Re: Playing audio CDs
*snipped for polite cleanliness* Thanks to everyone who took the time to help me out here. I think instead of playing CDs I'll just rip them, it seems a WHOLE lot easier, and of course, not having to worry about scratches is a plus ;) I think one MAJOR problem I had yesterday when I was doing all this, was that I had been awake for about 27 hours...Which is more than most Windows boxes. I was trying to remember how to configure hardware because I'm basically spoiled by easy to configure OSs like BSD and Linux, that I literally couldn't remember how to configure stuff. I think you guys can agree to that. Back in like 2000 even, which wasn't THAT long ago, I know for a fact Windows and Linux were both very different, and this wasFreeBSD 4.0? 2000 is a little spacial, it's when I bought my very first FreeBSD PowerPak with FreeBSD 4.0 on CD, the 6 CD set of tools and things, and came with The Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition. Which I still read. Lehey is a great book writer. I think one problem also, is the sheer number of albums I have. I ahve a LOT of CDs, and almost all of them currently have been ripped, and I keep two HDs in my Slackware FTP server (Which may be reinstalled with FreeBSD, which is one reason I was testing how I'd do certain things in BSD) and I have over 30 GBs of music in there. Some albums that are important to me, like my Misfits boxed set, Ramones Discography, and rare Acid Bath Demo stuff, and my complete set of Danzig work (All Misfits, Samhain boxed set, + all Danzig CDs) I have all ripped as both oggVorbis, 128 K MP3s, and 320 K MP3s (I use 128 for my I-Pod because I have a 1 GB model, can't afford the big ones) and 320 I use for my play lists on the computer so I get good sound, and oggorbis was because a while back Linux distros like SUSE couldn't give you MP3 from out of the box, because of the license thing, so I kept ogg for that. It's something that took a LONG time to do and I'll probably just continue on with ripping the rest of my CD collection and putting it all on my FTP server so that each machine I have can play music without all of them losing disk space. Thanks again everyone! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Strange and weird, probably simple, aim DL
Hi list, I was doing some searching on the FreeBSD FTP server where the ports are installed, and I noticed AIM was available. I use AIM and so I did this: pkg_add -r aim It downloaded the package, finished up, and it was done. Here is the thing; I can't run it. When I type aim from a terminal, or basic Xterm, it says it can't be found. If I try running it from a run dialog it won't run from there either. am I doing something incredibly stupid? I know it downloaded the package and installed it, so it should work fine. I downloaded it on another machine just to test if it worked on there, both running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE, and again, it just doesn't run. It's odd really. And if I load up a bash, to do command completion like this: bash [Enter} a[TAB][TAB] (Display all?) [y] It doesn't show aim there either. I know that last part is a little bit dumb, but I figured it would at least let me check if it was there. any ideas? Anyone using AIM that got it to work? Thanks much, -Allen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange and weird, probably simple, aim DL
Glen Barber wrote: Akenner said: basic Xterm, it says it can't be found. If I try running it from a run dialog it won't run from there either. Have you `rehash'ed ? Yes I have. I read that whenever installing something new I should do that so it can find new things. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange and weird, probably simple, aim DL
Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net wrote: Glen Barber wrote: Akenner said: basic Xterm, it says it can't be found. If I try running it from a run dialog it won't run from there either. Have you `rehash'ed ? Yes I have. I read that whenever installing something new I should do that so it can find new things. Did that not work? Is the problem still present? What happens if you log out and log in again? Basically it does the same thing. I used the pkg_add as I said, and once I finished, I did the rehash thing, and then logging in and out doesn't seem to change it. Is there a chance the package itself is messy? I was told to try whereis and did so, and it said /usr/ports/net-im/aim and when I typed the direct path, it said permission denied, so I tried su to root, and ran it again, and it said the same thing...Which is a little strange being root. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Playing audio CDs
I've been searching on the net for like an hour trying to see how to play a CD on FreeBSD, and normally I'd have just tried mounting it, being from the Linux world, but when I first checked to be sure of the proper way, I found mostly info saying not to mount it at all. So now I'm not sure what is the right way to do it. On two machines each having between 1 - 3 drives to play CDs from, I've tried just loading a CD player app and hitting play, but it doesn't find the CD, and on one machine there is only one drive so it can't be the wrong one. None of the pages I found said it was OK to mount it, and so I'm a little confused how you play CDs, and I've used cdplay as root to make sure I had access since the one app said I couldn't access the CD drive, and nothing has happened. How is the normal way of playing a regular audio CD in FreeBSD? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Playing audio CDs
I found in the handbook that I could try this: /sbin/mount /cdrom I then saw this: /dev/cd0: device not configured. Apparently typing /sbin first made it give me a different error message, I'm just trying to find hwo to configure a drive now. would /stand/sysinstall work for this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Patching / Updating / Upgrading
*Snipping for those who don't want to have an inbox full of my text, and out of being polite* Thanks very much! I've been thinking about setting up another FreeBSD machine so I can test both CVS and FreeBSD-update without mixing the two together which from what I hear is a bad idea, and I think that would also help me learn both ways of doing it. Thanks again for the help! I think first I'll test out the freebsd-update way of things since, well, that's the closest to what I'm used to and will have a much smaller learning curve if any at all. Ad then I can set up a machine to do it with cvsup. I was really having some trouble understanding what they meant by RELEASE VS STABLE in the context of fixes and so on. The idea of it wasn't new as Slackware uses a very VERY similar method for talking about versions of their stuff, which I guess is a good thing. And my Slackware books used to have BSDi logos on them so I guess it's nice to see a Linux distro and BSD getting along. Patrick seems to be more appreciative of BSD than other Linux distros as it is. (If you read up on Slackware, he flat out tells you to just look for BSD texts because they are more technical and better written than the PR style Linux stuff you generally find) which leads me to believe that Patrick likes BSD quite a bit. Thanks again, -Allen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Patching / Updating / Upgrading
Hello all, I've been using this list to my advantage for a while to learn things I can't seem to grasp, and I've gotten great amounts of help. I have a question in regards to the process of patching / Updating / Upgrading I'd like a hand with. I have two machines running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE and I'd like to make sure I've got security fixes on my test machine. I'm saying test amchine because the box I'm typing this from is an active needed desktop system I'm using for a lot of things right now, and I figured my best bet would be to set up another machine with a similar installation set so I could test out new ideas on that instead of risking breaking something on this one. Anyway, I've been reading up on the CVS idea and asking things about freebsd-update, and I guess my question is more along these lines: If I wanted to just make sure I've got bug fixes and security patches, would CVS or FreeBSD-Update be best for this? Or are they both good for this? I know in the Unix world there are generally a lot of things that do one thing very well but can generally do other things too. I'm reading on CVS right now and it seems I could use this to keep the machine updated, but I'm having some issues understanding the idea of how it works. Basically, if I'm running 7.1-RELEASE, isn't that already the updated version? Or, have I maybe misunderstood something, and the tree RELEASE for 7.1 has bug fixes and security patches added to it, and I could CVSup to the newest release of 7.1 ? Also, FreeBSD-update came across my reading, and it seems to be similar to swaret in the Slackware world. I know it isn't the same thing as BSD seems much more source based than other OSs, but I would like to get at least one of the ways to keep updated picked out, and started using on the test machine to make sure I fully understand it before using it to update my main box. One of the things I did was make two copies of the example CVS standard supfile; one I made in that directory as standard.bak and then I copied a copy of it to the /root directory to look at and maybe edit as well, but as I said, I could use a hand in deciding which option is going to work best. So if anyone could lend a little but in typing out what they use for updates and how they go about it, I'd appreciate it. I've already gotten a full CVSup file sent to me by a member on here which was a great help in deciding how to set up the file. I'm more or less wondering with CVSup if I keep using RELEASE or do I use Stable. And of course if anyone uses freebsd-update if they have suggestions I'd love to hear those as well :) -Allen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE]]
*snipped* OK, so right now I've been reading this, and I had a look at the configuration file for FreeBSD-update, and it seems I could use that to test it out since I haven't really used it before, by basically running it with -r RELEASE and it would upgrade everything to that? also being from the Linux world, I'm having a slight bit of trouble understanding one part, which is what upgrades mean in BSD VS Linux. For example, on my Slackware boxes, I can do this to update / upgrade when a security problem is found and patched: upgradepkg name-of-package-slack12.tgz and it upgrades it. On here they have a different meaning though I THINK... I'm not positive yet if I'm understanding this right, or if I've gotten confused. I'm not giving up because I'm really enjoying how FreeBSD works, and always have loved it, and this time I've decided to take the time to learn how to run it properly, which is why the last two weeks, I've spent most of my time using it, asking questions on here, and reading my library of books on BSD, and reading the BSD web site in the handbook area so to not ask questions I can find easy. So, am I confusing these terms with how they work? Or..? Really I just want to make sure I have the security patches installed by running something I could maybe add to cron later, or make a very simple perl script, but if that isn't the best solution, at least I'd like to have security patches installed and have my machine up to date as much as possible with fixes. So, for making sure my machine is updated with the latest security patches and bug fixes, would CVS maybe be better, or FreeBSD-update? Or both? Also if I'm not getting annoying yet, which I may very well be heh, when it asks for RELEASE in FreeBSD-update, I know that STABLE is the stable and trusted one, and RELEASE is the latest one but is tested enough to be used, and then the bleeding edge one you shouldn't use Which would one pick who wanted to keep updated to do this with and not be totally insane? Thanks all, and apologies on length / number of questions. I'm just tryign to understand how it works so I can take some notes and remember for myself how it works without breaking it/ ---BeginMessage--- Akenner wrote: Hi, I've continued reading to keep myself updated with info used, and I have a few questions about what I've seen about freebsd-update: I've read not to use FreeBSD-update AND cvsup together, and so I've decided to go along with this as to not cause problems for myself. Does FreeBSD-update have any benefit over the cvsup method? I've heard you don't have to go single user and a few other things, but does it have any actual benefit? Thanks, -Allen You don't have to recompile anything (can be lengthy esp. on older machines), the mergemaster step is usually a lot simpler and less tedious. Very useful for people tracking RELEASE and the security branch. You still need csup / cvsup to track STABLE or CURRENT though. ---End Message--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[Fwd: Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE]
Hi, I've continued reading to keep myself updated with info used, and I have a few questions about what I've seen about freebsd-update: I've read not to use FreeBSD-update AND cvsup together, and so I've decided to go along with this as to not cause problems for myself. Does FreeBSD-update have any benefit over the cvsup method? I've heard you don't have to go single user and a few other things, but does it have any actual benefit? Thanks, -Allen ---BeginMessage--- Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hi all, On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 07:34, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: Akenner wrote: RW wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, it wanted like 30,000 updates and was taking forever. It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system update problems are using freebsd-update. ___ This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your CVS and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that has exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble finding it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I wanted to get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. Thanks csup -g -L 1 -h cvs#.cc.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile i.e: cvs17.us.freebsd.org This will update to your uname -r latest patchlevel. Copy and replace (for you): RELENG_7_0 with RELENG_7_1 to get the latest patchlevel for 7.1 Original doc seems either replaced by the freebsd-update method (while excellent, there are a few things that CVS really triumphs on). csup is part of base. I'd be glad to help you through. The canonical update method is still listed in the handbook (SS. 24.7.1) used after retrieving the sources. Thank you Tim for the answers! So far I have used freebsd-update to apply updates. I seem to recall that it is never good to mix the two systems (freebsd-updates and csup) to avoid trouble. Is that true? Also, the documentation you mention (24.7.1) says this: After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). How can this be done with a remote machine? NO without serial access or some kind of ALOM card eg DELL DRAC CARD, as you will have no ip up ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ---End Message--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE
*Snip to keep simple to read* Thanks all for the replies. I wanted to send a formal thank you instead of replying to each of the people who responded to me so I wouldn't be spamming the list, as I think that would be a much more polite way of doing it than sending a bunch of messages in filling everyone's inbox up :) The last time I used the CVSup method was I think 6.0 and at the time I had read through the docs on the FreeBSD page and made sure to have them not only ready, but I opened it up on another machine so I could check what I was doing off as I went along, and kept a book handy that was published around 5.0 but for some reason or another, probably do to my newbieness to BSD, it not only didn't work, I couldn't seem to boot anymore, which, as I said, I'm almost certain was do to my ignorance. Anyway, thanks again everyone, and now instead of risking it, I have set up FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on another machine I can use for testing as I feel this will help me learn more without worrying about messing up as I can always reinstall on that one. I've started using FreeBSD more in the last month or so and I've actually started to get the hang of it. I've always like it, which is why I show my appreciation financially whenever possible. I also like buying books, CD-ROM sets, Tee Shirts, stickers, pins, and whatever else from the FreeBSDMall and book stores which helps show people that they sell good and that more should get written or at least updated versions. For some reason if you follow along line by line in the book FreeBSD Unleashed Second edition which was written and came with 5.0 on CD, it doesn't work at all for some reason. I think there must have been a few changes in the way things are done between these versions but I couldn't get those instructions to work at all. I'm sure it works great on 5.0 but I kind of fell for 7.1 like a school kid lol. Anyway thanks again, sorry for the length of this message, and I'm glad I've susbscribed to this list again as I've gotten answers to many of my questions I couldn't quite find an answer for by googling it. -Allen. Promoting FreeBSD since 4.0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[Fwd: Re: KDE: What a monster!]
I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some things used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM? I personally use a myriad of Window Managers and Desktops on my machines. this is m set up: Main Desktop #1: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ / 512 MBs RAM / Crappy onboard video and sound cards / 120 GB HD / Dual Boots Open SUSE 11 and Windows XP home edition. I keep Windows around mostly for just in case, like for example school work requiring crap Office. Open SUSE is used mainly. I use it mainly as my active music making desktop to make my music with LMMS, and also sometimes for web browsing / Email. -- Main Desktop #2: Intel Celeron 2.40 GHz / 512 MBs RAM / Crappy on board sound and video / 80 GB HD with Windows XP for just in case / 160 GB HD for FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE which is what I normally have booted. Such as now. Mainly used as a machine to learn UNIX, browse the web, and I've allowed it to become the main email center. All my accounts are almost finished being sent over to it so I can use FreeBSD as my main OS for email as well. Just haven't decided on a 3rd email client other than Mutt :) Laptop : Intel Pentium 4 M Processor @ 3.06 GHz / 512 RAM / 32 MB Nvidia card / Onboard sound / 30 GB HD / Partition #1 = Windows XP Home so I can play Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, UT...You get the idea... Partition #2 = Mandriva Linux 2008. Main uses include web browsing, music making with LMMS, and other things. Old main Desktop / Now my FTP server / Was the first computer I ever bought: Pentium 3 Processor @ 733 MHz / 384 MBs RAM / Sound Blaster Live! Sound Card / Nvidia Riva Video card @16 MBs Video Memory / First HD = 43 GBs (Yes, I said 43 I know it's weird, but on Windows 98 when I used to have that installed it said 42.9) ... Anyway, the first drive is my /root partition with Slackware Linux 12.0 running a 2.6 Kernel. Second HD - 160 GBs - Formatted and mounted as /storage for extra storage as it is my FTP server. I basically use it as a way of backing up everyone on all my machines and then do another back up to CD-Rs and a USB HD that is 80 GBs, and a ZIP drive. works great. Video card in the machine barely works, so I don't have X on there as it would be useless. You can barely display graphics and it looks liek crap, so I just don't start up X. Beside, it's a server now, so it doesn't need a GUI. -- Test Machine : Celeron Processor @ 433 MHz / 192 MBs RAM / 80 GB HD / ATI video card with 8 MB video memory / Forgot sound card 3 GB Partition = Windows 98 SE for Magic The Gathering Game tat requires Windows 95 or 98 and won't run no NT / 2000 / XP line (The second version of this game was released because they realised it didn't work on the NT line). Partition #2 - Takes up rest of disk space...About 77 GBs. Has FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on it and is almost an exact copy of the installation on this machine. I use that last machine for a lot: I've set up an FTP server so I could test how well FreeBSD does as an FTP server. I also have a lot of toys to test on it with BSD as well. I listed the hardware and function because I think it's important to show what I'm running and what I use it for before saying what GUI stuff I use. On my laptop I use a mix of Enlightenment, Window Maker, and KDE and Gnome. Both of my main desktops run either KDE, Gnome, FVWM2, Enlightenment, or Window Maker. My test machine runs window Maker almost all the time, but sometimes I use FVWM2 or even Gnome or Enlightenment. XFCE has seen use as well. KDE does seem to lag more than the others, and I don't expect it to be snappy as I don't with Gnome either. For speed it's hard to beat FVWM2 or TWM, but for USEABLE speed, I like Window Maker. Enlightenment isn't exactly slow either. With Slackware 10.2 and E17 installed on that super slow 433 MHx box I was once able to turn on the special effects E17 has like snow and fire and ice, and it actually didn't lag much at all. I was shocked. Window Maker has been what I've been using a lot lately though with Gnome on the side when I want to use it. ---BeginMessage--- On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 06:15:09PM +, RW wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you use. IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically. I'm not sure how you mean that. I use AHWM on my FreeBSD laptop. It doesn't have desktop icons or menus or a taskbar or dock or
Re: [Fwd: Re: KDE: What a monster!]
Anders Troback wrote: Den Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0500 skrev Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net: I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some things used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM? http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~ahiorean/ahwm/ Thank you! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Steps to upgrade from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE
RW wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:07:46 -0700 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing really beats the CVS way. And when I tried a 7.0 to a 7.1, it wanted like 30,000 updates and was taking forever. It seems to me that most people that come to this list with base-system update problems are using freebsd-update. ___ This is going to seem stupid, but instead of making a new topic, can someone link to me a working link of the handbook where you update your CVS and so on? I know that on the FreeBSD page there is a handbook that has exactly what I'm looking for, and for some reason I'm having trouble finding it even though I used to have it saved but I don't anymore and I wanted to get CVS sources updated so I can do some updating. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Updates / Upgrades
Da Rock wrote: It can be tricky at first, and I'm not sure about the update-scan utility you're using. Check out the handbook and just run the directions from there: portsnap fetch portsnap update (or you can run portsnap fetch update in one go) then freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update install (or all in one as above) then (assuming you've installed portupgrade as you mentioned above) portupgrade -a then reboot. If this doesn't work post back your errors and we can help you debug. If there are no errors in running these steps then all is good! :) If you want to check your programs are up to date then run the portsnap steps again and run pkg_version -v. The freebsd-update steps will tell you whether FreeBSD is up to date. HTH and good luck. Thanks, I'm going to give this a try today. I had to take some time last night and redo my set up in the tech room. My Wife and I have an entire bedroom we aren't using (3 bedroom house, one spare room for guests, and one we weren't going to use) so we made one room a tech room with all out computers, and other little gadget workshop . After re-arranging some of the monitors and a desktop on my desk, I can now use my BSD test box without neck strain heh. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Updates / Upgrades
Hi all, I have installed FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE on two of my systems. One of them (This one I'm using) is a PC I use as one of my main desktops. The other I decided on after wanting to keep safe with my main one which has important data on it, so I decided to use another machine and do an install so I could test out patches and updates on it before applying them to this machine so that if something happened during the updates I wouldn't lose this machine and could just format the other machine if something really crashed or had a really huge error, and basically use this machine as production and that one as the test for things so I don't break / screw up anything. Anyway, I used a tool like this: #update-scan It gave me a list of ports and things to update and how to do it. Thing is, when I took the advice of what the application said, and did what it said, it still shows it. I moved over to the test machine and grabbed the application and ran it to see what I could do, and noticed I did miss the first step, so I figured that was the problem, and used my test machine to do an update for Perl. I saw it had two things to do to upgrade those packages, so I did step one, then, did step two. I figured this would remove it from the list of packages that need an upgrade, and after a few hours of downloading some stuff off my FTP server (MP3s, no software) I rebooted the machine. I was surprised to find Perl still listing to do the exact same thing. So this time I did this: portupgrade -a It said I needed to run the pkgdb thing, so I did. Once it finished and fixed up a few apps that needed something or other, I ran it again: portupgrade -a After a while, it started going and I figured everything would be done and I could update my main box after checking to be sure that the patches didn't break anything. Trouble is, after the reboot, I noticed that it still listed all of them. I'm almost certain the problem is me. So my question is, what am I doing wrong? I'm no guru or BSD hacker, but I am a competent user of Unix systems and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I'm a LITTLE new to doing on the fly upgrades like this I'll admit. Before I'd just wait for a new version of FreeBSD to come out, like say 6.0 - 6.x and just do a fresh install after backing up the small things I need and call it a day. So can someone please either type, copy and paste, or link me, to some info on doing updates and upgrades and patches so I can keep my system updated? BOTH machines are running FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE and both have almost the same software installed on them. I'd like to find out because I'm really enjoying 7.1, it has to be by far the best release I've used to date. portupgrade -a used to do all this for me and take a while, but I'm not sure what is going on with this one. Thanks for any help, -Allen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: KDE: What a monster!
prad wrote: :D :D :D actually my wife is using kde4 on suse. it's not too bad there for her needs at least, but i try to stay clear of her computer :D i did like kde3, but now i'm a dwm person! I've been using KDE4 on a machine with OpenSUSE 11 that has 512 MBs RAM, and an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ processor at 2.13GHz and it hasn't been slow or anything. I've also been fine with a Pentium 4 M @3.06GHz and 512 RAM. -Allen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Edit user groups
Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE and I have multiple user accounts set up. I made about 4 for myself to use and do various testing with, and made some for my Wife as well because She knows UNIX better than I do anyway heh. Anyway, one of the things I forgot about, was that FreeBSD by default doesn't allow just anyone to use su. I come from mainly using Linux, where you can log in and then whenever you need to open a root xterm or even a root shell, you just type the password and go. I looked up how to do this but most of my results came back with setting up user accounts, and other things. I did add another user that was in the wheel group so I could do it, but I'd really like to be able to add my main user account to the wheel group so I can su from this one instead of doing su otheruser and then su again to root. I found while searching for this something that MIGHT be what I'm looking for, but after reading it over, it seems I'd have to read through the whole man page first and then, it could be bad if I mistype something, or I could even screw up an account, which I can't risk. Is there an exact way to take a user account on my system, and add it to the wheel group? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Edit user groups
Thanks everyone for the replies, much appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org