Re: recommended book/guide for /bin/sh shell programming

2003-08-08 Thread burningclown

may have already been mentioned,

Bruce Blinn, Portable Shell Programming: An Extensive Collection of 
Bourne Shell Examples

good stuff

-glenn becker

On 6 Aug 2003, Marvin J. Kosmal wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 14:21, Dave [Hawk-Systems] wrote:
  For multiple reasons I am moving away from doing everything in perl/php for
  server based tasks. Made sense at the time to do everything in the language we
  used for the web as well, but am finding I do less web work and more server
  admin work as time progreses, and there are some significant hits to loading
  perl or php each time I want to move files and do other such tasks. As such I am
  finding more and more tasks being performed in plain ol shell scripting, thousgh
  this is still a hunt and peck type of operation fr the appropriate commands
  etc...
  
  As such, am looking for recommendations for a good guide/book or two for shell
  programming, but most of the books seem to be specific to bash, tcsh, ksh,
  etc... Given that there is a seperate bash shell port available, I would assume
  that /bin/sh != bash.  I would prefer to use plain ol /bin/sh since most of the
  core scripts scattered through the stable installs we have use it.
  
  Sugestions? Amazon links?
  
  Thanks
  
  Dave
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Linux and Unix Shell Programming by David Tansley
 
 ISBN  0-201-67472-6
 
 Published by Addison-Wesley
 
 Great book
 
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 
  
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RE: free?

2003-06-16 Thread burningclown

try the not-quite-linux-specific 

www.linuxcd.org

they seem anyway to be selling FreeBSD 5.0 for about $6 US. i can't vouch for 
them myself, but my dad bought a Knoppix CD from them ...

HTH,

glenn becker


On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, 
Valerie Andrewlevich 
wrote:

 Don't have the juice.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:08 PM
 To: Valerie Andrewlevich
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: free?
 
 
  I am down with a few dollars.  However, after perusing a few of the 
  sites, the bare minimum cheapest going rate seems to be around $30. 
  Anyone know of any cheaper freebsd CDs out there?  Student rate 
  perhaps?
 
 Why can't you just download it?
 
 Ken
 
 
 
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Re: PDL 2.3.4 marked as broken but builds without problem

2003-03-16 Thread burningclown

 I went to build p5-Gimp on my system and it pulled in PDL as a
 dependency. It failed, saying that the port was broken and didn't
 compile. Curious, I downloaded the distfile from ftp2.freebsd.org and
 extracted it to my ~ and built it on my own, without any patches (or
 errors). I'm not exactly sure of any relevant information which enabled
 my build to succeed, but I'll provide anything that I can.
 

Christopher -

Anything you cd provide would be great - I tried to build PDL via the port today 
and it plotzed almost immediately. Was going to try to build it via CPAN but 
haven't gotten around to that yet :)

Thanks,

Glenn Becker
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Re: CPAN hosed / slice? FIXED, sorry

2003-02-06 Thread burningclown

 I know now that I don't necessarily have to install .cpan on /root ...
 can I safely just rip out the subdirectories there?

Apparently, yes. Apologies for my panic  the wasted bandwidth. :(

Glenn

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Re: Unfortunate...

2003-01-22 Thread burningclown

Yes indeed. This was really textbook flamebait. Unfortunate? 
You bet it is.

On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Mike Meyer wrote:

 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Nolastname [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
typed:
  It is unfortunate that one of the developers with freebsd.org also supports 
  companies that hijack web browsers.
 
 This is pretty much an empty statement. The three active elements -
 developers with freebsd.org, support and companies that hijack
 web browsers are all to vague to mean anything. I mean, my code is in
 FreeBSD, and I by support lots of companies by buying there product,
 and for all I know some of them use popups to hijack web browsers,
 which is something I detest but never see because I'm to paranoid to
 let randoms download code into my browser.
 
 So he could be talking about me, but I doubt it.
 
 Either say something that isn't empty, or go away and don't bother us
 here.
 
 For that matter, go say it on -advocacy. That's where such things
 belong.
 
   mike
 
 

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Re: there must be a better way

2002-09-27 Thread burningclown


I'd like to add to this. I used Windows exclusively (with some sidetrips since 
I was married to a rabid Mac user) from about 1994 to 1999, when I launched 
into Slackware Linux (later other distros but I have since returned to 
Slackware). I first tried FreeBSD around late 2000 or so, and have never been 
sorry.

The great difference in my experience has been that, while I may have 
encountered some hills and challenges in my use/adoption of Linux and FreeBSD, 
using them taught me a great deal about computers and the way they work. 
Indeed, these systems actively encourage learning ... and I have always agreed 
with ol' Aristotle that to learn gives the liveliest pleasure. 

Windows, on the other hand, never taught me anything but the occasional 
frustration of crashes and system hogging. I recognize the fact that it can do 
its job of giving the user a pretty good desktop. But the system did not 
encourage me to poke into its guts, because those guts were proprietary and 
closed. For me (and I fully recognize that experiences differ) Linux and 
FreeBSD made computing fun, and opened its possibilities in a way that Windows 
never did. But I don't think it was intended to do that.

Best,

Glenn Becker

 On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Frank Heitmann wrote:

 
  Did you never consider that FreeBSD is a server system?
 I use it as a desktop system, I hope that's also ok :)
 
 And to the original poster: I have used Windows all my life
 (ok, it's not that long, because I have just become 22, but
 in computer-years it's a lot :)   and have just started to
 use FreeBSD two month ago, and I won't deny if someone says
 it's hard to learn (Unix in general), but if you spend a
 lot of time reading and learning and practising then you
 will notice what a great system it is.
 Also as a desktop system :)
 
 Cheers,
 Frank
 
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Gnome2 build problem SOLVED! Thanks Joe!

2002-07-23 Thread burningclown


All -

I'd like to thank Joe Marcus Clarke for his assistance in getting past the fact 
that a repeated error building gconf-editor was keeping me from getting to 
Gnome2. The culprit was yet another outdated /usr/X11R6/include directory 
(gdk-pixbuf, to be precise).

Thank you Joe. I hope I have learned something in this process.

Regards,

Glenn Becker

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gnome2 and gconf-editor problem (was: 'epic quest')

2002-07-18 Thread burningclown


Hi, all-

Thanks to Joe Clarke's help I was able to get -much- closer to getting Gnome 2 
all nice and ... done. Installed. Learned a lot about examining output for 
clues in doing so, but this latest (last?) Gnome 2 make install error is 
stumping me. Is this another example of old files left in an include directory? 
If so, I can't seem to isolate / fix / remove it /them. Here is the error I'm 
getting:

Making all in src
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/sysutils/gconf-editor/work/gconf-editor-0.2/src'
cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DLOCALEDIR=\/usr/X11R6/share/locale\  
 -DGCONF_EDITOR_IMAGEDIR=\/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/pixmaps/gconf-editor\   
-DIMAGEDIR=\/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/pixmaps\ -I/usr/X11R6/include   
 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGNOME_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGNOME_VFS_DISABLE_DEPRECATED   -D_REENTRANT 
-D_THREAD_SAFE-DORBIT2=1  
-I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/linc-1.0 
-I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include 
-I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include   
-I/usr/local/include  -O -pipe  -Wall -c gconf-bookmarks.c
In file included from gconf-bookmarks.c:25:
/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkimage.h:85: syntax error before 
`GdkPixbufAnimationIter'
gmake[2]: *** [gconf-bookmarks.o] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/sysutils/gconf-editor/work/gconf-editor-0.2/src'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/gconf-editor/work/gconf-editor-0.2'
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/gconf-editor.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2.



... if this points in a particular direction for anyone, let me know. Thanks in 
advance for any clue.

Best,

Glenn Becker

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gnome2 epic quest

2002-07-16 Thread burningclown


Hi -

I spent the weekend attempting to upgrade to Gnome 2 and KDE 3, woohoo. I made 
it to KDE 3 but Gnome 2 is proving elusive. There seemed to be something between 
Glade2 and libgnomecanvas that just ... wasn't happy. When I examined the output 
I found that both were crapping out over the same thing. I was careful to 'make 
clean' before both build attempts:

output prior to this snipped

cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GnomeCanvas\ 
-I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 
-I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/libglade-2.0 
-I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -c glade-canvas.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/glade-canvas.lo
In file included from /usr/local/include/glade/glade-build.h:25,
 from glade-canvas.c:35:
/usr/local/include/glade/glade-xml.h:26: gtk/gtkdata.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/local/include/glade/glade-build.h:25,
 from glade-canvas.c:35:
/usr/local/include/glade/glade-xml.h:44: syntax error before `GtkData'
/usr/local/include/glade/glade-xml.h:54: syntax error before `GtkDataClass'
glade-canvas.c:41: syntax error before `static'
glade-canvas.c: In function `glade_module_register_widgets':
glade-canvas.c:83: `glade_standard_build_widget' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
glade-canvas.c:83: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
glade-canvas.c:83: for each function it appears in.)
gmake[2]: *** [glade-canvas.lo] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.0.1/glade'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.0.1'
gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
*** Error code 2

end snipped


I reinstalled gtk2.0 just to be safe, examined -it- and found that it gets 
installed to /usr/X11R6/include, not /usr/local/include as the above seems to 
expect ... can -I- fix this by simply rewriting the include statement in 
glade-xml.h? Or, er, what?

Any advice would be appreciated and I hope this isn't a stupid question 

Thanks,

Glenn Becker

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Re: gnome2 epic quest

2002-07-16 Thread burningclown


 Looks like you may have some old directories lingering about that are
 causing problems with the GNOME 2 build.
 
 Remove /usr/local/include/glade, and you should be set.
 
 Joe
 

Shoulda known it'd be something like that! :) Can't wait to try when I get home.

Thanks, Joe.

Best,

Glenn

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