe the difference between 8.0 and 9. So this probably doesn't help much. I've got a 7.4-STABLE i386 at the office that I will install it on and test it tomorrow. It is running 5 now. I would probably use csup and then portmaster to update my ports and friends, just to try and keep these things in order. sorry, ed It works fine on a Windows machine with IE (no surprise there); however, using Firefox 6.0 on FreeBSD-8.2 it simply will not work. Some other videos from the same site do work correctly though. This phenomena has happened to me several times on several different sites. I have contacted a few sites to see if I could get some assistance. I was informed by the few who bothered to reply that they test their material against IE and Firefox run under Windows. One responder informed me that testing against non-windows architecture was not a viable option due to the extreme fragmentation of the non-windows community. Anyway, I was hoping that perhaps someone might have a working solution for this predicament. -- Carmel ✌ carmel...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox consistently inconsistent in the playing of videos
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:12:56 -0400 Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I am trying to figure out why some video files play fine while others simply do not work at all. This would be the latest example: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-11-2011/lactate-intolerance It works fine on a Windows machine with IE (no surprise there); however, using Firefox 6.0 on FreeBSD-8.2 it simply will not work. Some other videos from the same site do work correctly though. This phenomena has happened to me several times on several different sites. I have contacted a few sites to see if I could get some assistance. I was informed by the few who bothered to reply that they test their material against IE and Firefox run under Windows. One responder informed me that testing against non-windows architecture was not a viable option due to the extreme fragmentation of the non-windows community. Anyway, I was hoping that perhaps someone might have a working solution for this predicament. As to be expected, you're not likely to get much help from any particular site you're having problems with. Get used to it. :-) Which video driver are you using? And how do you normally install your software packages, via ports or packages? There was a mention in one of the lists about making sure to set the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU=yes option in /etc/make.conf before building and installing xorg. You may want to try that. I was having problems with flash here myself, took this advice and rebuilt my entire xorg installation. It's working much, much better now. Lockups and other annoying glitches have pretty much gone away altogether, and every site I visit works just fine now. The site you gave above works fine for me, by the way, under 9.0-BETA1 for amd64 with the linux flashplugin (wrapped, of course, with nspluginwrapper). Hope this helps. If you need any further assistance, let me know. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How much memory does ZFS use?
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:38:27 -0700 Yuri wrote: Someone told me that ZFS is a memory hog and it should be avoided as such. Is this true? I wonder if this might be a mix-up between virtual and physical memory. It's use of address space can be prohibitive on i386. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox consistently inconsistent in the playing of videos
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Carmel wrote: I am trying to figure out why some video files play fine while others simply do not work at all. This would be the latest example: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-11-2011/lactate-intolerance Works here on 8.2-stable i386, Firefox 6. Remember to remove and install or update with nspluginwrapper after a new Flash version comes out. flashblock.mozdev.org might help, as it lets you only run the Flash instances you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ezjail freebsd-update
I had an opportunity to upgrade a server from freebsd 8.1 to 8.2 since it had to be restarted any way. I upgraded it with freebsd-update and compiled a custom kernel with no problem. However I haven't been able to find a procedure for updating jails when they've been setup with ezjail. I did 'ezjail-admin update -u' however it doesn't seem like that upgraded things like the /etc/ dir inside jails. I'm not too worried since everything is working however if anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. I figure this will be especially important when moving to 9.0 when it's released. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Parklogic making a mess
Bernt Hansson wrote: 2010-08-22 00:48, Bruce Cran skrev: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 Svein Skogenlt;sv...@stillbilde.netgt; wrote: Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. I haven't seen them, and haven't looked for them. I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had hoped for! Ok. Then parklogic is permanetly blacklisted here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi all, I know that this is an old thread but I only just discovered it. I'm the founder of ParkLogic and it would appear that we created some issues with replying back to email to to the 500K domains that we manage for our clients. I would first of all like to apologise.apparently we were creating a vicious loop with different mailing systems where we would reply back to a message that would then be sent to the mailing list etc We've now outsourced our mailing and I wanted to make sure that there were no mishaps in the administrator community. Also, for the person that contacted us.not sure who you spoke to as getting a SPAM filter is the LAST response we would give. This was particularly for the situation where we were running a test system. Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions. Regards, -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Parklogic-making-a-mess-tp3758946p4722187.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
