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Re: Webcam Selection
El día Wednesday, February 29, 2012 a las 10:20:12AM +1000, Da Rock escribió: > On 02/29/12 06:46, Cy Schubert wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > After a number of years just lying in desk drawer my old Logitech spherical > > webcam died. So, I'm looking for a new one. It's not that I use it a lot. > > My wife will be heading out of province to our son's place next month to be > > there for the birth of our first grandson. The plan was to use a webcam to > > send back pictures later (not on the day of, of course but a week later). > > Anyhow I need to replace the old with a new webcam. The last time I used > > the old webcam it was hooked up to a Windows XP system. I've since retired > > that machine, along with the retirement of three FreeBSD machines, leaving > > me with a few servers and my FreeBSD laptop. I'm hoping to use the webcam > > with Pidgin with MSN. Can anyone suggest a brand and model? It needs to > > have good image quality and needs to work with FreeBSD 9.0. Any suggestions? See http://wiki.freebsd.org/WebcamCompat for a list of known to work webcams; HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.4.rc5 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc5 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users). The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc5,1.tbz) = 53c37ef9fbd0f12f6c456efac942a575 MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc5,1.txz) = 4f653f5d8e29fd5e7811dec2f81469a8 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Simple question about pkg_add ...
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:41:46 +1030, David Walker wrote: > Hi Polytropon. > > I did have a look inside and I did pkg_add -v which gives enough > information combined with my meagre knowledge to guess that it had > something to do with source. A port (as you can find it inside the archive) is a "recipe" for dealing with sources, e. g. where to obtain then, how to compile, where to install to and so on. The ports collection of the FreeBSD OS is used to deal with handling software based on sources: configure, patch, build, install, deinstall, upgrade and similar tasks. See "man ports" for a better explaination. > I'm so unfamiliar with pkg_add I'm not sure if that is normal. The pkg_add utility installs programs from binary packages. Those packages are created by compiling a port - typically with its default options. Those packages are built for the FreeBSD ports collection and made available by the FreeBSD team. "External packages", created outside the world of FreeBSD ports, are possible. See "man pkg_add" for details. > I'm very new here. > Certainly it's not in a suitable format for pkg_add to deal with. Correct. A pkg_add package typically contains compiled stuff, i. e. binaries, and a "packaging list" for installation and later removal. Additional tasks can also be scripted. > I guess pkg_add is the preferred option for firmware installation. It's used to install programs (or libraries) to the FreeBSD system. The use with firmware is also possible. Basically, ports (from source) and packages (precompiled binaries) have the same purpose: Get things installed. If the maintainer would compile the port (that he provided for download) and give the proper URL of the result in the manpage, pkg_add would work as intended. > I'll contact the maintainer. That would be a good idea as the description you quoted from the manpage is technically not correct. Option 1: Provide a pkg_add-able package. Option 2: Provide instructions on how to deal with the port. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Simple question about pkg_add ...
Hi Polytropon. I did have a look inside and I did pkg_add -v which gives enough information combined with my meagre knowledge to guess that it had something to do with source. I'm so unfamiliar with pkg_add I'm not sure if that is normal. I'm very new here. Certainly it's not in a suitable format for pkg_add to deal with. I guess pkg_add is the preferred option for firmware installation. I'll contact the maintainer. On 29/02/2012, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:52:13 +1030, David Walker wrote: >> Hey. >> >> I believe I have a pcmcia card that requires upgt firmware. >> From upgt(4) ... >> >> This driver requires the upgtfw firmware to be installed before it >> will >> work. The firmware files are not publicly available. A package of >> the >> firmware which can be installed via pkg_add(1) is available: >> >> http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz >> >> pkg_add http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz >> Fetching http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz... >> Done. >> pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a >> package? > > Did you have a look at what's inside the .tar.gz file? > A directory upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0 with the following > files: Makefile, distinfo, pkg-descr, and pkg-plist. > > Obviously, that's not a binary package for pkg_add use. > It's a port. > > Extract the file and use it with the port infrastructure > (i. e. "make install"). > > Seems that the instruction in "man 4 upgt" is just missing > the proper terminology... > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DTrace userland
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Marc Abramowitz wrote: > Here's another way to cause a kernel panic: > > [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo kldload dtraceall > ... > [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:test:main:entry' -c > ./test > dtrace: description 'pid$target:test:main:entry' matched 1 probe > dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m > CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME > 0 43030 main:entry > (Kernel panic! After reboot) > > I submitted a PR for this kernel panic at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165541 Marc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DTrace userland
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: > Please file a PR. These are problems that we have to fix. I submitted a PR for the kernel panic at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165541 Marc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Delete files let FreeBSD crashes.
Thanks . I had resolved the problem : 1. restart FreeBSD to single user mode. 2. umount all device then run fsck -f 3. after finished the fsck, restart FreeBSD , return to normal mode. 4. delete the broken directory, and restore the data from backup. 5. every thing seems ok now. netroby -- http://www.netroby.com 在 2012年2月28日 下午4:09,Damien Fleuriot 写道: > On 2/28/12 8:11 AM, netroby wrote: > > i installed freebsd 9 on virtualbox, when i try to delete a directory > > with following command: > > > > rm -rf ./zf2 > > > > the system will halt , then restart. > > > > i had using fsck -y to check the filesystem, but seems not work. > > > > following the output: > > > > *** HALT *** > > You're not running fsck on a MOUNTED device are you ? > > If you are, kindly stop doing so to prevent damage to your system. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VBox network boot
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: On 02/29/12 03:04, Carl Johnson wrote: Warren Block writes: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting in VBox on FBSD host? To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type. If the host is FreeBSD, the vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded. Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary. I was trying the Intel emulation and making no progress. I then noticed your page and tried the PCnet-PCI II card and it started working. I would guess that means their Intel card emulation is incomplete. I took it for granted the bridge part (I usually use it anyway), but I would never have guessed the PCnet card in a blue fit! There was even a PR on virtualbox for the issue of the lack of PXE with Oracle basically saying "too bad, so sad...". Apparently PXE licensing didn't allow them to distribute it directly, but offer an extension pack (which doesn't work on FBSD) instead. Ergo my conclusion. Apparently (based on this thread) it only affects intel cards though... Where is your page Warren, and why didn't it show up in my searches? ;) I'll follow it from here on out I think... Sorry, it's at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/pxe.html . ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Webcam Selection
On 02/29/12 06:46, Cy Schubert wrote: Hi all, After a number of years just lying in desk drawer my old Logitech spherical webcam died. So, I'm looking for a new one. It's not that I use it a lot. My wife will be heading out of province to our son's place next month to be there for the birth of our first grandson. The plan was to use a webcam to send back pictures later (not on the day of, of course but a week later). Anyhow I need to replace the old with a new webcam. The last time I used the old webcam it was hooked up to a Windows XP system. I've since retired that machine, along with the retirement of three FreeBSD machines, leaving me with a few servers and my FreeBSD laptop. I'm hoping to use the webcam with Pidgin with MSN. Can anyone suggest a brand and model? It needs to have good image quality and needs to work with FreeBSD 9.0. Any suggestions? Thanks to the hard work of Luigi Rizzo and Co, just about any CE device should work. If it works on linux it will work here now, using webcamd. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VBox network boot
On 02/29/12 03:04, Carl Johnson wrote: Warren Block writes: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting in VBox on FBSD host? To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type. If the host is FreeBSD, the vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded. Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary. I was trying the Intel emulation and making no progress. I then noticed your page and tried the PCnet-PCI II card and it started working. I would guess that means their Intel card emulation is incomplete. I took it for granted the bridge part (I usually use it anyway), but I would never have guessed the PCnet card in a blue fit! There was even a PR on virtualbox for the issue of the lack of PXE with Oracle basically saying "too bad, so sad...". Apparently PXE licensing didn't allow them to distribute it directly, but offer an extension pack (which doesn't work on FBSD) instead. Ergo my conclusion. Apparently (based on this thread) it only affects intel cards though... Where is your page Warren, and why didn't it show up in my searches? ;) I'll follow it from here on out I think... Thanks guys... saved me a lot more fussing! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
Maciej I didn't know if the label would work in loader.conf. This solution suggested by Adam worked and seems much simpler than labeling the filesystem. hint.da.0.at="scbus6" Thanks. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Maciej Milewski wrote: > vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/label/bigdisk in loader.conf doesn't work? > > I think that worked with stock FreeBSD loader. > > > > Maciej ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VBox network boot
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Carl Johnson wrote: Warren Block writes: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting in VBox on FBSD host? To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type. If the host is FreeBSD, the vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded. Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary. Updated in the PXE article, thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
Dnia wtorek, 28 lutego 2012 13:08:04 bsali...@gmail.com pisze: > Thanks, > > I got the part where you can label the partitions but the loader > doesn't look at labels. Loader looks at ufs:/dev/da0 > > So how can this be resolved at "boot" time (not mount time). > > Thanks. vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/label/bigdisk in loader.conf doesn't work? I think that worked with stock FreeBSD loader. Maciej ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
Adam, This worked like a charm :-) I found that my umass-sim0 is at scbus6 and added following lines in loader.conf hint.scbus.6.bus="umass-sim0" hint.da.0.at="scbus6" hint.da.0.target="0" hint.da.0.unit="0" Thanks a lot. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > Add to /boot/loader.conf and adjust to your needs: > > hint.scbus.0.at="da0" > hint.scbus.0.bus="0" > hint.da.0.at="scbus0" > hint.da.0.target="0" > hint.da.0.unit="0" > hint.scbus.1.bus="umass-sim0" > hint.da.1.at="scbus1" > hint.da.1.target="0" > hint.da.1.unit="0" > > > -- > Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM, bsali...@gmail.com wrote: > The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of > the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at > next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that > is not present. > > How to solve this issue? > Add to /boot/loader.conf and adjust to your needs: hint.scbus.0.at="da0" hint.scbus.0.bus="0" hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="0" hint.da.0.unit="0" hint.scbus.1.bus="umass-sim0" hint.da.1.at="scbus1" hint.da.1.target="0" hint.da.1.unit="0" -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
Thanks, I got the part where you can label the partitions but the loader doesn't look at labels. Loader looks at ufs:/dev/da0 So how can this be resolved at "boot" time (not mount time). Thanks. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > Label the drives and use labels instead of device names. > > Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Webcam Selection
Hi all, After a number of years just lying in desk drawer my old Logitech spherical webcam died. So, I'm looking for a new one. It's not that I use it a lot. My wife will be heading out of province to our son's place next month to be there for the birth of our first grandson. The plan was to use a webcam to send back pictures later (not on the day of, of course but a week later). Anyhow I need to replace the old with a new webcam. The last time I used the old webcam it was hooked up to a Windows XP system. I've since retired that machine, along with the retirement of three FreeBSD machines, leaving me with a few servers and my FreeBSD laptop. I'm hoping to use the webcam with Pidgin with MSN. Can anyone suggest a brand and model? It needs to have good image quality and needs to work with FreeBSD 9.0. Any suggestions? -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DTrace userland
Here's another way to cause a kernel panic: [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo kldload dtraceall [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ cat -n test.c 1 #include 2 3 int main() 4 { 5sleep(15); 6 7FILE *fp = fopen("hello.txt", "w"); 8fprintf(fp, "Here I am at %s:%d.\n", __FILE__, __LINE__); 9fclose(fp); 10 } [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ gcc test.c -o test [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:test:main:entry' -c ./test dtrace: description 'pid$target:test:main:entry' matched 1 probe dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME 0 43030 main:entry (Kernel panic! After reboot) [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ cat hello.txt Here I am at test.c:8. Interestingly, the crash doesn't occur until after the sleep and the fprintf call, so it looks the kernel panic happens as a result of the traced process _exiting_... Marc On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Marc Abramowitz wrote: > Another strange behavior: > > [Tab 1] > $ /bin/sleep 300 & > [1] 1806 > > [Tab 2] > $ sudo dtrace -n 'pid1806:sleep::entry' > $ echo $? > 158 > > [Tab 1] > [1]+ Killed: 9 /bin/sleep 300 > > Something seems very wrong that DTrace is killing processes and causing > kernel panics. > > Marc > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Marc Abramowitz wrote: > >> I'm using FreeBSD 9.0 on amd64 in VMware Fusion and trying to DTrace >> userland programs. I think I must be doing something wrong. >> >> I recompiled my kernel and world, following the instructions at >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace and I've read >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace/userland: >> >> The test.c pid provider example worked fine for me: >> >> $ sudo dtrace -s pid.d -c ./test >> dtrace: script 'pid.d' matched 2 probes >> dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m >> CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME >> 0 43030 main:entry >> 0 43031 sleep:entry >> 0 43031 sleep:entry >> 0 43031 sleep:entry >> >> As does a simple probe of test.c specified with the -n option: >> >> [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:test:main:entry' -c >> ./test >> dtrace: description 'pid$target:test:main:entry' matched 1 probe >> dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m >> CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME >> 0 43030 main:entry >> >> When I start trying to dtrace other programs, things don't go so well... >> >> $ sudo dtrace -n ":::entry" -c /usr/local/bin/python >> Python 2.4.5 (#2, Dec 5 2011, 15:19:09) >> [GCC 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD]] on freebsd9 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >> >>> import os >> >>> os.getpid() >> 1603 >> >>> >> dtrace: failed to control pid 1603: process exited with status 0 >> >> $ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:::entry' -c '/bin/cat hello_world.txt' >> dtrace: description 'pid$target:::entry' matched 3315 probes >> dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m >> CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME >> 0 43448 _rtld_bind:entry >> 0 43903 rlock_acquire:entry >> 0 43125def_thread_set_flag:entry >> (Had to hit Ctrl-C to exit; it never displayed hello_world.txt to stdout) >> >> [marca@freebsd9-0 /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils]$ sudo make install >> ... >> [marca@freebsd9-0 /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils]$ sudo dtrace -n >> 'pid$target:::entry' -c '/usr/local/bin/gcat config.log' >> dtrace: description 'pid$target:::entry' matched 3823 probes >> dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m >> CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME >> 0 43524 _rtld_bind:entry >> 0 43979 rlock_acquire:entry >> 0 43201def_thread_set_flag:entry >> ^C >> >> $ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:cat:main:entry' -c '/bin/cat hello_world.txt' >> causes a kernel panic. >> According to the core.txt file, it was a "Fatal trap 10: trace trap while >> in kernel mode" and here's the KDB backtrace: >> >> KDB: stack backtrace: >> #0 0x8089025e at kdb_backtrace+0x5e >> #1 0x80858ce7 at panic+0x187 >> #2 0x80b4bf20 at trap_fatal+0x290 >> #3 0x80b4c540 at trap+0x180 >> #4 0x80b36963 at calltrap+0x8 >> #5 0x8162583d at dtrace_assfail+0x2d >> #6 0x8188aa2e at fasttrap_provider_free+0x1de >> #7 0x8188ad13 at fasttrap_pid_cleanup_cb+0x1c3 >> #8 0x8086dfa1 at softclock+0x3a1 >> #9 0x8082d724 at intr_event_execute_handlers+0x104 >> #10 0x8082eee4 at ithread_loop+0xa4 >> #11 0x8082a34f at fork_exit+0x11f >> #12 0x80b36e8e at fork_trampoline+0xe >> >> [marca@freebsd9-0 /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils]$ sudo dtrace -n >> 'pid$target:gcat::entry' -c '/usr/local/bin/gcat config.log' >> (Another kernel panic) >> >> I can provide full crash dumps if necessary. >> >> Any idea what's going on here? >> >> Cheers, >> Marc >> >> >> >> > ___
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
On Feb 28, 2012 4:13 AM, "Erich Dollansky" wrote: > > Hi, > > I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene. > > But for technical reasons, I have left one machine on 7 after the upgrade from 6 to 8 failed. It is a very old machine and some hardware support got dropped. > > Erich > > On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:03:45 Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote: > > >> uname -a > > > FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30 > > > 15:23:56 CST 2011 > > > r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 > > > > > > I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well. > > > > > > > > > Any suggestion is appreciated! > > > > > > > This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer. > > > > For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the > > lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long > > time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE. > > > > You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether > > they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28) > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" 10.0-CURRENT works pretty good for me, i'm running it on an intel 32 machine and an amd64 machine. i have some servers running 7, i totally skipped 8 and tried 9 for a couple of months. but i wanted better wireless hardware support so i started pulling cvs head. For kicks i'm merging updated gnu and gpl software (that's been frozen since GPLv3 hit) into 10 src (ie /usr/src/gnu and /usr/src/contrib) just to see what kind of trouble it will cause. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
Le Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:52:32 -0800 (PST), sw2wolf a écrit : Hello, > I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well. If it works don't break it :) I don't use 9.0 on production server, but as far I can see on my desktops (at home and at work) that works fine (with USF2 journal and ZFS). This is the first step for me. Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
User disappeared during update error
I did a upgrade to FreeBSD 9 a few weeks ago and just started using it, and when I try and create a new user, I get the follow: pw: user 'todd' disappeared during update adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (todd). I first noticed this issue when trying to install postfix and got a similar error. Anyone know what this is or how to fix it without a complete re-install? Ron ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
tar --exclude not working
Hello, Ran into a weird issue where the 'exclude' pattern to tar isn't matching correctly: pkbsd:$find ./ ./ ./file ./dir1 ./dir1/file ./dir2 ./dir2/file This is expected: pkbsd:$tar Jcvf /tmp/tar.test ./ a . a ./file a ./dir1 a ./dir2 a ./dir2/file a ./dir1/file This is correct: pkbsd:$tar --exclude './dir2/file' -Jcvf /tmp/tar.test ./ a . a ./file a ./dir1 a ./dir2 a ./dir1/file Here I want to _only_ exlude './file', NOT ./dir?/file pkbsd:$tar --exclude './file' -Jcvf /tmp/tar.test ./ a . a ./dir1 a ./dir2 Anyway to exclude just './file' ? If I specify full path, it works as expected: pkbsd:$tar --exclude "home/peter/t/blah/file" -Jcvf /tmp/tar.test /home/peter/t/blah tar: Removing leading '/' from member names a home/peter/t/blah a home/peter/t/blah/dir1 a home/peter/t/blah/dir2 a home/peter/t/blah/dir2/file a home/peter/t/blah/dir1/file Why not relative './file' ? ['\./file' also does not work]. ]Peter[ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VBox network boot
Warren Block writes: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: > >> I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, >> bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for >> network booting in VBox on FBSD host? > > To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the > PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type. If the host is FreeBSD, the > vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded. Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary. I was trying the Intel emulation and making no progress. I then noticed your page and tried the PCnet-PCI II card and it started working. I would guess that means their Intel card emulation is incomplete. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Matthew Seaman spaketh thusly: -} -}Yes. That's the generally accepted meaning of the concept of a 'hot -}spare.' The fact that the spare hasn't been automatically bought -}on-line in this case is a bug. There's an open PR on the subject: -} -}http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/134491 Tnx for the pointer! -} -}That seems to suggest the problem was known to be solved at some point -}in 2011, but it was not necessarily propagated to all stable branches. -}However, given your experience perhaps that is not the case. Yeah, current kernel src's (8.2-STABLE) were sup'd and rebuilt Dec 22. -} -}You should be able to use zfs commands manually to sub-in the spare -}drive and get it resilvered. -} -}As an aside -- you've got a pretty odd setup there: 41 drives all in one -}big RAIDZ2 vdev? Standard practice would be to create something like 5 -}RAIDZ2 vdevs of 8 drives each (Or maybe 6 vdevs of 7 drives apiece: 6--9 -}drives is about the sweet spot for a RAIDZ2) and then stripe those vdevs -}together to create your zpool. We looked at doing things this way, especially since it give much better performance. However, performance was less important than maximizing storage. Over the last 9 weeks we are averaging (including nighly backups): capacity operationsbandwidth poolalloc free read write read write -- - - - - - - data1.41T 8.34T 47 29 2.82M 1.31M raidz21.41T 8.34T 47 27 2.82M 1.17M da2 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da3 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da4 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da5 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da6 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da7 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da9 - - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da10- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da11- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da12- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da13- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da14- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da15- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da17- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da18- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da19- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da20- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da21- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da22- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da23- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da25- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da26- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da27- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da28- - 20 2 69.4K 30.1K da29- - 20 2 69.2K 30.1K da30- - 20 2 67.6K 29.9K da31- - 20 2 69.2K 30.1K da32- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da33- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da34- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da35- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da36- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da37- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da38- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da39- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da40- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da41- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da42- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da43- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da44- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da45- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da46- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K da47- - 20 2 69.3K 30.1K -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:41:29 -0800, bsali...@gmail.com wrote: > The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of > the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at > next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that > is not present. > > How to solve this issue? Label the drives and use labels instead of device names. Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Simple question about pkg_add ...
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:52:13 +1030, David Walker wrote: > Hey. > > I believe I have a pcmcia card that requires upgt firmware. > From upgt(4) ... > > This driver requires the upgtfw firmware to be installed before it will > work. The firmware files are not publicly available. A package of the > firmware which can be installed via pkg_add(1) is available: > > http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz > > pkg_add http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz > Fetching http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz... > Done. > pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package? Did you have a look at what's inside the .tar.gz file? A directory upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0 with the following files: Makefile, distinfo, pkg-descr, and pkg-plist. Obviously, that's not a binary package for pkg_add use. It's a port. Extract the file and use it with the port infrastructure (i. e. "make install"). Seems that the instruction in "man 4 upgt" is just missing the proper terminology... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare
On 28/02/2012 15:21, Randy Schultz wrote: > Got a zpool that lost a drive: >Feb 24 20:46:01 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): lost device >Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): Synchronize cache > failed, status == 0xa, scsi status == >0x0 >Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): removing device entry > > however the spare never came online: > zpool status -v > pool: data > state: DEGRADED >status: One or more devices has been removed by the administrator. >Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue > functioning in a >degraded state. >action: Online the device using 'zpool online' or replace the device > with >'zpool replace'. > scan: resilvered 0 in 0h2m with 0 errors on Tue Oct 25 13:40:59 2011 >config: > >NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM >dataDEGRADED 0 0 0 > raidz2-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 >da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da3 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da4 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da5 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da6 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da7 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da9 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da10ONLINE 0 0 0 >da11ONLINE 0 0 0 >da12ONLINE 0 0 0 >da13ONLINE 0 0 0 >da14ONLINE 0 0 0 >da15ONLINE 0 0 0 >da17ONLINE 0 0 0 >da18ONLINE 0 0 0 >da19ONLINE 0 0 0 >da20ONLINE 0 0 0 >da21ONLINE 0 0 0 >da22ONLINE 0 0 0 >da23ONLINE 0 0 0 >da25ONLINE 0 0 0 >da26ONLINE 0 0 0 >da27ONLINE 0 0 0 >da28ONLINE 0 0 0 >da29ONLINE 0 0 0 >da30REMOVED 0 0 0 >da31ONLINE 0 0 0 >da32ONLINE 0 0 0 >da33ONLINE 0 0 0 >da34ONLINE 0 0 0 >da35ONLINE 0 0 0 >da36ONLINE 0 0 0 >da37ONLINE 0 0 0 >da38ONLINE 0 0 0 >da39ONLINE 0 0 0 >da40ONLINE 0 0 0 >da41ONLINE 0 0 0 >da42ONLINE 0 0 0 >da43ONLINE 0 0 0 >da44ONLINE 0 0 0 >da45ONLINE 0 0 0 >da46ONLINE 0 0 0 >da47ONLINE 0 0 0 >logs > mirror-1 ONLINE 0 0 0 >da24ONLINE 0 0 0 >da16ONLINE 0 0 0 >spares > da1 AVAIL > > I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered > automatically. Did I miss some config thing > or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works? Yes. That's the generally accepted meaning of the concept of a 'hot spare.' The fact that the spare hasn't been automatically bought on-line in this case is a bug. There's an open PR on the subject: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/134491 That seems to suggest the problem was known to be solved at some point in 2011, but it was not necessarily propagated to all stable branches. However, given your experience perhaps that is not the case. You should be able to use zfs commands manually to sub-in the spare drive and get it resilvered. As an aside -- you've got a pretty odd setup there: 41 drives all in one big RAIDZ2 vdev? Standard practice would be to create something like 5 RAIDZ2 vdevs of 8 drives each (Or maybe 6 vdevs of 7 drives apiece: 6--9 drives is about the sweet spot for a RAIDZ2) and then stripe those vdevs together to create your zpool. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBsd Beginner
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:13:41 +0530, shanib.k.k wrote: > As am entirely fresh to FreeBSD i would like to know more about > how can configure or install it. The basic documentation on how to install and configure the system can be found in The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ available from the main web site of the project. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/ Also PC-BSD is worth checking out. If you come from a "Windows" background and have experiences with Ubuntu Linux, this should look and feel familiar. http://www.pcbsd.org/ But as a developer, you should not have _any_ problems getting started with a pure FreeBSD installation that will then fit your requirements (e. g. a development environment workstation, a test server, or a mixed form of both). > Am using Windows OS in my personal system.How can i install FreeBSD in > my local system and do a try before configuring in main server directly... You can use the typical means of virtualization that are possible inside a "Windows" installation. Emulate "a full PC" and install the system to it. For easily trying out a configured system I recommend having a look at VirtualBSD. http://www.virtualbsd.info/ It can easily be used without installation in a VirtualBox environment which should even be possible in "Windows". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VBox network boot
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting in VBox on FBSD host? To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type. If the host is FreeBSD, the vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Randy Schultz spaketh thusly: -} -}I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered -}automatically. Did I miss some config thing -}or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works? Gah. Forgot to check the beasty forums (tnx Mark for the gentle poke). For any others not aware, the docs all say the spare is hot, but this is not accurate. See http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2012-January/013428.html Heh, shows how much I've been paying attention - I didn't even realize there was a freebsd-fs list. "But I'm feeling much better now". ;> -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: fixating USB Storage
The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that is not present. How to solve this issue? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
zpool not grabbing hot spare
Howdy howdy, Got a zpool that lost a drive: Feb 24 20:46:01 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): lost device Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0xa, scsi status == 0x0 Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): removing device entry however the spare never came online: zpool status -v pool: data state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices has been removed by the administrator. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning in a degraded state. action: Online the device using 'zpool online' or replace the device with 'zpool replace'. scan: resilvered 0 in 0h2m with 0 errors on Tue Oct 25 13:40:59 2011 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM dataDEGRADED 0 0 0 raidz2-0 DEGRADED 0 0 0 da2 ONLINE 0 0 0 da3 ONLINE 0 0 0 da4 ONLINE 0 0 0 da5 ONLINE 0 0 0 da6 ONLINE 0 0 0 da7 ONLINE 0 0 0 da9 ONLINE 0 0 0 da10ONLINE 0 0 0 da11ONLINE 0 0 0 da12ONLINE 0 0 0 da13ONLINE 0 0 0 da14ONLINE 0 0 0 da15ONLINE 0 0 0 da17ONLINE 0 0 0 da18ONLINE 0 0 0 da19ONLINE 0 0 0 da20ONLINE 0 0 0 da21ONLINE 0 0 0 da22ONLINE 0 0 0 da23ONLINE 0 0 0 da25ONLINE 0 0 0 da26ONLINE 0 0 0 da27ONLINE 0 0 0 da28ONLINE 0 0 0 da29ONLINE 0 0 0 da30REMOVED 0 0 0 da31ONLINE 0 0 0 da32ONLINE 0 0 0 da33ONLINE 0 0 0 da34ONLINE 0 0 0 da35ONLINE 0 0 0 da36ONLINE 0 0 0 da37ONLINE 0 0 0 da38ONLINE 0 0 0 da39ONLINE 0 0 0 da40ONLINE 0 0 0 da41ONLINE 0 0 0 da42ONLINE 0 0 0 da43ONLINE 0 0 0 da44ONLINE 0 0 0 da45ONLINE 0 0 0 da46ONLINE 0 0 0 da47ONLINE 0 0 0 logs mirror-1 ONLINE 0 0 0 da24ONLINE 0 0 0 da16ONLINE 0 0 0 spares da1 AVAIL I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered automatically. Did I miss some config thing or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works? -- Randy(schu...@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> nosce te ipsum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Simple question about pkg_add ...
Hey. I believe I have a pcmcia card that requires upgt firmware. >From upgt(4) ... This driver requires the upgtfw firmware to be installed before it will work. The firmware files are not publicly available. A package of the firmware which can be installed via pkg_add(1) is available: http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz pkg_add http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz Fetching http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz... Done. pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package? Best wishes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:52:24 +0100 Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 2/28/12 2:14 PM, Stas Verberkt wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the > >> even branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the > >> machine here runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will > >> arrive at the scene. > >> > > Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an > > uneven branch? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Stas Verberkt > > > > To be honest, there shouldn't be. > > There's an old saying that goes along the lines of "uneven are > unstable/experimental" but recent comments on the ML have claimed > otherwise. That's a Linux thing surely. I've never seen it claimed for FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
On 28/02/2012 13:14, Stas Verberkt wrote: > Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven > branch? No. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
On 2/28/12 2:14 PM, Stas Verberkt wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even >> branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here >> runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene. >> > Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven > branch? > > Kind regards, > > Stas Verberkt > To be honest, there shouldn't be. There's an old saying that goes along the lines of "uneven are unstable/experimental" but recent comments on the ML have claimed otherwise. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even > branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here > runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene. > Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven branch? Kind regards, Stas Verberkt pgpOq0xngef3F.pgp Description: PGP signature
VBox network boot
I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting in VBox on FBSD host? I _was_ considering it for some tests I was running... :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Jerome Herman wrote: > On 28/02/2012 12:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > >>On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 + > >>Anton Shterenlikht articulated: > >> > >>>On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >I'm putting together a small presentation > >about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. > > > >Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? > > > >The info here is a bit out of date: > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html > Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x > column. > >>>Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table. > >>> > >>>Still, I don't get an idea from the table of > >>>how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance. > >>>I guess that's the aim, isn't it? > >>The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple > >>indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option > >>of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and > >>including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group > >>or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more > >>impressive I'll leave up to you. > >sorry to be a pain. > > > >Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete? > > > >Does the above page include all tasks > >that need to be completed? In other words, > >if all tasks on the above page are ticked, > >does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance, > >or is it not that simple? > > > It is not that simple, POSIX is more a set of norms than a norm by > itself. There are Posix aspects that are not in FreeBSD and probably > never will be, other aspects that do exist in FreeBSD but you should > definitly not use them as they are painfull to use or flawed or both > (Posix capabilities for exemple). Also there are systems that do support > a fair part of Posix, but which are just a pain to use in a Posix > compatible environment, basically requiring you to code quite a lot of > tools to have a Posix environment. Basically Windows Server supports > quite a good deal of Posix norms, and it works well for small projects > or simple programs, but if you want to create a Posix compliant > distributed datastore you are in for a hell of a ride. Linux is becoming > basically the same, in that more and more core system tools have > dependencies on Linux specific API. (And I won't talk about MacOS X) > A good way of making a presentation would be to first look at what > aspects of Posix you need and try to find out where these aspect are > best supported. > Now a simple and true enough answer would be to say that FreeBSD has one > of the broader _and most usable_ Posix support, second only to Solaris. > (Way better than AIX and on par with HP-UX in my humble opinion). It is > mostly true in the sense that FreeBSD does support quite a lot of Posix > norms including the latest ones. It is false int the sense that AIX, > HP-UX IRIX and quite alot of others have a 100% certified compliance for > some (quite old now) Posix norms. CF : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#BSD_descendants > > At one point FreeBSD was very close to be fully Posix compliant with > norm 1.e, then norm 1.e was more or less thrown out the windows, and > posix norming system pretty much imploded at this time. > > So basically it is quite hard to answer without first knowing exactly > why you need Posix compliance. It is also worth noting that porting an > application from one fully compliant OS to another is not always easier > than porting from that OS to a non compliant one. Quite a lot of > problems can arise in slightly different interpretations of the norm, > and quite a lot of assumption that are correct under one system will > require carefull tweaking and lib binding in another. > Another thing that is worth noting is that Posix norming system is > dying, I do not know of one system that has compliance above UNIX03, a > norm written in 2001... A very helpful reply, thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On 28/02/2012 12:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 + Anton Shterenlikht articulated: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm putting together a small presentation about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? The info here is a bit out of date: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x column. Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table. Still, I don't get an idea from the table of how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance. I guess that's the aim, isn't it? The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more impressive I'll leave up to you. sorry to be a pain. Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete? Does the above page include all tasks that need to be completed? In other words, if all tasks on the above page are ticked, does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance, or is it not that simple? It is not that simple, POSIX is more a set of norms than a norm by itself. There are Posix aspects that are not in FreeBSD and probably never will be, other aspects that do exist in FreeBSD but you should definitly not use them as they are painfull to use or flawed or both (Posix capabilities for exemple). Also there are systems that do support a fair part of Posix, but which are just a pain to use in a Posix compatible environment, basically requiring you to code quite a lot of tools to have a Posix environment. Basically Windows Server supports quite a good deal of Posix norms, and it works well for small projects or simple programs, but if you want to create a Posix compliant distributed datastore you are in for a hell of a ride. Linux is becoming basically the same, in that more and more core system tools have dependencies on Linux specific API. (And I won't talk about MacOS X) A good way of making a presentation would be to first look at what aspects of Posix you need and try to find out where these aspect are best supported. Now a simple and true enough answer would be to say that FreeBSD has one of the broader _and most usable_ Posix support, second only to Solaris. (Way better than AIX and on par with HP-UX in my humble opinion). It is mostly true in the sense that FreeBSD does support quite a lot of Posix norms including the latest ones. It is false int the sense that AIX, HP-UX IRIX and quite alot of others have a 100% certified compliance for some (quite old now) Posix norms. CF : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#BSD_descendants At one point FreeBSD was very close to be fully Posix compliant with norm 1.e, then norm 1.e was more or less thrown out the windows, and posix norming system pretty much imploded at this time. So basically it is quite hard to answer without first knowing exactly why you need Posix compliance. It is also worth noting that porting an application from one fully compliant OS to another is not always easier than porting from that OS to a non compliant one. Quite a lot of problems can arise in slightly different interpretations of the norm, and quite a lot of assumption that are correct under one system will require carefull tweaking and lib binding in another. Another thing that is worth noting is that Posix norming system is dying, I do not know of one system that has compliance above UNIX03, a norm written in 2001... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBsd Beginner
On 28/02/2012 05:43, shanib.k.k wrote: > Hi am a Ruby on rails developer. I have done a project in ROR and > currently its hosted in Ubuntu.Now the requires it to be changed to > FreeBSD. As am entirely fresh to FreeBSD i would like to know more about > how can configure or install it. The best place to start is by reading the Handbook. Here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ One thing that may surprise you is that FreeBSD itself is just the OS kernel, the core libraries and a number of command-line utilities. If you want a windowing system, then you'll need to install one from ports. Similarly, you'll need to install Ruby and all the other gubbins to make your RoR applications work, but the ports makes that pretty easy. Alternatively, you might find PC-BSD easier to get along with. This is a fully featured desktop system built around FreeBSD but with all the usual sort of desktop applications already included. Get it here: http://www.pcbsd.org/ As it's FreeBSD underneath, it makes a good system to learn about FreeBSD before setting up a pure FreeBSD server. > Am using Windows OS in my personal system.How can i install FreeBSD in > my local system and do a try before configuring in main server directly... You can install FreeBSD as a guest OS in a virtualization system quite readily. It works pretty well with most VMs -- VirtualBox is known to work well, and it's free but whatever you're used to should be fine. Alternatively you can download a DVD or USB MemStick image, and boot from that as a live-system without trashing whatever you already have installed. If you can free up a disk, or a partition (about 5GB is the absolute minimum needed for a useful system, but more is better), then you can install FreeBSD there and make your machine dual boot. Or you can just blow away whatever is on the machine already and start from ground-zero with nothing but FreeBSD. I wouldn't recommend this unless you are quite well versed in FreeBSD already, as otherwise you'll find it quite frustrating before you learn the ropes, and your productivity will nosedive as you do that... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
Hi, I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene. But for technical reasons, I have left one machine on 7 after the upgrade from 6 to 8 failed. It is a very old machine and some hardware support got dropped. Erich On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:03:45 Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote: > >> uname -a > > FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30 > > 15:23:56 CST 2011 > > r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 > > > > I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well. > > > > > > Any suggestion is appreciated! > > > > This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer. > > For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the > lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long > time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE. > > You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether > they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28) > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On 28 Feb 2012, at 11:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > sorry to be a pain. > > Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete? Depending on how you weight the various items of POSIX compliance, a finger-in-the-air guess would be around 90%, but I think only the -hackers list can give you a good answer. It's probably instructive to compare to various other OSes level of compliance as well (for your presentation). - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBsd Beginner
HI, Hi am a Ruby on rails developer. I have done a project in ROR and currently its hosted in Ubuntu.Now the requires it to be changed to FreeBSD. As am entirely fresh to FreeBSD i would like to know more about how can configure or install it. Am using Windows OS in my personal system.How can i install FreeBSD in my local system and do a try before configuring in main server directly... Expecting Your Response Shanib.k.k ROR Developer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On 02/28/12 21:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 + Anton Shterenlikht articulated: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm putting together a small presentation about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? The info here is a bit out of date: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x column. Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table. Still, I don't get an idea from the table of how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance. I guess that's the aim, isn't it? The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more impressive I'll leave up to you. sorry to be a pain. Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete? Does the above page include all tasks that need to be completed? In other words, if all tasks on the above page are ticked, does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance, or is it not that simple? As I understand it, the ticks stand for completed. There are other measures on there that say 1/2, or not started, or unable to until another is completed. The legend is closer to the bottom of the page. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 + > Anton Shterenlikht articulated: > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > >I'm putting together a small presentation > > > >about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. > > > > > > > >Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? > > > > > > > >The info here is a bit out of date: > > > > > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html > > > Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x > > > column. > > > > Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table. > > > > Still, I don't get an idea from the table of > > how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance. > > I guess that's the aim, isn't it? > > The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple > indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option > of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and > including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group > or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more > impressive I'll leave up to you. sorry to be a pain. Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete? Does the above page include all tasks that need to be completed? In other words, if all tasks on the above page are ticked, does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance, or is it not that simple? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 + Anton Shterenlikht articulated: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > >I'm putting together a small presentation > > >about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. > > > > > >Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? > > > > > >The info here is a bit out of date: > > > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html > > Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x > > column. > > Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table. > > Still, I don't get an idea from the table of > how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance. > I guess that's the aim, isn't it? The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more impressive I'll leave up to you. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >I'm putting together a small presentation > >about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. > > > >Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? > > > >The info here is a bit out of date: > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html > Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x column. Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table. Still, I don't get an idea from the table of how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance. I guess that's the aim, isn't it? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: posix compliance
On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm putting together a small presentation about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? The info here is a bit out of date: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x column. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
posix compliance
I'm putting together a small presentation about FreeBSD for our IT support staff. Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially? The info here is a bit out of date: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: "find" not traversing all directories on a single zfs file system
On 28/02/2012 02:21, Robert Banfield wrote: > I have some additional information that I didnt see before actually > digging into the log file. It is quite interesting. There are 82,206 > subdirectories in one of the folders. Like this: > > /zfs_mount/directoryA/token[1-82206]/various_tileset_files > > When looking at the output of find, here is what I see: > > Lines 1-9996943: The output of find, good as good can be > Lines 9996944-10062479: Subdirectory entries only, it traversed none of > them. > > Notice 10062479-9996944+1 = 65536 = 2^16 > > So, of the 82206 subdirectories, the first 82206-2^16 were traversed, > and the final 2^16 were not. The plot thickens... Now this is very interesting indeed. 80,000 subdirectories is quite a lot.. As is a grand total of more than 10,000,000 files. Hmmm... and you see the find problem just when searching within the structure under directoryA? I think you have found a bug, although whether it is in find(1), the filesystem or elsewhere is not clear. Given that 'ls -R' shows the same problem, the bug could be in fts(3). Still, that's a testable hypothesis. Let me see if I can reproduce the problem. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Delete files let FreeBSD crashes.
On 2/28/12 8:11 AM, netroby wrote: > i installed freebsd 9 on virtualbox, when i try to delete a directory > with following command: > > rm -rf ./zf2 > > the system will halt , then restart. > > i had using fsck -y to check the filesystem, but seems not work. > > following the output: > *** HALT *** You're not running fsck on a MOUNTED device are you ? If you are, kindly stop doing so to prevent damage to your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?
On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote: >> uname -a > FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30 > 15:23:56 CST 2011 > r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 > > I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well. > > > Any suggestion is appreciated! > This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer. For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE. You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"