DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Noah
can somebody please recommend a good DSL router with telephone and 100MB
interface?  something adequate will do.

- Noah
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Re: DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Thursday 02 October 2003 02:02 pm, Noah wrote:
 can somebody please recommend a good DSL router with telephone and 100MB
 interface?  something adequate will do.

 - Noah
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A couple of questions to clarify for the rest of us on what you're looking 
for:

1) Why do you need a 100 MB interface?  The fastest DSL I've seen only 
operates  at 7MB, in simplex mode.

2) What do you mean by 'DSL router with telephone'?
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Re: DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi,

1) Why do you need a 100 MB interface?  The fastest DSL I've seen only 
operates  at 7MB, in simplex mode.
100Mbit on the internal network is nice. Most SOHO routers today come 
with a built-in switch.

2) What do you mean by 'DSL router with telephone'?
A router with a ISDN interface for fallback connectivity?

recommendation
Draytek makes the Vigor series routers. I've used their 2000, 2200E, 
2200X and  2300 models and they all perform well and are easy to 
configure. Nowadays, cheaper routers are to be had, but these often lack 
in configurability and features.

AFAIK, from the 2200 models and up, at least 8 concurrent VPN 
connections can be used.

The firewall configuration smells like IPF to me. ;-)
/recommendation
In other words: I like 'em... Nico

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Re: DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-10-02T19:02:50Z, Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 can somebody please recommend a good DSL router with telephone and 100MB
 interface?  something adequate will do.

Only your ISP knows for sure.  Some ISPs use CAP and some use DMT, and
certain routers may do only one or the other. 
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Kirk Strauser

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Re: DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Thursday 02 October 2003 03:33 pm, Nico Meijer wrote:
 Hi,

  1) Why do you need a 100 MB interface?  The fastest DSL I've seen only
  operates  at 7MB, in simplex mode.

 100Mbit on the internal network is nice. Most SOHO routers today come
 with a built-in switch.

  2) What do you mean by 'DSL router with telephone'?

 A router with a ISDN interface for fallback connectivity?

 recommendation
 Draytek makes the Vigor series routers. I've used their 2000, 2200E,
 2200X and  2300 models and they all perform well and are easy to
 configure. Nowadays, cheaper routers are to be had, but these often lack
 in configurability and features.

 AFAIK, from the 2200 models and up, at least 8 concurrent VPN
 connections can be used.

 The firewall configuration smells like IPF to me. ;-)
 /recommendation

 In other words: I like 'em... Nico

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Nico,

The reason I ask was that most DSL providers loan/rent/sell you a DSL router, 
such as the Cisco 675/678, which usually do NOT have a built in switch.  What 
I believe you're asking for is a 'broadband' router with backup dial 
capability, with an interface for your DSL router/bridge/modem.

Am I correct?  If so, I think there was a mix-up in the terminology.
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Re: DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Eric,

What 
I believe you're asking for is a 'broadband' router with backup dial 
capability, with an interface for your DSL router/bridge/modem.
I was talking about a broadband *router* indeed. One WAN ethernet 
interface, 1-4 LAN ethernet interface(s). Which indeed connects to a DSL 
*modem*.

(I wasn't asking BTW, I happen to have a few of these lying around. ;-)

Am I correct?  If so, I think there was a mix-up in the terminology.
I believe there was, then.

Thank $DEITY we're not on a Who shall we nuke next? list... Nico

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Re: DSL router recommendation

2003-10-02 Thread Eric F Crist
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On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:33 pm, Nico Meijer wrote:
 Hi Eric,

  What
  I believe you're asking for is a 'broadband' router with backup dial
  capability, with an interface for your DSL router/bridge/modem.

 I was talking about a broadband *router* indeed. One WAN ethernet
 interface, 1-4 LAN ethernet interface(s). Which indeed connects to a DSL
 *modem*.

 (I wasn't asking BTW, I happen to have a few of these lying around. ;-)

  Am I correct?  If so, I think there was a mix-up in the terminology.

 I believe there was, then.

 Thank $DEITY we're not on a Who shall we nuke next? list... Nico

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We could make it one... I've always wondered what it was like to be on one of 
those...  (Just kidding...)
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