Managing bsdpan -- some advice please
Basically I do not know how to manage the bsdpan ports. On portupgrade -a I get long lists like the one below. How are items held How do I decide whether ort not to hold them. Some advice would be appreciated. I have searched for some guidance on the freebsd web site but not found any. --- Skipping 'bsdpan-B-Debug-1.10' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Exporter-5.62' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-constant-1.15' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Text-Soundex-3.03' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-File-Path-2.04' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-CPAN-1.9203' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-SelfLoader-1.15' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-MailTools-2.03' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.813' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0302' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-DB_File-1.817' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-IPC-SysV-2.00' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-ANSIColor-1.12' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Thread-Semaphore-2.09' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-B-Lint-1.11' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-CPAN-1.9205' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Safe-2.16' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-CPAN-1.9102' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Thread-Queue-2.11' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-libnet-1.21' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Shell-0.72' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'textproc/p5-Text-Balanced' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Term-Cap-1.12' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'databases/p5-DBD-mysql' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'devel/p5-IO' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'devel/p5-Devel-Symdump' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'devel/p5-Pod-Coverage' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'devel/p5-Filter' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'lang/p5-Switch' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'misc/p5-Array-Compare' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'textproc/p5-Pod-Simple' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'math/p5-Math-Complex' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'converters/p5-Encode' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'www/p5-CGI.pm' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'devel/p5-AutoLoader' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'devel/p5-Devel-PPPort' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'textproc/p5-podlators' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) Thanks David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Managing bsdpan -- some advice please
David Southwell wrote: Basically I do not know how to manage the bsdpan ports. On portupgrade -a I get long lists like the one below. How are items held How do I decide whether ort not to hold them. Some advice would be appreciated. I have searched for some guidance on the freebsd web site but not found any. --- Skipping 'bsdpan-B-Debug-1.10' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-Exporter-5.62' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) --- Skipping 'bsdpan-constant-1.15' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) [...] Well, for starters, you have no choice but to 'hold' a bsdpan package. The terminology comes from portupgrade, but the same thing applies to whatever FreeBSD package management system you care to use. In portupgrade, a 'held' package is one that is listed in the HOLD_PKGS array in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. This simply indicates packages that portupgrade should not attempt to upgrade for whatever reason. The default setting is: HOLD_PKGS = [ 'bsdpan-*', ] ie. any 'bsdpan' package installed via 'perl -MCPAN -e' or by manually compiling the module source. These bsdpan packages are just normal FreeBSD packages in every respect but one: they have no package origin -- that is, there is no directory in the ports tree for a bsdpan package. This means that the usual ports system for determining whether a package is out of date -- comparing either directly or indirectly against the version number from the port's Makefile -- is impossible to apply and so ports management software cannot upgrade bsdpan packages. As a general rule, if there is a ported version of a perl module then install that, rather than installing the same thing directly from CPAN. It makes ports management easier and keeping stuff up to date a lot more effective. Most of the packages you list are available in the ports tree. You also have about 15 ordinary p5 ports listed as 'held' -- I'm not sure why that should be unless you have deliberately chosen to do that. Maybe because they have dependencies on bsdpan packages? Anyhow, you can probably sort things out by replacing your bsdpan packages with the ports equivalents like so: portupgrade -o www/p5-libwww -f bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.813 (That's actually a slight oddity: usually a perl package Foo::Bar::Baz will appear in ports as mumble/p5-Foo-Bar-Baz) Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Advice please
Hello to all, I just ordered DSL from my phone service (and ISP) provider. I have a Dell dual core laptop enroute, with extras. The advice I'd like, is some do's and don'ts when switching from dial-up to DSL with FreeBSD. What are the pitfalls? I'd like to avoid as many as possible. Regards, ### Pastor Z. Wade Hampton www.oldpathsbaptistchurch.org Only Saints and Warriors are allowed in my world now; and forever ZWH 1998 ___ Webmail access: www.oldpathsbaptistchurch.org/webmail ### ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSL (was: Advice please)
On 11/22/06, Old Ranger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The advice I'd like, is some do's and don'ts when switching from dial-up to DSL with FreeBSD. Not to sound overly arch, but a generic subject is not going to garner you nearly as much help as something specific. It would also depend on whether you are going to be using PPoE or not, but I would mostly be concerned about keeping up on security updates if you are going to be leaving your machine connected most or all of the time. This might also be a good time to start reading up on firewalls and packet filters. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:21:59 -0500, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: I have never used the UPS daemons so don't know how they work but I doubt they are made to work with multiples on the UPS. I've never done it, but I believe this is quite possible with apcupsd. Yes it is possible. apcupsd follows a client-server model. It works great for me. It is extremely configurable and reasonably well documented. There is also an active development group, so it is getting tested out on new APC UPS's as they come out. Sandy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
Hello Kiffin, Friday, November 18, 2005, 10:20:08 PM, you wrote: I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. check this out, I use it and it works with many different UPS. # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/nut # cat pkg-descr This is a developing project to monitor a large assortment of UPS hardware. Network communications are used so that multiple systems can monitor a single physical UPS and shut down together if necessary without any special sharing hardware on the UPS itself. CGI scripts are provided to monitor UPS status via a WEB browser. WWW: http://www.networkupstools.org/ - Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Cezarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UPS advice, please ...
Second the motion -- nut works well with the APC ups's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cezar Fistik Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:05 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPS advice, please ... Hello Kiffin, Friday, November 18, 2005, 10:20:08 PM, you wrote: I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. check this out, I use it and it works with many different UPS. # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/nut # cat pkg-descr This is a developing project to monitor a large assortment of UPS hardware. Network communications are used so that multiple systems can monitor a single physical UPS and shut down together if necessary without any special sharing hardware on the UPS itself. CGI scripts are provided to monitor UPS status via a WEB browser. WWW: http://www.networkupstools.org/ - Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Cezarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Murray Taylor wrote: Second the motion -- nut works well with the APC ups's -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cezar Fistik Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:05 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPS advice, please ... Hello Kiffin, Friday, November 18, 2005, 10:20:08 PM, you wrote: I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. check this out, I use it and it works with many different UPS. # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/nut # cat pkg-descr This is a developing project to monitor a large assortment of UPS hardware. Network communications are used so that multiple systems can monitor a single physical UPS and shut down together if necessary without any special sharing hardware on the UPS itself. CGI scripts are provided to monitor UPS status via a WEB browser. WWW: http://www.networkupstools.org/ I personally use APC UPS with apcupsd (in ports) which works very well with the USB cable supplied. - Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks http://www.secure-computing.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: UPS advice, please ...
And which one do you recommend? I have two mini-towers, one an old dell dimension 650R 200W and another clone anthlon-xp 300W. Do I need two UPS or can I get one which can service these two machines? Both run FreeBSD 5.4. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands -Original Message- From: Dan O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 21:41 To: Kiffin Gish; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPS advice, please ... I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. I use upsmon, from the ports collection. Nothing fancy, and it works only with APC Smart-UPS...but it works great, and the shutdown time-delay is configurable. The Smart-UPS connects to your computer via a serial port. ~Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
On Nov 19, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Kiffin Gish wrote: And which one do you recommend? I have two mini-towers, one an old dell dimension 650R 200W and another clone anthlon-xp 300W. Do I need two UPS or can I get one which can service these two machines? In your case I would get two so that each machine can be signaled to separately and if it is a two way street reply separately. I have never used the UPS daemons so don't know how they work but I doubt they are made to work with multiples on the UPS. If you are not going to have the machine interact with the UPS then you can get one to cover both machines Chad Both run FreeBSD 5.4. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands -Original Message- From: Dan O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 21:41 To: Kiffin Gish; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPS advice, please ... I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. I use upsmon, from the ports collection. Nothing fancy, and it works only with APC Smart-UPS...but it works great, and the shutdown time-delay is configurable. The Smart-UPS connects to your computer via a serial port. ~Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: I have never used the UPS daemons so don't know how they work but I doubt they are made to work with multiples on the UPS. I've never done it, but I believe this is quite possible with apcupsd. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
And which one do you recommend? I have two mini-towers, one an old dell dimension 650R 200W and another clone anthlon-xp 300W. Do I need two UPS or can I get one which can service these two machines? Both run FreeBSD 5.4. The way these daemons work is that after a certain time-out while on battery power (usually set to 5-10 minutes), the computer sends a shut-down command to the UPS and then turns itself off. After 30 seconds or so, the UPS then shuts down. Upon AC power coming back, the UPS automatically turns on and the computer reboots (you need to have the computer automatically boot on restoration of power, a BIOS setting). If you want to put multiple machines on a single UPS, it's nice to inform the other machine(s) before the controlling computer shuts down and kills the UPS... I'd look at apcupsd (although I haven't used it)...from the ports description: It can monitor and log the current power and battery status, perform automatic shutdown, and can run in network mode in order to power down other hosts on a LAN That may be just what you want... ~Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
On Nov 19, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Kiffin Gish wrote: And which one do you recommend? I have two mini-towers, one an old dell dimension 650R 200W and another clone anthlon-xp 300W. Do I need two UPS or can I get one which can service these two machines? In your case I would get two so that each machine can be signaled to separately and if it is a two way street reply separately. I have never used the UPS daemons so don't know how they work but I doubt they are made to work with multiples on the UPS. You can get multiple interfaces on the UPS that will talk to more than one machine to tell it when to do a shutdown. For some models, there is a card, sort of like one that has some number of serial ports depending on how many you want and are willing to pay for - it doesn't add a lot. This is true, anyway, for the APC UPS units we have. jerry If you are not going to have the machine interact with the UPS then you can get one to cover both machines Chad Both run FreeBSD 5.4. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
On Nov 19, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Nov 19, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Kiffin Gish wrote: And which one do you recommend? I have two mini-towers, one an old dell dimension 650R 200W and another clone anthlon-xp 300W. Do I need two UPS or can I get one which can service these two machines? In your case I would get two so that each machine can be signaled to separately and if it is a two way street reply separately. I have never used the UPS daemons so don't know how they work but I doubt they are made to work with multiples on the UPS. You can get multiple interfaces on the UPS that will talk to more than one machine to tell it when to do a shutdown. For some models, there is a card, sort of like one that has some number of serial ports depending on how many you want and are willing to pay for - it doesn't add a lot. This is true, anyway, for the APC UPS units we have. jerry Cool! I learn something new every day. I do expect such high end ones as the ones described here to cost a pretty penny? The colocate facility where my rack is has a building wide industrial UPS system of a gazillion VA so I have not looked in to these since I bought a bunch of TrippLite 1100VA ones for my systems about 7 years ago... Thanks! Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPS advice, please ...
I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. -- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
Kiffin Gish wrote: I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. Search the ports tree for *upsd /sysutils/apcupsd /sysutils/upsd come to mind. give them a try. -- Regards, Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. I use upsmon, from the ports collection. Nothing fancy, and it works only with APC Smart-UPS...but it works great, and the shutdown time-delay is configurable. The Smart-UPS connects to your computer via a serial port. ~Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. The APC company web page has, amongst a lot of typical self congradulation, a sort of UPS calculator that will tell you what model of its product it recommends. If you don't want to buy APC, you can take the specs from the model it comes up with and shop it around. We mostly use APC here and they seem to work. jerry -- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS advice, please ...
I meant to put the URL in the last message even though it is a bit obvious: http://www.apcc.com/ It will even talk to you in Dutch if you prefer. jerry I have a couple web servers running FreeBSD 5.x and need to protect them against power outages. These are two simple machines running at home so nothing fancy. Just some way to do a power down neatly so the shutdown has time to clean up. What do I need and where can I look for more detailed information. -- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking for SCSI RAID controller advice Please
Hi I am looking for recommendations for a SCSI raid controller to use preferably with 5.3 instead of 4.X that can be monitored remotely. What do people use for their raid arrays so that they can verify that they are working ok without having to reboot a system? The only things I have found are the few Adaptec Cards with remote monitoring software that only work on 4.X. 10 Bonus points if it also works on AMD-64 Versions. Any help appreciatted. Thanks N. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
