pkg version?

2012-12-07 Thread Walter Hurry
$ pkg query %v pkg
1.0.3
$ pkg -v
1.0.2
$ 

Why the discrepancy?

By the way:

## SVN ## - update to 1.0.3
## SVN ## - changes:
## SVN ##   * Accept to query _https._tcp srv records
## SVN ##   * Fix diskspace change calculation in pkg upgrade
## SVN ##   * Fix pkg info -s -F apackage

Excellent. Thanks, Matthew.

$ pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz
gcc-4.6.4.20121123 size is: 567 MB
$

Yep, that bit works.

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Re: pkg upgrade?

2012-12-04 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:27:15 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 I just committed a fix to the release-1.0 branch which will be in the
 next release.  Was already fixed in master.

Thanks!

Does that fix 'pkg info' reporting zero size, or the 'pkg update' 
misreporting of size difference, or both?

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Issue with the pkgng repository

2012-12-04 Thread Walter Hurry
I have another minor issue with pkgng:

Say package foo-1.0 depends on bar-1.0. Then bar-1.0 is upgraded to 
version 1.1.

So a new package bar-1.1 is built (from the port), and replaces bar-1.0 
in the repository. The repository database is then updated using 'pkg 
repo'. 

Now the repository database is out of whack: It still thinks foo-1.0 
depends on bar-1.0 (the deps table in the compressed repo.sqlite database 
- i.e. repo.txz in the repository).

Admittedly the packages will still install (from the repository in 
question) on another machine, but nevertheless it doesn't seem quite 
right.

One workaround is to re-create the foo package (plus any others depending 
on bar) and refresh the repository, but is this an omission?

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Re: pkg upgrade?

2012-12-04 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:10:41 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On 04/12/2012 20:48, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 04/12/2012 20:42, Walter Hurry wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:27:15 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 I just committed a fix to the release-1.0 branch which will be in the
 next release.  Was already fixed in master.

 Thanks!

 Does that fix 'pkg info' reporting zero size, or the 'pkg update'
 misreporting of size difference, or both?
 
 Oh, yes.  That was to fix pkg info getting the installed size of
 packages wrong when reading a pkg tarball.
 
 The other issue with pkg update had temporarily escaped me.
 
 Yeah.  Committed a fix for the pkg upgrade disk space thing too.  If you
 upgraded to a package that was smaller than the one it was replacing it
 would report the change in space used as the sum of the old and new
 sizes, when clearly it should be the difference.  D'Oh!  Surprised no
 one spotted that before now.

Excellent. Thanks again.

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Re: Issue with the pkgng repository

2012-12-04 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:32:19 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 This is a flaw in your package repository maintenance process.

Helpful and detailed response snipped for brevity

Thanks. Noted. I shall rethink the process accordingly.

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Re: pkg upgrade?

2012-12-03 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:32:48 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On 02/12/2012 21:51, Walter Hurry wrote:
 Copied from terminal and pasted here:
 --
 $ sudo pkg upgrade Updating repository catalogue Repository catalogue
 is up-to-date, no need to fetch fresh copy The following packages will
 be upgraded:
 
  Upgrading gcc: 4.6.4.20121102 - 4.6.4.20121123
 
 The installation will free 1 GB
 
 88 MB to be downloaded
 
 Proceed with upgrading packages [y/N]: y gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz
  100%   88MB   6.8MB/s   6.0MB/s 00:13 Checking integrity... done
 Upgrading gcc from 4.6.4.20121102 to 4.6.4.20121123... done $
 --
 OK, fine. But what's this about 1GB being freed?
 
 That's what pkg has calculated as the change in disk space usage
 resulting from replacing one version by another.  It certainly looks
 suspicious on the face of it: given the package size of 88MB and
 presuming the previous package wasn't orders of magnitude different in
 size it's hard to see where that size of change would come from.
 
 Do you still have the gcc-4.6.4.20121102 package around look in
 /var/cache/pkg/All)?  Can you try
 
pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121102.txz
 
 and
 
pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz
 
 please?
 
Curiouser and curiouser. This is from another machine, with gcc not yet 
upgraded but otherwise identical:
--
$ cd /var/cache/pkg
$ cd All
cd: All: No such file or directory
$ ls -l gcc*
-rw---  1 root  wheel  92395460 29 Nov 15:22 gcc-4.6.4.20121102.txz
-rw---  1 root  wheel  4360 29 Nov 15:32 gccmakedep-1.0.2.txz
$ sudo pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121102.txz
gcc-4.6.4.20121102 flat size is: 0 B
gcc-4.6.4.20121102 package size is: 0 B
$ cd /var/db/pkg
$ sqlite3 local.sqlite
SQLite version 3.7.14.1 2012-10-04 19:37:12
Enter .help for instructions
Enter SQL statements terminated with a ;
sqlite select version, flatsize from packages where name = 'gcc';
4.6.4.20121102|596779179
sqlite .quit
$ sqlite3 repo.sqlite
SQLite version 3.7.14.1 2012-10-04 19:37:12
Enter .help for instructions
Enter SQL statements terminated with a ;
sqlite select version, pkgsize, flatsize from packages where name = 
'gcc';
4.6.4.20121102|92395460|596779179
sqlite .quit
$ sudo pkg update
Updating repository catalogue
repo.txz100%  261KB 260.9KB/s 260.9KB/s   
00:00
$ sqlite3 repo.sqlite
SQLite version 3.7.14.1 2012-10-04 19:37:12
Enter .help for instructions
Enter SQL statements terminated with a ;
sqlite select version, pkgsize, flatsize from packages where name = 
'gcc';
4.6.4.20121123|92316676|595326810
sqlite .quit
$ sudo pkg upgrade
Updating repository catalogue
Repository catalogue is up-to-date, no need to fetch fresh copy
The following packages will be upgraded:

Upgrading gcc: 4.6.4.20121102 - 4.6.4.20121123

The installation will free 1 GB

88 MB to be downloaded

Proceed with upgrading packages [y/N]: y
gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz  100%   88MB   6.8MB/s  10.7MB/s   
00:13
Checking integrity... done
Upgrading gcc from 4.6.4.20121102 to 4.6.4.20121123... done
$ sqlite3 local.sqlite
SQLite version 3.7.14.1 2012-10-04 19:37:12
Enter .help for instructions
Enter SQL statements terminated with a ;
sqlite select version, flatsize from packages where name = 'gcc';
4.6.4.20121123|595326810
sqlite .quit
$ cd /var/cache/pkg
$ ls -l gcc*
-rw---  1 root  wheel  92395460 29 Nov 15:22 gcc-4.6.4.20121102.txz
-rw---  1 root  wheel  92316676  3 Dec 14:46 gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz
-rw---  1 root  wheel  4360 29 Nov 15:32 gccmakedep-1.0.2.txz
$ sudo pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz
gcc-4.6.4.20121123 flat size is: 0 B
gcc-4.6.4.20121123 package size is: 0 B
$ 

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Re: pkg upgrade?

2012-12-03 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:49:48 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On 03/12/2012 15:34, Walter Hurry wrote:
 $ sudo pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121102.txz gcc-4.6.4.20121102 flat
 size is: 0 B gcc-4.6.4.20121102 package size is: 0 B
 
 Ah.  It turns out that querying any pkgng package directly for its
 installed size always returns 0 at the moment.  You'ld need to use the
 repo catalogue to get some sort of reasonable answer.  I can't remember
 off hand if pkgs are meant to know what their installed size is; will
 look into that tonight after work.
 snip 

Thanks, Matthew.

pkg query against the .txz file in the cache appears to work though, as 
does pkg info against the installed package:
---
$ pwd
/var/cache/pkg
$ sudo pkg query -F gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz %sh
567 MB
$ pkg info -s gcc
gcc-4.6.4.20121123 size is: 567 MB
$
---

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Re: pkg upgrade?

2012-12-03 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:14:08 +, Walter Hurry wrote:


 pkg query against the .txz file in the cache appears to work though

It seems to have got the difference calculation right this time:
---
$ sudo pkg upgrade
Updating repository catalogue
repo.txz100%  260KB 260.5KB/s 260.5KB/s   
00:00
The following packages will be upgraded:

Upgrading tcl-modules: 8.5.12_2 - 8.5.13
Upgrading tcl: 8.5.12_2 - 8.5.13
Upgrading tk: 8.5.12 - 8.5.13

The installation will require 7 kB more space

1 MB to be downloaded

Proceed with upgrading packages [y/N]: y
tcl-modules-8.5.13.txz  100%   45KB  45.3KB/s  45.3KB/s   
00:00
tcl-8.5.13.txz  100%  902KB 901.8KB/s 901.8KB/s   
00:00
tk-8.5.13.txz   100%  904KB 904.4KB/s 904.4KB/s   
00:00
Checking integrity... done
Upgrading tcl-modules from 8.5.12_2 to 8.5.13... done
Upgrading tcl from 8.5.12_2 to 8.5.13... done
Upgrading tk from 8.5.12 to 8.5.13... done
$ cd /var/cache/pkg
$ sudo pkg query -F tk-8.5.12.txz %sb
5052562
$ sudo pkg query -F tk-8.5.13.txz %sb
5058022
$ sudo pkg query -F tcl-modules-8.5.12_2.txz %sb
171187
$ sudo pkg query -F tcl-modules-8.5.13.txz %sb
173149
$ sudo pkg query -F tcl-8.5.12_2.txz %sb
5971408
$ sudo pkg query -F tcl-8.5.13.txz %sb
5971395
$ 
---
I wonder if there is some kind of overflow problem with the calculations 
on larger packages?

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Re: pkg upgrade?

2012-12-03 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:51:59 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 Curious.  I can't reproduce the problem on my dev system:
 
 worm:...cache/pkg/All:#   pkg info -s -F git-1.7.11.5.txz 
git-1.7.11.5
   10 MB
 
 I wonder... I'm using portmaster to build packages on my dev box, and
 poudriere on my work machine.  Could poudriere be at fault?
 

I think there's a problem with 'pkg info' irrespective of how the package 
is built.

$ pkg info -s -F gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz
gcc-4.6.4.20121123 flat size is: 0 B
gcc-4.6.4.20121123 package size is: 0 B
$ pkg query -F gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz %sh
567 MB
$ 

It seems that 'pkg info' is looking at one measure, while 'pkg query' is 
looking at another. Maybe portmaster is populating both correctly, but 
poudriere is only doing one of the two.

I'm using a straightforward 'pkg create' to build my package files, by 
the way. But why should there be two (apparently discrete) measures?

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GNOME (was: Gnome)

2012-12-02 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 13:55:14 -0500, Mike Jeays wrote:

 On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 18:36:23 + ren_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hello, I was wondering if you can use Gnome to run your FreeBSD server,
 instead of using let's say Direct Admin ?
 If so, is there any literature on it ?
 
 You can use both Gnome and KDE, and just about any other desktop
 manager.

True. I'm not sure why anyone competent would want to so, though.

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pkg upgrade?

2012-12-02 Thread Walter Hurry
Copied from terminal and pasted here:
--
$ sudo pkg upgrade
Updating repository catalogue
Repository catalogue is up-to-date, no need to fetch fresh copy
The following packages will be upgraded:

Upgrading gcc: 4.6.4.20121102 - 4.6.4.20121123

The installation will free 1 GB

88 MB to be downloaded

Proceed with upgrading packages [y/N]: y
gcc-4.6.4.20121123.txz  100%   88MB   6.8MB/s   6.0MB/s   
00:13
Checking integrity... done
Upgrading gcc from 4.6.4.20121102 to 4.6.4.20121123... done
$
--
OK, fine. But what's this about 1GB being freed?

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Another question about pkgng

2012-11-24 Thread Walter Hurry
When I issue 'pkg version -R' it does not actually use the remote 
repository for comparison; instead it uses the local cache of the remote 
repository, i.e. it checks local.sqlite against repo.sqlite.

That's fine, but should it not do a 'pkg update' first? 

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Re: Another question about pkgng

2012-11-24 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:54:50 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 On 24/11/2012 20:28, Walter Hurry wrote:
 When I issue 'pkg version -R' it does not actually use the remote
 repository for comparison; instead it uses the local cache of the
 remote repository, i.e. it checks local.sqlite against repo.sqlite.
 
 That's fine, but should it not do a 'pkg update' first?
 
 That would be consistent with the way 'pkg upgrade' and 'pkg install'
 behave, so personally I think that would be a yes.
 
 Can you open an issue on Github so this point does not get forgotten
 please?
 
 https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues
 
Thanks, Matthew. Done - Issue #396

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Re: using new pkgng system on 9.0 system

2012-11-23 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:03:50 +, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 Most people testing pkgng at the moment are building their own package
 sets -- poudriere is a popular choice for doing that -- and setting up
 their own private repositories.

Yes, I too am building my own package set and creating a private 
repository for local distributon. It seems to be working very well indeed.

Poudriere though: I read somewhere that ZFS is a prerequisite. Is that 
so? 

Second question: At the moment I'm using 'pkg create' to generate 
packages from conventionally built ports, 'pkg repo' to create/update the 
tarred repo file, and a tiny Python script for HTTP serving. Am I missing 
out on some functionality?


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Re: Light word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-17 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:18:41 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote:

 Polytropon skrev 2012-11-15 10:12:
 On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:06:56 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote:

 Hello

 I mainly use LibreOffice and it works for me.

 My problem now is that the build time for LibreOffice on a little
 older hardware is very long.

 Why not use the binary install method (pkg_add -r)? The default options
 should work fine.
 
 Maybe I'll try that. I never got into packages, I always ended up
 compiling dependencies anyway so I dropped it ;-)

I'm compiling ports once, on my main box, then using pkgng to build 
binary packages ('pkg create').

These packages are on an NFS share, which the other machines use with 
'pkg add your binary'. As an example, libreoffice-3.5.7.txz installed 
(with 28 not-already-installed dependencies pulled in automatically from 
the same directory) in *56 seconds*. The main box has 3GB RAM, the second 
has 1MB.

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problem with pkgng

2012-11-13 Thread Walter Hurry
I am attempting to migrate a test box to pkgng, and have run into 
difficulty:

When I run the pkg2ng script, it fails to register postgreql-jdbc because 
one if its files, namely /usr/local/share/doc/postgresql/README-client, 
is also installed by postgresql-client-9.2.1.

In this, pkgng is perfectly correct, but how do I work around the issue? 
My assumption is that I will need to use pkg register with a hacked plist 
file from which the offending entry has been removed. Can anyone shed 
light on how to achieve this? I'm afraid I'm rather a novice at present. 


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Re: way way off topic

2012-10-24 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:51:54 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

   lets say that x == 15 and y == 16.  Q:  how much less is x than 
y? it
   is not just 1; there was some other way of finding the answer.

6.25%


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Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only

2012-10-07 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:44:15 +, jb wrote:

 Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes:
 
 
 On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 + (UTC), jb wrote:
  Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes:
  
  
   On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 + (UTC), jb wrote:
Hi,
is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make
options) ?
Or would that require separate source packaging per component ?
   
   I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like
   OpenOffice) is designed as an integrated package containing
   various interconnected parts of office productivity programs.
   So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component.
   ...
  
  It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros,
  prepackaged.
 
 Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come with a
 _separated_ build for all the components that have such a corresponding
 package, or is it simply not containing the binaries for the other
 components?
 ...
 
 For example, in Archlinux these are separate builds/packages:
 
 libreoffice-common
 
 libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress
 libreoffice-writer
 
 libreoffice-sdk libreoffice-sdk-doc
 
 libreoffice-extension-nlpsolver libreoffice-extension-pdfimport
 libreoffice-extension-presentation-minimizer
 libreoffice-extension-presenter-screen libreoffice-gnome
 libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-math libreoffice-postgresql-connector
 libreoffice-scripting-javascript ...
 
 So, there is a lot of functionality thru modularity.
 
 For example, in CentOS (clone of RedHat) I can install
 libreoffice-writer only, which pulls libreoffice-common, and perhaps
 some extension packages (if so configured).

Yes, but libreoffice-common is essentially the whole thing; libreoffice-
base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress and 
libreoffice-writer are (relatively) small front ends.

To all intents and purposes, Polytropon is right.


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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-19 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:26:45 -0600, Warren Block wrote:

 For ports, it's probably worth saving the distfile directory along with
 local diffs.  Move it back into place after the svn checkout of the
 ports tree.

PMFJI. Newbie here: What's wrong with using SVN for src, and portsnap for 
ports?

Thanks.

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-19 Thread Walter Hurry
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:18:02 -0600, Warren Block wrote:

 I also find portsnap slower than either
 csup or svn.

That surprises me. Once the initial download and extract is done, I find 
portsnap fetch update to be miles faster than csup. However, each to 
his own, I suppose.

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Re: What replaces csup?

2012-09-17 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:45:23 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:

 Now that we're switching to svn, is there a utility analogous to csup
 for fetching source?  Is that utility available for 8.3?  (I'm assuming
 subversion will become part of base in 9.x.)

9.1-RC1 here. Subversion is still in ports at the moment.

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Re: Wrong version of sources?

2012-09-02 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 08:51:33 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

 On 09/02/2012 03:21 AM, Walter Hurry wrote:
 My standard-
 supfile (copied from examples with only the default host changed) says
 'tag=RELENG_9'.

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html
 RELENG_9 The line of development for FreeBSD-9.X, also known as FreeBSD
 9-STABLE
 
 You're running 9.1-RC1, which doesn't have the RELENG_9_1 tag available
 yet, as this is a release candidate. Thus the trouble when compiling
 VBox from sources.
 
 Have you rebuilt your kernel and the world once you'd pulled in the
 sources for RELENG_9?
 
 Anyway, that's my take on it.

Thanks for the reply. No, I haven't rebuilt kernel and world, nor do I 
intend to for the moment. I'm happy to stick with generic.

I'm still slightly confused by this tag stuff though; sorry (despite 
perusal of the handbook). Are you saying that until RELENG_9_1 is made 
available I won't be able to compile kernel modules? Or that I should 
have a different tag in my standard-supfile?


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Wrong version of sources?

2012-09-01 Thread Walter Hurry
I am having trouble with virtualbox-ose-additions. This is 9.1-RC1 on 
amd64 in a VirtualBox VM.

It builds from the port (DISTVERSION= 4.1.20), but on reboot, the kernel 
module refuses to load,, complaining of a version mismatch with the 
kernel.

When I install the binary version (4.1.18) using 'pkg_add -r' it is fine.

This induces me to suspect that I have the wrong version of the kernel 
sources installed. I installed the source tree with csup. My standard-
supfile (copied from examples with only the default host changed) says 
'tag=RELENG_9'.

I must be doing something wrong, but what? Please forgive me if this is a 
silly question; I am fairly new to FreeBSD, being a refugee from Linux.


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Re: freebsd-update

2012-08-26 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 14:24:34 -0400, doug wrote:

 In doing an update from 8.3 -- 9.0 I messed up the merge on /etc/ttys.
 This has interesting consequences BTW. Are there any docs on how to do
 this?

Here's mine. Note: I changed ttyv8 from off to on as I am using xdm.

console noneunknown off secure
#
ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
# Virtual terminals
ttyv1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv5   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv6   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv7   /usr/libexec/getty Pc xterm   on  secure
ttyv8   /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm   on  secure
# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyu0   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyu1   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyu2   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
ttyu3   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   dialup  off secure
# Dumb console
dcons   /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   vt100   off secure
(END)


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Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote:

 Colleagues,
 
 Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which
 work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried
 work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g.
 
 games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa
 
 games/doom: http://pastebin.com/XdrCwzvn
 
 games/quake2lnx even pretends to do something: it opens a tiny X11
 window with some flickering rubbish and plays some farting sounds to the
 audio system.
 
 Is there any working 3D shooter in the ports collection my 8 year old
 son could enjoy?

prboom works flawlessly on my FreeBSD9 laptop.


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Re: user specific xorg.conf?

2012-08-19 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:38:30 +0300, Jeff Tipton wrote:

 On 08/19/2012 20:51, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:44:15 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 In attempting to zero in on my system crash problem,
 I need to customize xorg.conf.
 As I read the documentation,
 there is no way for an ordinary user to provide an xorg.conf;
 Xorg looks for files in the normal server search path,
 which does not include any user directories --
 unless the user is root.
 What if you do (as a user) the startx command and try to hand the
 -configfile  to the program, like this:

  % Xorg -file /home/user/test/xorg.conf

 I haven't tried that myself, but according to man Xorg this option
 does exist. However, I'm not sure if xinit or startx honors this option
 if you use them (to make use of ~/.xinitrc).



 Am I missing something?
 Is this because of the security vulnerabilities in X?
 A valid consideration. With a malfunctioning X server, you can easily
 crash a system. That's why a user should not be able to have access to
 such files.


 Gary, why do you need user-specific xorg.conf?

Presumably because he doesn't have root privileges. Duh.


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Re: freebsd-update and csup - I'm going around in circles.

2012-08-17 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:48:18 +0200, Polytropon wrote:

 snip problem and comprehensive answer 

That's really helpful. Very many thanks, Polytropon.


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freebsd-update and csup - I'm going around in circles.

2012-08-16 Thread Walter Hurry
Please forgive me if this is a daft question; I am quite new to FreeBSD.

I have read the handbook assiduously and am attempting to follow it. This 
is 9.0-RELEASE-p3, by the way.

Every time I run freebsd-update fetch it says it wants to update the 
following 5 source files as part of updating to 9.0-RELEASE-p4:

/usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c
/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
/usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c
/usr/src/sys/netinet6/in6.c
/usr/src/sys/netinet6/ip6_input.c

So I run freebsd-update install and they are updated happily.

But when I run csup with my standard-supfile, it puts the same 5 files 
back to where they were.

What am I missing, or doing wrong?

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LibreOffice with Java?

2012-07-16 Thread Walter Hurry
I note that in the Makefile for libreoffice
(/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/Makefile) it says:

LibreOffice works only with Java 6

But I have Java 7. Is this a problem?

$ java -version
openjdk version 1.7.0_04
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b22)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode)
$

LibreOffice seems to install (from the port) and run OK.
This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64.

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NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Walter Hurry
I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (64 bit), with a VirtualBox VM also 
running the same.

On the host I am running NFS server:

$ showmount -e
Exports list on localhost:
/usr/home  Everyone

But when I try to mount is on the client (the VM guest) I get this:

# mount xx:/usr/home /mnt
[tcp] xx:/usr/home: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = 
Client credential too weak
#

On the server, in /var/log/messages I see this:

mountd[29140]: mount request from nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn from unprivileged port

So I infer that the 'unprivileged port' bit is the problem.

Further information - on the client:

$ rpcinfo xx
   program version netid addressserviceowner
104tcp   0.0.0.0.0.111  rpcbindsuperuser
103tcp   0.0.0.0.0.111  rpcbindsuperuser
102tcp   0.0.0.0.0.111  rpcbindsuperuser
104udp   0.0.0.0.0.111  rpcbindsuperuser
103udp   0.0.0.0.0.111  rpcbindsuperuser
102udp   0.0.0.0.0.111  rpcbindsuperuser
104tcp6  ::.0.111   rpcbindsuperuser
103tcp6  ::.0.111   rpcbindsuperuser
104udp6  ::.0.111   rpcbindsuperuser
103udp6  ::.0.111   rpcbindsuperuser
104local /var/run/rpcbind.sock  rpcbindsuperuser
103local /var/run/rpcbind.sock  rpcbindsuperuser
102local /var/run/rpcbind.sock  rpcbindsuperuser
132udp   0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser
133udp   0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser
132udp6  ::.8.1 nfssuperuser
133udp6  ::.8.1 nfssuperuser
132tcp   0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser
133tcp   0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser
132tcp6  ::.8.1 nfssuperuser
133tcp6  ::.8.1 nfssuperuser
151udp6  ::.2.94mountd superuser
153udp6  ::.2.94mountd superuser
151tcp6  ::.2.94mountd superuser
153tcp6  ::.2.94mountd superuser
151udp   0.0.0.0.2.94   mountd superuser
153udp   0.0.0.0.2.94   mountd superuser
151tcp   0.0.0.0.2.94   mountd superuser
153tcp   0.0.0.0.2.94   mountd superuser
$ 

What am I doing wrong? I am new to NFS.


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Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:42:02 -0400, kpneal wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 04:03:27PM +, Walter Hurry wrote:
 I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (64 bit), with a VirtualBox VM also
 running the same.
 
 On the host I am running NFS server:
 
 $ showmount -e Exports list on localhost:
 /usr/home  Everyone
 
 But when I try to mount is on the client (the VM guest) I get this:
 
 # mount xx:/usr/home /mnt [tcp] xx:/usr/home: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC:
 Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak #
 
 On the server, in /var/log/messages I see this:
 
 mountd[29140]: mount request from nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn from unprivileged
 port
 
 So I infer that the 'unprivileged port' bit is the problem.
 
 That's odd. At 8.2 the documentation (man page) on mount_nfs says that
 reserved ports are the default. I'd be surprised if 9.0 was different.
 *shrug*
 
 Try running mountd with the -n option. If I understand the man page
 then it allows mountd to accept mounts from port numbers less than 1024.
 Note that the mountd protocol is distinct from the NFS protocol and so
 rpcinfo can't really tell you anything about mountd.

Thanks. Yes, the mount worked fine on the client when the server mountd 
was started with the -n option. That leads me to two more questions:

Why would mount_nfs be using an unprivileged port by default? As far as I 
can see from man mount_nfs the only relevant option would be (section 
of manpage reformatted for convenience):

port=⟨port_number⟩
Use specified port number for NFS requests. The default is to query the 
portmapper for the NFS port.

I'm afraid that due to my lack of knowledge in this area, that doesn't 
mean a lot to me.

Are there security implications in using an unprivileged port?


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Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:55:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote:

 Are you root when mounting on the client?
  From looking at your prompt # I think you are, but I ask just to make
  sure.
 You can also take a look at
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-
nfs.html
 in the handbook

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I'm running as root on the client when I try 
the mount.

It was the handbook I was following in my attempt to set up NFS.


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Re: Messages not reaching the lists

2012-06-29 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:24:56 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:

 On 6/29/12 6:40 AM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
 Lately I've been noticing that almost without fail, any messages I send
 to the FreeBSD mailing lists never actually appear on the list.
 
 Just wondering if maybe my ISP (cox.net) has been flagged as a known
 spam source, or what?
 
 This is very strange!  I'm still subscribed to all of the same lists
 I've been on for quite some time, and am receiving the lists' mail just
 fine.  It's just my own messages that never show up here.
 
 We'll see if this one shows up.  :-)
 
 
 
 I've been experiencing the same issue for a long time.
 
 My messages are sent, people seem to actually receive them, but I don't,
 although my subscription options state that I should receive copies of
 my own messages.

I'm reading both your messages on gmane vi a newsreader (Pan) - my 
preferred method. No issues whatever.

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Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests

2012-06-29 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:40:37 +0200, Julien Cigar wrote:

 On 06/29/2012 11:00, Fred Morcos wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar
 woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  wrote:
 Most probably all filesystems were used with defaults.

 MAYBE softupdates, but not even sure for this. Compare this to linux
 which is async-like. Comparing with UFS+async would be more fair.

 Still - FreeBSD default MAXPHYS in param.h is far too low. i change it
 to 2048*1024 (default is 128*1024) and improvement on handling large
 files is huge. I run that setting everywhere. No problems.

 I already talked about it on forum but was ignored.

 As for scientific processing it should not depend much from OS at all,
 but for sure it depends on crappy compiler that Juniper wanted...



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 I would not worry too much about what this guy says. Judging from his
 interpretations of the plots, he doesn't seem to know much about the
 benchmarks he is running and why they behave that way on the different
 systems. I think he just runs and publishes everything that says
 benchmark on it, without truly understanding what's going on or even
 going through the effort of providing fair comparisons.

 That said, I think that the Linux kernel performs better simply due to
 wider adoption (larger developer base, wider set of use-cases, etc)
 and thus a higher chance of getting performance improvements.
 
 Note that stability matters too.
 I remembered a bench on PostgreSQL where Linux was faster, but at some
 point the machine had to be rebooted because it became unresponsive.
 
Unscientific, anecdotal and entirely subjective, but here's my 2c.

I run both FreeBSD and Linux on the same machine in a multi-boot 
configuration. Each has its default disk configuration (UFS + SJ vs. Ext4 
with journalling).

Linux is noticeably faster, but the performance of both is satisfactory, 
and I prefer FreeBSD.

To echo Julien, benchmarks aren't everything.


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Xorg listening on the WAN?

2012-06-25 Thread Walter Hurry
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE

I think Xorg is listening on external addresses:

$ sockstat -46 |grep Xorg
root Xorg   1573  1  tcp6   *:6000*:*
root Xorg   1573  3  tcp4   *:6000*:*
$ netstat -a|grep x11
tcp4   0  0 *.x11  *.*LISTEN
tcp6   0  0 *.x11  *.*LISTEN

I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening 
for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 
address.

I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which 
will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be 
on the http port (80) anyway.

But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening 
externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that 
please?

In case it makes a difference, I am using XDM with standard LXDE. I do 
not use startx to initiate my sessions.

Thanks.


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Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?

2012-06-25 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:

 $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten

Thanks for the pointer.

I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had 
already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer 
is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where?

As far as I can see, XDM invokes /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession, which 
seems to do little more than call $HOME/.xsession. This last runs /usr/
local/bin/startlxde,  which in turn invokes /usr/local/bin/lxsession (a 
binary).

I have looked at 'man lxsession' and found it of little help. So I'm 
rather lost. Can you amplify a little?


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Re: Xorg listening on the WAN?

2012-06-25 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:

 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz
 escribió:
 
 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +, Walter Hurry
 escribió:
 
  On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
   $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten
  
  Thanks for the pointer.
  
  I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I
  had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that
  the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where?
 
 $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro
 
 sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is:
 
 $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc
 
Thanks again for your assistance. I didn't have a $HOME/.xserverrc, so I 
created one with your contents (permissions 744).

It doesn't seem to have made any difference at all, though. After 
restart, I am still getting the same output from netstat and sockstat.

So I'm still in the dark.


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SOLVED: Xorg listening on the WAN? (was Xorg listening on the WAN?)

2012-06-25 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:15 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz
 escribió:
 
 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +, Walter Hurry
 escribió:
 
  On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
   $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten
  
  Thanks for the pointer.
  
  I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I
  had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that
  the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where?
 
 $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro
 
 sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is:
 
 $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc
 
 Thanks again for your assistance. I didn't have a $HOME/.xserverrc, so I
 created one with your contents (permissions 744).
 
 It doesn't seem to have made any difference at all, though. After
 restart, I am still getting the same output from netstat and sockstat.
 
 So I'm still in the dark.

Of course! Looking back at the output from sockstat in my original post, 
X is running under root, so no amount of tinkering with files in $HOME is 
going to change anything.

So I looked into XDM's configuration files in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm, and 
found what change did the trick:

$ cat /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
#
# Xservers file, workstation prototype
#
# This file should contain an entry to start the server on the
# local display; if you have more than one display (not screen),
# you can add entries to the list (one per line).  If you also
# have some X terminals connected which do not support XDMCP,
# you can add them here as well.  Each X terminal line should
# look like:
#   XTerminalName:0 foreign
#
:0 local /usr/local/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0

If there's batter way of doing this, please would someone let me know.


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Re: Understanding XDM

2012-06-24 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:19:54 +0200, Christian Graulund wrote:

 Hello Guys,
 
 I just install FreeBSD 9, and after compiling Xorg, I started trying to
 figure out how to install a Window Manager.
 When Following the handbook, I suggest installing XDM. I want to use
 something like Openbox, as my window manager, and I can't figure out if
 Openbox is a replacement for XDM, or something on top of XDM. I now
 there are alternative to XDM directly like LightDM ect., but the same
 questions applies to them.
 
 So what is the function of XDM (or alternatives), and is it necessary to
 have to run a WM, or DE for that sake?


XDM is not a window manager - it is a display manager. In short it 
provides a GUI login and then starts your window manager of choice.

So if you want a GUI login and a GUI DE, you need both a DM and an WM.

I use XDM + Openbox, and it works very well indeed for me. Vastly 
preferable to some heavyweight like GDM, IMHO.

The handbook provides excellent guidance on installing and configuring 
XDM.

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Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Walter Hurry
A little digging around has revealed that there are two 'mailq' 
executables on my system: /usr/local/bin/mailq and /usr/bin/mailq.

The first is part of the mail/postfix-current port which I have installed 
and use, and the second is presumably part of Sendmail, which I have not 
installed and do not use.

It seems that Sendmail is embedded somehow in the base system. What is 
the 'approved' way to get rid of /usr/bin/mailq? Or better, remove 
Sendmail?

Sorry if this is a newbie question; I am as yet relatively unfamiliar 
with FreeBSD, being a refugee from GNU/Linux.

This is FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, by the way.

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Re: Sendmail and Postfix

2012-06-22 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:41:46 -0500, Mark Felder wrote:

 When you installed Postfix did you allow it to update the entries in
 /etc/mail/mailer.conf ? If so, I wouldn't worry about the mailq binary
 that came with the system; it's ignored.

Thanks! (Thanks too to the other responders.)

Looks like that's the step I missed. Fixed now.

Cheers.

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Re: New to FreeBSD - Some questions

2012-06-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:32:24 +0200, Fred Morcos wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am new to FreeBSD, coming from a GNU/Linux background (most
 comfortable with Archlinux). I compiled a series of questions I would
 like to ask in different areas and categories. Should I send them all in
 a single email message or should I split them by subject/topic into
 different emails?
 
 The advantage of the former is that I will be able to easily show
 relations between the different topics and questions (put them into
 context) as well as articulate the setup I would like to reach. The
 advantage of the latter is that it is cleaner and simpler to answer one
 question by one.
 
 Also, I have done a bit of poking around to answer each of my own
 questions, obviously with no luck, so I do not mind RTFM-ing - I would
 actually prefer it, please feel free to link me to an article,
 tutorial, man page or handbook that already answers one or more
 question(s).

I'm quite new to FreeBSD too (RHEL/Fedora background), and am most 
impressed with it so far.

The first thing to mention is that this is an extremely helpful list (I 
won't call it a newsgroup because it isn't one, though I read it via 
gmane), and as such is most useful. Ask away!

Secondly (and probably stating the obvious), the handbook

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

is the place I always look first.

Good luck! 

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No sound in Flash

2012-06-20 Thread Walter Hurry
FreeBSD 9 (x86_64).

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I have googled assiduously and found nothing 
useful.

I have installed Flash, following the instructions in the handbook.
It works well, and the video element seems fine and smooth. But on (for 
example) YouTube, there is no audio at all.

This is despite the fact that .mp3s, .mp4s, .avis, .movs  etc. all play 
perfectly (in mplayer).

There is probably a simple solution, but I cannot find it.

Can anyone help?

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Re: No sound in Flash

2012-06-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:31:02 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

 FreeBSD 9 (x86_64).

 Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I have googled assiduously and found
 nothing useful.

 I have installed Flash, following the instructions in the handbook.
 Flash is adobe product and they don't provide binaries for FreeBSD, at
 least they didn't.
 
 if you really need flash, you may install gnash from ports. not fully
 capable but usually works, and doesn't need linux emulator and closed
 source code.
 

Thanks for the advice about gnash! I've installed it, and removed 
nspluginwrapper and all the linux stuff.

It seems to work perfectly for my purposes.

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-13 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote:

 The syntax of his crontab file is correct.  Vixie cron does care about
 leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros.  Earlier versions
 of cron are much pickier about the crontab file.   The cron logs show
 that it is starting his jobs at the correct times.
 
 It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts.  A very
 common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not
 inherit your environment.   Do the scripts run from the command line? 
 If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment
 that the scripts need.

I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except 
that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs.

I had:
/home/walterh/exports.sh
/home/walterh/backup_etc.sh
/home/walterh/systemcheck.sh
/home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

which should of course have been:
/home/walterh/bin/exports.sh
/home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh
/home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh
/home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh

What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry 
for wasting your time. Sorry!

WH

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Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to 
FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux).

FreeBSD9 on x86_64.

Cron is running:

$ ps -ax|grep cron

 1513  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s

 2283   0  S+ 0:00.00 grep cron

$

I have a syntactically valid crontab:

$ crontab -l
#min hr dom month dow command

SHELL=/bin/bash

PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/
daddy/bin

HOME=/home/walterh

 00  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/exports.sh

 05  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh

 10  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh

 15  02 *   * *   /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh

$ 

So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook 
but see nothing.

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote:

 Have you installed bash?  It's not in the system base.
 
 What's in your shell scripts?

Thanks for the quick response.

$ pkg_info|grep bash

bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell

$ which bash

/bin/bash

$ 

$ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh

#!/bin/bash

LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log

logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started

echo Exports started at `date`  $LOG

rm $HOME/postgresql/*

psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql

cd $HOME/postgresql

tar cfz postgresql.tgz *

rm *csv

echo Exports finished at `date`  $LOG

logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished

/home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END)

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:21:12 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:

 You really have bash in /bin ?  Are your scripts executable?  What does
 /var/log/cron say?

$ file /bin/bash

/bin/bash: symbolic link to `/usr/local/bin/bash'

$ sudo tail -50 /var/log/cron (result snipped at 02:22:00 for brevity)

Jun 12 01:55:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1780]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1823]: (root) CMD (newsyslog)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1825]: (operator) CMD (/usr/
libexec/save-entropy)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1824]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1836]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/exports.sh)

Jun 12 02:01:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1849]: (root) CMD (adjkerntz -a)

Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1874]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1875]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/backup_etc.sh)

Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1912]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1913]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/systemcheck.sh)

Jun 12 02:11:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1924]: (operator) CMD (/usr/
libexec/save-entropy)

Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1981]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1982]: (walterh) CMD (/home/
walterh/backup_bsd.sh)

Jun 12 02:20:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2013]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/
atrun)

Jun 12 02:22:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2025]: (operator) CMD (/usr/
libexec/save-entropy)

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Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?

2012-06-11 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote:

 cat /etc/shells

$ cat /etc/shells
# $FreeBSD: release/9.0.0/etc/shells 59717 2000-04-27 21:58:46Z ache $
#
# List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
# Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
# one of these shells.
/bin/sh
/bin/csh
/bin/tcsh
/usr/local/bin/bash
/usr/local/bin/rbash
$

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Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice

2012-06-10 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:46:49 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

 On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:12:25 +0100, Dave Morgan wrote:
 
 On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote:
 FreeBSD 9 on x86_64.

 I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4
 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in
 the following modules:

 vcl framework sfx2 tail_build

 Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean
 and a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make.

 This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it
 completed successfully.

 When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the
 portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it
 will just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so
 forth.

 Q1) Is this a sensible approach?

 Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on?

 There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs
 and boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them.
 
 I did this and it worked for me.
 
 Thanks. I'll try that and report back.

Yes, that did the trick. It zoomed through!
Very many thanks. I'll need to keep an eye on the forum, methinks.

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Problems with portupgrade libreoffice

2012-06-09 Thread Walter Hurry
FreeBSD 9 on x86_64.

I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4 to 
3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in the 
following modules:

vcl
framework
sfx2
tail_build

Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and a 
gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make.

This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it 
completed successfully.

When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the 
portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will 
just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so forth.

Q1) Is this a sensible approach?

Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on?

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Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work)

2012-06-09 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 05:58:25 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:

 2012-06-09 00:10, Walter Hurry skrev:
 On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:58:49 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:

 2012-06-08 17:51, Walter Hurry skrev:
 On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +, Walter Hurry wrote:
 Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man
 rc.conf. moused_port.


 You also have moused_flags=Put your flags here

 That does not help, not me anyway.

 Indeed you do. But I didn't need moused_flags (nor moused_type) - just
 moused_port. I was then able to restore /etc/rc.d/moused to its
 pristine state.
 
 That would be moused_flags=-p /dev/sysmouse

Ah, good point. As ever, there's always more than one way to skin a 
cat. :-)

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Re: Problems with portupgrade libreoffice

2012-06-09 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:12:25 +0100, Dave Morgan wrote:

 On 09/06/12 at 04:41P, Walter Hurry wrote:
 FreeBSD 9 on x86_64.

 I am in the process of doing a portupgrade on libreoffice (from 3.4.4
 to 3.5.2.5). During the build it has (so far) errored out 4 times, in
 the following modules:

 vcl framework sfx2 tail_build

 Each time, it told me to go into the subdirectory, do a gmake clean and
 a gmake -r there, then return to the top level and rerun make.

 This I duly did, but to my surprise, each time I ran the gmake -r, it
 completed successfully.

 When the top-level make finally succeeds, I intend simply to rerun the
 portupgrade, on the theory that seeing everything already made, it will
 just do the uninstall/reinstall, sort out the dependencies and so
 forth.

 Q1) Is this a sensible approach?

 Q2) Has anyone else seen this? What is going on?

 There is a thread in the forums which recommends removing boost-libs and
 boost-jam, building libreoffice then reinstalling them.
 
 I did this and it worked for me.

Thanks. I'll try that and report back.

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FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work)

2012-06-08 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:59:01 -0400, Jerry wrote:

 Ubuntu,
 Debian, and Fedora, and projects such as KDE, GNOME and X.org are in the
 process of deprecating HAL as it has become a large monolithic
 unmaintainable mess.

Well, I finally got it working. I'm far from an expert in this area, but 
what I think was happening was that the touchpad was grabbing /dev/psm0, 
and then X.org tried to allocate the same port for the USB mouse, which 
of course failed (even though I had specified a Device of /dev/ums0, and 
set AutoAddDevices to Off so as to take hald out of the picture).

The solution for me was to run moused *on port /dev/ums0* and then 
specify the device as /dev/sysmouse in xorg.conf.

However, that leads me to another question: my amateurish way to get 
moused to run on /dev/ums0 was to hack /etc/rc.d/moused and hard code it. 
I don't think that's very good, and I suspect that the right way to do 
it was to set some variable in /etc/rc.conf.

Can anyone guide me on how that should be done, or point me to a fine 
manual?

Thamks to all for the responses.  

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Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work)

2012-06-08 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

 On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:59:01 -0400, Jerry wrote:
 
 Ubuntu,
 Debian, and Fedora, and projects such as KDE, GNOME and X.org are in
 the process of deprecating HAL as it has become a large monolithic
 unmaintainable mess.
 
 Well, I finally got it working. I'm far from an expert in this area, but
 what I think was happening was that the touchpad was grabbing /dev/psm0,
 and then X.org tried to allocate the same port for the USB mouse, which
 of course failed (even though I had specified a Device of /dev/ums0, and
 set AutoAddDevices to Off so as to take hald out of the picture).
 
 The solution for me was to run moused *on port /dev/ums0* and then
 specify the device as /dev/sysmouse in xorg.conf.
 
 However, that leads me to another question: my amateurish way to get
 moused to run on /dev/ums0 was to hack /etc/rc.d/moused and hard code
 it.
 I don't think that's very good, and I suspect that the right way to do
 it was to set some variable in /etc/rc.conf.
 
 Can anyone guide me on how that should be done, or point me to a fine
 manual?
 
 Thamks to all for the responses.
 
Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man 
rc.conf. moused_port.

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Re: FreeBSD: SOLVED: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (was : FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work)

2012-06-08 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:58:49 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:

 2012-06-08 17:51, Walter Hurry skrev:
 On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 15:39:22 +, Walter Hurry wrote:
 Never mind: Stupid moi. The answer was staring me in the face in man
 rc.conf. moused_port.


 You also have moused_flags=Put your flags here
 
 That does not help, not me anyway.

Indeed you do. But I didn't need moused_flags (nor moused_type) - just 
moused_port. I was then able to restore /etc/rc.d/moused to its pristine 
state.

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FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work

2012-06-05 Thread Walter Hurry
Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to 
FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD 
is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to 
work.

I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail.

This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.

I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.

Here is my xorg.conf in its entirety:

##
Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
Option Clone off
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
Option AutoAddDevices On
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
EndSection

Section Module
Load   ddc
Load   dbe
Load   extmod
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver keyboard
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout gb
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName Monitor Vendor
ModelName  Monitor Model
EndSection


Section ServerLayout
Identifier XFree86 Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
Option Clone off
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
Option AutoAddDevices On
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
EndSection

Section Module
Load   ddc
Load   dbe
Load   extmod
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver keyboard
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout gb
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName Monitor Vendor
ModelName  Monitor Model
EndSection


Section Device
Identifier Card0
Screen  0
Driver radeonhd
VendorName Radeon Video Driver
Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true
Option AccelMethod EXA
Option DRI true
BusID  PCI:1:5:0
EndSection


Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth   24
SubSection Display
Depth  24 
Modes  1366x768
EndSubSection
EndSection
##

and here are the relevant Xorg.0.log messages:

##
(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
(EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for PS/2 Mouse
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
((WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 
'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
##

Can anyone assist with this?

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Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work

2012-06-05 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:14:35 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

 Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to
 FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in
 FreeBSD is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB)
 mouse to work.
 
 Can anyone assist with this?
 

One bit of information which might be relevant:

This is a laptop with a built-in touchpad. The touchpad works, even 
though I have made no configuration changes for it. Unfortunately, as I 
said, the mouse doesn't.

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Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work

2012-06-05 Thread Walter Hurry
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:
 Option AutoAddDevices On
 
 Set this to off.
 
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to Off, but there is 
no apparent difference; only a new set of messages in Xorg.0.log:

(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(WW) Mouse0: No Device specified, looking for one...

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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-27 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:07:59 -0400, Rod Person wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:54:29 + (UTC)
 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How many of the screenlets actually work? When I was working on
  this I found that a number of them where too linux specific to
  work. I have a screenshot of the sticky note and weather working
  but that's about all I can recall working.
 
  I only wanted three: Clock, ClearCalendar and ClearWeather. They
  work perfectly. I haven't tried any of the others.
  
  Consider making a port.  Clearly there is some demand.
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/
 
 For the Python wnck module, or for screenlets? I'm afraid that
 technically I am well short of the ability to do either. I am more than
 willing to help anyone who elects to so, though.

 Incidentally (and this is addressed to Rod mainly), the ClearWeather
 module was broken. I had to hack it a bit to get it to work properly.
 It got confused over proxies, but since I am not unfamiliar with
 Python, that presented no difficulty.
 
 
 Creating a port itself is rather simple...it the porting of the code
 from Linux to FreeBSD that is the hard part. I have one official port
 that I made as a way to brush off my C skills, it works but it was hell
 getting some of the Linux specific translated but thanks to one of the
 committers it got cleaned up...
 
 But anyway, the issues with screenlets is getting any of the screenlets
 that interface with the system to work such as Mount, MyIP, Netmonitor
 or the CPU Meter, when I tried this with FreeBSD 7.2 none of them worked
 because of all the Linux device names.
 
 If you know python this should not be too hard just time consuming. The
 only reason I stopped working on this was I moved from using OpenBox to
 using the i3 window manager.
 
 I can check around and see if I still have any thing I worked on laying
 around but I'm not sure about that...I changed hard disks since then.
 
 I do love python so I would not be adversed to working on some of the
 individual screenlet modules.

Thanks for the encouragement, but my skills really are not up to that.
Cheers, anyway.

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Unresolvable links

2012-04-27 Thread Walter Hurry
Arising from a very useful link posted by Warren Block in another thread:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=163415postcount=17 ,

I have been running libchk. It now gives the following (relevant) output:

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/libreoffice/program/
configmgr.uno.so

libxmlreader.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/sdk/lib/libxul.so

libmozsqlite3.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/components/
libmozgnome.so

libmozalloc.so

libxpcom.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/components/
libdbusservice.so

libmozalloc.so

libxpcom.so

Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/local/lib/firefox/components/
libbrowsercomps.so

libmozalloc.so

libxul.so

libxpcom.so

All these shared object files are present in one lib or another, so my 
suspicion is that somehow the 'parent' shared objects are looking for 
them in the wrong place.

Any ideas on fixing this please?

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Python module wnck?

2012-04-26 Thread Walter Hurry
I'm trying to get screenlets up and running on 9.0, but I'm getting the 
following Python error:

ImportError: No module named wnck

I believe that this should be supplied by a a package or port named 
something like py27-wnck, but am unable to trace any such.

Can anyone point me in the right direction please?


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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-26 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:43:23 -0400, Rod Person wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:37:44 + (UTC)
 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm trying to get screenlets up and running on 9.0, but I'm getting the
 following Python error:
 
 ImportError: No module named wnck
 
 I believe that this should be supplied by a a package or port named
 something like py27-wnck, but am unable to trace any such.
 
 Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
 
 
 It's been a year or two since I tried to get screenlets running, but as
 I recall you need to get python wnck module yourself. libwnck is in the
 ports which is needed for the python module.

Thanks. libwnck is already installed, so I downloaded gnome-python-
desktop-2.32.0.tar.bz2 from ftp.gnome.org, which apparently contains the 
Python wnck module.

I was intending to make the whole thing, but then install only the bit I 
need. Unfortunately when it came to compile wnck, the following error was 
displayed:

libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-aux.la' is not a valid libtool 
archive

Indeed it isn't. There is no such file, even though libxcb is installed.

Any thoughts? 

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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-26 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:29:44 -0600, Warren Block wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Walter Hurry wrote:
 
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:43:23 -0400, Rod Person wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:37:44 + (UTC)
 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm trying to get screenlets up and running on 9.0, but I'm getting
 the following Python error:

 ImportError: No module named wnck

 I believe that this should be supplied by a a package or port named
 something like py27-wnck, but am unable to trace any such.

 Can anyone point me in the right direction please?


 It's been a year or two since I tried to get screenlets running, but
 as I recall you need to get python wnck module yourself. libwnck is in
 the ports which is needed for the python module.

 Thanks. libwnck is already installed, so I downloaded gnome-python-
 desktop-2.32.0.tar.bz2 from ftp.gnome.org, which apparently contains
 the Python wnck module.

 I was intending to make the whole thing, but then install only the bit
 I need. Unfortunately when it came to compile wnck, the following error
 was displayed:

 libtool: link: `/usr/local/lib/libxcb-aux.la' is not a valid libtool
 archive

 Indeed it isn't. There is no such file, even though libxcb is
 installed.
 
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=163415postcount=17


Thanks for that link! And thanks to Rod and Poly too.
I now have screenlets up and running perfectly. I have kept notes in case 
any other soul needs assistance.

What a suerb list!. As I gain experience with FreeBSD I hope I shall be 
able to contribute something in return.

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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-26 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:41:35 -0400, Rod Person wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:14:53 + (UTC)
 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for that link! And thanks to Rod and Poly too.
 I now have screenlets up and running perfectly. I have kept notes in
 case any other soul needs assistance.
 
 What a suerb list!. As I gain experience with FreeBSD I hope I shall be
 able to contribute something in return.
 
 How many of the screenlets actually work? When I was working on this I
 found that a number of them where too linux specific to work. I have a
 screenshot of the sticky note and weather working but that's about all I
 can recall working.

I only wanted three: Clock, ClearCalendar and ClearWeather. They work 
perfectly. I haven't tried any of the others.

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Re: Python module wnck?

2012-04-26 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:51:49 -0600, Warren Block wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Walter Hurry wrote:
 
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:41:35 -0400, Rod Person wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:14:53 + (UTC)
 Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for that link! And thanks to Rod and Poly too.
 I now have screenlets up and running perfectly. I have kept notes in
 case any other soul needs assistance.

 What a suerb list!. As I gain experience with FreeBSD I hope I shall
 be able to contribute something in return.

 How many of the screenlets actually work? When I was working on this I
 found that a number of them where too linux specific to work. I have a
 screenshot of the sticky note and weather working but that's about all
 I can recall working.

 I only wanted three: Clock, ClearCalendar and ClearWeather. They work
 perfectly. I haven't tried any of the others.
 
 Consider making a port.  Clearly there is some demand.
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/

For the Python wnck module, or for screenlets? I'm afraid that 
technically I am well short of the ability to do either. I am more than 
willing to help anyone who elects to so, though.

Incidentally (and this is addressed to Rod mainly), the ClearWeather 
module was broken. I had to hack it a bit to get it to work properly. It 
got confused over proxies, but since I am not unfamiliar with Python, 
that presented no difficulty.

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