Panic: vrele: negative ref cnt

2006-05-07 Thread Robert H. Perry
I received a panic message (see Subject) yesterday following a GNOME
upgrade.  The upgrade was successful but I encountered subsequent problems
trying to access Firefox websites and my mail site in Thunderbird.  I
noticed a Plugin error message in Firefox and prepared to paste it into a
message to the mailing list but was unable to get a connection and
eventually lost it.

I reset my modem several times then decided to reboot.  First, I re-enabled
my firewall then entered shutdown -r now.  Next I received the panic message
and a repeat of the following:

READ_DMA ad0:Timeout - Read_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA = 28162271
READ_DMA ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51 READY, DSC, ERROR error = 40
Uncorrectable  LBA =28162271

Unfortunately, this may not have been exactly how the message read.  I was
sort of in a panic state myself.
Another message indicated there was no request/requirement to dump.

I run FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE.

Your advice is appreciated.  Thnx,
Bob Perry

  
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RE: Panic: vrele: negative ref cnt

2006-05-07 Thread Robert H. Perry


-Original Message-
From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:20 PM
To: Robert H. Perry
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Panic: vrele: negative ref cnt

On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 03:16:46PM -0400, Robert H. Perry wrote:
 I received a panic message (see Subject) yesterday following a GNOME
 upgrade.  The upgrade was successful but I encountered subsequent problems
 trying to access Firefox websites and my mail site in Thunderbird.  I
 noticed a Plugin error message in Firefox and prepared to paste it into a
 message to the mailing list but was unable to get a connection and
 eventually lost it.
 
 I reset my modem several times then decided to reboot.  First, I
re-enabled
 my firewall then entered shutdown -r now.  Next I received the panic
message
 and a repeat of the following:
 
 READ_DMA ad0:Timeout - Read_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA = 28162271
 READ_DMA ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51 READY, DSC, ERROR error = 40
 Uncorrectable  LBA =28162271

Your hard drive is dying.  This may have caused the panic as a
secondary effect after the read failed.


Thanks for taking the time to respond.  Not good news obviously, but could
be worse.  This is my mule machine. I was using it as a gateway, to develop
some networking skills, and had installed SAMBA and was also trying to
install HylaFAX .  Fortunately it has a second hard drive which currently
holds the /var slice.  Out with the bad and in with the good.

BTW, can the data on this drive be copied to the surviving drive?  What
commands do I need to review?  My initial thoughts were to simply install
6.0 and go on from there.  Any hints/suggestions are appreciated.

Bob 

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Re: Resolved: Need Assistance Upgrading Ethereal-0.10.13_3 to 0.10.14

2006-01-07 Thread Robert H. Perry

Nagilum wrote:

Hi Bob,

It seems you caught the port in a unstable moment where the patch could
not be applied for some reason. This was probably only a very brief
moment so the next cvsup/portsnap update fixed the problem.
Kind regards,

Robert H. Perry wrote:



 Original Message 
Subject: Need Assistance Upgrading Ethereal-0.10.13_3 to 0.10.14
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:52:21 -0500
From: Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

FreeBSD sphinx.my.domain 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0:

Ran into the following error while running portupgrade on ethereal:

== applying extra patch
/usr/ports/net/ethereal/files/extra-patch-capture_loop.c
***Error code 1

Stop in usr/ports/net/ethereal.
Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade43330.26 make
** Fix the problem and try again.

The recommendation Fix the problem and try again.
seems relatively straightforward, however...
Is this an error I should know how to easily fix?  Please advise.

Thnx

Just want to report that the error noted above did not re-occur during
this week's upgrade.  Have no idea how, or why.



Nagilum,
Thanks for the explanation.  If I come across another message like this, 
I'll know to use a little patience as my first step.


Bob

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Resolved: Need Assistance Upgrading Ethereal-0.10.13_3 to 0.10.14

2006-01-06 Thread Robert H. Perry



 Original Message 
Subject: Need Assistance Upgrading Ethereal-0.10.13_3 to 0.10.14
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:52:21 -0500
From: Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

FreeBSD sphinx.my.domain 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0:

Ran into the following error while running portupgrade on ethereal:

== applying extra patch
/usr/ports/net/ethereal/files/extra-patch-capture_loop.c
***Error code 1

Stop in usr/ports/net/ethereal.
Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade43330.26 make
** Fix the problem and try again.

The recommendation Fix the problem and try again.
seems relatively straightforward, however...
Is this an error I should know how to easily fix?  Please advise.

Thnx

Just want to report that the error noted above did not re-occur during 
this week's upgrade.  Have no idea how, or why.


Bob Perry

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Need Assistance Upgrading Ethereal-0.10.13_3 to 0.10.14

2005-12-30 Thread Robert H. Perry

FreeBSD sphinx.my.domain 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0:

Ran into the following error while running portupgrade on ethereal:

== applying extra patch 
/usr/ports/net/ethereal/files/extra-patch-capture_loop.c

***Error code 1

Stop in usr/ports/net/ethereal.
Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portupgrade43330.26 make

** Fix the problem and try again.

The recommendation Fix the problem and try again.
seems relatively straightforward, however...
Is this an error I should know how to easily fix?  Please advise.

Thnx
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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-30 Thread Robert H. Perry

Daniel wrote:

On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Robert H. Perry wrote:


Robert H. Perry wrote:



Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also
run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2,
and Windows XP).

My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share
it with the other 3 systems.

I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from
source.



I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
sendfax man page as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:...

I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:



What version of hylafax was installed?

hylafax-4.2.1_3


Make sure you install gawk.

gawk-3.1.1_1 installed


The native awk binary in FBSD is nawk (not gawk) which caused me some
greif with hylafax scripts.

So, update ports. Remove hylafax. Install gawk. Reinstall hylafax.
Hope you noticed the second note sent last night.  This one was sent 
unfinished.  Also note that I have mgetty-1.1.33 installed.


Bob


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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-30 Thread Robert H. Perry

Daniel wrote:

On 12/1/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Daniel wrote:


On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Robert H. Perry wrote:



Robert H. Perry wrote:




Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also
run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2,
and Windows XP).

My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share
it with the other 3 systems.

I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from
source.



I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
sendfax man page as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:...

I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:



What version of hylafax was installed?


hylafax-4.2.1_3


Make sure you install gawk.


gawk-3.1.1_1 installed


The native awk binary in FBSD is nawk (not gawk) which caused me some
greif with hylafax scripts.

So, update ports. Remove hylafax. Install gawk. Reinstall hylafax.


Hope you noticed the second note sent last night.  This one was sent
unfinished.  Also note that I have mgetty-1.1.33 installed.



I don't have mgetty installed, but I do have hylafax 4.2.1_1
installed, gawk 3.1.1_1, and some mime ports (mime-support and
metamail) to allow for sending electronic faxes via e-mail to people
in our company.

I issued the exact same sendfax command:
# sendfax -n -d 5551212 /etc/passwd

Of course changing 5551212 for one of my faxes and it sent fine.

When I started this course of action in setting up hylafax I had no
idea about faxes either.
I basically followed the instructions on
http://www.hylafax.org/howto/install.html#ss2.2

I skipped section 2.2.3 because hylafax was installed. I didn't
install mgetty either.

I added the line:
cuaa0   /usr/local/sbin/faxgetty  dialup  on  secure
Into /etc/ttys under serial consoles (location probably don't matter)
and then ran:
init q
to rescan the /etc/ttys file.

You also want to copy /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh.sample to
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh. This doesn't use rcng so you can just
run /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh start which will/should fire up the
hylafax daemon.

You don't need to worry about the cronjobs (they're there for cleaning
up and can be delt with later).

So at this point, make sure you do init q and run the rc.d/hylafax.sh
start or just reboot.

Provided that you completed 2.2.4 (adding modems and configuring setup
in general) without any dramas at all from the howto you should be
able to run the sendfax command.

Are you also certain your modem is operating correctly? You could run
the bash shell and then type echo atdt089231414141414  /dev/cuaa0 and
the modem should dial whatever number after atdt and you should either
hear it through the modem speaker, see it with the lites on the modem
or the phone should ring (if you put your phone number or mobile
number in).

You should also try using the basic default settings for adding new modems.

If you havn't removed hylafax and reinstalled (making sure that the
deinstall deleted everything) I'd do that now.

To make sure all files it creates are gone you could run:
pkg_info -L hylafax\*  hylafax-files

Then deinstall hylafax

Then: cat hylafax-files and see if any of the files listed still exist.

I hope this helps a bit more.



Dan,
This will be a tremendous help.  I already see answers to questions I 
hadn't posted yet and suggestions which will help me better understand 
some of the printed material.  Will keep you posted.


Bob Perry
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Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Robert H. Perry
Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax 
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also run 
another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2, and 
Windows XP).


My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share it 
with the other 3 systems.


I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the 
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from source.


I don't have a lot expertise with modems and facsimiles so I'm 
considering starting with something a little less complex.  Can anyone 
recommend a fax app for a newbie?


Thnx,

Bob Perry
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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Robert H. Perry

Robert H. Perry wrote:
Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax 
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also run 
another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2, and 
Windows XP).


My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share it 
with the other 3 systems.


I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the 
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from source.


I don't have a lot expertise with modems and facsimiles so I'm 
considering starting with something a little less complex.  Can anyone 
recommend a fax app for a newbie?


Thnx,

Bob Perry

I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original 
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.



I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received an 
unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the sendfax man page 
as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:... 


I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:

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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Robert H. Perry

Robert H. Perry wrote:

Robert H. Perry wrote:

Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax 
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also 
run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2, 
and Windows XP).


My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share 
it with the other 3 systems.


I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the 
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from 
source.


I don't have a lot expertise with modems and facsimiles so I'm 
considering starting with something a little less complex.  Can anyone 
recommend a fax app for a newbie?


Thnx,

Bob Perry


I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
sendfax man page as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:...

I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:

WARNING: are you sure that this is a G3 fax file? Doesn't seem to be...

My understanding is that sendfax automatically converts ASCII-text 
documents through to the server, so I'm a little confused.  Before 
responding, please also understand that I know very little about modems, 
and facsimiles. Don't assume anything please.


Bob Perry

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Re: Startx Missing Following Portupgrade

2005-11-20 Thread Robert H. Perry

David Armour wrote:

hello rob,

from /usr/ports/UPDATING:
20051113:
  AFFECTS: users of x11/xterm, x11/xorg-clients, x11/XFree86-4-clients
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Xterm no longer installs with '-static' prefix. Users should upgrade
  XFree86-clients to 4.5.0_1 or xorg-clients to 6.8.2_1 or newer before
  attempting upgrade of xterm to 206_1 or newer. Previous versions 
remove xterm on deinstall so CONFLICTS have been set accordingly.


i only discovered this myself recently. hth.



Thanks David,

I read the warning in UPDATING.  My problem was performing the upgrade 
while half asleep.  I paid a price during the GNOME upgrade as well.


Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
Bob Perry
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Startx Missing Following Portupgrade

2005-11-19 Thread Robert H. Perry

Hi,
I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0 on two machines and just CVSup'd my 
systems last night finishing with portupgrade this morning.  I ran into 
a problem with machine #1.  I ran portupgrade and stumbled with the 
xterm and x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig upgrades.  I tried to run startx to 
google the problems but got: command not found.


Reinstalling linux-base seemed to resolve the x11-fonts problem.  I then 
  deinstalled, and reinstalled xorg-clients to upgrade it and ran 
portupgrade -aRr.  No more apparent problems.  However, still unable to 
run startx.  I searched /usr/X11R6/bin and couldn't locate the file either.


The second machine was also upgrading and I noticed the same/similar 
failure to install xterm 206_1 due to a conflict with xorg-clients.  I 
haven't attempted to fix it yet for fear of losing startx here also.


I'm thinking of deinstalling/reinstalling one, or more ports to 
reinstall startx on machine #1.  (Not sure which ones, however). Any 
suggestions?


Thnx,
Bob Perry

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Re: Inconsistency Running IPF Against FTPs

2005-11-19 Thread Robert H. Perry

Kevin Kinsey wrote:

Robert H. Perry wrote:

I'm running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and recently installed IPF Firewall. I 
rarely download files using FTP but have little choice using 
portupgrade. Now, during an upgrade, I often see the error message, 
No route to host...
while connecting with an FTP site.  If I disable the IPF/IPNAT rules 
the problem no longer exists.


I've followed installation instructions in the Handbook paying particular
attention to the section on IPNAT rules.  (I do not claim to entirely 
understand
what I read however.)  My immediate question however is how current 
are the
instructions?  There is a caveat immediately following the IPF 
Firewall Section
title: This section is work in progress. The contents might not be 
accurate at
all times.  If it is accurate and should resolve my FTP problems, 
I'll simply re-read

it until I get it right.

Any other hints are also appreciated.



This would probably fall under your other hints category.

Your firewall should be allowing extant connections to continue --- IOW, 
showing

stateful behavior.   Some FTP data connections use high-numbered ports, and
it sounds as if these are being blocked by your firewall.  YMMV.

Note that setting FTP_PASSIVE_MODE in your environment might be
worth a shot.

I am sorry that I'm not an IPF user and can't give more detailed help.
Good luck with your issue.

Kevin Kinsey


Thank you for your suggestions.  I do run stateful rules and may try 
passive FTP.


I just upgraded with portupgrade and noticed some FTP issues (i.e. no 
route to host) so I flushed out the ipnat tables and things improved. 
Is that my imagination or just coincidence?


And Daniel, thanks for your suggestions including the active/passive 
illustrations.


Bob Perry
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Re: Startx Missing Following Portupgrade

2005-11-19 Thread Robert H. Perry

Robert H. Perry wrote:

Hi,
I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0 on two machines and just CVSup'd my 
systems last night finishing with portupgrade this morning.  I ran into 
a problem with machine #1.  I ran portupgrade and stumbled with the 
xterm and x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig upgrades.  I tried to run startx to 
google the problems but got: command not found.


Reinstalling linux-base seemed to resolve the x11-fonts problem.  I then 
  deinstalled, and reinstalled xorg-clients to upgrade it and ran 
portupgrade -aRr.  No more apparent problems.  However, still unable to 
run startx.  I searched /usr/X11R6/bin and couldn't locate the file either.


The second machine was also upgrading and I noticed the same/similar 
failure to install xterm 206_1 due to a conflict with xorg-clients.  I 
haven't attempted to fix it yet for fear of losing startx here also.


I'm thinking of deinstalling/reinstalling one, or more ports to 
reinstall startx on machine #1.  (Not sure which ones, however). Any 
suggestions?


Thnx,
Bob Perry



Pls disregard.  Xorgclients was missing entirely.

Bob Perry
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Re: Inconsistency Running IPF Against FTPs

2005-11-15 Thread Robert H. Perry

Kevin Kinsey wrote:

Robert H. Perry wrote:

I'm running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and recently installed IPF Firewall. I 
rarely download files using FTP but have little choice using 
portupgrade. Now, during an upgrade, I often see the error message, 
No route to host...
while connecting with an FTP site.  If I disable the IPF/IPNAT rules 
the problem no longer exists.


I've followed installation instructions in the Handbook paying particular
attention to the section on IPNAT rules.  (I do not claim to entirely 
understand
what I read however.)  My immediate question however is how current 
are the
instructions?  There is a caveat immediately following the IPF 
Firewall Section
title: This section is work in progress. The contents might not be 
accurate at
all times.  If it is accurate and should resolve my FTP problems, 
I'll simply re-read

it until I get it right.

Any other hints are also appreciated.



This would probably fall under your other hints category.

Your firewall should be allowing extant connections to continue --- IOW, 
showing

stateful behavior.   Some FTP data connections use high-numbered ports, and
it sounds as if these are being blocked by your firewall.  YMMV.

Note that setting FTP_PASSIVE_MODE in your environment might be
worth a shot.

I am sorry that I'm not an IPF user and can't give more detailed help.
Good luck with your issue.


Thanks for your suggestions.  Do all other firewalls share the same, or 
similar problems, with FTP data connections?


Bob Perry

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Inconsistency Running IPF Against FTPs

2005-11-14 Thread Robert H. Perry
I'm running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and recently installed IPF Firewall.  I 
rarely download files using FTP but have little choice using 
portupgrade.  Now, during an upgrade, I often see the error message, No 
route to host... while connecting with an FTP site.  If I disable the 
IPF/IPNAT rules the problem no longer exists.


I've followed installation instructions in the Handbook paying 
particular attention to the section on IPNAT rules.  (I do not claim to 
entirely understand what I read however.)  My immediate question however 
is how current are the instructions?  There is a caveat immediately 
following the IPF Firewall Section title: This section is work in 
progress. The contents might not be accurate at all times.  If it is 
accurate and should resolve my FTP problems, I'll simply re-read it 
until I get it right.


Any other hints are also appreciated.

Thnx,
Bob Perry


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Re: GNOME Upgrade on a non-GNOME Machine

2005-11-12 Thread Robert H. Perry

Kan Cai wrote:
Yes. I did it a few days as /usr/ports/UPDATING suggests. It worked but 
it took too much time (1.5 days). This is because a lot packages depend 
on glib and gtk, so they have to be upgraded as well. I am just 
wondering if there is any way to accerlerate the process.


cheers,
--ken

On 11/11/05, *Robert H. Perry* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


I have a box which needs to upgrade gconf, glib, gnomevfs, and gtk based
on the latest CVSup.  Just want to confirm that I should still run the
gnome_upgrade.sh even though GNOME itself is not installed.

Thnx,
Bob Perry
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That's what I wanted to hear.

Thanks for your response.

Bob Perry
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GNOME Upgrade on a non-GNOME Machine

2005-11-11 Thread Robert H. Perry
I have a box which needs to upgrade gconf, glib, gnomevfs, and gtk based 
on the latest CVSup.  Just want to confirm that I should still run the 
gnome_upgrade.sh even though GNOME itself is not installed.


Thnx,
Bob Perry
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Re: Upgrading the kernel

2004-01-26 Thread Robert H. Perry
Ryan Thompson wrote:

Robert H. Perry wrote to FreeBSD-Questions:

 

I'm upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE to 4.8 RELEASE soon.  My understanding
is that once you have built the world with buildworld, it's time to
build and install the new kernel.
   

In your scenario, yes, you'll definitely want to build a new kernel. In
fact, I hope you elected to go with the security branch (RELENG_4_8), so
that you get the 13 or so security related fixes that have been applied
since 4.8 was released.
Hadn't intended to, but now I'll have to consider it.  This is my first 
upgrade and I was sticking with the basics.

 

My current kernel is customized with a sound card device and nothing
else.
   

That's fine; you can continue to use your kernel config.
(/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/WHATEVERYOUCALLEDYOURKERNELCONFIG)
 

The  FreeBSD Handbook indicates that the safest way to do this is to
build and install a kernel based on GENERIC.  After booting from
GENERIC and verifying that your system works you can then customize
your kernel.
   

Well, you can if you want, but you won't have any issues from 4.7 -
4.8. I'd just go with your custom kernel config.
 

Can I use the commands, # make buildkernel and # make installkernel,
or are #make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC and # make installkernel
KERNCONF=GENERIC the correct commands?
   

Have you specified KERNCONF in /etc/make.conf?

No.

If not, then it defaults
to GENERIC. In your case, though, again, you shouldn't have any problems
building from your custom conf.
Just to clarify then, is the following OK:

# cd /usr/src
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM
# make installkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM
CUSTOM is the name of my kernel config file.

- Ryan

 



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Resolved: How to Handle Stale Dependencies in pkgdb -F

2003-11-17 Thread Robert H. Perry
Lee Harr wrote:

Is docbook-3.0_2 still registered as installed on your system? I think
that
is the one it is looking for. It is possible that when upgrading one
of the
others, that one was removed inadvertently.


No, it is not registered as installed.  As a matter of fact, none of the
docbooks mentioned
are installed except dockbook-xsl-1.62.3.  In addition, the sgmlformat
port is not installed either.

 I always understood that stale dependencies indicated that a change was
necessary.   In this
situation, the 6 dependencies in question, including the port itself,
weren't even registered or installed
yet.  I just feel that something is missing here.  However, I think I'm
ready to move on to the next
step which is how to respond to the prompt:
New dependency? (? to help) :

If you hit ?, you'll see:
[Enter] to skip, [Ctrl] + [D] to delete, [.][Enter] to abort, [Tab] to
complete.
I looked at the R-deps listed with the port description and they also
correspond to the 6 shown above.
As a result, I feel confident that they should be registerd and
installed with the port and not the one
pkgdb suggests, dockbook-xsl-1.62.3.  I assume that I can delete
dockbook-xsl-1.62.3, but is that what
[Ctrl]+[D] will accomplish?  In other words, does new dependency refer
to the dependent that
it sees as the closest match, dockbook-xsl-1.62.3, or the one that is
recorded by the port, docbook-3.1_2?
Which would I be deleting?


Not sure. Good question though  :o)

I think there are 2 possibilities:
- delete the dependency on docbook-3.1_2 (not the package itself)
- delete the entire entry for sgmlformat
I am pretty sure that nothing you do at that prompt will affect
docbook-xsl in any way. (other than to create a dependency on it)
My sense is that it would delete the dependency. In other words, you
would be saying sgmlformat no longer depends on docbook-3.1_2
and there is no dependency to replace it
In your case, where none of these things are in your package database,
I think you have to decide if these are packages you require, and if so,
start rebuilding and reinstalling them to recreate their entries.
Otherwise, you could pkg_deinstall the one that is giving you problems
and move on.
I just started using portupgrade myself (after a couple of years of doing
these things by hand *erk*) so maybe someone else will chime in and
let us know if we are on the right track.
Lee,
I think you were on the right track from the beginning.  The program found
sgmlformat-1.7_2 but couldn't locate the dependents it was pointing to
so it suggested it's own, dockbook-xsl-1.62.3.  Should have focused on the
docbook ports at that point.  I simply couldn't deal with the idea that 
installing
the docbook dependents would help when the main port, sgmlformat-1.7_2, 
hadn't been installed yet.  Furthermore, I was simply too focused on 
resolving the
issue by using the New dependency prompt.

I installed the docbook ports (ran docbook-1.2_1 and the rest followed 
as deps),
followed by pkgdb -F, and everything was OK.

Thanks again for your help.
Bob


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Re: How to Handle Stale Dependencies in pkgdb -F

2003-11-09 Thread Robert H. Perry
Lee Harr wrote:

pkg_info -ro sgmlformat-1.7_2, I get the following:
Information for sgmlformat-1.7_2:
Depends on:
Dependency: xmlcatmgr-1.1
Dependency: iso8879-1986_2
Dependency: jade-1.2.1_5
Dependency: linuxdoc-1.1_1
Dependency: docbook-4.1_2
Dependency: docbook-4.0_2
Dependency: docbook-3.1_2


This is from the dockbook-310 port. The _2 is the port revision.

Dependency: docbook-3.0_2
Dependency: docbook-241_2
Dependency: docbook-1.2_1
Origin:
textproc/sgmlformat

Or, since docbook already depends on all of those other docbook
components,
maybe you can just point the dependency at the docbook package


Do you mean that I can answer the New dependency? prompt with 
Ctrl-Del?


Well... I am not using docbook, so I am not exactly sure. It looks to me
like the docbook port may be a meta port to pull in all of those 
docbook
versions. I am not sure if you have that one installed, or if you just 
have
all of the pieces.

Is docbook-3.0_2 still registered as installed on your system? I think 
that
is the one it is looking for. It is possible that when upgrading one 
of the
others, that one was removed inadvertently.
No, it is not registered as installed.  As a matter of fact, none of the 
docbooks mentioned
are installed except dockbook-xsl-1.62.3.  In addition, the sgmlformat 
port is not installed either.

I see now that a major part of the problem was that I never understood 
what was
happening when I ran pkgdb -F.  And it wasn't until I read your original 
note a
second time that things became clearer.  You wrote:

The dependency is recorded as docbook-3.1_2 and it does not
see that package, so it is suggesting the package it believes is 
the closest 
match.  (dockbook-xsl-1.62.3)

I always understood that stale dependencies indicated that a change was 
necessary.   In this
situation, the 6 dependencies in question, including the port itself, 
weren't even registered or installed
yet.  I just feel that something is missing here.  However, I think I'm 
ready to move on to the next
step which is how to respond to the prompt:

New dependency? (? to help) :

If you hit ?, you'll see:
[Enter] to skip, [Ctrl] + [D] to delete, [.][Enter] to abort, [Tab] to 
complete.

I looked at the R-deps listed with the port description and they also 
correspond to the 6 shown above.
As a result, I feel confident that they should be registerd and 
installed with the port and not the one
pkgdb suggests, dockbook-xsl-1.62.3.  I assume that I can delete 
dockbook-xsl-1.62.3, but is that what
[Ctrl]+[D] will accomplish?  In other words, does new dependency refer 
to the dependent that
it sees as the closest match, dockbook-xsl-1.62.3, or the one that is 
recorded by the port, docbook-3.1_2?
Which would I be deleting?

Thanks again.
Bob
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How to Handle Stale Dependencies in pkgdb -F

2003-11-08 Thread Robert H. Perry
Hi,

Just ran my weekly cvsup program followed by portsbd -Uu.  Tried running 
portsversion -l and received a message indicating that I should run 
pkgdb -F to deal with a stale dependency.  Note following:

Stale dependency: sgmlformat-1.7_2 - docbook-3.1_2 (textproc/docbook-310):
docbook-xsl-1.62.3 (score:43%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll)
My understanding here is that I'm to choose between the dependency the 
port has recorded, docbook-3.1_2, or the one installed, 
docbook-xsl-1.62.3. 
I took a look at the sgmlformat-1.7_2 port and found the following:

R-deps: docbook-1.2_1 docbook-241_2 docbook-3.0_2 docbook-3.1_2 
docbook-4.0_2 do cbook-4.1_2 iso8879-1986_2 jade-1.2.1_5 linuxdoc-1.1_1 
xmlcatmgr-1.1

I went back to the prompt in the pkgdb program and indicated no.  This 
was followed by:

New dependency? (? to help):

Wasn't sure how to respond, so I aborted the program and ran pkgdb -Fa 
which didn't fix the dependencies either.  It did, however repeat the 
stale dependency prompt for all 6 of the docbook dependencies shown above.

Can anyone help me understand what the program is looking for at the new 
dependency prompt?  I was about to respond with a delete command but 
wasnt' sure what I would be deleting?  I did backup /var/db/pkg.

Thank you.

Bob Perry

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Re: How to Handle Stale Dependencies in pkgdb -F

2003-11-08 Thread Robert H. Perry
Lee Harr wrote:

Just ran my weekly cvsup program followed by portsbd -Uu.  Tried running
portsversion -l and received a message indicating that I should run
pkgdb -F to deal with a stale dependency.  Note following:
Stale dependency: sgmlformat-1.7_2 - docbook-3.1_2 
(textproc/docbook-310):
docbook-xsl-1.62.3 (score:43%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll)

My understanding here is that I'm to choose between the dependency the
port has recorded, docbook-3.1_2, or the one installed,
docbook-xsl-1.62.3.


Not exactly.  The dependency is recorded as docbook-3.1_2 and it does not
see that package, so it is suggesting the package it believes is the 
closest
match. (note however that it only scores docbook-xsl at 43%)

I took a look at the sgmlformat-1.7_2 port and found the following:

R-deps: docbook-1.2_1 docbook-241_2 docbook-3.0_2 docbook-3.1_2
docbook-4.0_2 do cbook-4.1_2 iso8879-1986_2 jade-1.2.1_5 linuxdoc-1.1_1
xmlcatmgr-1.1
Seems strange that it would depend on all of those different docbook
versions. That may be part of the problem... did you uninstall any of
those (or maybe portupgrade did it for you?)
Looking at the docbook port, it depends on
dockbook-241,300,310,400, and 410

I went back to the prompt in the pkgdb program and indicated no.  This
was followed by:
Good idea, given the low score.


New dependency? (? to help):

Wasn't sure how to respond, so I aborted the program and ran pkgdb -Fa
which didn't fix the dependencies either.  It did, however repeat the
stale dependency prompt for all 6 of the docbook dependencies shown 
above.

Can anyone help me understand what the program is looking for at the new
dependency prompt?  I was about to respond with a delete command but
wasnt' sure what I would be deleting?  I did backup /var/db/pkg.
I think if it were me, I would check to see if the docbook-310 port 
were still
installed correctly, and if not, install it and then try pkgdb -F again.
Not sure I understanad the need to examine docbook-310.  When I run 
pkg_info -ro sgmlformat-1.7_2, I get the following:
Information for sgmlformat-1.7_2:

Depends on:
Dependency: xmlcatmgr-1.1
Dependency: iso8879-1986_2
Dependency: jade-1.2.1_5
Dependency: linuxdoc-1.1_1
Dependency: docbook-4.1_2
Dependency: docbook-4.0_2
Dependency: docbook-3.1_2
Dependency: docbook-3.0_2
Dependency: docbook-241_2
Dependency: docbook-1.2_1
Origin:
textproc/sgmlformat


Or, since docbook already depends on all of those other docbook 
components,
maybe you can just point the dependency at the docbook package
Do you mean that I can answer the New dependency? prompt with Ctrl-Del?



Anyhow. I am no expert  :o)  Hope this helps.

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RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE vs RELENG_4_8

2003-10-26 Thread Robert H. Perry
I'm upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE and intended to build and install 4.8 
RELEASE.  It was recommended that I consider RELENG_4_8 because it 
contained some 13 security fixes.  I came across a CVS website 
indicating that the code was for security advisories  and other 
seriously critical fixes.   Does this mean that RELENG_4_8 does not have 
all of the code as RELEASE 4.8?  Is it any more or less stable?

Thank you.

Bob

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Re: RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE vs RELENG_4_8

2003-10-26 Thread Robert H. Perry
Jeremy Faulkner wrote:

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 11:52:11AM -0500, Robert H. Perry wrote:
 

I'm upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE and intended to build and install 4.8 
RELEASE.  It was recommended that I consider RELENG_4_8 because it 
contained some 13 security fixes.  I came across a CVS website 
indicating that the code was for security advisories  and other 
seriously critical fixes.   Does this mean that RELENG_4_8 does not have 
all of the code as RELEASE 4.8?  Is it any more or less stable?

Thank you.

Bob
   

RELENG_4_8 contains the same code as RELENG_4_8_0_RELEASE with the necessary
changes to fix the security bugs that were discovered after 4.8 was Released.
 

Thanks much for taking the time to respond Jeremy.

Bob

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Upgrading the kernel

2003-10-23 Thread Robert H. Perry
I'm upgrading from 4.7 RELEASE to 4.8 RELEASE soon.  My understanding is 
that once you have built the world with buildworld, it's time to build 
and install the new kernel.

My current kernel is customized with a sound card device and nothing else.

The  FreeBSD Handbook indicates that the safest way to do this is to 
build and install a kernel based on GENERIC.  After booting from GENERIC 
and verifying that your system works you can then customize your kernel.

Can I use the commands, # make buildkernel and # make installkernel, or 
are #make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC and # make installkernel 
KERNCONF=GENERIC the correct commands?

Thank you,
Bob
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Re: Upgrading the kernel

2003-10-23 Thread Robert H. Perry
Ryan Thompson wrote:

Robert H. Perry wrote to Ryan Thompson:

 

In your scenario, yes, you'll definitely want to build a new kernel.
In fact, I hope you elected to go with the security branch
(RELENG_4_8), so that you get the 13 or so security related fixes
that have been applied since 4.8 was released.
 

Hadn't intended to, but now I'll have to consider it.  This is my
first upgrade and I was sticking with the basics.
   

Yep. If you're upgrading from source anyway, upgrading to RELENG_4_8 is
no harder than -RELEASE.
 

If not, then it defaults to GENERIC. In your case, though, again,
you shouldn't have any problems building from your custom conf.
 

Just to clarify then, is the following OK:

# cd /usr/src
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM
# make installkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM
CUSTOM is the name of my kernel config file.
   

Yes. For the full how-to, follow the instructions in:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
- Ryan

 

Ryan,

Thanks for your time and assistance.

Bob

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Re: Upgrade to 4.8 RELEASE

2003-10-20 Thread Robert H. Perry

Hello,

I'm making plans to upgrade from 4.7 RELEASE to 4.8 RELEASE.  My 
previous attempt was a binary upgrade from 4.5 to 4.7 which did not go 
very well.  I eventually purchased the 4.7 CD.  

The FreeBSD Handbook stresses  backing up the system and implies that 
/dump/ is a better backup program.  Chapter 12.9.8.1 of  the handbook 
recommends having a copy of the boot and fixit floppies available and 
making sure they have all your devices, otherwise you'll need to prepare 
two bootable custom floppies  that contain /fdisk, disklabel, newfs, 
mount, /and your backup program.   It goes on to say that these programs 
must be statically linked.  I understand hard and soft links but I'm not 
familiar with static links.  The handbook also provides a script for 
creatinng a bootable floppy.
   

A static link is a firm link:) Seriously, static linking has nothing to
do with filesystem links. A statically linked program just uses no
shared libraries. AFAICT the programs in /stand (and /bin and /sbin) are
statically linked (note that those in /stand are also a crunchbox,
that is, a single monolithic program which runs differently depending
on the name it was run as). You really have to mess with this only if
you are going to write your own program to run from a boot floppy.
You can use file(1) if you want to see if a program is staticlally linked:

$ file /usr/bin/find 
/usr/bin/find: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 4.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
$ file /stand/find 
/stand/find: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 4.8, statically linked, stripped

Thanks for the education Sergey.  This makes a lot more sense now.

I never prepared a boot floppy when I initially installed 4.7 so I 
thought the handbook was suggesting a necessary alternative (?).  If 
it's not absolutely necessary, I'll skip it. 

Any suggestions relative to the upgrade process is also appreciated.

In fact, a source update isn't as dangerous as you expect.

That's what I've heard and I suspect you're right.  However, AFAICT, 
past failures have usually come as a result of not following the 
handbook.  Maybe this floppy is a bit of overkill though.

Thanks again.

Bob

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Upgrade to 4.8 RELEASE

2003-10-18 Thread Robert H. Perry
Hello,

I'm making plans to upgrade from 4.7 RELEASE to 4.8 RELEASE.  My 
previous attempt was a binary upgrade from 4.5 to 4.7 which did not go 
very well.  I eventually purchased the 4.7 CD.  

The FreeBSD Handbook stresses  backing up the system and implies that 
/dump/ is a better backup program.  Chapter 12.9.8.1 of  the handbook 
recommends having a copy of the boot and fixit floppies available and 
making sure they have all your devices, otherwise you'll need to prepare 
two bootable custom floppies  that contain /fdisk, disklabel, newfs, 
mount, /and your backup program.   It goes on to say that these programs 
must be statically linked.  I understand hard and soft links but I'm not 
familiar with static links.  The handbook also provides a script for 
creatinng a bootable floppy.

Can someone help me understand static link?  Secondly, can I assume that 
the script must be reviewed for likely modifications?  I'm just learning 
shell programming and if significant modifications are necessary, I may 
end up purchasing a CD for 4.8.

Any suggestions relative to the upgrade process is also appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob 

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