Re: No Sound from Firefox

2013-10-06 Thread Dave Morgan
On 06/10/13 at 10:27am, Jerry wrote:
> Firefox has suddenly went silent. I can view videos on Youtube for
> instance, but there is no sound. If I save the video to dist and play
> it with MPlayer, there is sound. I did update several PHP modules the
> other day, but I don't know it that would have any effect on it. Also,
> on several sites, a video starts to load then a blank white area takes
> its place and that ends it. Any suggestions as to what might be the
> problem.
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Hi,

I think OSS support has been dropped from Firefox.

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Re: Errors building mysql55-client

2013-07-08 Thread Dave Hayes

On 06/27/13 03:13, C. L. Martinez wrote:

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Trond Endrestøl
 wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:55-, C. L. Martinez wrote:
Either the file named distinfo is messed up, or the maintainer has
access to a different file than the rest of us. Maybe you should wait
until the MySQL mirrors catches up.


I'm going to confirm that this was a recent patch to the ports tree:

http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/databases/mysql55-server/distinfo?r1=320671&r2=321789

It's pretty clear the versions the port is trying to download -used- to 
match the distinfo file, but they no longer do. This cryptic comment:


  Distfile rerolled to make it clearer the license of this
  community edition (GPLv2).

seems to be the source of these errors which are biting me too.

It would be nice for some clearer documentation on why distinfo was 
changed, what the real issue is, and what we can do to build this 
"correctly". Naively speaking, the version available for download off 
the mysql site matches the old distinfo SHA checksum so I'm not sure why 
this was changed at all.


I've CC'd the ports list and the responsible committer on this. I'll 
file a PR too if I get no response to this message. :)

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Re: List Spam Filtering

2013-05-17 Thread Robison, Dave
On 05/17/2013 05:45, Jerry wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:19:32 +0100
>  
>> It seems to me that the level of spam in list is pretty much
>> negligible.
> 
> That would be a subjective statement. It is like asking how many times
> you have to slap your wife before you are considered a wife beater.
> Interestingly enough, the FBI won't classify you as a serial killer
> until you have killed a minimum of three people.
> 

This has gotten to the point of the ridiculous now. Comparing a few spam to
wife beating and serial killers? That's just patently offensive, quite 
frankly.

All this bike shedding and crosstalk has produced far more pointless email
than all the spam I've gotten from this list in the last month.

Capitalism: we brought you the pop-up ad.


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Re: FreeBSD fstab Entry for Windows Share

2013-04-16 Thread Dave Anderson
When you put the entry in fstab and then try to mount it with fstab 
providing the details, what happens? i.e. without doing a reboot, test 
fstab by doing the mounts from the command line with the details in fstab


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Dear Dave , By using information from Polytropon's message , I could 
be able to define /etc/fstab entry correctly . With respect to your 
question : When an entry is erroneous in /etc/fstab file , booting is 
entering into single user mode . After correction of erroneous entry , 
a fast boot is restarting . The above cycle is continuing up to a 
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Re: FreeBSD fstab Entry for Windows Share

2013-04-16 Thread Dave Anderson
When you say could not do an fstab entry, can you say what happens? Do 
you get any messages in logs?


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On 16/04/2013 08:45, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:

Dear All ,


When a Windows XP share is mounted with the following command in FreeBSD
9.1 amd64 , it is working :



# mount_smbfs -I 192.168.10.25
//user_name_in_Windows_Administrators@NetBIOS_NAME_in_Windows/Share_Name_in_Windows
/mnt



I could not be able to write an /etc/fstab entry to mount that share during
boot .

When examples in many documents from Internet are imitated , no one of them
is working , or
man pages are not much helpful.


If an applicable , working statement is offered , it will be appreciated
very much .


Thank you very much .


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Re: Sendmail relaying for Intranet?

2013-02-12 Thread Robison, Dave

On 02/12/2013 12:54, Chris Maness wrote:
> I have a FreeBSD box running sendmail that can see the whole internet.
>  I have another mail server that hosts mail for an intranet.  It does
> not have access to the i-net.  I think I remember reading that it is
> possible for the i-net attached sendmail to relay mail for a domain to
> another host.  Is there an easy answer and configuration for this?  If
> not, no biggy since this exercise is more academic than a necessity.
> 
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in sendmail.cf on the host to be your relay, check for "DS" and use it
like this:

DS relayhost.domain.com

in sendmail.cf on the hosts which will be relaying, use the DS command
but point them to your new relay host.

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Re: How do you manage jails?

2012-11-29 Thread Robison, Dave
On 11/29/2012 13:34, Fbsd8 wrote:

> Stay away from using vimage with production jails (vimage provides a
> network stack for each jail). Vimage is marked as experimental and use
> at your own risk. You have to compile it into your kernel to deploy it.
> 

FWIW we are using vimages for several critical systems and have had
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Re: VPS FreeBSD Hosting

2012-11-26 Thread Robison, Dave
On 11/25/2012 13:08, Jim Flowers wrote:

> Can anyone comment on the providers and the technology in the context of
> having used them specifically for FreeBSD in the last few years?  Good?
> Bad? Indifferent?
> 

I've been using ARP networks for a couple of years now and I'm quite happy.

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Re: FreeBSD in finance sector

2012-09-07 Thread Robison, Dave
On 09/07/2012 10:55, Kaya Saman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of any financial firms or banks that run FreeBSD?
>

We use FreeBSD for our lockbox/remittance processing system. We have
non-disclosure agreements which prevent me from mentioning bank names,
but the most prominent players use our system running FreeBSD.

Last year our systems processed well over 1.6 trillion dollars in
financial transactions. We do have a few smaller systems running Linux,
however all but a fairly negligible amount of that dollar total was
processed by systems running FreeBSD.

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Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Robison, Dave
nice ad hominem screed

On 08/20/2012 12:57, Jerry wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:40:40 + (UTC)
> jb articulated:
>
>> This is a bad thing for all UNIX or UNIX-like ecosystems, performed
>> under the noble flag of "progress" to neutralize and fight opposition.
> Do you have any idea how idiotic that statement sounds? What are you
> planning on doing? Are you going to lay siege to their domains and
> prepare for a full frontal assault?
>
> Seriously though, I have spent years attempting to get things to work
> in FreeBSD with either utter or partial failure. Wireless "N" NICs were
> totally orphaned by FreeBSD for years. Now, reluctantly I would assume,
> there is some partial support. Support for "FLASH" basically sucks.
> Hell, there is not even a viable "Tex-Live" port, an application that I
> have working perfectly on a Windows machine. The list goes on and on.
> The only constant I have been able to determine is that the open-source
> community, and FreeBSD in particular, would rather play the "blame
> game" as opposed to correcting the problem. Everyone else is always to
> blame, when in reality, all that is needed to determine the true source
> of the problem is to look in the mirror. The answer will stare them
> right in the face.
>
> I no longer spend days trying to debug a problem that I did not
> create. My time is just way to valuable for that nonsense. I simply
> find an acceptable alternative and move on. I don't need to be taking
> more drugs to control my blood pressure. I would strongly suggest that
> you find alternatives that suit your needs and leave the past behind.
> You'll feel better and enjoy life more.
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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-16 Thread Robison, Dave
On 07/16/2012 10:10, Mark Felder wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi
>  wrote:
>
>> This is *precisely*  why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade
>> tools like Spinrite.
>
> I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you?
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Nice ad hominem there. Very impressive. Perhaps we can sink a bit lower
by making some random comments about people's mothers while we're at it.

I've used Spinrite a few times with good results. It does take forever
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-21 Thread Robison, Dave
On 06/21/2012 10:30, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Because there's no reason to do that. It's an asinine suggestion.
>>
>> Clang is here to stay. Most of us are happy about that decision. GCC
>
> Because most that are not already stopped and ignored thing. and use GCC.
>
> Politics won.
>

Excellent. We have a winner.

Now you can stop commenting.


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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-21 Thread Robison, Dave
On 06/21/2012 00:33, Hooman Fazaeli wrote:
> Dear community
>
> In the past, I built a 8TB ZFS log server on freebsd 7.4.
> However, the system  experienced instablility after long up times.
> My main motive to use ZFS was UFS inability to support large
> file systems.
>
> Now, I want to the same thing on 8.3 and wanted to know
> your opinion on ZFS stability. Is there any success story using
> ZFS in 24x7, large volume, heavy duty servers? Is there any
> other option other than ZFS to build larger than 2TB file systems?
>

We use ZFS for critical data and are quite happy with it. I've been
using it in production since 8.1-R and have yet to have a problem.
Make sure you do your zpool scrubs regularly. I use a cron job.

We are currently migrating our customer RAID arrays to ZFS to
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-21 Thread Robison, Dave
On 06/21/2012 10:08, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>
>> You seem to be unaware of what percentage of the development and
>> maintenance staff and the money to pay for them comes from those
>> commercial users. If FreeBSD cannot maintain the critical mass to
>> continue, it will not continue.
>
> but why it isn't clearly stated:
>
> "We put clang because sponsors wanted it."
>


Because there's no reason to do that. It's an asinine suggestion.

Clang is here to stay. Most of us are happy about that decision. GCC
will still be in the ports tree for those of you who prefer to run it.

Your questions have been answered repeatedly, ad nauseam, but apparently
you don't like and won't accept the answers so you ask the questions
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Re: Why Clang

2012-06-18 Thread Robison, Dave
GPL runs contrary to the nature and intent of the BSD style license.
Free and open software benefits us all.

Getting rid of GPL is a good thing, and well worth any (debatable)
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Re: Uptime [OT]

2012-06-15 Thread Robison, Dave
On 06/15/2012 08:30, Bernt Hansson wrote:
>
> Aha.A pissing contest and it's fridaycount me in...
>
> FreeBSD fqdn 4.11-RELEASE-p20 FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p20 #0: Mon Aug 28
> 07:21:42 CEST 2006 user@fqdn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HPNETSERVERFW  i386
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I'll bite. Here's an internal machine.

Old timers should appreciate the name "ref1". I remember the original
ref machine. I got to kick it in the head a few times.

firewall0# uname -a
FreeBSD firewall0.dev.vicor.com 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #5: Thu
Nov  1 14:57:38 PST 2001
jul...@ref1.dev.vicor-nb.com:/usr/home/julian/checkout_test/prod/kernel/external_source/compile/VICOR
 
i386



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Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-14 Thread Dave U . Random
> If you read Fedora's page they were planning to tighten their boot
> sequence to then only boot their approved binary kernels.

Save your old copies of lilo and grub. You're gonna need them if you want to
stay on Intel Mafioso hardware.

> Risk of key revocation later 
>   If hardware manufacturer ships new bios or uefi, or user
>   upgrades to new UEFI (eg I as a user must upgrade a uefi
>   soon as a laptop overheats).  + if MS get away with this
>   intrusion, next they'll consider requiring a "Call Home"
>   demon

No, this doesn't run on the OS. It runs from UEFI in the BIOS. Internet
connectivity is already part of the UEFI spec. Your box doesn't even to have
to be running. As long as it's plugged in, you're at their beck and call.

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Re: Lost /var/db/pkg

2012-06-13 Thread Robison, Dave
On 06/13/2012 16:10, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Eitan Adler  wrote:
>
>> On 13 June 2012 12:17, jb  wrote:
>>> William Orr  worrbase.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I had a hard disk failure some time ago, and I ended up losing
>>>> /var/db/pkg/ and everything under it (before you say I should've been
>>>> backing it up, I know, I was actually doing an initial full when this
>>>> happened). Is there a way I can restore it, or at least manually add
>>>> entries I know for sure about?
>>> forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6466
>>> "The application themselves are still installed and will keep
>> functioning, you
>>> just removed the records of their installation. When you later install
>> newer
>>> versions, you may have to use a force flag to overwrite files (the port
>> thinks
>>> it is uninstalled after all). The new port installations will get
>> recorded in
>>> /var/db/pkg again.'
>>>
>>> jb
>> This will work if you need minimal downtime, but *will* come back to
>> bite you some time down the line.
>>
>>
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> you could cross reference the package .tbz files with what's on your
> system.
>
> ie, tar -ztvf apache-2.2.22_5.tbz
> shows you what's in /usr/local/bin, etc. Might even be able to focus on man
> pages only to get an xref index.
>
> I believe the files for /var/db/pkg are in the tbz files.
> if you didn't keep your system up to date it might be trouble matching
> versions, but you could get the list and see what's what, or at least have
> a good idea of what _was_ installed.
> I haven't tried but you could stick the 'current' files for /var/db/pkg
> from tbz, matching what's installed - regardless of the 'new' version and
> actual version installed, then to a pkg_delete --force then pkg_add .tbz .
> it might complain about missing files but will 'prolly function.
> If you have like 700-1000+ packages it might be worth the trouble.
>
> A thought :)
>
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locate /var/db/pkg

Might show you what was there recently...

ls /usr/ports/distfiles

might also go a long way toward showing you what you once had installed.

apologies if these were previously mentioned.

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Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice

2012-06-09 Thread Dave Morgan
On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote:
> FreeBSD 9 on x86_64.
>
> I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to
> 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the
> following modules:
>
> vcl
> framework
> sfx2
> tail_build
>
> Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a
> gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make.
>
> This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it
> completed successfully.
>
> When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the
> portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will
> just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth.
>
> Q1) Is this a sensible approach?
>
> Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on?
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There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and
boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them.

I did this and it worked for me.

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Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-06 Thread Dave U . Random
Mark Felder  wrote:

> Yes, let's all run ALPHA and MIPS hardware. I'll just jam my Nvidia card  
> into one of the available slots and everything should work OK, right?

Dear Numbskull,

It's co-dependent hostages like you who enable Intel Mafiaware. According to
your logic we should all be using Windows since everything just works,
right?



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Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-06 Thread Dave U . Random
Wojciech Puchar  wrote:

> anyway NOBODY are forced to buy micro-soft software.

That's almost correct but not quite. In 99% of the cases any Intel commodity
mafiaware comes with a preinstalled Winblows. You're paying for it whether
you want it or not. You can get a refund in many cases but it's more effort
than most peoples' time is worth.

> Nobody is forced to buy a PC.

True. I got rid of all my Intel mafiaware a few years ago and I don't miss
it. It's nice in the winter as well.

> Doing this with PC market will result in larger market share for 
> non-Wintel hardware.

I hope it does but sheeple are stupid and don't care.
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Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?

2012-06-06 Thread Dave U . Random
Polytropon  wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the
> > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to
> > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own?

It's time to dump the Intel/Microshaft mafia forever. FreeBSD, OpenBSD,
NetBSD, and even Linux have ports to many platforms. Why stay on Intel? It's
an overgrown ugly mess.

We need to stop buying Intel mafiaware with preinstalled Microshaft mafiware
and run a free (or in the case of Linux "apparently free") OS on free
hardware.

There are increasing numbers of SBCs and plenty of used servers on
Ebay. They're all built better than commodity Intel mafiaware. Good
riddance!

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Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-15 Thread Dave B
On 13 Apr 2012 at 23:51, Frank Staals wrote:

> "John McDonnell"  writes:
> 
> > All in all, creating an entry in Site Manager makes more sense if
> > it's something you connect to from your own hardware. From someone
> > else's machine, the quick connect is quite handy though.
> 
> Don't forget to clear out the entry from the dropdown list then.
> Because I think FileZilla will remember your password as well. Worst
> ``feature'' ever if you ask me
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> -- 
> 
> - Frank

Indeed it does, and yes I do (clear that list out) but thanks for the 
reminder, and of course it's useful info for others too.

Regards.

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Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-13 Thread Dave B
On 13 Apr 2012 at 9:21, John McDonnell wrote:

> > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dave B
> 
> > FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it
> > to invoke SFTP, the "Quickconnect" feature just uses plain vanilla FTP.
> > 
> > Best Regards.
> > 
> > Dave Baxter.
> 
> You can use the "Quickconnect" feature with SFTP. If you are running
> on standard port 22, you can simply put 22 in the port box. For
> non-standard ports, you can prepend sftp:// to the host name and it
> will connect via SFTP instead of FTP.
> 

Cheers, I'll try that next time I'm on "the outside" of my home LAN, it 
seems to work from the inside, as it would of course...

At present, there a suitably configured link in the site manager.

Thanks again.

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Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-13 Thread Dave B
On 12 Apr 2012 at 12:40, Da Rock wrote:

> On 04/11/12 21:51, Dave B wrote:
> > FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0:
> > Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010
> > root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC  i386
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current,
> > but it works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached
> > PPS equipped GPS.  No problems with that.
> >
> > It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal,
> > for my own use.
> >
> > The FTP "server" is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and
> > works well for all that I need.
> >
> > Anyway...  I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into
> > my home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the
> > LAN using PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am.  It's been a
> > useful dodge for me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are
> > there.   The needed SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's
> > way up high, well away from script kiddies etc.
> >
> > I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the
> > FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when
> > connecting this way using a SSH tunnel.
> >
> > Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports
> > forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the
> > same range as those tunneled.)  Though the FTP process appears to
> > work OK, with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the
> > server ends up as name only, and zero bytes in length.
> >
> > Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over
> > the SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine.
> >
> > The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times.
> > (V3.1.0.1  I may go look for any updates, just in case.)
> >
> > Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just
> > uploading that's screwey.  I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue,
> > but even if I su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes
> > nothing.
> 
> I'd check the ports you are forwarding over ssh. Two ports are
> required for ftp and it sounds like one is blocking for some reason-
> the control channel seems to be working fine though :) 

As I suspect too, but as yet, I've not figured it out.  I can as above 
download files just fine, so the data channel can be established for 
that, and I am using Passive Mode, so it *Should* be only my end (the 
client) that initiates a connection for the data channel.

Also, two versions of FileZilla *Appear* to succeed uploading a file, no 
errors regarding being unable to setup a data channel, just that when you 
look on the FreeBSD box later, the file is zero bytes in size.

Regards.

Dave Baxter.

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Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-13 Thread Dave B
On 12 Apr 2012 at 9:32, Frank Staals wrote:

> "Dave B"  writes:
> 
> > Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it
> > up on the FreeBSD box.  As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt
> > correct and complete as a "reference", are no good to people who
> > don't already know "How To" do it.
> 
> There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running. You
> can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to connect
> to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> 
> - Frank

Hi Frank.

Thanks for that suggestion.

It works well!

Issue resolved for now :-)

FYI, you have to create an entry in FileZilla's Site Manager, for it to 
invoke SFTP, the "Quickconnect" feature just uses plain vanilla FTP.

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Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-13 Thread Dave B
On 12 Apr 2012 at 11:28, Frank Bonnet wrote:

> > "Dave B"  writes:
> > 
> >> Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set
> >> it up on the FreeBSD box.  As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt
> >> correct and complete as a "reference", are no good to people who
> >> don't already know "How To" do it.
> > 
> > There is not much to set up. Just make sure you have sshd running.
> > You can then just sftp (or any other client that supports sftp) to
> > connect to port 22, or whatever port sshd is listening on. 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > - Frank
>
> why not ftp over TLS ? like proftpd or pure-ftpd can do ?
> 

Hi.

Because as yet, I have not figured out how to get ProFTP or PureFTP 
installed and WORKING without bricking the machine.  There is no step by 
step "how to" (that I've yet found) with also guidance as to how to work 
arround the inevitable issues that occur.   The man pages are just 
command references, not an instruction book on how to use them.  Sorry.

Hence, I'm using the native OS's inbuilt FTP facility.  Even that took me 
3 days to get going in the first instance.  (file Access rights issues 
and poor, even if correct, documentation.)

Regards.

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Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-11 Thread Dave B
On 11 Apr 2012 at 14:54, Mike Clarke wrote:

> On Wednesday 11 April 2012, Dave B wrote:
> 
> > I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the
> > FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when
> > connecting this way using a SSH tunnel.
> 
> Would it not be simpler just to use sftp directly rather than
> tunnelling ftp through ssh?
> 
> -- 
> Mike Clarke

Hi, ordinarily perhaps yes, if I could only figure out how to set it up 
on the FreeBSD box.  As always, the "Manuals" though no doubt correct and 
complete as a "reference", are no good to people who don't already know 
"How To" do it.

Originally, the FTP was purely for other machines at home to periodicaly 
dump data for some pages of the small website it also hosts.  There was 
(is) no need for SFTP for that, as all the machines are in the same room 
at home.

Thanks for the reply.

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FTP oddness, over SSH session.

2012-04-11 Thread Dave B
FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0:
Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010 
root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC  i386

Hi.

I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current, but it 
works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached PPS equipped 
GPS.  No problems with that.

It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal, for 
my own use.

The FTP "server" is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and works 
well for all that I need.

Anyway...  I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into my 
home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the LAN using 
PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am.  It's been a useful dodge for 
me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are there.   The needed 
SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's way up high, well away 
from script kiddies etc.

I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the FTP 
server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when connecting this 
way using a SSH tunnel.

Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports 
forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the same 
range as those tunneled.)  Though the FTP process appears to work OK, 
with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the server ends up as 
name only, and zero bytes in length.

Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over the 
SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine.

The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times. (V3.1.0.1  I 
may go look for any updates, just in case.)

Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just uploading 
that's screwey.  I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue, but even if I 
su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes nothing.

The FTP user is a different name from who I'm logged in as by SSH, is 
that the issue?But what confuses me, is that it works from this same 
PC, if it's on the home LAN, using the same FTP user credentials.

I'm obviously lacking in my understanding of something, but what?

I may not get to see any replies for a day or three, as I've got to head 
off across country for work later, and it's not yet known if tonight's 
hotel even has WiFi, or if there is decent mobile coverage where I'm 
going.   (Out in the Wiltshire sticks. UK, and I'm stuck with Orange.)

Thanks in advance.

Dave B

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Re: Access to Time Warner cable network

2012-04-02 Thread Dave
On 1 Apr 2012 at 19:05, Jerry wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:50:42 +1000
> Da Rock articulated:
>
> > Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he
> > is a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be
> > dismissed out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I
> > wouldn't want to ruin your delusion.
>
> No delusion here. You have confirmed what I suspected. A classic case
> of "The blind leading the blind." If one idiot can screw something up,
> just think what two idiots can accomplish?
>
> --
> Jerry
>
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> Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
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>
>

In the world of the blind, the one eyed bloke is promoted to near god
like status!

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Re: Access to Time Warner cable network

2012-04-02 Thread Dave
On 1 Apr 2012 at 10:21, Erich Dollansky wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote:
> > >
> > > Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment?
> > > My neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our
> > > block that was too low  and a moving van hit it.
> > 
> > Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is
> > ok- just FBSD box is the issue.
> 
> so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what
> the difference might be.
> 
> Erich
> 
> 

fbsd8

How do you connect to your TW ISP?  Just a Cable modem of some sort, or 
is there a Router involved somewhere?   It makes a whole world of 
difference

I.e.   How "Physically" do you hook together, in each instance, for the 
XP box, and F'BSD box.

Regards.

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floppy boot hangs

2012-03-15 Thread Dave Whelan

Hello,
I am a new user trying to install freebsd 7.2 using floppies and ftp. I 
have reached the part where I should start getting an ftp download but 
it couldn't find the server I had selected. Now, the Options Editor 
tells me that "Media Type" is not yet set and I am not able to set it. 
It seems that "Media Type" cannot be set once you have buggered up the 
ftp download.
My question: Is something I can do that will allow me to set the "Media 
Type" from the Options Editor or must I go through the whole boot 
process all over again?

Regards,
Dave.
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Re: Email issues, relay failure

2012-02-24 Thread Robison, Dave


On 02/24/2012 13:52, Bender, Chris wrote:
> Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about.
>
> Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to
> send to another machine.
>
> The senmail locally looks to deliver email to a que and the que looks to
> forward to another machine.
>
>  
>
> However this looks to break.Can somebody help me diagnose and
> repair.
>
>  
>
> It may be the remote machine never gets the email and thusly never
> delivers the email. 
>
>  
>
> Here is local machine response to my sending the following command
>
>  
>
> echo "test email from ccl `date` " | mailx -s "test email from ccl
> `date` " c...@cell.com
>
>  
>
> The que message show the following..
>
>  
>
> Running /var/spool/mqueue/q1OKcmpH017170 (sequence 1 of 20)
>
> ... Connecting to tools.wms.cellularatsea.com. via
> relay...
>
> ... Deferred: Connection timed out with
> tools.wms.cell.com.
>
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>
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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

2012-02-24 Thread Dave
On 24 Feb 2012 at 12:37, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> "Dave"  writes:
> > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from,
> > are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some
> > server somewhere.
>
> It is public information:
>
> http://www.freebsd. org/doc/en_ US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff
> -committers.html
>
> DES
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>
>

Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address
harvesting bots won't get anything usable.

Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info,
you have to re-type it manually.

Most other similar websites have done that sort of thing with great
success.

I can't believe in this day and age, info like that is still presented in
a way that makes it harvister-bot friendly.

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

2012-02-24 Thread Dave
On 24 Feb 2012 at 17:28, Erich Dollansky wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote:
> > Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to"
> > settings.
> 
> I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all.
> > 
> > Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388
> > (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list.
> 
> Wasn't it 389?

:-)

> > 
> > Might the list settings need tweaking a bit?
> > 
> > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from,
> > are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some
> > server somewhere.
> 
> Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org?
> 
> Erich

Indeed, so some settings might do with a tweak, to at least obfuscate 
posters addresses, so that at least script kiddies are flumoxed.

I never intentionaly use any "Reply to All" function.  In fact, this 
mailer doesn't even have a button for that.  You have to select where the 
reply goes, after you hit the "reply" button, from a list of available 
addresses in the incoming message header, that the mailer has recognised.

Just a thought as this problem is not going to go away.

Dave B.

PS:
How about a "regional Beastie" wearing a headscarf and carring an assault 
rifle instead of a trident?

That's me targeted then

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Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.]

2012-02-24 Thread Dave
Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" settings.

Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was 
it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list.

Might the list settings need tweaking a bit?

Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are 
they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server 
somewhere.

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.

2012-02-23 Thread Robison, Dave
On 02/23/2012 09:27, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> Never underestimate the power of the Symbol! Hail Satan! 

So mote it be!


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Re: New iso format on 9.0

2012-02-21 Thread Robison, Dave
On 02/21/2012 10:28, Devin Teske wrote:
> Why can't you mount the disc on /mnt and then use tar after mounting the disk 
> to copy the files from /mnt to /destdir ...
>
> tar cpf - -C /mnt . | tar xvpf - -C /destdir
>
> That will preserve hard links, symlinks, permissions, and times (and doesn't 
> require rsync).
>
> There are other methods involving cpio, but I find tar to be nice.


Just FYI, a trick using cpio which Julian once taught me:

find . -depth | cpio -pdmluv /destination/dir/here


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Re: One or Four?

2012-02-20 Thread Robison, Dave
On 02/20/2012 09:44, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
>> So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use 
>> of FreeBSD and people responded.  Or do you consider this thread 
>> to be too technical?   Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers.
> Yes,
> hackers@  Would have been a better choice.
> sysinstall@   Perhaps yet better,
> arch@ Perhaps might consider it too trivial for them.
> current@  If poster intended to get new code committed to current.
>
> For most topics on questions, that aren't of the "Help! I'm a struggling
> lost newbie" class, there's a range of lists tuned to topics.
>   http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo
>
> Cheers,
> Julian

Hiya,

We discussed this beforehand and decided questions was the better venue.
I wanted to get some good general opinions, and definitely got some.

I had hoped to avoid any type of descent into intellectual elitism, and
on this point I failed.

Dave



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Re: swap space

2012-02-17 Thread Robison, Dave

On 02/17/2012 15:58, Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote:

is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap?

A "df" seems to avoid the swap area.

You're looking for "swapinfo"

Regards,


Chuck beat me to it.

"swapinfo" or top are the two ways I normally check.



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Re: One or Four?

2012-02-17 Thread Robison, Dave

On 02/17/2012 15:55, Chuck Swiger wrote:


Yes.  It works as intended even when /tmp is part of a single root partition; 
although mounting /tmp as a RAM- or swap-based tmpfs filesystem might be better 
for many situations.


Sure it has its uses, but now you're jumping into new territory where 
the installer has to either ask the user to create tmpfs or make the 
decision to do it on its own. As has been stated, this is fine if 
sufficient RAM is available. Personally I don't like using RAM for tmp.




Making this world-writable bucket part of "/" seems silly both for Desktops and 
Servers alike.

You're welcome to your opinion.  However, I suspect you're expecting FreeBSD 
systems to always be partitioned and administered by knowledgeable BSD Unix 
sysadmins, and those are not always so readily available as one might assume.



I'm not sure why someone has to be knowledgeable to select a particular 
partitioning scheme. Is it better for a novice to have one big / to fill 
up as opposed to a separate /var or /tmp?



b. A nuisance

As "Da Rock" points out, ... recovering your system from a
file-system-full-event when using "single-/" is just as difficult regardless of
Desktop versus Server. Having "/tmp" alleviates the difficulty.

It would if /tmp was mounted on a disk partition, and if it also happened to be 
where space was being consumed.  /var/log and /home tend to be more likely 
locations in my experience, but YMMV.



Actually, in my experience I have huge problems with users misusing /tmp 
as a holding spot for all manner of files. I like keeping /tmp separate 
and smallish to discourage its use for everyday transfers. Those things 
belong in a users home directory, not in /tmp.





However, for whatever reasons, the overwhelming majority of folks using MacOS X don't have problems 
using a single root partition, and while they sometimes do fill up their disks, that's a situation 
which they should be able to recover from without needing expert assistance.  I don't recall having 
unusual issues in running a partition out of space under FreeBSD, either, or difficulty fixing 
things afterwards-- but such doesn't happen very often if you monitor your systems properly, and 
have time to respond to "low-space" conditions before they turn into "out of 
space" conditions.

Regards,


Previously you said that knowledgeable unix admins aren't as common as 
might be thought... now you're making the assumption that these same 
novice users will monitor their systems properly for low-space 
conditions. In a perfect world we all have snmp running properly or some 
other way to notify us of impending doom. In the real world these things 
always seem to sneak up and bite us on the behind.


However this is all superfluous conversation if the installer gives each 
user a variety of options. You can select your "one big partition" 
scheme or go with multiple partitions depending on your preference, and 
from what I've read so far, this seems to be not only a reasonable idea, 
but also one which many people would prefer.


Dave


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Re: One or Four?

2012-02-17 Thread Robison, Dave

On 02/17/2012 15:22, Julian H. Stacey wrote:




Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default.

No. Bad idea. Not on questions@, the list of the least clued up,
the list raw beginners are referred to subscribe to.  At least get
a majority on hackers@ or current@ or arch@.  Some answers one sees
on questions@ are very good, but some are ... the other way.


Cheers,
Julian


Actually, the discussion and ideas so far have been very interesting and 
helpful.


Keep it coming.

Dave


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One or Four?

2012-02-17 Thread Robison, Dave

Hiya,

A question has arisen with the implementation of bsdinstall in 9.x as 
opposed to sysinstall in 8.x and previous versions of FreeBSD.


It has always been FreeBSD's default to create four partitions and swap 
as such:


/
/tmp
/var
/usr
swap

The recent changes in 9.x with bsdinstall use a default behavior which 
creates only one partition and swap, with everything living under a 
single "/" partition as such:


/
swap

We'd like a show of hands to see if folks prefer the "old" style default 
with 4 partitions and swap, or the newer iteration with 1 partition and 
swap.


This is not a discussion of MBR vs GPT. The default moving forward from 
9.x will be to use GPT.


We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as 
one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We 
want to know if people would prefer the older style default with four 
partitions and swap when selecting "Guided Partitioning" and "Use Entire 
Disk".


Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default.

Thanks,

Dave

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Re: laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-16 Thread Dave
On 15 Feb 2012 at 17:25, Fbsd8 wrote:

> I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a
> small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the handbook
> about this so I am asking here.
> 
> How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen?
> 
> 

Many Toshiba laptops have a feature in the BIOS (Stretch or Expand) so 
that a 640x480 text screen (for example) will fill the full disaply, 
whatever the physical pixel resolution is.   Looks weird, but it does 
what it says.

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Re: fixit disc for 7.3 #1?

2012-02-15 Thread Dave
On 14 Feb 2012 at 18:01, Gary Kline wrote:

> On 02/14/2012 05:40 PM, Da Rock wrote:
> > On 02/15/12 10:08, Gary Kline wrote:
> >> guys,
> >>
> >> is there still a  way of fixing something i did to my existing
> >> installation?  it does nothing but continually cycle e and try to
> >> reboot into the old release i had from feb 2011.  i thought editing
> >> out /etc/fstab would do it.  but nope, it throws me into the lowest
> >> level manual config and then hangs.  i cannot even install release
> >> 9.0 which is the only other path.  either some stable distro of
> >> debian, or getting past release8 and going to   9.
> >>
> >> first, tho, i need to get rid of this [[messed up]] 7.3.
> >>
> >> let me share a story from when i was visiting a favorite cousin who
> >> put up about half of NASA's huge antennas.  long retired, he lives
> >> out where not even god could find him.  he wanted to see proof of
> >> my beloved freebsd.  so, using a new set of discs that i bought, i
> >> started the installation.  { FWIW, --this was in july, 2000.  }  I
> >> happened to mention that freebsd had trouble configuring the
> >> printers.  or that   that could get hairy.  he stopped what he was
> >> doing and asked me to get back to his windows toys and games.  i
> >> had a floppy w ith the mystery file "MBR" that removed that single
> >> file.
> >>
> >> my hunch is that since i never mess with anything but freebsd, i
> >> left it configure itself by default and that the same thing that
> >> stalled me for ten minutes back in 2000, might be what's stopping
> >> me from installing anything over my 7.3 in 2012.
> >>
> >> any wizards how how to fix  this?
> > Are you sure you can't backup your important files and start again?
> > You might have a good deal of trouble jumping by 2 major releases at
> > the best of times.
> >
> > Also, 9.0 is significantly different in many ways to 7.x in dir
> > structure _and_ filesystems, to just mention a few. I new (clean)
> > install would be _highly_ recommended ;)
> > ___
> 
> i have a working copy on 7.3 #4 on my Server.  the server in a 2009
> dell;  the one that is busted and that i want to upgrade ---to either
> debian-6-iso or freebsd9-iso is my old 2003 dell.  two different
> computers.  the thing with the old dell is that nothing can boot off
> it.  it keep cycling, trying to boot a 7.3 #1.
> 
> i just remembered that the floppy disk   was a DOS file  with a secret
> command :A:\MBR that got rid of that boot track.
> 
> it's looking more and more hopeless.
> 
> 
> 
> wasn't/isn't there some kind of "fixit" CD?
> 
> gary

Sounds like you need to get into the Dell's BIOS, and alter the boot 
order, so as it looks first at CD and Floppy drives, before the hard 
disk.  Dell's can be funny things at times though, especially if it's 
been setup for a headless boot (server mode)...

The old tool you're thinking of for DOS/Windows was "FixMBR".

I thihk like 'Da Rock' has suggested, you best pull the affected hard 
disk, and either put it in a USB caddy, then mount it as an external 
drive on a working system, if it's not badly mullered somehow, or install 
it as an extra drive in such a similar system, and get stuff off it like 
that, is probably the best way.

Then, flatten it and do a clean install of whatever, with it fitted back 
into it's original home.

Unless someone else comes up with a better plan.

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: Printing directly to IP address

2012-02-14 Thread Robison, Dave
You're going to want to use lpr, and you'll have to set up /etc/printcap 
first.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-lpr-freebsd.html

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-unix.html

The command I use to print to a printer set up in /etc/printcap:

lpr -P filename_to_print

lpq will show you the queue, lprm removes jobs from the queue.

Hope this helps.




On 02/14/2012 11:57, Jerry wrote:

I was contacted recently by a friend who was studying printing under
FreeBSD<http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html>. He
presently runs a mixture of Windows and Ubuntu PCs.

The documentation deals primarily with "parallel" and "serial"
printers. Personally, I cannot remember the last time I used either;
however, that is not pertinent. My friend accesses the printer(s) the
same way I do, via a wireless network. The difference is that I am
using CUPS to achieve that goal. My friend would like to do it sans
CUPS if possible.

I know it is possible; however, I cannot find any actual documentation
under the "printing" section in the FreeBSD manual. If anyone could
provide a link to such documentation, it would be appreciated. Updating
the "Printing" section in the manual would also seem like a worthwhile
endeavor also. I did a quick perusal of the section and even USB is
discouraged.




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Re: Linux compatibility

2012-02-13 Thread Dave
On 13 Feb 2012 at 21:01, Da Rock wrote:

> On 02/13/12 20:08, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to get Linux running various applications to the.
> > Brandelf was applied to the binaries. But any Linux application
> > crashes at startup.
> >
> > freebsd-desk# kldstat
> > Id Refs AddressSize Name
> >   1   21 0xc040 8c6d08   kernel
> >   21 0xc0cc7000 4864 sem.ko
> >   31 0xc41eb000 8000 linprocfs.ko
> >   41 0xc41f3000 28000linux.ko
> >   51 0xc44ae000 9000 i915.ko
> >   61 0xc44b7000 15000drm.ko
> >
> > freebsd-desk# cat /etc/rc.conf | grep linux
> > linux_enable="YES"
> >
> > $ /usr/local/bin/linux-firefox
> > /usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/firefox: symbol lookup error:
> > /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE,
> > version GLIBCXX_3.4
> >
> > $ /usr/local/bin/eagle
> > /usr/local/share/eagle5/bin/eagle: symbol lookup error:
> > /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNSt8messagesIcE2idE,
> > version GLIBCXX_3.4
> >
> > $ googleearth
> > ./googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: ./libge_net.so: undefined
> > symbol: _ZNSbIwSt11char_traitsIwESaIwEE4_Rep20_S_empty_rep_storageE,
> > version GLIBCXX_3.4
> >
> > Does anyone a idea where is the mistake?
> I was going to wait and see if anyone else responded, but you are best
> off trying emulation@.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 

Don't you have to install/load a module for Linux binary compatability to 
work in F'BSD?  I seem to remember that being mentioned during a recent 
8.something install.

Dave B.

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Very strange netstat -rna output

2012-01-30 Thread Dave
Hello,
 I'm having a problem on a server of mine that is acting as a bridge,
that whenever I download from the server itself it's very slow. From
machines going through it's bridge there are no problems.

When looking for what could be the cause, I had a look at my routing
table and saw the following --

10.10.10.1   0.12.da.44.e4.0UHLW20 bridge   1200
10.10.10.2   0.14.c2.60.85.75   UHLW1   87 bridge   1110
10.10.10.7   0.17.35.13.60.10   UHLW1  373lo0
10.10.10.30  0.25.90.1.60.83UHLW20 bridge   1110

As you can see the second column which usually shows a MCA is showing
some rather strange output? What could be the cause of this?

Thanks
Dave
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Re: Problem with ntfs and fusesf since upgrade to 9.0

2012-01-15 Thread Dave Morgan
On 15/01/12 at 01:18pm, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
> Le Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:01:04 +,
> Dave Morgan  a écrit :
>
> > Hi,
>
> Hello,
>
> > After upgrading from 8.2 to 9.0 I get the following and I am unable
> > to access my external ntfs usb drive.
> >
> > KLD fuse.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch
> > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: File exists
> >
> > All ports were rebuilt with "portupgrade -af" and the sources do
> > match the kernel.
> >
> > Have I done something wrong or is this a known problem or bug?
>
> It works for me (c). So I guess you have made something wrong.
> Double check that the source / kernel are uptodate and are the
> same as the release (ie cvsup RELENG_9_0).
>
> here (but with a hand built kernel)
>
> $ kldstat
> Id Refs AddressSize Name
>  1   44 0x8020 11cda30  kernel
> ...
> 131 0x8275a000 a96b fuse.ko
>
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD roxette.lamaiziere.net 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Sat
> Jan  7 17:18:15 CET 2012 
> patr...@roxette.lamaiziere.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ROXETTE  amd64
>
> Regards.

Thanks that fixed it.  I had tag=RELENG_9 changing it to tag=RELENG_9_0
is what I needed to do.

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Re: Probable Hardware Failure

2012-01-15 Thread Dave
On 14 Jan 2012 at 16:12, Doug Hardie wrote:

> I have a pretty old desktop that has been around quite awhile.  It has
> started periodic crashes.  No log messages.  However, the core status
> files all show "double fault".  I am confident this is a hardware
> issue, but is there any easy way to determine if its power or memory
> related?  Those are the primary candidates although memory is also
> possible.  We really need to replace the entire unit, but that might
> be a bit more salable if I can present convincing evidence of the
> cause of the problem.
> 

Doug.

First check the Power Supply voltages are correct, and not too noisy.  
You'll need a good DMM, and 'scope for that.

Then, Visually examine the motherboard.  Are any of the round can 
electrolytic cap's "Bulging" at the top, or showing some brown or green 
gunk leaking out from where they sit on the board.

Likewise, it's often worth checking the low voltage caps in the PSU too.  
CAUTION!  Lots of volts exist in places inside them, take care, leave it 
a few mins after unplugging before taking it apart.

If so, it's not uncommon, you'll need to re-cap the Mobo, and or the PSU.  
Chances are, it's just one particular make/type that has failed, so if 
the others look OK, just change the failed ones.  Get the same value and 
voltage, but if you can from a reputable manufaturer, Panasonic or some 
such.

NOTE!  It's not uncommon either, for some parts to be installed at 
manufature the wrong way round.  It's amazing they last as long as they 
do before letting go.  Also, at least one Mobo maker had the wrong 
polarity markings on the board.  In those cases, you'll need to "buzz 
out" the associated power rail, comparing the polarity of the suspect 
part, with it's copanions on the same power rail.

For some common Mobo's, if you google the model number, you'll find 
websites selling complete re-cap kits, or offering an exchange service.

This is A LOT more common, than failing RAM, but can present itself in 
many and varied ways, from corrupted display's, to systems that wont 
boot.  Laptops are not immune to this either.

Also, Hard Drives can "go funny" with age, not failing as such, but the 
surface getting corrupted so that the drives own logic cant always 
unscramble the mess to the OS's satisfaction.

Then, there is the situation (I had one recently) where a failing PSU, 
caused Hard Drive data corruption.

Mr Gibson's product "Spinrite" is the tool to use to fix that (and it 
did!)  Not free, but more than worth the weight of a CD, Floppy or USB 
stick in Gold!  But you'll need to make sure the Mobo and everything else 
is OK.   It also works on Floppy drives, if you "Just HAVE" to recover 
that data.   If you have a fleet of machines, you should have your own 
copy.   No affiliation, just a more than happy long term owner/user of 
that tool.   (www.grc.com)

I've resurected more than one "Sick" PC by following some or all of the  
above, there again, I can wield a soldering iron with the best of them, 
and have the test gear to hand to fault find these things, and a source 
of parts.   But it saves a shed load of money if you can afford the time 
to do it...

Hope something helps.

Best Regards.

Dave B.

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Problem with ntfs and fusesf since upgrade to 9.0

2012-01-15 Thread Dave Morgan
Hi,

After upgrading from 8.2 to 9.0 I get the following and I am unable to access 
my external ntfs usb drive.

KLD fuse.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch
kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: File exists

All ports were rebuilt with "portupgrade -af" and the sources do match the 
kernel.

Have I done something wrong or is this a known problem or bug?

uname -a
9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 
r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386

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Re: Installing free bsd

2011-12-13 Thread Dave
> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It
> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it.
> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup.
> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems?
> 
> 

Daniel..

The "Windows format" has nothing to do with the problem.

You need to take the .ISO image files, and burn a CD from it, not extract 
or copy it to a CD..

For Windows, I use this:-
http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm   It works very well, and the price 
is right (free.)  Very easy to use.

If you already have "Nero Buring Rom" installed, that will also take a 
.ISO file, and use it to burn a CD.  Slightly more complex to use, but 
does a good job.  (You need to select "Burn an image to disk" option, 
then go look for the .ISO file to use, it's not the default!)

There are many similar tools for the job, but just unzipping the file to 
a cd will not make a bootable disk.

Contrary to what some have said, Windows (certainly XP and earlier) do 
not recognise the .ISO format natively, so no ammount of clicking or 
double clicking on it will help.

You do of course, also have to configure your PC's bios to boot from a 
CD, or know the hotkey to interupt it's normal boot sequence, and tell it 
to boot from an alternative drive.

Hope this helps.

Regards.

Dave B.



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RE: 9.0 install and journaling

2011-12-10 Thread Robison, Dave

>True. But as a new user it was the separate partitions that attracted
>me, having been burned with linux's megaroot. And a new user would have
>trouble setting up the partitions. Not to mention the break with
>tradition (what is happening to this world)! :)

I prefer having separate partitions because it's more in line with traditional 
unix systems, and in particular, I don't like letting users have unlimited 
access to /tmp.

/tmp isn't a place for people to dump their downloads, large file copies, etc. 
They should do that in their home directories. Having one big partition only 
allows people to abuse /tmp, among other things.

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Re: Free BSD Website Question

2011-12-01 Thread Robison, Dave

On 12/01/2011 12:17, Frank wrote:

Hey Julian,

Thanks for the kind response - rough crowd :)




Some people on certain lists should just add the phrase "Wanna fight!?" 
to their signatures.


We're not all like that.



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Re: [OT] but concerns all of us

2011-11-17 Thread Dave U . Random
> My assessment is still being built so thanks for sharing your thoughts on 
> this, Jerry

Not that I paid attention to the proposal, because I decided a few decades
ago governments were the root of all evil and nothing they do is for
anybody's good. There isn't enough time in the universe to read and object
to all the new draconian laws. The business of legislative bodies should be
to constantly repeal bad laws instead of making new bad ones.

But I digest...

> By controlling the root servers, they could blacklist anything.

They already p0wned the root servers. Look at the Microsoft case. The
federales went into private server farms and set up their own boxes. You
think anything goes through American backbones and the guys in black suits
with no sense of humor don't know about it, and can't reroute it or DOS it
or make funny things happen already? Wake up and smell the Constitution
burning.

The Homeland Insecurity fascists strip search innocent citizens not accused
of any crime (to hell with the Bill of Rights) and they (DHS) have already
taken over hundreds of domains because they (DHS) accused the domain owner
of running a website that sells forgeries of legitimate products like
handbags, iphones, etc. No court case, no grand jury, no due process. Just
gimme gimme gimme. I'm the government, get out of my way or I'll kill you or
I'll confiscate everything you own and then I'll kill you.

> Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright?

There are too many laws now to protect anything.

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Re: ntpdate on boot problem

2011-11-07 Thread Robison, Dave

On 11/05/2011 14:52, Robert Simmons wrote:

Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working
before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address?

After setting ntpdate_enable="YES" in rc.conf, I get the following
error on boot:

Setting date via ntp.
Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org

Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org

Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known
  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org

  5 Nov 17:11:05
ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting

I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to
use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf.  However, this box is using
a static IP address.  But the problem seems to be similar.

Rob
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I believe the easiest answer to your question is to do the following in 
/etc/rc.conf:


netwait_enable="YES"
netwait_ip="$defaultrouter"

This will cause your interface to wait until it can ping the default router.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2010-June/001987.html

Enjoy,

Dave


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Re: CARP related trivial question

2011-10-26 Thread Robison, Dave

On 10/26/2011 12:20, Snoop wrote:

Hi everybody,
I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented.

In the CARP man pages is clearly stated
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html:
__
"To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as
described in Chapter 9 with the following option:
device carp

Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the
following line to the /boot/loader.conf:
if_carp_load="YES" "
__

I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not
while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on
loader.conf.
I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that
working on any node.
I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1.

Am I missing something?
Any tip would be appreciated.



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Does if_carp.ko exist under /boot/kernel/ ?

If so:
[root@lefty] ~# ls -lart /boot/kernel | grep if_carp
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel197392 Feb 16  2011 if_carp.ko.symbols
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 44336 Feb 16  2011 if_carp.ko
[root@lefty] ~# kldload if_carp.ko
[root@lefty] ~# kldstat | grep if_carp.ko
47    1 0xffff814fe000 4dd0 if_carp.ko
[root@lefty] ~#

should work.

Dave



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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Dave Pooser
On 10/19/11 9:14 AM, "Albert Shih"  wrote:

>When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800 card on the server

No, you need a card that includes 2 external x4 SFF8088 SAS connectors.
I'd recommend an LSI SAS 9200-8e HBA flashed with the IT firmware-- then
it presents the individual disks and ZFS can handle redundancy and
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Re: ZFS Write Lockup

2011-10-05 Thread Dave Cundiff
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Staal  wrote:
> --As of October 4, 2011 2:43:45 AM -0400, Dave Cundiff is alleged to have
> said:
>
>> I don't know what triggers the problem but I know how to fix it. If I
>> perform a couple snapshot deletes the IO will come back in line every
>> single time. Fortunately I have LOTS of snapshots to delete.
>>
>> [root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t snapshot | wc -l
>>    5236
>> [root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t volume | wc -l
>>      17
>
> --As for the rest, it is mine.
>
> I have no good advice, but I have a thought.  ;)
>
> The thought is: Why so many snapshots?  And: How many other people have that
> many snapshots?  I know that ZFS is supposed to be able to handle huge
> numbers of snapshots (far more than a few thousand, from my understanding),
> but if it hasn't been used much in that config, there may be bugs lurking.
>
> You might try weeding through and figuring out if you can drop a good amount
> of those snapshots.  Also, try the filesystems list.  They may have better
> thoughts.
>
> Daniel T. Staal
>

Its for a backup service I've been working on. It takes a snapshot
hourly of all 17 zvols. I was planning on keeping them for a month.

I had the same thought about the snapshots and deleted them all
yesterday. It appears there is some issue with keeping that many. I
removed them all and the zvols are now functioning correctly. Its
strange that the large number didn't cause incremental slowdown. While
the snapshots were still there the IO was normal when it wasn't acting
up. Just it would have spurts of almost total lockup until I performed
a snapshot removal operation or 2.

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Re: ZFS Write Lockup

2011-10-04 Thread Dave Cundiff
at.zfs.misc.arcstats.c: 16514222070
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_min: 2952790016
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_max: 23622320128
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size: 16514197960
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.hdr_size: 698646840
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.data_size: 13480204800
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.other_size: 222586112
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_hits: 236859220
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_misses: 440273314
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_feeds: 998879
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_rw_clash: 41492
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_read_bytes: 1523423294976
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_bytes: 2108729975808
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_sent: 908755
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_done: 908755
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_error: 0
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_writes_hdr_miss: 125029
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_evict_lock_retry: 78155
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_evict_reading: 52
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_free_on_write: 735076
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_abort_lowmem: 2368
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_cksum_bad: 9
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_io_error: 0
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_size: 88680833024
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_hdr_size: 2275280224
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.memory_throttle_count: 0
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_trylock_fail: 160181805
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_passed_headroom: 48073379
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_spa_mismatch: 0
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_in_l2: 101326826532
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_io_in_progress: 3016312
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_not_cacheable: 16631379447
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_full: 158541
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_iter: 998879
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_pios: 908755
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_bytes_scanned: 881025143301120
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_list_iter: 62580701
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.l2_write_buffer_list_null_iter: 2040782
kstat.zfs.misc.vdev_cache_stats.delegations: 2167916
kstat.zfs.misc.vdev_cache_stats.hits: 2801310
kstat.zfs.misc.vdev_cache_stats.misses: 5448597

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Dave Cundiff  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running 8.2-RELEASE and running into an IO lockup on ZFS that is
> happening pretty regularly. The system is stock except for the
> following set in loader.conf
>
> vm.kmem_size="30G"
> vfs.zfs.arc_max="22G"
> kern.hz=100
>
> I know the kmem settings aren't SUPPOSED to be necessary now, buy my
> ZFS boxes were crashing until I added them. The machine has 24 gigs of
> RAM. The kern.hz=100 was to stretch out the l2arc bug that pops up at
> 28days with it set to 1000.
>
> [root@san2 ~]# zpool status
>  pool: san
>  state: ONLINE
>  scrub: none requested
> config:
>
>        NAME         STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>        san          ONLINE       0     0     0
>          da1        ONLINE       0     0     0
>        logs
>          mirror     ONLINE       0     0     0
>            ad6s1b   ONLINE       0     0     0
>            ad14s1b  ONLINE       0     0     0
>        cache
>          ad6s1d     ONLINE       0     0     0
>          ad14s1d    ONLINE       0     0     0
>
> errors: No known data errors
>
>
> Here's a zpool iostat from a machine in trouble.
>
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0  7.92K
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    447      0  5.77M
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    309      0  2.83M
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T     62      0  2.22M      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      2      0  23.5K
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    254      0  6.62M
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    249      0  3.16M
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T     34      0   491K      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      6      0  62.7K
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0     85      0  6.59M
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    452      0  4.88M
> san         9.08T  3.55T    109      0  3.12M      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0  7.84K
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    434      0  6.41M
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0      0      0      0
> san         9.08T  3.55T      0    304      0  2.90M
> san         9.08T  3.55T     37      0   628K      0
>
> Its supposed to look like
>
> san         9.07T  3.56T    162    167  3.75M  6.09M
> san         9.07T  3.56T      5      0  47.4K      0
> san         9.07T  3.56T     19      0   213K      0
> san         9.07T  3.56T    120      0  3.26M      0
> san         9.07T  3.56T  

ZFS Write Lockup

2011-10-04 Thread Dave Cundiff
Hi,

I'm running 8.2-RELEASE and running into an IO lockup on ZFS that is
happening pretty regularly. The system is stock except for the
following set in loader.conf

vm.kmem_size="30G"
vfs.zfs.arc_max="22G"
kern.hz=100

I know the kmem settings aren't SUPPOSED to be necessary now, buy my
ZFS boxes were crashing until I added them. The machine has 24 gigs of
RAM. The kern.hz=100 was to stretch out the l2arc bug that pops up at
28days with it set to 1000.

[root@san2 ~]# zpool status
  pool: san
 state: ONLINE
 scrub: none requested
config:

NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
san  ONLINE   0 0 0
  da1ONLINE   0 0 0
logs
  mirror ONLINE   0 0 0
ad6s1b   ONLINE   0 0 0
ad14s1b  ONLINE   0 0 0
cache
  ad6s1d ONLINE   0 0 0
  ad14s1dONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors


Here's a zpool iostat from a machine in trouble.

san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  7.92K
san 9.08T  3.55T  0447  0  5.77M
san 9.08T  3.55T  0309  0  2.83M
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T 62  0  2.22M  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  2  0  23.5K
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0254  0  6.62M
san 9.08T  3.55T  0249  0  3.16M
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T 34  0   491K  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  6  0  62.7K
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0 85  0  6.59M
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0452  0  4.88M
san 9.08T  3.55T109  0  3.12M  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  7.84K
san 9.08T  3.55T  0434  0  6.41M
san 9.08T  3.55T  0  0  0  0
san 9.08T  3.55T  0304  0  2.90M
san 9.08T  3.55T 37  0   628K  0

Its supposed to look like

san 9.07T  3.56T162167  3.75M  6.09M
san 9.07T  3.56T  5  0  47.4K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 19  0   213K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T120  0  3.26M  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 92  0   741K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T114  0  2.86M  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 72  0   579K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 14  0   118K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 24  0   213K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 25  0   324K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T  8  0   126K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 28  0   505K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 15  0   126K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 11  0   158K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 19  0   356K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T198  0  3.55M  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 21  0   173K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 18  0   150K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 23  0   260K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T  9  0  78.3K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 21  0   173K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T  2  4.59K  16.8K   142M
san 9.07T  3.56T 12  0   103K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 26454   312K  4.35M
san 9.07T  3.56T111  0  3.34M  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 28  0   870K  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 75  0  3.88M  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 43  0  1.22M  0
san 9.07T  3.56T 26  0   270K  0

I don't know what triggers the problem but I know how to fix it. If I
perform a couple snapshot deletes the IO will come back in line every
single time. Fortunately I have LOTS of snapshots to delete.

[root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t snapshot | wc -l
5236
[root@san2 ~]# zfs list -r -t volume | wc -l
  17

Being fairly new to FreeBSD and ZFS I'm pretty clueless on where to
begin tracking this down. I've been staring at gstat trying to see if
a zvol is getting a big burst of writes that may be flooding the drive
controller but I haven't caught anything yet. top -S -H shows
zio_write_issue threads consuming massive amounts of CPU during the
lockup. Normally they sit around 5-10%.  Any suggestions on where I
could start to track this down would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

-- 
Dave Cundiff
System Administrator
A2Hosting, Inc
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Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ]

2011-09-23 Thread Dave
From:   "Matt Emmerton" 

> 
> 
> > but i've been doing this for a while, and
> > until i was away for five days, everything had been going
> > fine for over a month.  oh:: one power-out.  the UPS saved
> > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized.
> 
> A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS
> for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network
> equipment.
> 

I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable, 
that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS.  Said UPS also 
powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD 
based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device.

It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the 
longest unscheduled outage so far.)  It's also configured to NOT come 
back, if it runs down and cuts out.  I'll do that manually if needed.  
(Not so far.)  I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly.

All works well.  Also, easy to do a router "Hard" restart, without going 
to the router itself.   And if it does all die, it fails safe.

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-20 Thread Dave Pooser
On 8/20/11 4:38 PM, "Adam Vande More"  wrote:

>freebsd-update works quite well and quickly on systems with a custom
>kernel with the additional caveat you *should* rebuild and install the
>kernel afterward, and even this isn't always necessary.  This is assuming
>you're on RELEASE or some BETA.

An honest question here-- how many people run production servers on
RELEASE, never mind BETA? Mine has been running on STABLE, first 8.1 and
then 8.2.

I hold no brief for the original poster; I think he probably was trolling.
I'm pretty sure Vadim Goncharov was NOT trolling on freebsd-arch when he
wrote the message Test Rat referenced
<http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html>.
And guess what his post listed as the biggest hinderance to wider adoption?

===
> 1. Social (psychologic) problems of community (marketing, docs, ...).

This is the most important one, because all technical problems are just
won't get solved because are even not viewed as problems. The FreeBSD
Project does not listen to users' needs. The typical response when poor
user want something is: "we don't need this, we won't change for you",
with "where are your patches?" at best. Then many users go out when see
such attitude toward them.

The key points are:

 1) *The competent user is not zealot*.
 2) The system is *for users, not for developers*.

===

I probably would have been wiser not to respond to this thread at all;
once the OP threw the bait out there people were bound to get angry and
defensive. But Vadim's post resonated with me, as he covered many of the
reasons I'd decided to retire FreeBSD in my company, so I figured I'd add
one more perspective.
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Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-20 Thread Dave Pooser
On 8/20/11 1:09 PM, "Michael Sierchio"  wrote:

>Are you lazy, or stupid?  man freebsd-update

You know, someone more clever than you might have read enough of the
message to realize that since I specifically referenced DTrace support as
a FreeBSD advantage, I would have to be using a custom kernel, which
pretty much kills the freebsd-update advantage.

Add a modicum of self awareness and you might also realize that you're the
poster child for the original poster's point 5, "Hostile Community."
Frankly, I don't give that argument against the FreeBSD community a ton of
weight because *every* technical mailing list has some bitter losers with
no social skills, but it might be food for thought, if you ever do that
sort of thing.
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Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-20 Thread Dave Pooser
On 8/20/11 1:49 AM, "Test Rat"  wrote:

>There is an ongoing discussion on arch@ about this.
>
>  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html

Thanks for posting that link; it covered some of the reasons I'm retiring
my office FreeBSD servers in favor of Solaris and Linux.

My own take:

1) I really don't see the Handbook as all that great. It's great that a
volunteer team put it together, but when I compare it to
<https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/> or
<http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19963-01/index.html>, I don't think
the FreeBSD handbook compares well.

2) Lack of geek-on-the-street support. If I'm looking for an experienced
Linux administrator, I'll get thousands of applications; for a Solaris
administrator, I'll get hundreds. For a BSD admin? Maybe half a dozen?

3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, but
that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be more
difficult than "yum update" -- full stop.

4) Poor support from running FreeBSD under virtualization. When I start to
think about deploying a new server, I'll generally spin up a new VM on my
workstation or on an ESXi host. If I have trouble with that VM, my first
response is not going to be to try again with the same OS, it's going to
be to fall back to a configuration I know works.

There are some things I liked a lot about FreeBSD -- its support for
DTrace and ZFS was the reason I looked into it in the first place. But
from where I sit, technologies like that are just duct-taped on to the
base system rather than integrated. (For example, why isn't there
something like the [Open]Solaris beadm, where the system creates a ZFS
snapshot automatically before any major updates to let you revert to not
just an earlier kernel but an earlier world?)

Just my $.02.
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Re: How to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server

2011-08-14 Thread dave jones
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe  wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:46:34 +0800
> dave jones  wrote:
>
> I rearrange your mail and post bottom to enable others to have a look.
>
>>On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe  wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:49:42 +0800
>>> dave jones  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I cat get an IP address from dhcp server by adding the line
>>>> in /etc/rc.conf:
>>>>
>>>> ifconfig_em0="DHCP"
>>>>
>>>> If I move my laptop to another place, I have to manually run
>>>> "dhclient em0" to get an IP. Otherwise, it won't get an IP
>>>> automatically.
>>>>
>>>> My question is it's possible to get ip address automatically from
>>>> different dhcp server? thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave.
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>>> Have a look at /etc/devd.conf. Mine include a portion
>>>
>>> #
>>> # Try to start dhclient on Ethernet like interfaces when the link comes
>>> # up.  Only devices that are configured to support DHCP will actually
>>> # run it.  No link down rule exists because dhclient automaticly exits
>>> # when the link goes down.
>>> #
>>> notify 0 {
>>>        match "system"          "IFNET";
>>>        match "type"            "LINK_UP";
>>>        media-type              "ethernet";
>>>        action "/etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstart $subsystem";
>>> };
>>> #
>>> notify 0 {
>>>        match "system"          "IFNET";
>>>        match "type"            "LINK_DOWN";
>>>        media-type              "ethernet";
>>>        action "/etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstop $subsystem ; ifconfig 
>>> $subsystem inet 0.0.0.0";
>>> };
>>>
>>> I am under the impression that this rule does what you want to do.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> --
>>> Christopher J. Ruwe
>>> TZ GMT + 2
>>>
>
>> Hi Christopher,
>>
>> Thanks for your solution. It does help a lot, but there's one problem.
>> For example, DHCP server is not started for some reason and my computer's
>> ethernet cable is plugged. Once dhcp server started, I can't get the IP 
>> unless
>> I unplug and then plug the ethernet cable. Do you know how to solve
>> this issue? Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave.
>>
>
> Ok. To check whether I understand what you are saying: Your computer is 
> running, but an external DHCP-server is not. Your computer tries to get an IP 
> from the external DHCP server, which is down, so dhclient is unsuccessful. 
> You then kick the DHCP-server back to live and then you have to plug in and 
> out to get an IP?

Right. I'm sorry for the confusion.

> Assuming I understand correctly, that is exactly what should happen. You see, 
> normally DHCP-servers don't flood the network with "Hello all dhclients, I am 
> dhcp-server, please tell me if you need an IP", usually the opposite 
> direction is in order as in "hello dhcp-server, I am dhclient, I need an IP, 
> please give me one".
> You now have two options: 1) You coerce a manual request be running dhclient. 
> 2) You plug in and out, which runs dhclient as you have configured to do so 
> in your devd.conf.
> Of course you can set the retry-time for dhclient (see `man dhclient`) to an 
> absurldly low threshold, so you are saved doing the dhcp-discover-procedure 
> manually. It is, however, dubious, whether you want to do so. It might be a 
> smarter way to fix that DHCP-server of yours.

Thank you for the clear explanation. I will add "retry 10" in
dhclient.conf and give it a try.
I'm wondering if net/ifstated will work in this case. I'll give it a
shot as well.
Thanks again!

> Hope to have been of some help here,
> cheers
> --
> Christopher J. Ruwe
> TZ GMT + 2
>

Regards,
Dave.
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Re: How to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server

2011-08-11 Thread dave jones
Hi Christopher,

Thanks for your solution. It does help a lot, but there's one problem.
For example, DHCP server is not started for some reason and my computer's
ethernet cable is plugged. Once dhcp server started, I can't get the IP unless
I unplug and then plug the ethernet cable. Do you know how to solve
this issue? Thank you.

Regards,
Dave.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe  wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:49:42 +0800
> dave jones  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I cat get an IP address from dhcp server by adding the line
>> in /etc/rc.conf:
>>
>> ifconfig_em0="DHCP"
>>
>> If I move my laptop to another place, I have to manually run
>> "dhclient em0" to get an IP. Otherwise, it won't get an IP
>> automatically.
>>
>> My question is it's possible to get ip address automatically from
>> different dhcp server? thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave.
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>
> Have a look at /etc/devd.conf. Mine include a portion
>
> #
> # Try to start dhclient on Ethernet like interfaces when the link comes
> # up.  Only devices that are configured to support DHCP will actually
> # run it.  No link down rule exists because dhclient automaticly exits
> # when the link goes down.
> #
> notify 0 {
>        match "system"          "IFNET";
>        match "type"            "LINK_UP";
>        media-type              "ethernet";
>        action "/etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstart $subsystem";
> };
> #
> notify 0 {
>        match "system"          "IFNET";
>        match "type"            "LINK_DOWN";
>        media-type              "ethernet";
>        action "/etc/rc.d/dhclient quietstop $subsystem ; ifconfig $subsystem 
> inet 0.0.0.0";
> };
>
> I am under the impression that this rule does what you want to do.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Christopher J. Ruwe
> TZ GMT + 2
>
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How to get ip address automatically from different dhcp server

2011-07-26 Thread dave jones
Hi,

I cat get an IP address from dhcp server by adding the line in /etc/rc.conf:

ifconfig_em0="DHCP"

If I move my laptop to another place, I have to manually run "dhclient em0"
to get an IP. Otherwise, it won't get an IP automatically.

My question is it's possible to get ip address automatically from different
dhcp server? thanks.

Regards,
Dave.
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Question about regular expressions

2011-07-20 Thread dave jones
Hi,

I have a config file below:

$user=   'root';   // This is the username

if $user is found, I want to display root.
Anyone knows how to programming in C or some other language? thank you.

Regards,
Dave.
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Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Robison, Dave
Using primarily FreeBSD, and in fact, still FreeBSD 4.11 (we are in the 
process of upgrading to 8.x now), our systems moved well over 1.6 
trillion dollars in business to business financial transactions last year.

I'd hardly call that irrelevant.



On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote:
> While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of
> juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather
> interesting post this morning.
>
> "Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore"
>
> <http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/Lennart-Poettering-BSD-Isnt-Relevant-Anymore>
>
> Interestingly enough, a great deal of it is true. It might be
> interesting to know how others feel about it. Obviously, asking that
> question on this forum is like playing against a stacked deck; however,
> it still might prove interesting.
>


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Re: SAS controller for FreeBSD

2011-06-25 Thread Dave Pooser
On 6/25/11 3:47 PM, "Daniel Feenberg"  wrote:

>All the cards on the LSI website that I can find using the SAS2008 chipset
>include the sentence "Integrated RAID avoids additional host CPU overhead"
>in their brief description, even the ones labeled "HBA".

There are two different firmware options. The "IT" firmware disables the
integrated RAID and makes them true HBAs; the "IR" firmware activates the
integrated RAID. Buy the cards, flash 'em with the IT firmware and you're
good to go.
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Re: Point me to resource or user info

2011-06-21 Thread Dave

> and the Freebsd installer guide
> http://www.a1poweruser.com/
> 

Hmmm...  Wish I'd known about that a while back.  It's more or less 
exactly what I've been looking for, a realy good "how to" guide for 
F'BSD.

The only thing missing (had a quick look!) is details on Jails (they are 
mentioned, but you are pointed back at the Handbook..)

However..  I've learnt something else already (Using mouse copy/paste 
function) so thanks very much for that site.  Very good for us less (in 
F'BSD at least) experienced types.

Cheers..

DaveB


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Re: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-17 Thread Dave
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:09:30 -0500
> Gary Gatten  wrote:
> 
> > It's quite simple really, it's another hidden tax - "Redistribution
> > of RAM".  You see, even with all the entitlement programs "poor"
> > people can't afford more than 512MB of RAM.  As you are certainly
> > aware that's not enough to watch YouTube and Hulu on their
> > government funded (tax payer funded) ultra high speed internet
> > connections.  So, the government has taken some of your RAM (as you
> > obviously can afford to buy more if needed) and will give it to
> > those who really NEED it - so while they sit around collecting
> > government aid (tax payer earnings) their streaming video's will
> > play smoothly.
> 
> What! I didn't even vote for those guys. :-)
> > 
> > Woa - I guess I digressed a bit...
> > 
> > Ummm, sorry - I don't know why this would be.  Is there some memory
> > mapped video (or disk controller?) stealing RAM?
> > 
> I guess I wasn't clear. Only 2752 MB is show during POST instead 0f
> 4096. It has always shown 4096 on this MB.
> 
> Thanks for lighting up my day with the above humor. :-)
> 
> Robert
> 
> 

What does Memtest86 show, if you try running that?

I've had issues in the past where one stick has a single bad bit (in a 
512M stick) that caused all sorts of strange things with the BIOS, but 
not the OS!..   Memtest86 (eventually) found it, testing 1 stick at a 
time in each of 4 slots.   Took ages...

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Re: ftp installation

2011-06-13 Thread Dave
On 12 Jun 2011 at 4:32, Bill Tillman wrote:

>
> 
> From: Daniel Feenberg 
> Subject: Re: ftp installation
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with
> >> both 7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation
> >> proceeds for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on
> >> the console always being:
> >>
> >>  DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file.
> >>
> ...
> >>
> >> Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see
> >> a way to monitor what is happening.
> >
> > Your firewall may be interfering with the connection.  You may want
> > to read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the
> > bottom of the page):
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-me
> > dia.html
> >
>
> Well, our router has never interfered with ftp transfers done from the
> command line, but switching to the firewall-friendly mode in
> sysinstall does fix the problem.
>
> Thank you
> Daniel Feenberg
> NBER
>
>
> If I recall correctly I had to open up my firewall completely to get
> the ftp installations to work. I use a FreeBSD diskless router running
> IPFW+NATD and the log files are set to max out at 5 so I can't see
> which port is trying to be used which gets blocked. So just for the 10
> minutes or so to do an FTP install I just open the firewall wide and
> allow any to any. Once the install is complete I close the firewall
> again.
>
>

That's why "Passive" (or PASV) mode is included in FTP.  It only ever
makes outgoing connections from a client.  99.9% of all routers/firewalls
will honour that mode with no probems, unless it's been specifically
blocked by an admin type somewhere.

In the F'BSD install/update settings/dialogs etc, always select the
option to use FTP from behind a firewall or router, or "Firewall
Friendly" mode.  That will invoke Passive mode transfers.

It's the one thing I can do reliably with FreeBSD, no need to mess with
router/firewall permissions etc.   That only needs doing if you want to
run a server that is reachable from outside your LAN.  That in turn,
opens a whole oil drum load (i.e. a big can of worms!) of potential
security issues

Take care.

DaveB

PS:  Worth looking at, for a good, if lenghty explanation.
http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html


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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 8 Jun 2011 at 0:53, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

> > and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports 
> > sources..   How do I confirm that, 
> 
> cd /usr/src  
> make clean ; make cleandir ; make clean   # gets rid of obj
> du -s -k
>  547684  .

"cant cd to /usr/src/share/info
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /urs/src.
You have new mail.
(Contents of the mail is the usual sustem/security stuff)

I figure something else is missing, so didn't bother with anything else.

 Dave B


> 
> find . -type d -print | wc
>  47344734  119623
> 
> cd /usr/ports
> du -s -k
>  477244  .
> 
> find . -type d -print | wc
> 31883   31883  704477
> 
> 
> > are there trace logs kept somewhere?
> 
> Not that I'm aware of, but I dont use sysinstall beyond minimum
> installs, (I get my src/ & ports/ from my cvs tree which is delivered
> by ctm from mail)
>  cvs -Q -R export -r RELENG_8_2_0_RELEASE src   # du=548 M tgz=115 M
>  cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0  ports   # du=475 M tgz= 49 M
>  cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0  doc # du=100 M tgz= 27 M
> 
> Cheers,
> Julian
> -- 
> Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich
> http://berklix.com
>  Reply below, not above;  indent with "> ";  Cumulative like a play
>  script. Send plain text format;  Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not
>  base 64.
> 
> 


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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 7 Jun 2011 at 15:23, Jerry wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:53:13 +0100
> Dave  articulated:
>
> > There is at the same time, not enough detailed info as to "how to",
> > and way too much detail of what there is.   The Man pages are good
> > references, but lousy "how to's"...   (Sorry.)
>
> Many knowledgeable people consider "man" to simple be an acronym for,
> "Much About Nothing". In any case, I assume you have read the
> documentation @: <http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html>
>
> Perhaps you could list a few of the steps you have taken to a achieve
> your goal.
>
> --
> Jerry
> jerry+f...@seibercom.net

Hi.

I was, as I found later, following this...
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html

But it failed at step 2, with "dont know how to make ...  Stop" etc...

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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 7 Jun 2011 at 12:10, Chuck Swiger wrote:

> On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Dave wrote:
> > For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how "Exactly" to
> > create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD
> > V8.x
> 
> Did you start with the Handbook?
> 
>   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html
>   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html
> 

Yes, I have been there many times.  It must be me, because I do not find 
it much if any help.   "Cant see the wood for all the trees" or 
something.

Like I said, the handbook  is a good "Reference", but not a "How To".

Plus, once I've gone and clicked on a few of the refereal links, it's way 
too easy to loose the plot, or ones place in the overall scheme of 
things..


> You might also consider sysutils/ezjail; see:
> 
>   http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail
> 
> [ ... ]
> > I have (aledgedly) downloaded the Sys sources, and Ports.   At least
> > it sat there for ages after fumbling arround the sysinstall menu
> > system (whoever designed that should be forced to use it!  It's
> > behaviour is apalling, flitting from one context to another with no
> > warning, in a way such that you can't see what you've selected,
> > without affecting the selection, or something else..)
> > 
> > Anyway, trying to follow various instructions I found, and those
> > pointed out to me by other helpful souls here (thanks Kaya and
> > Peter.)  But Whatever I do, I get a "Don't know how to build world.
> > Stop" error.
> > 
> > I am logged in as root, and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and
> > ports sources..   How do I confirm that, are there trace logs kept
> > somewhere?
> 
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html

As Andy and Kaya pointed out, I was missing the Base sources.  As at some 
point, while fighting with the sysinstall menu system, the Base selection 
got un-selected.

I think I have them now, but have not yet re-tried a build or make.

> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> -Chuck
> 

Thanks.

Dave B.

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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 7 Jun 2011 at 21:03, Jack Raats wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> > Hi All.
> > 
> > Total frustration here.  Before I incinerate the luckless box and
> > get my coat.
> > 
> > For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how "Exactly" to
> > create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD
> > V8.x
> 
> First compile the complete system. (kernel and world)
> Then install ezjail form the ports
> 
> Then edit ezjail.conf in /usr/local/etc
> enable ezjail in /etc/rc.conf
> 
> Then creating the base system:
> ezjail-admin update -i
> ezjail-admin update -P
> 
> after this you can create a jail using:
> 
> ezjail-admin create hostname.domain.net ip_address_of_jail
> 
> you can logon to your jail using:
> ezjail-admin console hostname.domain.net
> 
> It's quite easy
> 
> Grtz
> Jack

The problem is Jack, that build / make etc don't run.

Just saying "compile the complete system" is not much help, when as 
others have pointed out, part of the needed source collection is (was) 
missing.

Re: "It's quite easy".   Only when you know how!

Dave B

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Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Dave
Hi All.

Total frustration here.  Before I incinerate the luckless box and get my 
coat.

For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how "Exactly" to create 
and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD V8.x

There is at the same time, not enough detailed info as to "how to", and 
way too much detail of what there is.   The Man pages are good 
references, but lousy "how to's"...   (Sorry.)

I have (aledgedly) downloaded the Sys sources, and Ports.   At least it 
sat there for ages after fumbling arround the sysinstall menu system 
(whoever designed that should be forced to use it!  It's behaviour is 
apalling, flitting from one context to another with no warning, in a way 
such that you can't see what you've selected, without affecting the 
selection, or something else..)

Anyway, trying to follow various instructions I found, and those pointed 
out to me by other helpful souls here (thanks Kaya and Peter.)  But 
Whatever I do, I get a "Don't know how to build world. Stop" error.

I am logged in as root, and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports 
sources..   How do I confirm that, are there trace logs kept somewhere?


Now, I can create EMC test software in high level languages 
(Pascal/Delphi on Windows.)   Assemble install commission and repair when 
needed, multi kW RF amplifiers, and related support systems.  Diagnose 
faults on the same, modify control software (at the source level) to work 
arround some "undesirable features" etc etc.

I've also been building computers (and other tech stuff) for decades from 
components, and programming them to do what I need etc and so forth, but 
all in either native asembler code, or a higher level language on Dos or 
Windows.


I even found and followed these instructions, and got a GPS Diciplined 
NTP server running on the FreeBSD box.  (After my ISP comprehensivly 
wrecked their NTP server access.)  So a HF Radio propagation monitor can 
keep time to sub ms accuracy.

That was a first time success too, even re-compiling the kernel to enable 
PPS support!
http://blog.doylenet.net/?p=145
So, I can follow instructions..  :-)

I have even got the Meinberg port of NTP to work on an aged Win2k box, 
albeit with some help from others.

But for the life of me, I can't figure out this BSD Jail stuff, as there 
is something missing from my understanding of it all.  (Most of it I 
suspect...)

None of the searches so far have thrown up a definative "This is how you 
do it" type of procedure, with step by step "do this, if this happens, 
then do that, else go do this..."  type of structure.   And more 
importantly *Why* it needs to be done in such a way.  Kaya's wiki is 
close, but I must have a different varient of V8.x

Is there anyone out there with Skype (for example) who could perhaps talk 
me through this it in real time I wonder.  By arangment of some mutually 
conveninent time and date (evening or weekend.)  I'm, in the UK near 
Milton Keynes, so that limits things somewhat I suspect.

I realy do want to learn how to do all this, but I'm having a real hard 
time, due to the lack of contiguious time available to me, and with the 
available documentation, that I accept is correct, but it is all written 
as a reference document, not an instruction/user manual, only compounded 
by coming in cold from another background (Hardware/Dos(Assembler & 
Basic)/Windows(Delphi/Pascal)

What I have learnt so far, is that (for the most part) all the BSD's 
behave and work much the same.  Unlike the hoards of different Linux's, 
all with their different ways of doing things.

Spleen vented, anyone want a challenge?  I promise not to shout at you...

Cheers All..

Dave B.




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Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error

2011-06-06 Thread Dave
On 5 Jun 2011 at 16:55, Michael Powell wrote:

> per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > Power supplies do fail occasionally, and not always in obvious
> > ways such as failing to turn on at all.  The output voltages may be
> > a little too high or too low, or they may be correct but with
> > excessive ripple or electrical noise; or the supply may be just fine
> > until a disk draws a current spike to move the arm rapidly.
> 
> I've seen a fair number or power supplies degrade somewhere around the
> 5 year mark. Simple voltage checks with a VOM and its accuracy will
> usually still show the voltages as being correct. To see the ripple
> you'll need an oscilloscope. Excessive ripple can make a PC appear to
> have all kinds of intermittent hardware failures with little or no
> rhyme or reason. A degraded power supply will show large variations in
> ripple based on load. The largest load from hard drives is when they
> are first spinning up. Servers are commonly configured with the
> ability to spin up drives one at a time with a short delay in between.
> You won't usually find this on a desktop. 
> 
> Generally, this situation will develop more often on an old machine
> that had a 'barely enough' capacity power supply when new. Add 3 more
> hard drives, bigger video, etc and it was still just inside the
> envelope until enough time went by and the power supply got old. Since
> the most amps pulled by the hard drives occurs on power up you will
> see the ripple on  a 'scope look really ugly while this happens. The
> unseen danger here is that bits on the drive(s) can get scrambled
> until things settle down. You will know this happens when stuff goes
> wrong and fsck is needed to get the file system clean, and after
> cleaning and working again will do the same thing again at some future
> reboot.
> 
> Easiest way to look at this without a 'scope is to simply substitute a
> known good PSU of sufficient rating from a machine with no troubles.
> If all the random nonsense suddenly stops, you'll know. This is
> easiest for folks these days as those without an analog electronics
> background are unlikely to have an oscilloscope laying around. 
> 
> > It might be worth checking the fan mounted on the CPU heatsink if
> > there is one, and the fan in the power supply (which ventilates the
> > case as well as the power supply itself).
> 
> Aside from the fans themselves, dust buildup plugs heat sinks
> eventually drastically reducing their ability to get rid of heat. When
> you get to this stage blowing them out with canned air can work
> wonders. My 2 servers at home sit on the floor and need this about
> once a year.
> 
> -Mike
> 

Hi..

I've recently replaced all the 3.3V decoupling caps on a 7 year old 
Compaq mobo, that was showing all sorts of odd behaviour, more (at first 
glance) related to the video card.  It wasn't expensive, but was time 
consuming even for me as a skilled electronics tech, with more years of 
soldering iron time than I care to admit, it took me a good couple of 
hours!  These things aren't made to be easily repaired, but it can be 
done.  In fact, for some common mobo's you can buy complete re-cap kits 
with all the right parts.  Same for all sorts of other consumer 
electronics.  (DVD players, Games consoles, DTV and other set-top boxes 
etc.)

As a result, that box now runs sweet as a nut.  Passing all diags with 
flying colours, even when hot.

Any caps that have a bulging top, on the mobo or in the PSU, need 
changing.  Idealy for the same value and voltage.  But you can go higher 
(within reason) in value, but don't go too high in voltage rating, as 
they can deteriorate if they don't have enough volts, and start to fail 
early again.

Re the PSU thing.   Don't get fooled into the common lore that bigger is 
better.   You can have too big a PSU that will fail to regulate the 
auxilary output lines correctly until you add extra load to it's main 
output.  Many PC supplies (sadly not all) do have a note to that effect 
on the ratings label.

For most Switch Mode supplies, they work best loaded to between half and 
full power on their main output.  Much less than 1/4 of their capability, 
and the auxilary outputs will start to "wander about" a bit, especially 
if the incoming line is a bit high in voltage.   Common symptoms are 
strange audiable noises from CD drives, or hard drives that struggle to 
start up, but are OK once working.

Yes, also keeping things clean and cool is a good move too.

Hope that helps someone.

Cheers.

Dave B.

PS:  I don't suppose anyone knows a real good simple blow by blow total 
newby dialog, as to how to realiably and correctly create and setup Jails 
on FreeBSD 8.0?   A

[direct] Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error

2011-06-05 Thread Dave
 just have to have their own copy.  I think I'm indirectly 
responsible for at least 4 extra sales, not that I get any commission, 
sadly...

Just like the Linux based recovery and self contained AV disks, and also 
Memtest86, I carry a copy of Spinrite arround with me too.

I just wish I could come up with something as successful, and able to 
continue selling over and over...

As for changing mobo caps, it's not dificult, but it sure takes a lot of 
time and care.  Cap's in PSU's too go bad (Usually the Low Voltage ones) 
again, not dificult to change, but take care.  There's often considerable 
High Voltage stored in some places, that can bite you, and it hurts!

Lastly, large slow running fans last the longest, and are nice and quiet 
too.  Just regularly blow the "dust bunnies" out of the systems (two or 
three time a year?) and keep things like the CPU cooler and PSU clean, 
and your hardware will work for many years just fine.

Oh..  CPU coolers.  If your system has the ability to monitor the CPU 
temperature, get to know how that behaves depending on the software you 
use.  If it starts to slowly rise, but the room temperature is not 
correspondinlgy warmer, also cleaning the dust from the cooler doenst 
seem to help.  It may need the cooler removing, the old heat transfer 
compound removing and cleaning, and fresh compound using when you refit 
the cooler.   This issues seems worse with the earlier single core P4's, 
that had a very small contact area to the cooler.

At least Intel chips just slow down as they get hotter (cycle skipping) 
so as not to burn out.   Some AMD's will destroy themselves if the cooler 
fails!...There is a YouTube video somewhere, showing a PC with an 
Intel CPU with no cooler getting slower and slower till it almost stops.

I hope you get things sorted out, one way or another.  Life is so much 
nicer if you don't have to keep messing with the blessed things!

I have a sick Land Rover to fix too.  Gearbox rear oil seal, also rear 
drive shaft UJ's.   At least I can use big hammers on that sometimes...   
(Therapy!)   Oh, the grass needs cutting, and I'm now also under 
instruction to change the bed, when the cat's finished sleeping on it!!!

Best Regards.  

Dave B.


On 4 Jun 2011 at 21:35, Kaya Saman wrote:

Subject:Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error

> 
> [...] 
> 
> 
> 
> Hmmm Hard drives do not like heat!   Check the PSU voltages with a
> meter, for accuracy and ripple.  Failing SMPS's can do all sorts
> of odd things.
> 
> Capacitor problems.  Been there done that.  They can be changed
> for very low cost, other than your time.
> 
> DaveB
> 
> You might guess by know, I know far more about hardware than I do
> about software, but for the latter to run well, the former must be
> good.
> 
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> 
> Many thanks Dave for all the suggestions!!!
> 
> To be honest I think the drives are fine but the system is just s
> old including the IDE drives.
> 
> I mean if I get a SATA/IDE USB adapter I should be able to backup the
> drives to the new DAS system I will have in place shortly since I am
> much more in favor of running Nexenta Core 3 OS with ZFS spanning the
> 16x drives meaning a total of 36TB with 2 internal drives used for
> logging and caching.
> 
> Then this system will be obsolete. However, I will keep your
> suggestion of using spinwrite in mind next time I encounter issues!
> 
> BTW I respect your H/W knowledge that's quite in deep :-) thank you
> for your insight.
> 
>  with Pipex which is now bust, then I moved out of the UK and now
> everything is roasting hot>
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Kaya
> 
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Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error

2011-06-04 Thread Dave
On 4 Jun 2011 at 10:52, Kaya Saman wrote:

> Many thanks for the response!
> 
> On 06/04/2011 02:00 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> > Kaya Saman  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I have an ancient pre-HT PIV machine with<500MB RAM.
> >> ...
> >> Everything was running fine until round about 2 days
> >> ago when the system started locking up on me?
> >>
> >> ... is there anyway to fix the kernel error quickly?
> >>  
> > Did you apply any updates shortly before it started to fail?
> >
> 
> No updates! I did however, install unrar through ports.
> 
> > If not, this is likely to be a hardware problem.  I'd suggest
> > checking the power supply and the fans, running memtest86, and
> > taking a close look at the electrolytic filter capacitors on
> > the system board -- the last because it sounds as if this system may
> > be about the right age to have been built with some bad ones. (If
> > any of the capacitors are bulging, either those caps, or the entire
> > board, need to be replaced.)  Power and heat problems can cause all
> > sorts of strange symptoms.
> >
> 
> I guess, I mean I did mention that the system was old and also I've
> been running in 24/7 online for the past year and half as this box got
> passed down to me by a family member. It has a Gigabyte system board.
> Not sure about the capacitors; I'll check. I remember on other boards
> that went on me in the past with capacitor issues, a bunch of orange
> stuff starts leaking out of them when they blow up.
> 
> Also the chassis doesn't have any cooling fans either since it was
> bought extremely cheaply by the family member but not sure that's the
> culprit neither power problems as the system has run in high outside
> ambient temps in the past with no A/C in the room and also was working
> fine on the PSU installed with the 4 disks.
> 
> I guess it's hardware related somehow as something's blown up, either
> the PSU, system board or so..
> 
> 
> As I explained in the beginning if there's no clear way to fix the
> problem easily then I'll wait a bit. - I have a 16 disk Promise DAS on
> the way and will build a server using a Chenbro industrial rack
> chassis and Supermicro AMD based 8-12 core system board. These systems
> will fit better in the 2 racks I have in my living room. This should
> be a bit more stable and also give me higher capacity too!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Kaya
> 
> 
> 

Hmmm  Hard drives do not like heat!   Check the PSU voltages with a 
meter, for accuracy and ripple.  Failing SMPS's can do all sorts of odd 
things.

Capacitor problems.  Been there done that.  They can be changed for very 
low cost, other than your time.

DaveB

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software, but for the latter to run well, the former must be good.

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Re: Strange system lockups - kernel saying disk error

2011-06-04 Thread Dave
On 3 Jun 2011 at 15:09, Kaya Saman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have an ancient pre-HT PIV machine with <500MB RAM.
> 
> The system has an extra PCI->SATA card installed so I can  make use of
> modern high capacity drives.
> 
> Everything was running fine until round about 2 days ago when the
> system started locking up on me?
> 
> 
> Current drive configuration for the system is:
> 
> 40GB IDE drive as root (ad2) - UFS2
> 500GB IDE drive for storage (ad3) - EXT3
> 1TB SATA drive for storage (ad4) - UFS2
> 750GB SATA drive for storage (ad8) - EXT3
> 
> I had an issue with the 750GB drive which the file system seemed to
> have got corrupted so I powered down and backed the information up to
> a 2TB SATA drive using ddrescue and the Gentoo Linux based System
> Rescue CD. I put the 2TB drive in place of the 1TB ad4 drive
> physically.
> 
> Once backed up I powered down again and re-installed the 1TB SATA
> drive into ad4 position on system and completely removed the 2TB
> backup.
> 
> When booted back into FreeBSD upon boot I received this error:
> 
> 
>   WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
>  ad4: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51 
>  error=4  LBA=1 ...:  1 Time(s)
>  g_vfs_done():ad4e[WRITE(offset=97691456, length=16384)]error
>  = 5 ...:  1 Time(s)
> 
> 
> The current status of the disks seemed to be ok though:
> 
>   1 Time(s): ad2: 38166MB  at ata1-master
>   UDMA33 1 Time(s): ad2: DMA limited to UDMA33, controller found
>   non-ATA66 cable 1 Time(s): ad3: 476940MB 
>   at ata1-slave UDMA33 1 Time(s): ad3: DMA limited to UDMA33,
>   controller found non-ATA66 cable 1 Time(s): ad4: 953869MB   HD103SJ 1AJ10001>  at ata2-master SATA150 1 Time(s): ad8:
>   715404MB  at ata4-master SATA150 1
>   Time(s): agp0:  on hostb0 1 Time(s):
>   ata0:  on atapci0 1 Time(s): ata0: [ITHREAD] 1
>   Time(s): ata1:  on atapci0 1 Time(s): ata1: [ITHREAD]
>   1 Time(s): ata2:  on atapci1 1 Time(s): ata2:
>   [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata3:  on atapci1 1 Time(s):
>   ata3: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata4:  on atapci1 1
>   Time(s): ata4: [ITHREAD] 1 Time(s): ata5:  on atapci1
> 
> 
> In order to test if the error was due to disk failure I powered down
> and disconnected the ad4 and ad3 disks and powered back up.
> 
> 
> The system still seems to be locking on me and I can't understand why?
> 
> 
> Through Google'ing a discovered a post by Jeremy Chadwick about these
> kinds of errors:
> 
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting
> 
> however since the system board is pre-SATA is doesn't even have 
> S.M.A.R.T. so I'm totally lost on how to fix this. I mean the best
> remedy would be to get a new computer and migrate the stored
> information (something like this is on the way) but currently I don't
> have access to any of the disks at all and to make matters worse no
> NTP or DNS server as I was running these services on the same machine
> or TFTP boot server for my IP phones. - I do run multiboot UNIX on my
> notebook so Bind9 is naturally installed hence me writing this but I
> only activate in emergencies.
> 
> I mean one way I thought of for fixing this would be to grab a USB ->
> ATA/SATA adapter:
> 
> http://www.startech.com/product/USB2SATAIDE-USB-20-to-IDE-or-SATA-Adap
> ter-Cable
> 
> and hook the drives up to both Linux and FreeBSD in my notebook and
> copy the information across to the new system when it arrives in a few
> months.
> 
> 
> Aside from that is there anyway to fix the kernel error quickly?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kaya
> 

Hmmm...  No backups then?

First, check the drive data cables.  Many do fail with age.  Some SATA 
types are made with Aluminium not copper, and are extremley fragile when 
they age.   If that doenst shed some light...

Take a look athttp://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm

Will often restore a failling drive to full use, if it's not mechanicaly 
damaged.   It can take time though, if any sector corruption is very bad.  
Days, weeks, even months have been see in some cases, but if the software 
keeps going, it usualy does the job.

It's not a Windows program, if anyting it's a DOS program, but comes with 
it's own FreeDOS system to boot and run from, so you don't even need an 
OS on the machine to test!   It will work with IDE or SATA types, even 
over a USB adapter if needed (but then it can't access any SMART data the 
drive may have) but it'll run a lot slower as it won't be aware of the 
drive's detailed physical timing etc.

I've used it on WIndows and Linux machines in anger, and the FreeBSD box 
when I got it (an old Gateway E-1400) to make sure the drive was healthy.

It's the hard drive equivalent of Memtest86, and you know how good that 
is.

Even if it doesn't report any problems found, often it will cause the 
drive to maitain things itself, improving performance as a result.

Even if the recovered drive is still less than 100% happy, or some of 
your data is not recoverable, you can then get the rest of your data off 
it, onto something new, fairly sur

Re: Critical issues with WD green drives

2011-06-02 Thread Robison, Dave

On 06/02/2011 09:09, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

On 06/02/11 18:02, Reid Linnemann wrote:


I've gotten similar errors before with a failing power supply. After
an electrical storm I started getting HD errors all over the place. I
replaced drives, futzed with SATA cables, booted, rebooted, and when
the machine got stable finally I just tried to leave it alone. Finally
I bought a new atom board, thinking that some component on the
mainboard had been killed by the storm. Problems persisted until my
mini-itx case came in with a fresh (less powerful) power supply.



Thanks, but in my case this is unlikely.
I have reduntant power supplies and 4 SAS drives which work flawlessly.
Only the two SATA have problems.

 bye & Thanks
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I've had serious problems with those drives, including more than one 
which was dead right out of the box.


Dave


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Re: ZFS promote failure

2011-05-25 Thread Dave Cundiff
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Pawel Jakub Dawidek  wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:50:51AM -0400, Dave Cundiff wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm seeing a strange problem trying to use zfs promote.
>>
>> [root@san2]# zfs snapshot san/sr@snap
>> [root@san2]# zfs clone san/sr@snap san/sr5
>> [root@san2]# zfs promote san/sr5
>> cannot promote 'san/sr5': dataset is busy
>>
>> Being a freshly created dataset I'm not sure how it would be busy. Are
>> there any caveats to using zfs promote on zvols? The snapshots are of
>> ext3 formatted zvols. I don't really need to promote them but wanted
>> to in case I needed to destroy the source for some reason.
>
> Which FreeBSD version is this? I just tried it on 9-CURRENT with ZFSv28
> and it works just fine, even if I've file systems mounted on top of
> those ZVOLs.
>
Hi,

I was using 8.1-RELEASE and upgraded to 8.2-RELEASE to make see if it improved.

[root@san2 ~]# zpool upgrade
This system is currently running ZFS pool version 15.

All pools are formatted using this version.
[root@san2 ~]# zfs upgrade
This system is currently running ZFS filesystem version 4.

All filesystems are formatted with the current version.
[root@san2 ~]# uname -a
FreeBSD san2.a2hosting.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb
17 02:41:51 UTC 2011
r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64


Little more detail. The zvol that is the source of the clone is an
image I use for all my filesystems. I was able to create one clone and
promote it. However, when I tried to do it a second time I received
that error. Can you only have 1 promoted clone per source? I don't
really need to promote them. I just wanted to be able to delete the
source image once the box was full. If it has a ton of associated
clones it'll be stuck there forever.

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Re: FreeBSD compatible mini-itx board

2011-05-20 Thread Dave
On 19 May 2011 at 11:59, Chuck Swiger wrote:

> On May 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote:
> >> It indicates that they put faster RAM into the box, but ran it at a
> >> speed of 533MHz, which is slower than the memory is capable of
> >> running.  In some cases, doing this lets you run the RAM at lower
> >> voltage or with tighter timing settings of CL/tRCD/tTP/etc.
> > 
> > Thanks, currently I have, well ancient RAM on an old VIA board and
> > it's not really any reliable. That with the flacky disk controller on
> > the VIA board is my reason to go Intel.
> 
> Yeah, I have one of the VIA EPIA M6000 boards, and the IDE controller
> gets flaky under load if there is more than one device attached.
> Disabling the secondary channel on IRQ 15 helped some
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> -Chuck
> 

With VIA mobo's any older than about 3 years, check the condition of all
the 1000uF/6.3V electrolytic caps scattered about the place.  Any 
bulging, or showning brown crusty stuff (leakage) replace them.

Bad power rail decpoupling can cripple a system but present itself as one
particular subsystem acting up under specific conditions.

They don't fix themselves, they only get worse.

Regards.

DaveB.

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Best SATA/SAS controller for ZFS on FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE?

2011-05-11 Thread Dave Pooser
Backbone
error=28
May 11 17:59:58 backbone last message repeated 15 times
May 11 17:59:58 backbone root: ZFS: vdev I/O failure, zpool=Backbone path=
offset= size= error=
May 11 18:00:05 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
May 11 18:00:05 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x12
May 11 18:00:05 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
May 11 18:00:08 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
May 11 18:00:08 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x12
May 11 18:00:08 backbone kernel: mpt1: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
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ZFS promote failure

2011-05-11 Thread Dave Cundiff
Hello,

I'm seeing a strange problem trying to use zfs promote.

[root@san2]# zfs snapshot san/sr@snap
[root@san2]# zfs clone san/sr@snap san/sr5
[root@san2]# zfs promote san/sr5
cannot promote 'san/sr5': dataset is busy

Being a freshly created dataset I'm not sure how it would be busy. Are
there any caveats to using zfs promote on zvols? The snapshots are of
ext3 formatted zvols. I don't really need to promote them but wanted
to in case I needed to destroy the source for some reason.

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Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD?

2011-05-01 Thread Dave Pooser
I'm planning on setting up a machine to run a Java server app, and the OS
candidates are CentOS or FreeBSD. I'd prefer FreeBSD, for reasons mostly
involving ZFS and DTrace, but when I go to http://www.freebsd.org/java I
notice that the binaries are certified with 6.x/7.x and the last entry in
"Newsflash" is posted July 10 of 2010. This does not, on the surface,
appear to be a vibrant and active project.

That said, I see there are packages in the 8.2 RELEASE tree, so there's
clearly some kind of work going on. I guess my question is, can I expect
FreeBSD to be a solid platform for Java deployment going forward, or am I
better off taking the road more traveled and deploying on Linux?
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Re: Suddenly lots processes exits signal 11 (core dumped)

2011-04-26 Thread Robison, Dave

I second the idea that this is a RAM issue.

Power down, ground yourself, remove and re-seat the RAM and see if the 
problem goes away.


On 04/26/2011 07:35, Mikael Bak wrote:

C. P. Ghost wrote:

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Mikael Bak  wrote:

Hi list,

I have a system running FreeBSD 7.3. Its main function is running
Postfix SMTP server and a few perl based content filters. Nothing exotic
really.

It has been nicely up and running approx 150 days when it suddenly
starts behaving very strange.

First I noticed a converter script failing. It is basically a small
shell script that converts a quite big file replacing a few words using
sed. The output is mostly damaged.

Another problem is that lots of processes exits signal 11 (core dumped).
And I need to restart them by hand. See dmesg output below.

I know I don't give you guys much to go on. I just want to know it it's
possible to find out somehow if some hardware is failing and must be
changed.

My first thought was overheating. But my collegue went to the site and
he said the hardware is not hot at all.

If you didn't update the OS or the apps, it is almost certainly hardware-
related. Probably a bad PSU, or bad RAM. The box doesn't have to
overheat when one of those are degraded.


Hi,
Thanks fot the fast answer!

The OS is regularly updated with "freebsd-update", but only within 7.3
version.

The apps are regularly updated with "portmaster".

So I can't say nothig's ever changed. But I can only say that this is
the only machine I've ever seen behave like this.

TIA,
Mikael

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Re: SSHD Strangeness

2011-04-08 Thread Robison, Dave

is your host ip denied by /etc/hosts.allow?

On 04/08/2011 12:22, Scott Ballantyne wrote:

I've never seen this before, but when ssh'ing to my server today, I
got:

ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed

I was able to log in using my vendors KVM access, and didn't see
anything particularly odd. I hadn't changed anything. I restarted
sshd, but that didn't help.

The log files show hundreds of 'login failures' from the script
kiddies, but that is typical.

Trying again a couple of hours later, and I can ssh just fine. No
changes, nothing.

Has anyone seen this, or knows what is going on?

Thanks
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Where to download latest FreeBSD snapshots

2011-03-26 Thread dave jones
Hello,

It seems that www.allbsd.org is down and
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201102
is old. Anyone knows where I can get the FreeBSD snapshots? Thank you.
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Re: Simplest way to deny access to a class C

2011-03-04 Thread Robison, Dave


Check out portsentry perhaps?

I used to use it quite a bit. Whenever someone would hit one of a number 
of defined ports, I'd automatically add a rule denying them in IPFW and 
also drop their route to a non-existent IP on my class C.




On 03/04/11 16:14, Patrick Gibson wrote:

fail2ban by default only bans an IP for 10 minutes, and that's
configurable. It can also email you anytime it imposes a ban, so one
can keep an eye on things at least in the beginning to see if it's
causing a problem for legitimate users.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Gary Gatten  wrote:

Be careful of automated responses.  What if someone spoofs IP's of legit users 
/ customers / whatever and your automated response blocks them?  Not good.

I thought about blockingwell, never mind - might pi$$ someone off and 
attract unwanted attention...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:58 PM
To: Jorge Biquez
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Simplest way to deny access to a class C

You might consider mod_security (/usr/ports/www/mod_security) which
can be set up to ban hosts based on behaviour or characteristics.

Or fail2ban (/usr/ports/security/py-fail2ban) is really great, too, in
that it scans whatever logs you want, and can trigger a block in your
firewall if enough violating log entries are found within a particular
period of time. Everything is totally configurable, and there are
plenty of examples that come with it.

Patrick


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Jorge Biquez  wrote:

Hello all.

I am sorry in advance if this question sounds too stupid.

I have a small server for personal use of webpages running:

7.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-PRERELEASE #0

it is working fine , no problem very stable.

I just need to block some IP class C address that are always trying to
"discover" directories or applications under the web server. They do not do
and can not do anything since this server has nothing installed but i am
tired of seeing in the logs all the intents they do every 2-3 seconds.

I have not installed any kind of firewall yet.
What do you think is the best way to accomplish this task? If possible the
easiest one. I do not want to do anything else but just bloc IP's, at this
moment at least.

Thanks in advance.

Jorge Biquez

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Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-17 Thread Robison, Dave

I like bacula, I've used it for years.

I also like this command Julian once taught me:

find . -name | cpio -pdmluv /destination/folder/here


On 02/17/11 18:25, Xn Nooby wrote:

Wow, that article is just what I was looking for!  I will check out
your other articles too.  Thanks!


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Warren Block  wrote:

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Xn Nooby wrote:


I downloaded the "alternative testing" ubuntu-based version of
Clonezilla, and it appeared to backup my FreeBSD machine. It
identified my filesystem as UFS.  I will wipe the drive and try a
restore later tonight.   It said it was backing up 30GB of files,
which seemed odd for a fresh install.  The backup was 7.5GB.   There
is a lot of good info in this thread, so I will be experimenting with
the various methods discussed. It sounds like I really need to learn
about dump/restore.

Pardon if I've mentioned this already, but I have an article called "Backup
Options For FreeBSD" at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html

It covers variations of dump/restore, and also mentions Clonezilla and dd
and their advantages and disadvantages.  Feedback welcome.


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Re: FreeBSD and SSD drives

2011-02-12 Thread Dave
On 11 Feb 2011 at 13:33, Adam Vande More wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin 
> wrote:
> 
> > Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
> >
> > You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have
> > lots of reads and little to no write activity, unless you enjoy
> > buying new SSDs a lot.  Actually, let's not ignore TRIM; the
> > work-around for lack of TRIM support on some drives is a "garbage
> > collection" routine that exacerbates the problem of having to
> > replace your SSDs more often if you do a lot of writes.
> >
> > I guess I would only use SSDs on servers in the same cases where I
> > would let myself be talked into using MySQL -- cases where you just
> > treat it pretty much like a read-only data store, and do not have to
> > (safely) add or change data stored there most of the time.
> >
> 
> Modern SSD's can do a *lot* of writes, wear-leveling and other
> tecniques allow SSD's to be implemented for nearly any workload. 
> There's a great deal of literature and facts on this topic if someone
> was motivated enough to research it.  Some legends are better off
> fading away.
> 
> http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html
> 
> Same thing is sort of true with TRIM, on most modern drives lack of OS
> TRIM support isn't the performance hit it used to be although still
> desirable.
> -- 
> Adam Vande More
> 

Define "a *lot*".   If you look up the spec's on the common (currently) 
available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes.  Pittiful 
compared to magnetic media.

The way they work too, if you write one "sector" you actualy re-write a 
much larger block of memory.  Wear leveling, not that common with SSD 
Hard Drives, but very common with USB (Flash) memory sticks, only goes so 
far.

SSD's have a place, but not for things like swapfiles or working data 
that changes a lot..

Regards.

Dave B.

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Re: shutdown computer after the halt command

2011-02-07 Thread Robison, Dave

Allow me to split hairs here.

I was taught "sync;sync;sync;halt".

One for the father, one for the son, one for the holy spirit.

This, of course, in the days when I/O was slow enough that sync didn't 
have time to finish before the halt, so doing it three times ensured 
your file system shut down cleanly.


Dave

On 02/07/11 17:38, Devin Teske wrote:

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 19:26 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Devin Teske  wrote:

 There's no technical reason to avoid using halt directly other
 than the
 fact that shutdown sends a message to connected users while
 halt does
 not.
 --
 Devin

 P.S. I welcome the rebuttle as a learning experience if the
 above is not
 100% accurate and true (but be-warned... I went around the
 office
 polling _really_ old UNIX hands before making the above
 statement).


I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong.  The easiest way
to see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0  then do one of each like a
reboot then a shutdown -r now.  In the latter case, you'll
notice /etc/rc.d/ and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being
processed but not so in the former.  In both types of shutdowns,
everything *should* exit cleanly but processes are terminated with
different signals and certain types of applications really need the
full rc stop script to end cleanly like HAST and CARP for example.

shutdown -r/p is a really good habit to form.

FWIW, someone also stated reboot on Linux behaves like shutdown -r now
so that I sure contributes to the confusion.


Thank you very much for the explanation!

Yes, I (we) had completely forgotten about the shutdown scripts.

Of course, many of us still remember the days when it standard fare to
"sync; sync; halt".
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