Re: your mail about "domain name"
From: "Tiago Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: your mail about "domain name" > what i mean is that other hosts can >ping your IP but not your name... > > My DNS server is in my LAN > and i have acces to it > Setting up BIND is a pretty complex subject. There is a chapter in the handbook devoted to it. Generally, if you've already got it working it should just be a matter of adding the new host's name to the zone file on the nameserver, incrementing the serial number in the zone file, and restarting the name daemon. Something like: $cd /etc/namedb $ed my.domain.hosts my.old.host. IN A 192.168.0.100 my.new.host. IN A 192.168.0.101 $ndc restart make sure your LAN hosts are using *your* DNS server to do their lookups. $nslookup - your.dns.server Default Server: localhost.my.domain Address: 127.0.0.1 >my.new.host Server: localhost.my.domain Address: 127.0.0.1 Name:my.new.host Address: 192.168.0.101 That should about take care of it, unless I'm not understanding the questions, which is quite possible, even likely HTH, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Removing and Replacing FreeBSD
Having gone over and over and over and over the handbook and installation guides, I have determined that the installation of FreeBSD just does NOT work for me. Perhaps it is because I'm not a programmer, perhaps it's because I'm a complete moron (as I'm sure anyone reading this will make a comment on), but it simply does not work for me, does not match my needs, etc. What I'm needing to know, though, is whether I can simply stick my Windows 98 disk in and it will complete remove and replace FreeBSD, or is there something else needed to complete the task of removing this completely user-UNfriendly operating system and replacing it with something that we commonplace morons can use? Natalie Behm [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Yep, if you go through the installation procedure for Win98, it will remove FreeBSD. Hint for trying a new operating system: Have at least one person, preferably more, whom you can ask questions when you come to the almost inevitable sticking points. (FreeBSD-newbies and -questions can and do serve this purpose, among others.) Hint #2: Windows 2000 and Windows XP are both *much* more stable than Win98. (It was the crash-prone nature of Win98 that first drove me to thoughts of trying other OSs.) Hint #3: Among Unix-ish OSs, Mac OS X and certain Linuxes have a reputation for being easy to install. I have not tried either OS X or Linux personally. General Observation #1: We are all commonplace morons (or even unusually thick:) about many things. Jud *** Second that; if Windows XP is proving to have many advantages over 9x. Of course, it's going to cost her $xxx. SuSe Linux is among those reputed to be fairly 'easy' on the installbut easy to my closest source, an NT admin, might not be easy to someone else. Also, apologies to Ms. Behm if I was too harsh. The hackish tradition tends to come out when someone *yells* about FBSD. Jud, you're superior to me in evangelism KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Port managment
Many folks like /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade.. I believe it's touted to do everything you listed and more.. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. - Original Message - From: "Lefteris Tsintjelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Port managment > Hi, > > I would like some help with port/file managment. I am trying to figure > out a way of how to clean a system from any unused ports/files or have > some knowledge of what is going on. > > I have acrually a few questions: > > 1) How can I find ports that do not depend in any other ports? > 2) How can I find files that are unused by any port? > 3) How can I find modified files? > 4) How can I find missing port files? > 5) _AND_ (yes finally) How can I find missing port dependencies? > > I hope I am not asking for too much now, am I? :) > > Thanks, > > Lefteris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Removing and Replacing FreeBSD
From: "Natalie Behm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: Removing and Replacing FreeBSD > Having gone over and over and over and over the > handbook and installation guides, I have determined > that the installation of FreeBSD just does NOT work > for me. Perhaps it is because I'm not a programmer, > perhaps it's because I'm a complete moron (as I'm sure > anyone reading this will make a comment on), but it > simply does not work for me, does not match my needs, > etc. > > What I'm needing to know, though, is whether I can > simply stick my Windows 98 disk in and it will > complete remove and replace FreeBSD, or is there > something else needed to complete the task of removing > this completely user-UNfriendly operating system and > replacing it with something that we commonplace morons > can use? Well, you could always get an ax and a blowtorch :-) Ms. Behm, I'm very sorry that you've had difficulty with FBSD. I will not call you a moron, but you do not have to be a "programmer" to operate FreeBSD. It is however pretty clear, when one reads the documentation, that FreeBSD works best for people who understand what a computer is and does, and a bit about how it does it. I believe that the choice of an operating system, for most people, should be an issue on which knowledgeable individuals should be consulted. You might wish to consider doing everyone a favor and hiring a consultant. Most professionals would be glad to use your "Windoze 98 disk" (whatever that may be) to make you happier than you are now. Cordially, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. P.S. If that's a "Windows 98 CD" from Micro$oft, you'll need it, a working system (hardware) and about a 25-digit "registration" key in order to get Windoze on your computer again, assuming that your BIOS will support booting from the CDROM drive. You might also need a "Windows 98 boot disk," in order to repartition and format the hard drive, because, although FreeBSD read DOS easily enough, Micro$oft did not use enough foresight to allow Windows to read UFS. P.P.S. You might hire a consultant P.P.P.S. Or even go to a reputable computer tech center.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit
- Original Message - From: "Kirk Strauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD filesystem 1TB Limit > > At 2002-11-07T06:48:32Z, "Derrick Ryalls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> 1200*1MB == 1.2GB, does it not? > > > Yes, it does not. > > > Usually, when talking computers, people use 2^10 which = 1024. So 1200 > > MB = 1.17 GB. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. > > I'm willing to call 1.17 as 1.2 for the sake of this thread, which started > with the statement that 1200*1MB was breaking the 1TB limit. I think that > 1.2GB is roughly as much smaller than 1TB as is 1.17GB, so I'm content with > the rounding in this context. :) > -- > Kirk Strauser > In Googlis non est, ergo non est. Well, to be as nitpicky as both of y'all are, the thread didn't *start* with the statement "1200*1MB is too big"---looks from here as if that was the _fifth_ post. Does make you wonder, though, why we don't make *more* mistakes than we do, typing M when we meant G. Kirk, I still like you sighave you applied for copyright? Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: your mail about "domain name"
From: "Tiago Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:43 AM > Hello there... > > I have a host conect do the router, > How do i send my domain name to the dns server, > i can ping by the ip but not by domain > > Thanks > Tiago Camilo > More information would be helpful. Do you mean that you can ping IPs from the host, but not names, or do you mean that other hosts can ping your IP but not your name? Is the DNS server on your LAN, or outside? Who controls the DNS server? Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: icecast
- Original Message - From: "Brian Henning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: icecast > hello- > i have icecast installed on my bsd box and it runs great. can someone tell > me how i can automatically start this program on boot? > > thanks, > b > Didn't you just ask this? One fellow offered a shell script. It's true that another guy thought that wouldn't be a good idea. Did they forget to cc: you? It doesn't appear so.. If you think a shell script is not the thing for the reasons mentioned, you might use crontabdepending on what user icecast needs to be run as, put the following into their crontab @reboot/path/to/icecast -flag(s) argument(s) If icecast has an apache-style APACI program, you might call it at shutdown to kill the daemon. @shutdown command Use 'crontab -e' to edit your/the crontab HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: FS options for FreeBSD
Recent thread round here somewhere discussed this very briefly. I remember ext2 on the list, along with, of course, ufs, and seems like NTFS Kevin Kinsey - Original Message - From: "Forrest Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:23 PM Subject: FS options for FreeBSD > I'm looking for different filesystem options for FreeBSD. > > I'm ripping apart a Linux machine that's running a mail service which > utilizes the reiserfs for performance gain. Since that's not available > for FreeBSD (I ran across some flames about it, actually) - I wonder what > alternatives exist out there, etc. Pointers/reference appreciated. > > > Thanks. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
SOLVED: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql
I blew away most of /usr/local and did 'make deinstall' in all affected portdirs. After that, smooth as a baby's bottom... I suppose I had done something(s) in a non-standard way, the wrong order, etc., heretofore, and had borked the setup. Thanks to all, props esp. to Mr.z DeGroot, Williams, Byrne Think I'll go get my spare box now Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. - Original Message - From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql > Anyone have a 'cheat sheet' for an install > of apache, mod_php4, mod_ssl, mysqld? > > I'm about sick of: > > grok a dozen web pages > more through the INSTALL *one more time* > *guessing* at the right flags, > ./configure, make, etc.. > > and would be grateful for any pointers... > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Junior hacker assignment :o
- Original Message - From: "Carlos Carnero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Junior hacker assignment :o > Hello, > > --- DaleCo Help Desk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suppose you want to read the code in > > /usr/src/sbin/shutdown/shutdown.c > > in the (appropiately named? :) function > die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog() rebooting means > sending init a INT signal... I'll heck init (and > that's kernel turf right?) > > Thanks a lot, > Carlos. > Is that 'check init' or 'hack init'? I might just alter shutdown so it took an additional argument to -r along the lines of shutdown -r [when-die] [when-resurrect] .but I'm just a converted Windoze Luser and amateur sysadmin, so you're getting beyond me here. If the OS is shut down, then the kernel's shut down, right, and how's it gonna count seconds 'til Resurrection Day? KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Junior hacker assignment :o
- Original Message - From: "Carlos Carnero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Junior hacker assignment :o > Hello, > > I'd like to make my own modification to FreeBSD, but I > really don't know where to start. This is what I want > to do: > > After doing a shutdown (no APM nor ACPI) FreeBSD tells > me that the system is ready to be powered down. I'd > like to add a (configurable) timeout to this final > system notice that automatically reboots when this > timer has expired. > > Where do I start reading? I mean, I think this is a > kernel thingy, right? > > Best regards, > Carlos. > With a second look, you say "(configurable)" so I guess the -r switch isn't enough. I suppose you want to read the code in /usr/src/sbin/shutdown/shutdown.c Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Junior hacker assignment :o
- Original Message - From: "Carlos Carnero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Junior hacker assignment :o > Hello, > > I'd like to make my own modification to FreeBSD, but I > really don't know where to start. This is what I want > to do: > > After doing a shutdown (no APM nor ACPI) FreeBSD tells > me that the system is ready to be powered down. I'd > like to add a (configurable) timeout to this final > system notice that automatically reboots when this > timer has expired. > > Where do I start reading? I mean, I think this is a > kernel thingy, right? > > Best regards, > Carlos. > And this is a need that "shutdown -r" doesn't address? Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql
From: "Mike Hogsett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Barry Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roger Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql > > Sorry to jump into the middle of this thread, but I have recently > installed Apache 1.3x, mod_php4, and mysql on a 4.7 box. I simply > installed apache from the ports, mod_php from the ports and mysql from the > ports. The mod_php port asks what support you want built in before > building, an option there was mysql support. It all just worked. I did > have to tweak my httpd.conf file a bit but what I had to edit/enter was > given to me by the mod_php4 build output. > > - Mike > An SSL-aware Apache? KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql
/usr/ports/databases/mysqlserver323 doesn't seem to build any shared objects.. :-( Could I get the same results by preloading the daemon (program) file? KDK From: "Barry Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roger Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: RE: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql > You could try adding something like this in your apache startup file: > > LD_PRELOAD="/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so"; > export LD_PRELOAD > > Modify for your mysql lib location and add these two lines before the call > to start httpd. > > Cheers, > > Barry > > -- > Barry Byrne, IT Manager, > WBT Systems, Block 2, Harcourt Centre > Harcourt Street, Dublin 2, Ireland > > > -----Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@;FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of DaleCo Help > > Desk > > > Good list, but where's MySQL? > > > > My current point of failure is that apache > > can't load mod_php4 because it hasn't > > been built with MySQL symbols/support > > > > Using the supplied docs got me this far, > > but I've been stumped with this one > > > > KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql
From: "Roger Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: cheat sheet? apache, mod_ssl, mod_php, mysql > Below is what I use. You might need to change some of the dirs and > the version #s of the tarballs, but it is almost a copy and past operation > with this. > > Roger > Good list, but where's MySQL? My current point of failure is that apache can't load mod_php4 because it hasn't been built with MySQL symbols/support Using the supplied docs got me this far, but I've been stumped with this one KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: man 1 eject
From: "Giorgos Keramidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: Re: man 1 eject > On 2002-11-05 02:10, Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Sue Blake wrote: > > > Peter, I think Greg is saying that there's no man page for eject in > > > FreeBSD, because that program is not part of the operating system. > > > Perhaps NetBSD has an eject program as part of the OS, but FreeBSD does not. > > > > The manpage seems to indicate otherwise: > > > > HISTORY > >The eject command appeared in FreeBSD 2.X > > FreeBSD 4.6.2 Jul 1, 1996 FreeBSD 4.6.2 > > I don't have an eject manpage in my FreeBSD 5.x installation: > Nor does the FBSD site in -STABLE: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=eject&apropos=0&sektion=0&ma npath=FreeBSD+4.7-stable&format=html Sorry, no data found for `eject'. You may look for other FreeBSD Search Services. Peter, what in the *header* of your eject manpage? Generally, FBSD's own man- pages show up with "FreeBSD System Manager's Manual", or "FreeBSD General Commands Manual", etc., etc. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: date set unable
From: "root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: date set unable > Hello! > I have a problem may be minor! > I set the date back with an hour, looks fine, but if I want to see the > current date, it's the same with the date before. > I want to know why, please! > Thanks! > I was recently dealing with a box that was several hours behind because I'd been too busy to set up NTP and I wasn't planning to have it on the 'Net that long anyway. I found the manpage for date(1) to be quite useful, actually. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re:
From: "Tiago Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:59 AM > Hello there again... > iam trying install a program called iptraf, but i have some problems on the > instalation, i dont know if this is the good place but here it is: > > when i make the > > make install > > appears: > > install: unknown group root > Likely it's not developed solely for FreeBSD, I guess. It doesn't seem to be in the ports tree at first glance. Check the Makefile and see who it's trying to set up as program owner and user...sounds as if it wants to run in a 'root' group, which doesn't exist in FBSD. I imagine some tweaking there or on the commandline should make this error go away > What's the problem? Iam the root?? > Only you could answer that, friend. :-) > Thanks. > HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Quick question
From: "Leonardo Medina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Quick question > Hello, > > I'm getting a Bind to port 22 failed error, I have set up our box very nice > and neat with correct public ip addreess, etc... and I still keep getting > this error when I do a sshd command, I cannot ping (only my own box, but > that really just gives me kernel stuff...). > > I look at the connection and its working just fine I even plugged it onto > another device and it works; I installed win2k on the box and it works just > fine, but for some reason I cannot get FreeBSD running... > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Leo Obviously something is wrong. Where does the error appear --- on its own in some error log, or in the console, or as a response to a CLI command? What do you do/type prior to receiving the error message? Also, what do you mean "sshd" command--- the daemon is enabled at startup, usually. What about the ping? Can you not 'ping' any other host from the FBSD box? That's not entirely related to a "bind to port 22" error. A few more details might be helpful Cheers, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: ``root''?
From: "lewiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD-questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: ``root''? Classic computer science. A search tree begins with one decision, branching to two, each of those with 2 more possibilities, etc., etc., etc. Go to / and type "cd .." you can't go any deeper/ higher...(more classic comp sci --- trees grow upside down.) You are at the 'root' of the tree. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD
And, I might advise that you make a backup of everything in /etc if you've never run mergemaster before, just to be on the 'safe side.' KDK - Original Message - From: "KizerSoze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Weinberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: RE: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD > Since I've obviously overlooked the mergemaster step if I run it now will > there be an adverse effects on my sys? I've gone through the man page and > read through the UPDATE file and it appears to me that this is run AFTER the > build/installworld. Is this correct, or, after running the mergemaster do I > need to do that again. > > Thanks again, > > Ed > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@;FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Adam Weinberger > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:19 PM > To: KizerSoze > Cc: DaleCo Help Desk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >> (11.02.2002 @ 2114 PST): KizerSoze said, in 1.4K: << > > To tell you the truth I can't remember if my current machine made the jump > > from 3.x to 4.x branch, or, started somewhere on the 4.x and move up to > 4.7 > > now, but, I have never run mergemaster before. > >> end of "RE: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD" from KizerSoze << > > Please follow the directions in /usr/src/UPDATING. That file contains > directions for 4.x->4.STABLE as well as 3.x->4.x. > > And by all means, run mergemaster(8). It's designed to prevent the exact > problem you're having. > > - -Adam > > > - -- > Adam Weinberger > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQE9xLHSo8KM2ULHQ/0RAmcfAKCUvWztakavq++8R0DtWBOBT8oKGACgsMuX > Rn0PoC3tWEi1Vcusc41u23M= > =mBxD > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD
- Original Message - From: "KizerSoze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam Weinberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: RE: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD > Since I've obviously overlooked the mergemaster step if I run it now will > there be an adverse effects on my sys? I've gone through the man page and > read through the UPDATE file and it appears to me that this is run AFTER the > build/installworld. Is this correct, or, after running the mergemaster do I > need to do that again. > > Thanks again, > > Ed Steps, in order, with some variation because other things work and/or leftovers from older routines cvsup cd /usr/src make buildworld make buildkernel kernconf=/path/to/your/kernconf/file make installkernel (optional boot into single user mode) make installworld mergemaster Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD
- Original Message - From: "KizerSoze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: Default Sendmail install with FreeBSD > I've been addressing an issue where I'm trying to have all my mail from my > root account forwarded to my home email address. The BSD box does not have > a FQDN and when trying to send any mail to my home accounts the mail relay > owned by those accounts will not accept them, assumingly because the from > address does not have a real domain name, thus the relay drops the mail as > spam. > > I know that sendmail can be configured to change the from addresses of > emails before they are sent and I'd like to accomplish this, and, have found > some sufficient documentation here. > http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.2 > > But, after reading through the documentation I am unable to locate any > sendmail.mc file on my system. My system was not a bare 4.7 install, but > has been updated through the 4.x tree. I'm by no means an expert with > Sendmail and have not been able to find any answers to the following > questions. > > 1) Where am I suppose to find the sendmail.mc file? > You won't. You'll find 'freebsd.mc' and, if you've ever run 'make' in /etc/mail, you should see a *.mc where * is your hostname. The *.mc is the one you're concerned with > 2) Does FreeBSD come with a partial install of sendmail, and if so is this > why I'm not seeing the sendmail.mc file, and if thats the case do I need to > re-install sendmail through the port tree? > /stand/sysinstall gives you the option to run Sendmail during the install process...if you tell it you want to run Sendmail, it will put sendmail_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf. > 3) Has anyone else here accomplished what I'm trying to do here, and if so, > what were your steps to success? > One of the things everyone should do, or at least consider, is editing /etc/mail/aliases shortly after setting up FBSD. Several of the daemons use the MTA (usually Sendmail) to notify the system owner/administrator of 'important' issues. After editing the file, 'make' must be run to update sendmail's configuration. As I mentioned above, .mc and .cf files adapted for your host will be created and installed at this time. > Thanks in advance, > > Ed > HTH, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Domains
From: "Bryan Cassidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Domains > Well, I had a reply about one of my questions with one link to one > site so I'm asking just this "one" question again to the list. I am > wanting to buy and host a domain myself with apache on my freebsd > box. I would like some recomendations on some companies that offer > domains for a pretty good price along with the link to their > website. Please include if the site only offers .com, .org, .net or > all. I use dotster.com. Seems like it varies depending on the TLD, I think I've got .coms at 14.95, .biz's at 21.95, etc. They have "specials" once in a while, I think they have most TLD's available. >Well, I said one question but I'm gonna ask another one but > real quick. If I have my own domain and manage it with apache myself > am I still limited to space? Do I still have a sertain amount of > content in MB's or whatever that I can use? Thanks in advance How big a hard disk can you afford? :-) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Internet connexion
From: "Daniel HARTMANN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Internet connexion > > Hi > > I am using a netgear router(RP114) > This box is also a dhcp server, and is connected to a ADSL Lan Modem > With the last release of Freebsd, I can not go out anymore > > > Dany_H ;-) > Did you have an accident with mergemaster, possibly overwriting /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/rc.conf? Curious, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: vga modes
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.ht ml Looks like it kind of depends on how you set up X, but it ought to be in the "screen" section of your XF86Config file HTH, KDK - Original Message - From: "Rotaru Razvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: vga modes > Hello, > > Do you know that line in /etc/lilo.conf (vga=???) that sets a different > screen resolution (vga mode) in linux? Well I am trying to to do > something similar in bsd. Maybe you could tell me where to start (i > don't even know where to fine the bsd boot manager). > > Regards, > Razvan > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: SMTP auth on demand
Thread yesterday or day before on this. Look into "POP before SMTP." Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. - Original Message - From: "Steven Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: SMTP auth on demand > Hi all. Is there a way to get your SMTP server to look at your > radius logs, see where you're logged in from, what IP specifically, and > allow relaying through that IP until you log off? Basically what I need > is when one of our employee's logs in using a remote ISP, they can have > access to our SMTP server up until they disconnect from the internet. > Once they do that then the ability to relay mail from that IP is > restricted again as before. Am I making any sence? Is there a way to do > this? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Apache,PHP and FreeBSD
And, while we're on that subject: To find something in the ports collection, do this: $cd /usr/ports $make search key=(keyword) ...in your case, 'php' or 'mod_php' should have done the trick. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hogsett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bryan Cassidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "david" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Apache,PHP and FreeBSD > > /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/ > > > I want to host (or whatever) the site myself. I think it would be a > > good learning experience for me. I know where apache is in the ports > > but where is php? > > > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:48:17 -0500 > > david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Friday 01 November 2002 15:32, Bryan Cassidy wrote: > > > > Hello everyone. I have been messing around with html lately and think its > > > > pretty cool. I want to start using PHP with apache and buy my own domain. > > > > My question is this: What is a good site to get domains from that has a > > > > reasonable amount of space and doesnt cost too much? Does anyone know of > > > > > > I'm confused, are you wishing to buy a webhosting account or run it yoursel > > f? > > > > > > > any good tutorials online for PHP,Apache and FreeBSD? Of course I will be > > > > using this on my freebsd machine so docs or tutorials about this related > > to > > > > freebsd would be nice. I am going to start working on this tomorrow s > > > > ometime so I would appreciate some info. thanks > > > > > > Setting it up? It's fairly straight forwarding installing from ports and > > > configuring httpd.conf and php.ini to your likeing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- -- > > -- > > > > E-Mail: Bryan Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Operating System: FreeBSD 4.6.2 > > > > Gaim: bsdsys > > > > Yahoo Messenger: bsdsys > > > > > > > > Please do not simply Reply-To: Bryan Cassidy > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is OK to Cc: me as long as you send the > > > > Reply back To: the original mailing lists. I have put alot of time in > > > > setting up filters so please don't simply reply to me unless I tell > > > > you to or send you one directly. > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > > | ___| __ ___ ___| __ ) ___|| _ \ > > > > | > > > > | |_ | '__/ _ \/ _ \ _ \___ \| | | | > > > > | > > > > | _|| | | __/ __/ |_) |__) | |_| | > > > > |_| |_| \___|\___|//|/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > --- -- > > -- > > E-Mail: Bryan Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Operating System: FreeBSD 4.6.2 > > Gaim: bsdsys > > Yahoo Messenger: bsdsys > > > > Please do not simply Reply-To: Bryan Cassidy > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is OK to Cc: me as long as you send the > > Reply back To: the original mailing lists. I have put alot of time in > > setting up filters so please don't simply reply to me unless I tell > > you to or send you one directly. > > > > _ > > | ___| __ ___ ___| __ ) ___|| _ \ > > | |_ | '__/ _ \/ _ \ _ \___ \| | | | > > | _|| | | __/ __/ |_) |__) | |_| | > > |_| |_| \___|\___|//|/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Apache,PHP and FreeBSD
If you run FreeBSD and apache, you're not too far from hosting yourself. You need a 24/7 connection to the Internet. A static IP is nice, but not necessary any longer, although I prefer it. My philosophy is: why pay someone else to host when I have the best server OS on the planet on my box(es)? I have 2 boxes that host about 6 domains currently, most using php and apache. I make a few hundred bucks a month running a couple of them for other folks with their own businesses. Surely folks on the list can get you up and running with mod_php and apache. There are also lots of helpful folks on the boards at phpbuilder.com, etc., to help with coding, and the online manual at php.net is at least as cool as freebsd's. Just be sure and RT(F)M before you ask too many s :-) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Cassidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:32 PM Subject: Apache,PHP and FreeBSD > Hello everyone. I have been messing around with html lately and think its pretty cool. I want to start using PHP with apache and buy my own domain. My question is this: What is a good site to get domains from that has a reasonable amount of space and doesnt cost too much? Does anyone know of any good tutorials online for PHP,Apache and FreeBSD? Of course I will be using this on my freebsd machine so docs or tutorials about this related to freebsd would be nice. I am going to start working on this tomorrow sometime so I would appreciate some info. thanks > > --- > E-Mail: Bryan Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Operating System: FreeBSD 4.6.2 > Gaim: bsdsys > Yahoo Messenger: bsdsys > > Please do not simply Reply-To: Bryan Cassidy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is OK to Cc: me as long as you send the > Reply back To: the original mailing lists. I have put alot of time in > setting up filters so please don't simply reply to me unless I tell > you to or send you one directly. > > _ > | ___| __ ___ ___| __ ) ___|| _ \ > | |_ | '__/ _ \/ _ \ _ \___ \| | | | > | _|| | | __/ __/ |_) |__) | |_| | > |_| |_| \___|\___|//|/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: After make world, periodic sends me suid diffs
I'd save the mail for next time :-) I route everything Charlie sends me to a local folder... Kevin Kinsey - Original Message - From: "Duncan Anker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andrew Boring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:49 PM Subject: Re: After make world, periodic sends me suid diffs > On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 07:02, Andrew Boring wrote: > > I upgraded a box from 4.6 to 4.7 that is not in production yet. This was > > my first time upgrading via CVS and make world and everything appeared to > > go smoothly with no issues. > > > > However, the following day I received mail from the daily periodic scripts > > Security Run Output: > > > > Checking setuid files and devices: > > setuid diffs: > > 1,50c1,50 > > < 11 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 321100 Oct 8 11:12:48 2002 /bin/rcp > > < 2761 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 65944 Oct 9 12:45:20 2002 > > /sbin/ccdconfig > > < 153 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 201836 Oct 9 12:45:27 2002 > > /sbin/ping > > < 154 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 202816 Oct 9 12:45:27 2002 > > /sbin/ping6 > > [...] > > > > Looking through the 100.chksetuid script, I am guessing that the security > > script is warning me that the binaries have changed (as a result of the > > source upgrade) and NOT that the permissions have changed or that more > > have been added. Am I correct? I don't have a record or snapshot of the > > permissions on all the binaries listed in the email to verify. > > permissions, owner, group, filesize, date, filename ... anything that's > different between the directory snapshot from the previous run and the > current one. > > It's just a diff between two ls commands, but it's pretty effective for > catching unusual goings on > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: SSH Delay problems
From: "joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: SSH Delay problems > I apologize for this repeat as I was following this issue on the last a > few months ago. I tried to find the thread but was not successfull. > > There is a significant delay before ssh connects and returns a prompt. > I am on a private network, attempting a 192.168.0.XXX 192.168.0.YYY > connection. There is a distinct 1:15 min delay before the password > prompt appears. I have included the log of a specific session. > > Each of the machines is represented in each other's hosts file > > 21:51:38.045289500 debug1: Server will not fork when running in > debugging mode. > 21:51:38.047896500 Connection from 192.168.0.1 port 1035 > 21:51:38.064663500 debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software > version OpenSSH_3.4p1 FreeBSD-20020702 > 21:51:38.074117500 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.4p1 FreeBSD-20020702 pat > OpenSSH* > 21:51:38.074136500 debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > 21:51:38.074146500 debug1: Local version string SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.5 > 21:51:38.077985500 debug1: permanently_set_uid: 22/22 > 21:51:38.080636500 debug1: list_hostkey_types: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss > 21:51:38.080652500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > 21:51:38.082392500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > 21:51:38.082408500 debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > 21:51:38.082418500 debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > 21:51:38.175276500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST received > 21:51:38.190669500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP sent > 21:51:38.254235500 debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 136/256 > 21:51:38.274923500 debug1: bits set: 1663/3191 > 21:51:38.274941500 debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT > 21:51:38.274951500 debug1: bits set: 1572/3191 > 21:51:38.343734500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY sent > 21:51:38.344789500 debug1: kex_derive_keys > 21:51:38.345390500 debug1: newkeys: mode 1 > 21:51:38.345973500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > 21:51:38.346486500 debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > 21:51:38.384126500 debug1: newkeys: mode 0 > 21:51:38.384900500 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > 21:51:38.385463500 debug1: KEX done > 21:52:53.516241500 debug1: userauth-request for user joe service > ssh-connection method none > 21:52:53.517158500 debug1: attempt 0 failures 0 > 21:52:53.520349500 Failed none for joe from 192.168.0.1 port 1035 ssh2 > 21:52:53.521330500 Failed none for joe from 192.168.0.1 port 1035 ssh2 > 21:53:06.125032500 debug1: userauth-request for user joe service > ssh-connection method password > 21:53:06.126400500 debug1: attempt 1 failures 1 > 21:53:06.130573500 Accepted password for joe from 192.168.0.1 port 1035 > ssh2 > 21:53:06.133102500 Accepted password for joe from 192.168.0.1 port 1035 > ssh2 > 21:53:06.133122500 debug1: monitor_child_preauth: joe has been > authenticated by privileged process > 21:53:06.151826500 debug1: newkeys: mode 0 > 21:53:06.152826500 debug1: newkeys: mode 1 > 21:53:06.153577500 debug1: Entering interactive session for SSH2. > 21:53:06.154434500 debug1: fd 7 setting O_NONBLOCK > 21:53:06.155633500 debug1: fd 8 setting O_NONBLOCK > 21:53:06.155649500 debug1: server_init_dispatch_20 > 21:53:06.155658500 debug1: server_input_channel_open: ctype session > rchan 0 win 65536 max 16384 > 21:53:06.155669500 debug1: input_session_request > 21:53:06.156407500 debug1: channel 0: new [server-session] > 21:53:06.165227500 debug1: session_new: init > 21:53:06.166135500 debug1: session_new: session 0 > 21:53:06.166149500 debug1: session_open: channel 0 > 21:53:06.166158500 debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0 > 21:53:06.166168500 debug1: server_input_channel_open: confirm session > 21:53:06.166916500 debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request > pty-req reply 0 > 21:53:06.170842500 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 > 21:53:06.170860500 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req > pty-req > 21:53:06.170870500 debug1: Allocating pty. > 21:53:06.170880500 debug1: session_new: init > 21:53:06.170888500 debug1: session_new: session 0 > 21:53:06.172490500 debug1: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc /dev/ttyp1 > 21:53:06.181828500 debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request > shell reply 0 > 21:53:06.186718500 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 > 21:53:06.186736500 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req > shell > 21:53:06.186747500 debug1: fd 4 setting TCP_NODELAY > 21:53:06.186756500 debug1: channel 0: rfd 10 isatty > 21:53:06.186764500 debug1: fd 10 setting O_NONBLOCK > 21:53:06.188922500 debug1: Setting controlling tty using TIOCSCTTY. > > > Joe Sotham > > Christianity got over the difficulty of furious opposites > by keeping them both and
Re: reinstall all installed ports
- Original Message - From: "Andrew Thomson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: reinstall all installed ports > My portupgrade just finished fine.. however the hole point of this > excerise was to try and fix this problem. > > [ root @ redback :/root# ] ncftp3 > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ncftp3: Undefined symbol "InitWinsock" > ncftp3 was configured with some option that tried to build it with some dependency which was not available. Did you build it from ports ("ages ago")? You might try uninstalling/make clean and starting over if it's not too critical. If it's a high volume ftp server, I'd make a list of options and choose the one that balances ease with servicability/availability. My 2 ¢ (and worth less than that, I expect) Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: FBSD and GDM startup?
From: "Pookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: FBSD and GDM startup? > How would I go about starting GDM on boot. I looked through the handbook > and im unable to find documentation > If all else fails, try cron: @reboot /command/for/gdm -options :-) Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: regarding php installation
From: "John Bleichert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rotaru Razvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: Re: regarding php installation > On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Rotaru Razvan wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:41:45 -0800 (PST) > > From: Rotaru Razvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: regarding php installation > > > > Hello, > > > > Well I have apache2+mod_php4 installed. Still my apache server does not > > execute php scripts (it just sends them as plain text). After > > installing mod_php4 i didn't modify anything in httpd.conf. > > Should I? As i can tell the module is loaded. Why is the server not > > running the scripts? > > > > Regards, > > Razvan > > > > Assuming it's the same setup as 1.2.x you need to tell the server what > type of files to interpret as php. See the comments in the file, search it > for 'php'. > > JB > > # John Bleichert That's pretty much it. Load_Module, Add_Module, and AddType application should get it. Do your scripts have the .php extension? Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Sendmail: non-relay & secure
From: "Steve Warwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Sendmail: non-relay & secure > Hi, > > I have sendmail / qpopper running on a production machine and have yet to > figure out a way to open mail up to my client sin a secure way. > > Eg. Client logs in from aol.com to check and send mail. > > Is there a way to do this that will not open my machine up to abuse? > > > TIA > > > Steve Seems like a standard way to do this is something like "POP before SMTP." If a certain IP authorizes on POP, it's marked as a relay for xx minutes. I'm not sure how this is accomplished, or how secure it's considered, but it's been done, and I've seen it advised here to someone in a similar situation. You might look around for it... HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: shopping cart for freebsd
I'm considering fishcart, but haven't implemented yet. It requires php and one of a few databases including MySQL, PostGre, etc. I've not put the time in to get it to work...not that it's tremendously difficult, but I like to read as much as possible before putting in much time. Also, my client, for one, is not quite ready to inventory everything in SQL. Kevin Kinsey PS. I believe that's "fishcart.org"...it's not in ports... - Original Message - From: "public relations" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: shopping cart for freebsd hello, does anyone know of a good shopping cart system that will work with freebsd? thanks terry allen To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: recovering vi editor sessions????
Ahh, that's it. vi was trying to use sendmail to tell you about the recovered vi sessions... Glad you got it fixed...KDK - Original Message - From: "Weston M. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Toomas Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: recovering vi editor sessions Thanks to Kevin for this I delete all the contents of vi.recover and now everything is fine. I don't quite understand when sendmail was coming up unless one of the vi files was a mail message Thanks again guys. Weston On Tuesday 29 October 2002 10:04 am, Weston M. Price wrote: > Ok, > I reviewed rc.conf and the appropriate flag was inded set. However, I > removed all other delta references to sendmail. The behavior still exits. > The specific error message is the classic: > > Unable to qualify my own domain name (jerusalem)... > > This continues for awhile until sendmail finally decides ot use the short > name and then boots. > > I really don't get it. Are there any other network daemons that require the > use of sendmail to operate properly? > > Regards, > > Weston > > On Tuesday 29 October 2002 09:35 am, DaleCo Help Desk wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Weston M. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Toomas Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:08 AM > > Subject: Re: recovering vi editor sessions > > > > > > I understand the sendmail error message, what i don't understand is > > that it > > seems to be preceeded by the recovering vi editor sessions message. > > No, I > > specifically disabled sendmail in rc.conf as well. > > > > Weston > > > > So you're wanting to 'rid yourself' of the vi-recover message(s)? > > > > Kevin Kinsey > > DaleCo, S.P. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: recovering vi editor sessions????
- Original Message - From: "Weston M. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Toomas Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: recovering vi editor sessions I understand the sendmail error message, what i don't understand is that it seems to be preceeded by the recovering vi editor sessions message. No, I specifically disabled sendmail in rc.conf as well. Weston So you're wanting to 'rid yourself' of the vi-recover message(s)? Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Max Email Users
From: "Matt Delaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:03 AM Subject: Max Email Users > We are running FreeBSD 4.6 on a PIII 600 with 256 Meg RAM as our mail > server. At what point (how many users) will we start running into trouble > (have problems allowing us to send and receive email?) Thanks. > > Matt Delaine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Anecdotal, and from memory, but IIRC Yahoo was handling 2 million messages/diem on 166's in 1997. I suppose it's possible that disk space would give you trouble before anything else. Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Checking RAM and swap use
From: "John Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Julien Bournelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "John Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FreeBSD-questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Checking RAM and swap use > Julien - > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Julien Bournelle wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:34:50AM -0500, John Mills wrote: > > > > How can I check the amount of RAM and swap memory in use (like the Linux > > > console command: 'free')? > > > top ? > > > Thanks - I had been ignoring that part of the screen when I ran 'top'. > > > Now - I see I need to increase my swap partition. Do I have to wipe my > installation and start again? #man swapon SWAPON(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual SWAPON(8) NAME swapon - specify additional device for paging and swapping SYNOPSIS swapon -a swapon special_file ... .. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Mandrake OK, RedHat OK, Win OK, .... FreeBSD NOK ... Any driver? Please help!!!
From: "George Costell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: Mandrake OK, RedHat OK, Win OK, FreeBSD NOK ... Any driver? Please help!!! > 1°) Obstinently does not recognize any of my 3 > Ethernet card on the firts one (RTL8139, DEC, RT 8039 > and NE). Not sure what you mean "on the firts one" Do you mean during /stand/sysinstall 's "kernel configuration in full-screen visual mode?" RealTek 8139 uses the rl driver. Device probing during /stand/sysinstall will not list this driver, but it should appear in your dmesg. If you are using only the 8139 NIC, you can delete all the listed NIC drivers during the "kernel configuration." Generally, these drivers (ed, sn, li, fe) are all for older ISA cards. Make sure "device miibus" is in the kernel config, (it should be in the GENERIC kernel already). HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P., USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: mergemaster question
From: "David Banning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: mergemaster question > I am just in the process of upgrading from 4.5S to 4.7 and I will > be running mergemaster. > > One thing I notice using mergemaster is that it seems to take such a long > time. Is there a quicker way? It wants to replace alot of files, > and that's OK for me 95% of the time. > Only a few I want to keep or merge. > > Am I missing something, or is it just a part of upgrading that you must > decide, file by file which will be modified or replaced? > I'm guessing that a) the versatility of FBSD in general and b) the sheer amount of effort involved in keeping up with the entire OS have something to do with this. Seems like it'd be really quite difficult to determine which files _everyone_ would think don't need to be kept or merged. And certainly, you can't depend on everyone to read all the changes themselves. Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Getting some daemons out of the base system
From: "Michael Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Getting some daemons out of the base system > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > >-- Original Message -- > > >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:31:06 -0400 > > >From: Michael Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >If we were to say move to a more modular styled base system, > > >we shouldn't have to REMOVE the daemons, simply have them > > >either easy to [x] check or [ ] uncheck as part of the installation > > >process. Or have a custom base installation option. Or minimial base > > >installation (ie no ISDN tools) . > > > > Well as long as I can chose NOT to install sendmail, I'll be happy. But > > I don't see the difference between having sendmail removed and having to > > select it. We select all the ports we want, why not just make sendmail > > another > > port (like qmail)? > > Because people like me DEPEND on certain options as part of the base system. > Sendmail is just one of those many options. > > Besides which, asking to have sendmail removed is asking to much. (IMHO) > Whereas having an option to not have installed as part of the base system > seems more digestable. :) > > Wonder if some people would think "it isn't UNIX without Sendmail..." ?? Just a thought, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: What is vnlru really?
From: "Peter Leftwich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "FreeBSD LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: What is vnlru really? > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, DaleCo Help Desk wrote: > > PL> PS - Is `arp -a` the most reliable way to get one's current IP address? > > What's wrong with "ifconfig" ??? > > Kevin Kinsey > > I was not familiar with ifconfig and am surprised at such a similar name to > winipcfg for Win98. It seems arp -a tells me one IP while ipconfig tells > me another. Is that because I'm using DHCP, or is arp -a maybe reporting a > DNS value, not my currently-assigned IP? > > PS - Yack! ".biz?!" > Depends on your network configuration, I guess. It only occurred to me after I had posted that you might be interested in what IP you were presenting to the world, and not just what addy was assigned to the local interface. However, ifconfig, which Windows has "M"-ulated (immolated?) with "winipcfg" and the even more sinister "ipconfig," will tell you lots about all the system interfaces when used with the -a switch, ie: #ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.2.103 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe25:9347%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:a0:cc:25:93:47 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500 As you see from this example, this host is on a LAN at 192.168.2.103... I assume, if you're using dialup, that the IP addy would appear in the ppp0: section "arp -a" is going to give you information about more machines than just your own, quite possibly. I'd use this instead: #arp -n your.hostname.tld your.hostname.tld (11.22.33.44) -- no entry HTH, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Starting natd
From: "Robert Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:18 PM Subject: Starting natd > I'm setting up a FBSD 4.4 box as a gateway. I've got > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="ppp0" > in rc.config, but I can't get natd to run without entering > natd -interface ppp0 > at the comand prompt. I assume this is a configuration problem, but I've > been through the files several times and can't find an error. Can someone > tell me how to get natd to run automatically? > > Bob Hall > Well, I'm no expert on NAT with FreeBSD, but an oft-overlooked method of starting daemons is via the "@reboot" command in the appropriate crontab. I think I saw it posted here recently, in fact, maybe by Ceri, in regard to some other "how do I start ..." question. You might give it a try, barring a deep quest for true knowledge :-) Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)
- Original Message - From: "erk!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7) > in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting, and put your reply > above the quote. (Lucern, Switzerland, Aug 27th, 2043.) Representatives of both sides in the 48 month "top-posting" conflict met today to see if any common ground could be reached in an effort to end the bloody conflict that hobservers says has its roots in early-21st century email practices. ;-) KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Fw: BBS
- Original Message - From: "Atrus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DaleCo Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: Re: BBS > A quick glance at the install script shows the following options for the DB part: > > MySQL 3.x > MySQL 4.x > PostgreSQL 7.x > MS SQL Server 7/2000 > MS Access [ ODBC ] > MS SQL Server [ ODBC ] > > > > -Nikolas "Atrus" Coukouma > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AIM: atrustheotaku > > > > DaleCo Help Desk wrote > > >I don't recall what other db's are available). > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: squirrel mail install-from-ports problem....
It may be that dirk@ needs to hear about it...I've had some trouble building mod_php lately also. But I've managed to work around it, albeit not so quickly. As to your question, here's another: is your Apache v 2.x or 1.3.x ? That's what the script is asking for Kevin Kinsey - Original Message - From: "Bsd Neophyte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:30 PM Subject: squirrel mail install-from-ports problem > i'm getting the following error and it says that this should be reported > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > but before i do that, i wanted some input to see if i could resolve this > issue in a relatively simply way. > > is this an issue with how i installed apache... should i reinstall if with > the "--with-apxs2" option? > > - > Configuring SAPI modules > checking for AOLserver support... no > checking for Apache 1.x module support via DSO through APXS... configure: > error: Use --with-apxs2 with Apache 2.x! > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and > attach the "/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.2.3/config.log" > including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it > might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages > installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/squirrelmail. > - > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: BBS
From: "Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: BBS > I see just a few BBS packages in the Ports area, is > there one that considered best; or are there better > solutions to offering simple user interfaces? Such > as Apache+Perl scripts? Others? Thanks. > > Walter > I assume we're talking BBS='forums' or 'message boards.' phpbb is STELLAR, but I'm not sure if that's made to fit your requirements. The user interface can be a bit foreboding to "newbie netizens", and it requires the equivalent of apache, php, and mysql (other platforms are supported---I don't recall what other db's are available). The look and feel are fantastic, the admin interface is web based and powerful, and it's used all over the place. Great stuff, and it's in the ports under /usr/ports/www/phpbb. Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Port 514 unsafe? open to outside?
- Original Message - From: "Peter Leftwich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD Questions LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:48 PM Subject: Port 514 unsafe? open to outside? > # grep 514 /etc/services | grep shell > shell 514/tcpcmd #like exec, but automatic > > I ran `nmap` on my local IP and the only "interesting" port it found was > 514. What is this port? I don't understand "shell," and "cmd." > $'man rshd' And that said, if you don't want it on, perhaps you should turn it off it must be enabled in /etc/inetd.conf. Comment it out and -HUP the inetd process > How do I find out if sendmail is trying to work "inboundedly?" I know it > works outbound because I am about to send this message ;-] > Not sure what you're asking. If you're receiving mail, sendmail by default puts it in /var/mail, in an appropriately titled file. That, I believe, it the standard config. Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: What is vnlru really?
- Original Message - From: "Peter Leftwich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FreeBSD Questions LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: What is vnlru really? > PS - Is `arp -a` the most reliable way to get one's current IP address? > > -- > Peter Leftwich > President & Founder > Video2Video Services > Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA > +1-413-403-9555 > What's wrong with "ifconfig" ??? Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD
From: "Dan Pelleg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: RE: Linux vs. FreeBSD > > As has been said, the clients don't care much what the router is > running as long as it handles the packets correctly. > > I would strongly recommend FreeBSD for this and this is based on my > experience in a mixed FreeBSD/Linux shop. > > FreeBSD has excellent support for intelligent and traditional > packet filtering. ipfw can do all of the following: > - header-based filtering > - stateful filtering > - bandwidth shaping (make sure some server doesn't use more > than N bits/second, or even make sure no one server hogs the > entire bandwidth) - via dummynet > - "limit" rules (cap the number of connections a particular > server can have open at any given time) > > And all of these can be applied to either the internal, external, > or DMZ networks. NAT is also supported. > > I'm sure Linux has similar capabilities. But with FreeBSD you get > them in the base system - no need to go hunt for tarballs or > kernel patches (see below more on stability). > > As far as security is concerned, FreeBSD's record is excellent. When > people say "Linux" they often mean "Red Hat", who seem to have > a major mis-configuration problem and virus/worm attacks with every > single version they put out. I am sure there are Linux distros that > fare better on security but they rarely the advantages that Red > Hat is enjoying (these being support and large user base). > > FreeBSD systems are easy to maintain. You can do a source upgrade, > or a binary upgrade, and the system will go through it and boot > to the new version without a hitch. On one system I have I've gone from > FreeBSD 4.1 to 4.7, including every release in between, without ever > touching the console. When a major version comes out, I typically > upgrade 10 systems in multiple locations, all within half a day > without leaving my office. > > When security advisories come out, they are published quickly, and yet give > accurate description of the problem and its impact, letting you make an > informed decision. They also provide tested workarounds and pointers to > source and binary patches, which make your life as administrator > easy. Again, being on both the FreeBSD and Red Hat security advisory > mailing-lists, I can tell you none of these points are to be taken for > granted for even the biggest and most trusted vendor. > > Linux and its various distros has its merits and is certainly a system of > choice for certain uses. But if your time and sanity are worth anything to > you, you'd better put FreeBSD on this system. > > -- > Dan Pelleg I'd second a great deal of this. When I was first introduced to what lay behind the Internet, everyone was talking about the Penguin, but I've discovered that FreeBSD has a richer background, classic roots, and extremely confident and competent individual users and maintainers who go an extra mile to make it a top-notch server OS. Kudos to all! Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources?
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Lubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Drew Raines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Where are the 4.7 release sources? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE/ > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions / > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edg e.html Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Shlight help plz
From: "RD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Shlight help plz > Hi guys, > >I'm having some trouble here. I'm sorda a noob to unix, so plz bare > with me J > > I've searched all the shlight list archives > > I found the startup shel script > > #!/bin/sh > > case "$1" in > > 'start') > > /usr/local/sbin/shlight //papabear/myftp /usr/FTP -w -P > ou812ou812 > > ;; > > > 'stop') > > # Trivial (you may be able to produce something less > > # hamfisted than this) stop script: > > /usr/bin/killall shlight > > ;; > > > > *) > > echo "Usage: $0 { start | stop }" > > exit 1 > > ;; > > esac > > exit 0 Which I assume is located as follows: /usr/local/sbin/slight?? > > I'm getting an error ( local package initialization : Samba/etc/rc: > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/shlight.sh: not found ? > So, the Samba startup script can't find the shlight startup script because it's looking for /usr/local/etc/rc.d/shlight.sh > Is this because samba needs 30 seconds or so to settle maybe? > > I can't access my smb shares from w32 for a few seconds after login > prompt. > > I can login and run the shlight command and it mounts ok without error, > so I'm wondering if > > I need to make the shlight startup sleep or something for a certain > amount of time maybe ? > > Methinks in light of the notes above, you have 3-4 options: 1. Reinstall shlight with a different installdir. (Ouch!) 2. cp /usr/local/bin/shlight to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ (or whatever that said up there...) 3. #cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ # ln -s /usr/bin/slight ./slight 4. Change the Samba rc script to use the correct path. Your guess is good as mine as to which is better. What you've found, I guess, is that some folks run more like to Linux/GNU than BSD/tradish when writing makefiles. It's something that keeps life interesting :-) > Tx in advance > > RD > HTH, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message