How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW
Hi Can I change dst IP in packet with IPFW? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW
On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote: Can I change dst IP in packet with IPFW? Normally this was done using natd's redirect_address capability. In newer versions of FreeBSD, IPFW has grown internal support for doing nat redirects without using the userland natd; for example, see NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION (NAT) in the 8.0 IPFW manpage: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwsektion=8 Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re[2]: How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW
Здравствуйте, Chuck. Вы писали 2 декабря 2009 г., 22:28:23: CS On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote: Can I change dst IP in packet with IPFW? CS Normally this was done using natd's redirect_address capability. CS In newer versions of FreeBSD, IPFW has grown internal support for CS doing nat redirects without using the userland natd; for example, CS see NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION (NAT) in the 8.0 IPFW manpage: CS http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwsektion=8 CS Regards, It says nothing about proxy_rule, it just mention about proxy_only can any give examples how to use it? I need next. packet goes from LAN to INET I need ip of INET change to LAN2 ip send packet to LAN2 and get answer change LAN2 ip to INET ip send packet to LAN from INET same as usual NAT but change dst IP instead of src IP -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-...@yandex.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re[3]: How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW
Hi-- On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote: Actually I have google clue: http://gara.opennet.ru/http_redirect.html but it is impossible to implement that with IPFW NAT. And now -a and -proxy_only are exclusive but in article as you can sen in examples they are not. article is dated 2002 year. NOTICE that src addr is not aliased to 10.11.19.1! kes# natd -a 10.11.19.1 -proxy_only yes -proxy_rule port 80 server 10.11.8.16:80 -v Well, yes, if you are using proxy_only, you are explicitly disabling normal NAT rewriting of addresses-- the proxy_only thing is intended for transparent proxies which listen for all incoming traffic on the proxied ports regardless of whether the traffic is being sent to an IP address which the machine considers to be local. As I said earlier, if you want to change the src addr, use redirect_address functionality instead of proxy_only. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12
Kyle Grieb kyle@gmail.com writes: I get a dead link from [http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp] to download the required file [tzupdater-1_3_12-2009a.zip]. It's up to /usr/ports/distfiles/tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip now. You need to update your ports. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12
I have had the same problem when trying to compile OO this weekend. it is still unavailable. I have just noticed Sun about the problem and hopefully within a reasonable amount of time we have the tze tool back online Kenneth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12
I managed to work around this by plugging the package name into google and downloading it from non-Sun sites. --Original Message-- From: kenneth hatteland Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Sent: Jun 2, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12 I have had the same problem when trying to compile OO this weekend. it is still unavailable. I have just noticed Sun about the problem and hopefully within a reasonable amount of time we have the tze tool back online Kenneth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12
I get a dead link from [http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp] to download the required file [tzupdater-1_3_12-2009a.zip]. This is a dep for 'ftp/jftp'. Google has failed me. -- ~ ##The United States of America is a Slave Nation## ##The Human race is a Slave race## !!InfoWars.com!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: New Zealand DST updates
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 04:55:50PM +1200, Brent Jones wrote: Good afternoon - New Zealand is changing when it goes on and off daylight savings time this year. I have diffs to /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/australasia for FreeBSD 6.2 which take this change into account. To whom should I send this information so that it makes it into the source tree for this and future releases? Run send-pr(1) and attach the diffs. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Zealand DST updates
Good afternoon - New Zealand is changing when it goes on and off daylight savings time this year. I have diffs to /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/australasia for FreeBSD 6.2 which take this change into account. To whom should I send this information so that it makes it into the source tree for this and future releases? Cheers, Brent -- J. Brent Jones, Manager, Technology Services University of Otago, School of Business Dunedin NEW ZEALAND Phone: +64 3 479 8042 http://www.otago.ac.nz/business ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5
- Original Message - From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5 On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime [ ... ] I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it. I think it's been a while since they used softlinks for localtime The use of ln -s will work just fine as written. I don't know why tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo without re-running tzsetup again. Maybe they want the timezone to be correct if you boot into single user mode and don't mount /usr? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DST
Hi everyone, I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it still in the old time zone- Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DST
Hi everyone, I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it still in the old time zone- Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 Paste the results of: zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 date somebody posted this code before: fetch ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz zic -d zoneinfo northamerica cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi everyone, I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it still in the old time zone- Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 Dan Busarow posted an excellent step by step earlier. I used it with success on version 4.8 to 6.2 with no problems (Except the AMD64 port which has a zdump problem). See below, DAve -- Grant, Search for an email I sent to the list on 2/22 with Subject Determining daylight savings changes on BSD It has the steps needed to update manually from source. Here's the steps If you can't use the ports to update your time zone files here is the manual procedure. 1. create a new directory and cd into it e.g. # mkdir myzoneinfo; cd myzoneinfo 2. # fetch ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz 3. # tar -zxvf tzdata2007c.tar.gz 4. you will now have a bunch of files in the directory extracted from tzdata2007b. you need to edit zone.tab and comment out these lines #AX +6006+01957 Europe/Mariehamn #GG +4927-00232 Europe/Guernsey #IM +5409-00428 Europe/Isle_of_Man #JE +4912-00207 Europe/Jersey #ME +4226+01916 Europe/Podgorica #RS +4450+02030 Europe/Belgrade #TL -0833+12535 Asia/Dili 5. run this command # zic -d ./zoneinfo -p America/Los_Angeles -m 0644 -y ./yearistype \ africa antarctica asia australasia etcetera europe \ factory northamerica southamerica systemv that's all one long line the zic command will create a new directory named zoneinfo and fill it with the new zoneinfo files. You can compare it to /usr/share/zoneinfo 6. install the new files by running # cp -R -p ./zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo # cp ./zone.tab /usr/share/zoneinfo # tzsetup 7. to verify that all went well run # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 your should get /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 PDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 PST isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800 I've done this on 1/2 dozen older 4.x and 5.x servers and it works fine. Dan -- -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5
On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The use of ln -s will work just fine as written. I don't know why tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo without re-running tzsetup again. Maybe they want the timezone to be correct if you boot into single user mode and don't mount /usr? *shrug*-- maybe, but if you don't mount /usr, the system isn't capable of running much which cares about the timezone. Even syslogd itself is under /usr/sbin -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DST
Hi everyone, I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving- I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it still in the old time zone- Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4 Paste the results of: zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 date /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 01:59:59 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Apr 1 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr 1 03:00:00 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Oct 28 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 Fri Mar 16 13:26:27 EST 2007 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5
On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime [ ... ] I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it. I think it's been a while since they used softlinks for localtime The use of ln -s will work just fine as written. I don't know why tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo without re-running tzsetup again. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5
Hello -questions: This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of answer I need... I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message that came out on -announce in late February). One is 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 the other is 5.4-release. Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can just transfer the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time). Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 5 branches. Is there a proper way to fix the timezone on these machines manually pending the real change that will happen in the system according to the previous rules/schedule? (e.g. Fix it temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.) Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits into an old system so I can run tzsetup and have everything fixed correctly? I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV). FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm still digging around in both the Handbook Complete FreeBSD and wherever else I can find... Many thanks, -kc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5
Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello -questions: This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of answer I need... I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message that came out on -announce in late February). One is 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 the other is 5.4-release. Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can just transfer the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time). Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 5 branches. Is there a proper way to fix the timezone on these machines manually pending the real change that will happen in the system according to the previous rules/schedule? (e.g. Fix it temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.) Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits into an old system so I can run tzsetup and have everything fixed correctly? I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV). FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm still digging around in both the Handbook Complete FreeBSD and wherever else I can find... Copying the zoneinfo files (and running tzsetup) should work fine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5
here is my quick hack script to manually do this #!/bin/sh zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 echo If sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK echo Otherwise stop script now and rerun from clean temp dir echo also ls -l /etc |more and check that localtime is not a link sleep 5 fetch ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz zic -d zoneinfo northamerica cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT | grep 2007 zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007 echo if localtime is a link then stop and rm /etc/localtime then echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime sleep 5 cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 echo If Sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK echo now rm -r this temp dir $ I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it. I think it's been a while since they used softlinks for localtime Ted - Original Message - From: Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5 Hello -questions: This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of answer I need... I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message that came out on -announce in late February). One is 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004 the other is 5.4-release. Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can just transfer the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time). Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4 5 branches. Is there a proper way to fix the timezone on these machines manually pending the real change that will happen in the system according to the previous rules/schedule? (e.g. Fix it temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.) Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits into an old system so I can run tzsetup and have everything fixed correctly? I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV). FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm still digging around in both the Handbook Complete FreeBSD and wherever else I can find... Many thanks, -kc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Post DST changes
I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 And the command date gives the correct time. But until I restart some applications, I dont see the right times logged in syslog ?! e.g # date Mon Mar 12 08:17:06 EDT 2007 And looking at BIND's entries to syslog, I see the correct timestamps Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN Mar 12 07:17:43 granite /kernel: Connection attempt to TCP 199.212.xx.x:995 from 74.97.26.112:53911 flags:0x02 Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from [64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from [64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the same odd behavior. /etc/localtime looks the same on all the boxes # md5 /etc/localtime MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da [smtp1]% md5 /etc/localtime MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da [smtp1]% yet different behaviour. Any idea whats up ? ---Mike Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post DST changes
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK ... yet different behaviour. Any idea whats up ? This is the same thing I asked about yesterday (Daylight Savings Time -- /etc/localtime and what else?) w/o responses From what I could tell, virtually every process needed a restart. sshd, cron, sendmail, et al were running an hour off. I guess they have a time ref based on their original start-up. After I restarted them all, I ended up doing a reboot anyway -- I wasn't sure if everything had been caught and I didn't want a Monday morning surprise. Today -- all seems OK. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post DST changes
Hi Mike, It appears that certain daemons don't read tzdata except at startup. I'm not using bind or sendmail in production but I did notice this on a few development servers... Probably related to the way time zone info is read by libc. Because really, how often does it change? :) - Chris Mike Tancsa wrote: I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 /etc/localtime Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:59:59 2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400 /etc/localtime Sun Nov 4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov 4 01:00:00 2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000 And the command date gives the correct time. But until I restart some applications, I dont see the right times logged in syslog ?! e.g # date Mon Mar 12 08:17:06 EDT 2007 And looking at BIND's entries to syslog, I see the correct timestamps Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from [198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN Mar 12 07:17:43 granite /kernel: Connection attempt to TCP 199.212.xx.x:995 from 74.97.26.112:53911 flags:0x02 Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from [64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from [64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the same odd behavior. /etc/localtime looks the same on all the boxes # md5 /etc/localtime MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da [smtp1]% md5 /etc/localtime MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da [smtp1]% yet different behaviour. Any idea whats up ? ---Mike Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post DST changes
On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK [...] yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the same odd behavior. Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change. From the tzsetup(8) man page: BUGS Programs which are already running when tzsetup creates or updates /etc/localtime will not reflect the updated timezone. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post DST changes
At 02:00 PM 3/12/2007, Bob Johnson wrote: On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK [...] yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the same odd behavior. Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change. From the tzsetup(8) man page: BUGS Programs which are already running when tzsetup creates or updates /etc/localtime will not reflect the updated timezone. - Bob Note self, Always read BUGS section from now on :( Thanks for pointing that out. ---Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post DST changes
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Bob Johnson wrote: On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this weekend. On all the boxes, it seems setup OK [...] yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !? if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most applications seem this way. On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the same odd behavior. Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change. Probably the most important of these is cron as the major effect with many other programs would be to have bogus entries in log files. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Manual, n.: A unit of documentation. There are always three or more on a given item. One is on the shelf; someone has the others. The information you need is in the others. -- Ray Simard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DST issue (still one hour behind)
I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one hour behind. What else do I need to do? Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)
On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one hour behind. What else do I need to do? If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)
Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a écrit : On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one hour behind. What else do I need to do? If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. I did reboot after using tzsetup. Anyway... $ date Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007 Change time manually you say? Pedro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)
On Monday 12 March 2007 22:24, Peter wrote: Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a écrit : On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one hour behind. What else do I need to do? If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. I did reboot after using tzsetup. Anyway... $ date Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007 Change time manually you say? Yep! Since you probably had an out-of-date /etc/localtime at the time of the (new) change your system didn't know to change the clock automatically. Going forward you shouldn't need to worry about it (unless lawmakers decide to save even more energy in the future...). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)
Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 22:36, John Nielsen a écrit : On Monday 12 March 2007 22:24, Peter wrote: Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a écrit : On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote: I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup. My time is still one hour behind. What else do I need to do? If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it. I did reboot after using tzsetup. Anyway... $ date Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007 Change time manually you say? Yep! Since you probably had an out-of-date /etc/localtime at the time of the (new) change your system didn't know to change the clock automatically. Going forward you shouldn't need to worry about it (unless lawmakers decide to save even more energy in the future...). Ok. Done. Thanks for your support. Pedro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DST on very old FreeBSD system
I've been asked to update a very old FreeBSD system -- an embedded system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time. There's no need to update the OS on the system, because it is firewalled from the Internet and runs the embedded hardware it has to run just fine. But it does need the clock to be right to perform scheduled tasks. If I simply copy /etc/localtime from a FreeBSD 6.1 system to that one, will it work? Or has the time zone file format changed at all? (I seem to recall that it was fixed by POSIX, but I don't know if versions of FreeBSD that old are POSIX-compliant.) --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST on very old FreeBSD system
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I've been asked to update a very old FreeBSD system -- an embedded system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time. I just updated my antique BSDI 4.3 systems, and it turned out to take about five minutes. See if your system has the zic time zone compiler installed, probably in /usr/sbin or some place like that. If so, pick up the new source file /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica from a current fbsd system, become superuser, and run it through zic. It should automatically install all of the updated files in the right place. If you can't find a copy of zic, you'll need to figure out whether that version of fbsd uses the old or new timezone format. The old format starts with a bunch of binary zeros, the new format with the string TZif. If it uses the new format, just copy the timezone files from any other fbsd system. If it uses the old format, drop me a line privately and I'll send you the files from a bsdi box. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST on very old FreeBSD system
John: /etc/localtime on the 2.2.8 system begins with a series of nulls, not the string TZif. However, some of our other clients have 4.x systems whose /etc/localtime files do begin with TZif. If you could send or post the files for the MST7MDT zone in both formats, it'd be a great help. It'd be nice if administrators could just download the relevant files and drop them into /etc/localtime. Perhaps someone with the power to do so could upload the zones in both formats to directories on ftp.freebsd.org, so folks could bring in the zone(s) they needed via the fetch program. --Brett Glass At 02:27 PM 3/10/2007, John Levine wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I've been asked to update a very old FreeBSD system -- an embedded system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time. I just updated my antique BSDI 4.3 systems, and it turned out to take about five minutes. See if your system has the zic time zone compiler installed, probably in /usr/sbin or some place like that. If so, pick up the new source file /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica from a current fbsd system, become superuser, and run it through zic. It should automatically install all of the updated files in the right place. If you can't find a copy of zic, you'll need to figure out whether that version of fbsd uses the old or new timezone format. The old format starts with a bunch of binary zeros, the new format with the string TZif. If it uses the new format, just copy the timezone files from any other fbsd system. If it uses the old format, drop me a line privately and I'll send you the files from a bsdi box. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DST on very old FreeBSD system
system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time. There's no need to update the OS on the system, because it is firewalled from the Internet and runs the embedded hardware it has to run just fine. But it does need the clock to be right to perform scheduled tasks. If I simply copy /etc/localtime from a FreeBSD 6.1 system to that one, will it work? Or has the time zone file format changed at all? (I seem to recall that it was fixed by POSIX, but I don't know if versions of FreeBSD that old are POSIX-compliant.) there is 2.2.9 release on FTP. get base distribution and extract needed files - and be sure it will fit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch
I believe it was also mentioned in an earlier post that you will need to run tzsetup after installing misc/zoneinfo from ports. byron On 2/15/07, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zaman, Rahat wrote: I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to FreeBSD 2007 DST patch. If you've updated your FreeBSD system via cvsup or similar, you should be fine. Otherwise, you can probably install the /usr/ports/ misc/zoneinfo port to get the updated tzdata files from the master FTP site, which is here: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch
Dear Sir, I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to FreeBSD 2007 DST patch. Thanks. Rahat Zaman Site IT Services (SIS PGFS) Infrastructure Delivery Operations Hewlett-Packard Co. +1 858 480 3927 (PG) http://sis.sdd.hp.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch
On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zaman, Rahat wrote: I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to FreeBSD 2007 DST patch. If you've updated your FreeBSD system via cvsup or similar, you should be fine. Otherwise, you can probably install the /usr/ports/ misc/zoneinfo port to get the updated tzdata files from the master FTP site, which is here: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch
Appreciate your cooperation. Thanks. Rahat Zaman Site IT Services (SIS PGFS) Infrastructure Delivery Operations Hewlett-Packard Co. +1 858 480 3927 (PG) http://sis.sdd.hp.com/ -Original Message- From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:08 PM To: Zaman, Rahat Cc: Subject: Re: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zaman, Rahat wrote: I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to FreeBSD 2007 DST patch. If you've updated your FreeBSD system via cvsup or similar, you should be fine. Otherwise, you can probably install the /usr/ports/ misc/zoneinfo port to get the updated tzdata files from the master FTP site, which is here: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes
check ports .. there is a port now in misc (?) that does the tzfile updating for you... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cormany, Adam Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 7:49 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes We have a few older FreeBSD systems running 3.4 and 4.5. Are there patches for the 2007 daylight savings time US change for these FreeBSD versions? If so, where can I find them? Thanks, Adam Cormany UNIX Systems Engineer Scientific Games International Office 678.297.5465 Cell678.315.2763 Fax770.772.7680 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This communication (including any attachments) is intended for the use of the intended recipient(s) only and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail message and delete all copies of the original communication. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- ### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses by Bytecraft ### ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes
Cormany, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have a few older FreeBSD systems running 3.4 and 4.5. Are there patches for the 2007 daylight savings time US change for these FreeBSD versions? If so, where can I find them? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/zoneinfo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes
We have a few older FreeBSD systems running 3.4 and 4.5. Are there patches for the 2007 daylight savings time US change for these FreeBSD versions? If so, where can I find them? Thanks, Adam Cormany UNIX Systems Engineer Scientific Games International Office 678.297.5465 Cell678.315.2763 Fax770.772.7680 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This communication (including any attachments) is intended for the use of the intended recipient(s) only and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail message and delete all copies of the original communication. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 2, 2006, at 2:37 PM, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote: On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:58, Jacob S wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? While we're on this subject, what do we do when DST is extended? I am sure that an update between now and next Spring will bring us updated timezones, so as long as you never update your machine will you be SOL, otherwise you will be ok Chad Yes I beleive that would be correct. The link provided earlier by Dave McCammon was for complete new TZ data. The update is easy and worked just fine for my FreeBSD, NetBSD. Unpacking the new zone files and running make, make install, then either running tzsetup or linking your appropriate zone file to /etc/localtime. Solaris boxes required reading the man pages on zic. So new zone files should be available when the time comes. DAve -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:58, Jacob S wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? While we're on this subject, what do we do when DST is extended? Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana. Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year. Just about any city on the East Coast should do it. tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as #date -d dst? Not sure there, sorry. HTH, Jacob -- --hackmiester Walk a mile in my shoes and you will be a mile away in a new pair of shoes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD/yYl3ApzN91C7BcRAoVVAJ97uhjh30nQ4hd9bQ90gJqiwsLEfgCeKSrg bVfqEeJ09WhO6Y51WHEHb6o= =VTUd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: Geek Code v3.1 (PHP) GCS/CM/E/IT d-@ s: a- C++$ UBLS*$ P+ L+++$ E- W++$ !N-- !o+ K-- !w-- !O- M++$ V-- PS@ PE@ Y--? PGP++ !t--- 5--? !X-- !R-- tv-- b+ DI++ D++ G+ e h r+++ z --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Quick contact info: Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Large files/spam: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GTalk:hackmiester/AIM:hackmiester1337/Y!:hackm1ester/IRC:irc.7sinz.net/7sinz pgpWrAuOryDQ3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Indiana goes to DST
On Apr 2, 2006, at 2:37 PM, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote: On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:58, Jacob S wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? While we're on this subject, what do we do when DST is extended? I am sure that an update between now and next Spring will bring us updated timezones, so as long as you never update your machine will you be SOL, otherwise you will be ok Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
DAve wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:08 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote: Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) is switching to DST. Crikeys! When is Indiana just gonna realize they are far enough west, they SHOULD all be Central time?! I grew up in western Ohio, and I remember it was light till nearly 11pm at the solstice. -Wayne Sorry but after 20+ years of debate every session, it was just cheaper to change timezones, change DST, change anything. Just end the argument. Somehow it came about that changing to DST would save millions of dollars a year and bring in billions in additional income to the state. Not sure how, no one ever answered that question. But looking at the docs for Exchange server and LookOut it would seem that PC support companies are going to make a fortune ;^) DAve And I've heard rumor -- haven't verified it yet -- that next year the U.S. is going to expand DST to the 2nd Sunday in March through the 1st Sunday in November. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:06 AM, John wrote: And I've heard rumor -- haven't verified it yet -- that next year the U.S. is going to expand DST to the 2nd Sunday in March through the 1st Sunday in November. YES, that is what they announced on the radio commemorating the last year of changing in April Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:06 AM, John wrote: And I've heard rumor -- haven't verified it yet -- that next year the U.S. is going to expand DST to the 2nd Sunday in March through the 1st Sunday in November. YES, that is what they announced on the radio commemorating the last year of changing in April See http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html BTW, many people are mistaken in their feelings :^) -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:08:41 -0500 From: DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Indiana goes to DST To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed x x 2 Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations x x 3 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area x x 4 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County x x 5 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations x x 6 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County x x 7 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County x x 8 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) is switching to DST. So I must setup DST manually, or select to #1. I think. DAve That, or just move. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
On 3/28/06, Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana. Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year. Just about any city on the East Coast should do it. For the archive: that's not really the best answer. The timezone file contains much more than just the date that time changes this year. It also contains a history of when it changed in past years, so that file time displays and time interval calculations will be correct. The correct answer _should_ be to install the timezone file for your part of Indiana and let it do the right thing. If it is incorrect, either you need an updated TZ file, or you need to contact the maintainers of the file to get them to correct it. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Indiana goes to DST
Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as #date -d dst? Thanks, DAve -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana. Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year. Just about any city on the East Coast should do it. tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as #date -d dst? Not sure there, sorry. HTH, Jacob -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEKV0hkpJ43hY3cTURAq10AKDmJ81hRUV43+ErCfjz3OE8ISymeQCghCkn SwmRdPtYgOm69fY7zZp5Ytg= =2zWI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
DAve wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? You underestimate the true power of this operating system. :-) Either change the /etc/localtime symlink to point to the right timezone file, or run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configure for post-install config, select Time Zone, and you'll end up being prompted with these choices: x x 1 Eastern Time x x 2 Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations x x 3 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area x x 4 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County x x 5 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations x x 6 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County x x 7 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County x x 8 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County ...which will do the same thing. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
Chuck Swiger wrote: DAve wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? You underestimate the true power of this operating system. :-) Nah, I underestimated the power of our state legislature 8^o Either change the /etc/localtime symlink to point to the right timezone file, or run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configure for post-install config, select Time Zone, and you'll end up being prompted with these choices: x x 1 Eastern Time x x 2 Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations x x 3 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area x x 4 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County x x 5 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations x x 6 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County x x 7 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County x x 8 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County ...which will do the same thing. Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) is switching to DST. So I must setup DST manually, or select to #1. I think. DAve -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
Jacob S wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana. Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year. Just about any city on the East Coast should do it. That was my first thought. I prefer the KISS method whenever possible. Just wanted to be certain there wasn't anything else I should be doing. Thanks, DAve tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as #date -d dst? Not sure there, sorry. HTH, Jacob -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEKV0hkpJ43hY3cTURAq10AKDmJ81hRUV43+ErCfjz3OE8ISymeQCghCkn SwmRdPtYgOm69fY7zZp5Ytg= =2zWI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
--- DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: DAve wrote: Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone? You underestimate the true power of this operating system. :-) Nah, I underestimated the power of our state legislature 8^o Either change the /etc/localtime symlink to point to the right timezone file, or run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configure for post-install config, select Time Zone, and you'll end up being prompted with these choices: x x 1 Eastern Time x x 2 Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations x x 3 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area x x 4 Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County x x 5 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations x x 6 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County x x 7 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County x x 8 Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County ...which will do the same thing. Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) is switching to DST. So I must setup DST manually, or select to #1. I think. Take a look at /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica, particularly for Indianapolis. It looks like, at least on a 6-Stable system(March 7), that if you use the Indianapolis choice you will get the DST change. It(the 6-stable zoneinfo file) isn't as new as the one obtained from the link below but the change for Indianapolis looks the same. This has instructions for updating zone file info. https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20060128100824 I had to use this on some 4.11-stable systems that I have in production. If you find any discrepancies in the above, please let me know. Thanks. Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
At 11:08 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote: Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) is switching to DST. Crikeys! When is Indiana just gonna realize they are far enough west, they SHOULD all be Central time?! I grew up in western Ohio, and I remember it was light till nearly 11pm at the solstice. -Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
Dave McCammon wrote: Take a look at /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica, particularly for Indianapolis. It looks like, at least on a 6-Stable system(March 7), that if you use the Indianapolis choice you will get the DST change. It(the 6-stable zoneinfo file) isn't as new as the one obtained from the link below but the change for Indianapolis looks the same. This has instructions for updating zone file info. https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20060128100824 I had to use this on some 4.11-stable systems that I have in production. If you find any discrepancies in the above, please let me know. An excellent link, thank you very much. That will ensure my file times are correctly calculated as well. DAve -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Indiana goes to DST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:08 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote: Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) is switching to DST. Crikeys! When is Indiana just gonna realize they are far enough west, they SHOULD all be Central time?! I grew up in western Ohio, and I remember it was light till nearly 11pm at the solstice. -Wayne Sorry but after 20+ years of debate every session, it was just cheaper to change timezones, change DST, change anything. Just end the argument. Somehow it came about that changing to DST would save millions of dollars a year and bring in billions in additional income to the state. Not sure how, no one ever answered that question. But looking at the docs for Exchange server and LookOut it would seem that PC support companies are going to make a fortune ;^) DAve -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Indiana goes to DST
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DAve Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Indiana goes to DST Dave McCammon wrote: Take a look at /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica, particularly for Indianapolis. It looks like, at least on a 6-Stable system(March 7), that if you use the Indianapolis choice you will get the DST change. It(the 6-stable zoneinfo file) isn't as new as the one obtained from the link below but the change for Indianapolis looks the same. This has instructions for updating zone file info. https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Doc s/20060128100824 I had to use this on some 4.11-stable systems that I have in production. If you find any discrepancies in the above, please let me know. An excellent link, thank you very much. That will ensure my file times are correctly calculated as well. DAve -- This message was checked by forty monkeys and found to not contain any SPAM whatsoever. Your monkeys may vary It was necessary for me to run tzsetup again to reset /etc/localtime when I did a similar adjustment for the change to daylight savings rules during the Commonwealth Games here in Australia. Alternatively you could copy the appropriate zone file as follows cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne /etc/localtime after applying the new datafile (this is the sequence I used last december) # cd /usr/src/share/zoneinfo # tar zxf tzdata2005r.tar.gz # make # make install # cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne /etc/localtime --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Support with date command and DST issues - 4.7-RELEASE
Please advise as to where to pursue resources on the date command, specifically, help or examples regarding setting (reinstating) daylight savings time. Man pages have been inadequate on this sub-topic, and extensive web search has provided only anecdotal information. Also, in my search I have noticed quite a bit of confusion surrounding these issues, so a reliable or authoritative source would be great. Is there a particular mailing list or newsgroup that would help? Thanks. Jeff *-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Jeff Bogari 408-835-5923 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Support with date command and DST issues - 4.7-RELEASE
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:30:11AM -0800, Jeff Bogari wrote: Please advise as to where to pursue resources on the date command, specifically, help or examples regarding setting (reinstating) daylight savings time. Man pages have been inadequate on this sub-topic, and extensive web search has provided only anecdotal information. Also, in my search I have noticed quite a bit of confusion surrounding these issues, so a reliable or authoritative source would be great. I believe this has been answered. To re-iterate. - Windows does not understand the implications of setting CMOS time to GMT. _ If you run only FreeBSD then decide if you want your system clock to repreent the time on the clock in your house, or GMT/UTC. - Choose the Time Zone you live in from the list. - If you run Windows and FreeBSD on the same machine, and want the right time on both of them, choose local time, and set the CMOS clock appropriately. I don't know about authoritative but all the machines in my network tell the right time, also when DST changes occur. You should use a Stratum 2/3 time server via ntp to keep your time upto date if you worry about the odd second or two (CMOS clocks are notoriously bad at keeping the time). The situation is more complex in Linux, but since this is a FreeBSD forum -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Support with date command and DST issues - 4.7-RELEASE
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:30:11AM -0800, Jeff Bogari wrote: Please advise as to where to pursue resources on the date command, specifically, help or examples regarding setting (reinstating) daylight savings time. Man pages have been inadequate on this sub-topic, and extensive web search has provided only anecdotal information. All you have to do is to choose the right city via tzsetup(8). The system handles daylight-savings transitions all by itself. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message