Re: ! why?

2004-03-25 Thread James Gallagher
On 25 Mar 2004, at 21:37, __Clint__ wrote:

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] email was a one-time disposable
email address that I only ever gave to FreeBSD.org.
Well, you started out with the right strategy, but you abandoned it  
too
soon.  You've now blown what looks like your real email address.   
Never
reveal your true email address, for it can be used against you.
How have I blown it?  I sent a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I got
spammed.  The automatic bounceback said to send it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  If [EMAIL PROTECTED] is actually a mail  
list,
I was never told.

So yes -- maybe it's been blown (even further) now.

But that is due to your poor bounceback message.

1) I get spam
2) I complain to abuse
3) it bounces with a message to use another address
4) I guess, from what you've said, that address is a mail list
so in exchange for complaining about you selling my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] email address to spammers, you have now
redirected me into unknowningly posting to a mail list, thereby causing
more spam.
Maybe when I get spam I should just sit here helpless and do nothing.

But that didn't work well for the jews in WWII.
Complacency is not an attitude I like to adopt.
Clint,

Try to put things in perspective. You're saying you've received email  
you don't want - don't compare yourself to victims of the Holocaust.  
That drops your credibility to a lot less than 0. Secondly, you rant  
about creating an email address that is specific to this group, and  
expect us to derive from that, that you are an uber SPAM aware blocker.  
Then you plead newbie ignorance when you posted to an email address  
that you could have checked out with a trivial Google search. Here's a  
hint:  
http://www.google.com/search?q=freebsd- 
questions%40freebsd.orgsourceid=mozilla-searchstart=0start=0ie=utf 
-8oe=utf-8 - look at the search terms. Trivial. You're not a victim of  
SPAM, you're an attention seeker. Go and look for help with that issue  
on another list.

James


Re: Simplifying FreeBSD Installation

2004-03-08 Thread James Gallagher
On 8 Mar 2004, at 22:44, Jerry McAllister wrote:

It might help to have some wizards for network setup, but in the 
FreeBSD
world, the network topologies are many and varied.   So, just doing a
MS predestination trick and creating a wizard that limits you to 
someone's
narrow idea of a network would cause more trouble than just learning 
how
to do it right.   A couple of wizards to do a couple of very basic, no
extras setups for say a dialup and a NIC hookup to an existing and
well functioning lan might be useful, but FreeBSD goes so much beyond 
that
that it leaves the world of wizards far behind.

I like the point you make there. Wizards can't cover all the network 
configurations that some people may want. There is a simple wizard 
which will get you started, did the job for my 
workstation-cum-fileserver. But you're given the tools to do what we 
want. That's the value proposition for FreeBSD, it's meant to be 
configurable. Perhaps at the expense of 'friendliness', but it's never 
friendly at the expense of being open to configuration.

No one is going to move to FreeBSD if all they want is someone to do
everything for them.   That type of person will not be swayed by 
evidence
of a more powerful, better supported, more secure system.   They are
only interested in not doing anything.   Most of them would prefer not
to even have to stick in a CD or DVD if possible.   So, FreeBSD or any
of the other real OSen will not attract them.
I thought that was a bit harsh. Different things for different people 
and I'm sure if  all people could, they would love to prevent their 
computers from doing harm.

You (Gerard) also should consider that there is a vast difference 
between the *BSD culture and the Linux culture, IMHO. There isn't the 
same desire to convert everyone, there's no jumping up and down 
screaming about the GPL etc. etc. The *BSD community wants the best OS 
not the most widely used OS. Being the best takes effort on everyone's 
part. Using a computer should be easy, but a *BSD is intended for a 
massive array of purposes. Many of which are hard, no other way of 
looking at it.

My loose change :)

James

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Re: cvsup gets connection refused

2004-02-21 Thread James Gallagher
On 20 Feb 2004, at 01:35, Tiller Beauchamp wrote:

On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 06:25, James Gallagher wrote:
Hi Carl,

Just out of curiosity, do you have a firewall between your BSD box and
the cvs server you're trying to connect to? Alternatively, have you
tested another cvs server? The reason I ask about the firewall is that
I had a similar problem recently which turned out to be a particular
port being blocked. I can look back and see what it was if you think
it's relevant. It's the only thing I can think of right now.
I've been suffering from this same connection refused problem.  I'd be
interested to know which ports those were.
Tiller,

Really sorry for the delay responding. I didn't have a note of those 
changes, so had to check it out:
cvsup connects from a high port to 5999 on the CVS server
cvsup reads from 5999 on the CVS server.

These settings allow me to cvsup to one of the Aussie mirrors.

HTH

James

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Re: cvsup gets connection refused

2004-02-10 Thread James Gallagher
Hi Carl,

Just out of curiosity, do you have a firewall between your BSD box and 
the cvs server you're trying to connect to? Alternatively, have you 
tested another cvs server? The reason I ask about the firewall is that 
I had a similar problem recently which turned out to be a particular 
port being blocked. I can look back and see what it was if you think 
it's relevant. It's the only thing I can think of right now.

James

On 10 Feb 2004, at 14:38, Carl Libra wrote:

When starting cvsup I get the message connection refused when trying 
to FTP. I think it takes the user id from my server and uses that ... 
and that's not known at the download server ofcourse.

Where can I configure to use an anonymous userid or is there another 
way to solve this.

Thanks,
Carl
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