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Hi Kevin, After going through all my options with the areca 1120, the solution was easy and at the same time hard for someone new to FreeBSD. The card works 100% with freeBSD 6.1, the only thing I needed to do was upgrade to the latest firmware from the website. Specifically the one that you guys are beta testing dated "5/26/2006 2:15:00 PM" you might want to tell all your comstomers using this card with FreeBSD to upgrade to the latest firmware if they are having issues. Thank you again for e-mailing back and forward, again this is not a FreeBSD bug, it appears to be a firmware bug that is fixed in your latest "Beta" firmware. Your FreeBSd user, Lisandro Grullon On 5/29/06, Areca Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Sir, as we known, our controller driver had been buildin from FreeBSD 5.4, and 6.0 also. so we didn't make new installation disk for FreeBSD after that. and regarding the firmware changes, normally we will added these changes into the firmware released note. for the Beta version, because we are testing it still, so we didn't upload changes to avoid confusion. i will forward your comment to our engineers, thanks for your suggestion. and regarding the AMD64 FreeBSD 6.1 installation. after kernel loaded, and system shows no hard disk for installation. could you please switch to console, and do a dmesg to check the driver status ? does our driver module loaded ? any error message on the driver ? we had tested FreeBSD 6.1 i386 edition before, it had buildin our controller driver, no additional driver disk needed. but we didn't verifyed AMD64 edition, i will ask our testing to verify it. Best Regards, Kevin Wang Areca Technology Tech-support Division Tel : 886-2-87974060 Ext. 223 Fax : 886-2-87975970 Http://www.areca.com.tw <http://www.areca.com.tw> Ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw <ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw> - Original Message - *From:* Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* Areca Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2006 10:14 PM *Subject:* Re: Ask a Question I am about to flahs the firmware of this board, maybe that would fix the problem;however, I would recoemend that your evelopment team post, what these two firmware version are all about. What I mean is what changes happen in each of the two version that you guys are currently beta testing. Bellow is the link. ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw/RaidCards/BIOS_Firmware/ARC1120/Beta On 5/26/06, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your website doesn't mention anything about supporting FreeBSD 6.0, > what's the status on those drivers. The freeBSd community would really like > to see some drivers supporting the current Release of FreeBSD. A lot of my > collegues are just waiting for the driver release before they make their > purchase, can you elaborate on this. Lisandro > > On 5/24/06, Areca Support < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > > This is Kevin Wang from Areca Technology, Tech-Support Team. > > regarding your problem, it looks like a FreeBSD bug, here is a > > discussion i > > found in google : > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=429394 > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Kevin Wang > > > > Areca Technology Tech-support Division > > Tel : 886-2-87974060 Ext. 223 > > Fax : 886-2-87975970 > > Http://www.areca.com.tw > > Ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lisandro Grullon" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:14 PM > > Subject: Ask a Question > > > > > > > Your name : Lisandro Grullon > > > YourEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Category : PCI SATA ll RAID controller > > > Model name : Areca 1120 > > > Firmware Version : V1.39 > > > Disk Vendor : Seagate > > > Disk model : ST3300822AS > > > Disk Firmware Version : > > > HBA Vendor : > > > HBA Model Name : > > > Motherboard Vendor : Tyan > > > Motherboard Model name : S2885 > > > Motherboard BIOS Version : Latest > > > Your Question : I am having a problem configuring the controller in > > > FreeBSD 6.1. It all works out ok, the OS detects the card and I use > > the > > > drivers you supply in the website. The only problem is that when I > > try > > > creating the partition using the fdisk/label from sysinstall I am > > getting > > > a "disk geometry" error. Aparently the geometry is not correct, if > > there a > > > way that I could check the geometry of the volume/drive that are > > attach to > > > the controller, please l
Hi i want to ask a question
Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD - http://a.abv.bg/www/delivery/ck.php?oaparams=2__bannerid=130828__zoneid=63__oadest=http://www.sdi.bg/onlineInsurance/?utm_source=gbg&utm_medium=txtLink&utm_content=home"; target="_blank">Гражданска отговорност – Цените на компаниите ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Yes i need to Ask A question
I was wondering this this wireless networking card will work with FreeBsd - U.S. Robotics Wireless MAXg PC Card Ethernet Card, 802.11g, b. I needed to know because I am going to buy it next week. Thank You, please write back. -- Adam W. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
from Ivan Ivanov : > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
Hi, Reference: > From: "Thomas Mueller" > Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:09:17 -0400 > Message-id: <53.21.06836.dac26...@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > from Ivan Ivanov : > > > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD > > I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space > to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from > the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) > Firefox. > > There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, > maybe? > > You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such > as Puppy Linux. Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels & striping binaries, & older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) but Firefox & Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http & sendmail etc. Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, but then equally for modern BSD & Linux, Easier with older smaller versions of OS. (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
from Ivan Ivanov : > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Julian Stacey responded: > Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) > I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, > (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels & > striping binaries, & older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) > but Firefox & Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. > maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, > eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram > doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http & sendmail etc. > Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. > Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. > However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, > but then equally for modern BSD & Linux, > Easier with older smaller versions of OS. > (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Building big ports, including gcc, really can bog down on an old under-resourced computer, even with 256 MB RAM and 12 GB FreeBSD slice. I speak from experience with both Linux and FreeBSD, through 8.2 on old computer. NetBSD too (5.1_STABLE). On this old computer, GNOME 3 live CDs and USB failed to boot and get to GUI: didn't work at all. When I first responded on this thread, I didn't think of FreeDOS (www.freedos.org), but then you can't run anything close to Firefox on FreeDOS or any other DOS. But FreeDOS would run with a 5 GB hard drive all in one FAT32 partition. Work has been and is being done on FreeBSD to make it feasible to install application software via binary patches, that would come in useful on low-resource computers. With 64 MB RAM, I'd look to a window manager like IceWM, or maybe JWM or Ratpoison, but certainly not KDE. An old computer with insufficient RAM for fancy browsers and multimedia can still be useful for a server or router. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:00:11 +0300 (EEST), Ivan Ivanov wrote: > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) > is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 > 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and > 5gb HDD It is very well possible, but you need to pay attention to a few things: 1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. 2. You will have to choose wisely what you install. You can install the OS plus X, and then be very selective regarding the applications. Firefox for example may be a bit heavy as a web browser, but there are alternatives, such as dillo or lynx (in graphics mode). Also choose your work and multimedia applications wisely. There _are_ still programs in the ports collection that are very low on bloat, but you need to do some research to find them. 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant mind yet. :-) 4. Refering to no. 1, you should also aim to build a custom kernel on another machine that exactly fits the hardware that you have present in the Thinkpad. Streamline your kernel. Make it reflect the present hardware configuration. Maybe there are even some options and tunables to make it run better than the GENERIC kernel. The main limiting factor I see is the 64 MB RAM. If you have the chance, try to upgrade it. I know that's not easily possible. Note: I've been using FreeBSD 4 and 5 on a 150 MHz Pentium (1) with 64 MB (later on: 128 MB) RAM and 8 GB disk. This machine could compile the world (even though it needed 24 h to do that), fetch an ISO via FTP, play MP3 music via xmms, and still offer a well responding web browsing experience using Opera. NO JOKE. "Mister Coffee" was my first FreeBSD workstation. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. You can but... too slow 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant mind yet. :-) Actually everything should work fine with window managers you mentioned. The real problems are "modern" programs like firefox. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:00:11 +0300 (EEST), Ivan Ivanov wrote: > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) > is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 > 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and > 5gb HDD Polytropon responded: > It is very well possible, but you need to pay attention to > a few things: > 1. You won't be able to build things from source on that > machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a > second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. > 2. You will have to choose wisely what you install. You > can install the OS plus X, and then be very selective > regarding the applications. Firefox for example may be > a bit heavy as a web browser, but there are alternatives, > such as dillo or lynx (in graphics mode). Also choose your > work and multimedia applications wisely. There _are_ still > programs in the ports collection that are very low on bloat, > but you need to do some research to find them. > 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a > good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or > IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You > need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling > window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend > one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant > mind yet. :-) > 4. Refering to no. 1, you should also aim to build a custom > kernel on another machine that exactly fits the hardware that > you have present in the Thinkpad. Streamline your kernel. > Make it reflect the present hardware configuration. Maybe > there are even some options and tunables to make it run > better than the GENERIC kernel. > The main limiting factor I see is the 64 MB RAM. If you have > the chance, try to upgrade it. I know that's not easily > possible. > Note: I've been using FreeBSD 4 and 5 on a 150 MHz Pentium (1) > with 64 MB (later on: 128 MB) RAM and 8 GB disk. This machine > could compile the world (even though it needed 24 h to do that), > fetch an ISO via FTP, play MP3 music via xmms, and still offer > a well responding web browsing experience using Opera. NO JOKE. > "Mister Coffee" was my first FreeBSD workstation. :-) On part 1, it might be possible to build things on the old machine, but only little things. Ports tree and source tree would really pinch the hard disk space (5 GB). Would you actually boot the IBM Thinkpad by network, keep source and ports trees on a newer computer's hard drive, do the building on the newer computer, and install by NFS? I've thought of doing that, have no intention to upgrade FreeBSD 8.2 to 9.0 on old computer, where FreeBSD slice is 12 GB and I'd have to rebuild all ports , and in all likelihood bog down. On part 2, do you mean lynx or links? Lynx is text-mode but can show images on a separate screen: I did that with DR-DOS 7.03 long ago and more recently FreeDOS. Links can be built with graphics, there is even a DOS port, but a far cry from Firefox (try Midori?) which have no DOS ports. I think there is also w3m? Building the kernel is nowhere near as time-consuming as buildworld. On my older computer, building a custom kernel took about 25 minutes for NetBSD, 75 minutes for FreeBSD 8.2, and 130 minutes for Gentoo Linux, and the Gentoo Linux kernel proved nonbootable. On the last part, time required to download an ISO would depend on type of connection more than CPU speed. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 04:05:36 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: > On part 1, it might be possible to build things on the old > machine, but only little things. It _will_ work, it just will take some time. If that isn't a major concern -- no problem. If the machine is low on RAM, there should at least be sufficient swap space. > Ports tree and source tree would really pinch the hard disk > space (5 GB). Using them via NFS (when needed) or as read-only source from a CD could be possible. However, I'd suggest using the NFS approach during installation time. On the described hardware, the usage paradigm should be: "INSTALL ONCE, THEN KEEP USING". If updates are required, using an "external compiler" would be the best choice. In case you're only using precompiled packages (installs via pkg_add -r), you don't need the ports tree at all. For dealing with the system (from /usr/src), if it has to be present on disk, /usr/obj could be used via NFS on some scratch disk. There are many possibilities to get the job done. They all require some time, but it _is_ possible. > On part 2, do you mean lynx or links? I think it was links that also had a GUI port. There may be other lightweight browsers (like dillo) that one could consider using. Of course none of them will utilize "Flash". :-) > Links can be built with graphics, there is even a DOS port, > but a far cry from Firefox (try Midori?) which have no DOS ports. > I think there is also w3m? I know w3m is a very nice text mode browser, I can't say if it has graphics support. > Building the kernel is nowhere near as time-consuming as buildworld. True, but if you update kernel and world, both have to be processes. Otherwise, you could stay on the installed version level (e. g. 9.0) and only tweak GENERIC into something that is more efficient. But in that case, sources should not be altered. > On my older computer, building a custom kernel took about 25 minutes > for NetBSD, 75 minutes for FreeBSD 8.2, and 130 minutes for Gentoo > Linux, and the Gentoo Linux kernel proved nonbootable. That's normal. :-) > On the last part, time required to download an ISO would depend on > type of connection more than CPU speed. Sure, no big CPU load. I just wanted to illustrate that this old system could do things that some "modern" PCs fail to do: Just imagine users complaining about skipping audio when they move windows across the screen... :-) And I still have the machine I described. "Mister Coffee" is currently installed with FreeBSD 8.2, expecting to be used for experimental projects as an internal file / IRC / maybe OA server. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
re. Hi i want to ask a question
> Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I've been using even slower Thinkpads (300MHz), there are a few things to be aware of. Check on http://www.thinkwiki.org if the ethernet connection is supported, also the graphic card (if you need a Windowmanager). Soundcard can be an issue too. Try to get some more RAM for it. On internet auctions you find them for a few bucks, check on the thinkwiki if the type fits in. From 256MB on it works well, good is 512. The slow processor doesnt matter much if you have enough RAM. Since the harddisk is not very large, you may want to take a look to NetBSD (sorry FreeBSD-gurus). NetBSD is targeted at minimal or exotic computers, you can easily install the precompiled packages without a portstree. I use it for all my Thinkpads (Thinkpad 600, T23 and X31). Cheers herb langhans ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Yes i need to Ask A question
On 6/12/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering this this wireless networking card will work with FreeBsd - U.S. Robotics Wireless MAXg PC Card Ethernet Card, 802.11g, b. I needed to know because I am going to buy it next week. Thank You, please write back. -- Adam W. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Sorta unrelated, but I've had a good experience with anything based off the Atheros chipset..netgear tends to use that chipset. Read the man page for 'ath'. I'm not sure about the card you're looking to buy, you could always resort to ndis if you had to. I'd use Google to help you buy your card, and there's a list around somewhere of wireless cards that work with FreeBSD... -- Jim Capozzoli D6499626857801B6065013E3645A6B75 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Yes i need to Ask A question
On 13/06/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering this this wireless networking card will work with FreeBsd - U.S. Robotics Wireless MAXg PC Card Ethernet Card, 802.11g, b. I needed to know because I am going to buy it next week. Thank You, please write back. IMO having a specific card supported is kind of a problem, because manufacturers tend to change chip revisions pretty fast, and there are some subtle difference between these revisions that can render the card useless - even if the driver supports the chipset. So make sure you find out what the card is actually based on (atheros, ral, etc.) and look up the manpage for the driver. Find the card and check the revision. If your revision is newer than the latest mentioned one, make sure that you can return the card. Or: Take your laptop with you. I did it when I purchased my D-Link DWL-650 from a big discounter. I loaded all available WLAN drivers into memory (gave a nice for-loop and the laptop lots to do). Afterwards the salespersons handed me one board after the other and I checked the console/syslog wether the board was recognised as a WLAN device. It was great: I figured I could go with a ral-based card, but it turned out to be unstable. Next try (yes, I went there again and we did the procedure all over again) I found the card mentioned above. And I'm really happy with it. It's stable, and the connection quality is really good. On a side note: Having a FreeBSD based Laptop with you in a store where people know only about Windows is an experience one should have. They need their time to get used to the idea that there are other Operating Systems as Windows. And that these don't need graphics to work. And that there are people out there that can work with a computer without graphics... ;-D HTH Christian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Yes i need to Ask A question
Christian Walther wrote: ... On a side note: Having a FreeBSD based Laptop with you in a store where people know only about Windows is an experience one should have. They need their time to get used to the idea that there are other Operating Systems as Windows. And that these don't need graphics to work. And that there are people out there that can work with a computer without graphics... ;-D ... here in the UK you'd be lucky to be allowed to try even one card in your own machine. Only reason I bought an Acer is that someone else had already managed to get most of the kinks ironed out (and had written about it). Unfortunately improvements in FreeBSD have taken me backwards in terms of understanding over the last year. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
