How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW

2009-12-02 Thread Коньков Евгений
Hi

Can I change dst IP in packet with IPFW?


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Re: How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW

2009-12-02 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote:
 Can I change dst IP in packet with IPFW?

Normally this was done using natd's redirect_address capability.  In newer 
versions of FreeBSD, IPFW has grown internal support for doing nat redirects 
without using the userland natd; for example, see NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION 
(NAT) in the 8.0 IPFW manpage:

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwsektion=8

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Re[2]: How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW

2009-12-02 Thread Коньков Евгений
Здравствуйте, Chuck.

Вы писали 2 декабря 2009 г., 22:28:23:

CS On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote:
 Can I change dst IP in packet with IPFW?

CS Normally this was done using natd's redirect_address capability. 
CS In newer versions of FreeBSD, IPFW has grown internal support for
CS doing nat redirects without using the userland natd; for example,
CS see NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION (NAT) in the 8.0 IPFW manpage:

CS   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfwsektion=8

CS Regards,

It says nothing about proxy_rule, it just mention about proxy_only
can any give examples how to use it?

I need next. packet goes from LAN to INET
I need ip of INET change to LAN2 ip
send packet to LAN2 and get answer
change LAN2 ip to INET ip
send packet to LAN from INET

same as usual NAT but change dst IP instead of src IP

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Re: Re[3]: How to change dst IP in packet with IPFW

2009-12-02 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote:
 Actually I have google clue: http://gara.opennet.ru/http_redirect.html
 but it is impossible to implement that with IPFW NAT.
 And now -a and -proxy_only are exclusive but in article as you can sen
 in examples they are not. article is dated 2002 year.
 
 NOTICE that src addr is not aliased to 10.11.19.1!
 
 kes# natd -a 10.11.19.1 -proxy_only yes -proxy_rule port 80 server 
 10.11.8.16:80 -v

Well, yes, if you are using proxy_only, you are explicitly disabling normal NAT 
rewriting of addresses-- the proxy_only thing is intended for transparent 
proxies which listen for all incoming traffic on the proxied ports regardless 
of whether the traffic is being sent to an IP address which the machine 
considers to be local.

As I said earlier, if you want to change the src addr, use redirect_address 
functionality instead of proxy_only.

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Re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Kyle Grieb kyle@gmail.com writes:

 I get a dead link from [http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp] to 
 download the required file [tzupdater-1_3_12-2009a.zip].

It's up to /usr/ports/distfiles/tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip now.
You need to update your ports.

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re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-02 Thread kenneth hatteland
I have had the same problem when trying to compile OO this weekend. it 
is still unavailable. I have just noticed Sun about the problem and 
hopefully within a reasonable amount of time we have the tze tool back 
online


Kenneth
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Re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-02 Thread twelcome

I managed to work around this by plugging the package name into google and 
downloading it from non-Sun sites.



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Sent: Jun 2, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: re: JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

I have had the same problem when trying to compile OO this weekend. it
is still unavailable. I have just noticed Sun about the problem and
hopefully within a reasonable amount of time we have the tze tool back
online

Kenneth
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JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.12

2009-06-01 Thread Kyle Grieb

I get a dead link from [http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp] to 
download the required file [tzupdater-1_3_12-2009a.zip].
This is a dep for 'ftp/jftp'.
Google has failed me.

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Re: New Zealand DST updates

2007-08-21 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 04:55:50PM +1200, Brent Jones wrote:
 Good afternoon -
 
 New Zealand is changing when it goes on and off daylight savings time
 this year.  I have diffs to /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/australasia for
 FreeBSD 6.2 which take this change into account.  To whom should I send
 this information so that it makes it into the source tree for this and
 future releases?

Run send-pr(1) and attach the diffs.

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New Zealand DST updates

2007-08-20 Thread Brent Jones
Good afternoon -

New Zealand is changing when it goes on and off daylight savings time
this year.  I have diffs to /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/australasia for
FreeBSD 6.2 which take this change into account.  To whom should I send
this information so that it makes it into the source tree for this and
future releases?

Cheers,
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Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5

2007-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4  rel5


 On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime
  [ ... ]
 
  I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it.  I think it's
  been a while since they used softlinks for localtime
 
 The use of ln -s will work just fine as written.  I don't know why  
 tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a  
 symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become  
 out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo  
 without re-running tzsetup again.
 

Maybe they want the timezone to be correct if you boot into
single user mode and don't mount /usr?

Ted
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DST

2007-03-16 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi everyone,

I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving-

I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it
still in the old time zone-

Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4









Jean-Paul Natola
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RE: DST

2007-03-16 Thread Tamouh H.
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving-
 
 I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot 
 the machine it still in the old time zone-
 
 Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4
 

Paste the results of:

zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007



date

somebody posted this code before:

fetch ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz
tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz
zic -d zoneinfo northamerica
cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo


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Re: DST

2007-03-16 Thread DAve

Jean-Paul Natola wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving-

I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot the machine it
still in the old time zone-

Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4


Dan Busarow posted an excellent step by step earlier. I used it with 
success on version 4.8 to 6.2 with no problems (Except the AMD64 port 
which has a zdump problem).


See below,

DAve

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Grant,

Search for an email I sent to the list on 2/22 with Subject

 Determining daylight savings changes on BSD

It has the steps needed to update manually from source.

Here's the steps

If you can't use the ports to update your time zone files here is the manual 
procedure.

1. create a new directory and cd into it
   e.g. # mkdir myzoneinfo; cd myzoneinfo

2. # fetch ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz

3. # tar -zxvf tzdata2007c.tar.gz

4. you will now have a bunch of files in the directory extracted from 
tzdata2007b.
   you need to edit zone.tab and comment out these lines

#AX +6006+01957 Europe/Mariehamn
#GG +4927-00232 Europe/Guernsey
#IM +5409-00428 Europe/Isle_of_Man
#JE +4912-00207 Europe/Jersey
#ME +4226+01916 Europe/Podgorica
#RS +4450+02030 Europe/Belgrade
#TL -0833+12535 Asia/Dili

5. run this command
   # zic -d ./zoneinfo -p America/Los_Angeles -m 0644 -y ./yearistype \
   africa antarctica asia australasia etcetera europe \
   factory northamerica southamerica systemv

   that's all one long line
   the zic command will create a new directory named zoneinfo and
   fill it with the new zoneinfo files.  You can compare it to
   /usr/share/zoneinfo

6. install the new files by running
   # cp -R -p ./zoneinfo/ /usr/share/zoneinfo
   # cp ./zone.tab /usr/share/zoneinfo
   # tzsetup

7. to verify that all went well run
   # zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
   your should get

/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800


I've done this on 1/2 dozen older 4.x and 5.x servers and it works fine.



Dan 



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Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5

2007-03-16 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

The use of ln -s will work just fine as written.  I don't know why
tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a
symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become
out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo
without re-running tzsetup again.


Maybe they want the timezone to be correct if you boot into
single user mode and don't mount /usr?


*shrug*-- maybe, but if you don't mount /usr, the system isn't  
capable of running much which cares about the timezone.  Even syslogd  
itself is under /usr/sbin


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RE: DST

2007-03-16 Thread Jean-Paul Natola



 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm still having an issue with the new daylight saving-
 
 I ran tzsetup entered the appropriate zone- but when I reboot 
 the machine it still in the old time zone-
 
 Is there a patch for freebsd 5.4
 

Paste the results of:

zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007



date

/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 01:59:59 2007 EST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Apr  1 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Apr  1 03:00:00 2007 EDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 EDT
isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Oct 28 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:00:00 2007 EST
isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000

Fri Mar 16 13:26:27 EST 2007
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Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5

2007-03-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime
[ ... ]

I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it.  I think it's
been a while since they used softlinks for localtime


The use of ln -s will work just fine as written.  I don't know why  
tzsetup makes a copy of the zoneinfo file rather than setting up a  
symlink, but making a copy simply allows the file in /etc to become  
out-of-sync if one updates the files under /usr/share{/lib}/zoneinfo  
without re-running tzsetup again.


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Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5

2007-03-14 Thread Ken Cochran
Hello -questions:

This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of
answer I need...

I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update
to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message
that came out on -announce in late February).  One is
4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004  the other is
5.4-release.  Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update
ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can
just transfer the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src
without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time).

Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime
back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4  5 branches.

Is there a proper way to fix the timezone on these machines
manually pending the real change that will happen in the
system according to the previous rules/schedule?  (e.g. Fix it
temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.)

Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits
into an old system so I can run tzsetup and have everything
fixed correctly?  I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it
reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV).

FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm
still digging around in both the Handbook  Complete FreeBSD
and wherever else I can find...

Many thanks,

-kc
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Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5

2007-03-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello -questions:

 This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of
 answer I need...

 I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update
 to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message
 that came out on -announce in late February).  One is
 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004  the other is
 5.4-release.  Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update
 ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can
 just transfer the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src
 without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time).

 Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime
 back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4  5 branches.

 Is there a proper way to fix the timezone on these machines
 manually pending the real change that will happen in the
 system according to the previous rules/schedule?  (e.g. Fix it
 temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.)

 Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits
 into an old system so I can run tzsetup and have everything
 fixed correctly?  I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it
 reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV).

 FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm
 still digging around in both the Handbook  Complete FreeBSD
 and wherever else I can find...

Copying the zoneinfo files (and running tzsetup) should work fine.
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Re: Fixing DST manually on rel4 rel5

2007-03-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
here is my quick hack script to manually do this

#!/bin/sh
zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
echo  If sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK
echo Otherwise stop script now and rerun from clean temp dir
echo also ls -l /etc |more and check that localtime is not a link
sleep 5
fetch ftp://sunrise.ipinc.net/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz
tar -xzf tzdata2007c.tar.gz
zic -d zoneinfo northamerica
cp -R zoneinfo/* /usr/share/zoneinfo
zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT | grep 2007
zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007
echo if localtime is a link then stop and rm /etc/localtime then
echo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime
sleep 5
cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT /etc/localtime
zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
echo If Sun Mar 11 and Nov 1 then OK
echo now rm -r this temp dir
$

I think the ln-s line is backwards, I didn't check it.  I think it's
been a while since they used softlinks for localtime

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: Ken Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:01 AM
Subject: Fixing DST manually on rel4  rel5


 Hello -questions:

 This is most certanly a FAQ but I'm not yet finding the kind of
 answer I need...

 I have a couple of old FreeBSD systems that I can't (yet) update
 to the new Daylight Saving Time rules (based on the email message
 that came out on -announce in late February).  One is
 4.10-stable, last updated late November 2004  the other is
 5.4-release.  Cvsup brings /usr/src in order but I can't update
 ports (yet) to get misc/zoneinfo and it doesn't look like I can
 just transfer the /usr/share/zoneinfo bits over from /usr/src
 without a {build,install}world (also impractical at this time).

 Best I can tell from the message that came from -announce sometime
 back, the same fix(es) would apply to both the 4  5 branches.

 Is there a proper way to fix the timezone on these machines
 manually pending the real change that will happen in the
 system according to the previous rules/schedule?  (e.g. Fix it
 temporarily/manually but not clobber the original rules.)

 Or is there some way to install the new cvsup'ed zoneinfo bits
 into an old system so I can run tzsetup and have everything
 fixed correctly?  I'm in US Central timezone and I've seen it
 reported as CST6CDT (I guess that's in SysV).

 FAQ/doc/book pointers/references are welcome of course - I'm
 still digging around in both the Handbook  Complete FreeBSD
 and wherever else I can find...

 Many thanks,

 -kc
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Post DST changes

2007-03-12 Thread Mike Tancsa
I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST 
change this weekend.  On all the boxes, it seems setup OK


# zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 
2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 
2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 
2007 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 
2007 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000


And the command date gives the correct time.

But until I restart some applications, I dont see the right times 
logged in syslog ?!


e.g
# date
Mon Mar 12 08:17:06 EDT 2007

And looking at BIND's entries to syslog, I see the correct timestamps

Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from 
[198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN
Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from 
[198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN
Mar 12 07:17:43 granite /kernel: Connection attempt to TCP 
199.212.xx.x:995 from 74.97.26.112:53911 flags:0x02
Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from 
[64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN
Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from 
[64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN


yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !?

if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not 
for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. 
Most applications seem this way.  On my more recent boxes this didnt 
happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 
boxes, the same odd behavior.


/etc/localtime looks the same on all the boxes

# md5 /etc/localtime
MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da

[smtp1]% md5 /etc/localtime
MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da
[smtp1]%

yet different behaviour.  Any idea whats up ?

---Mike



Mike Tancsa,  tel +1 519 651 3400
Sentex Communications,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Providing Internet since 1994www.sentex.net
Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike

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Re: Post DST changes

2007-03-12 Thread V.I.Victor
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote:

 I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change this
 weekend.  On all the boxes, it seems setup OK
 ...
 yet different behaviour.  Any idea whats up ?

This is the same thing I asked about yesterday (Daylight Savings Time -- 
/etc/localtime and what else?) w/o responses

From what I could tell, virtually every process needed a restart.  sshd, cron, 
sendmail, et al were running an hour off.  I guess they have a time ref 
based on their original start-up.

After I restarted them all, I ended up doing a reboot anyway -- I wasn't sure 
if everything had been caught and I didn't want a Monday morning surprise.

Today -- all seems OK.



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Re: Post DST changes

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Slothouber

Hi Mike,

It appears that certain daemons don't read tzdata except at startup. 
I'm not using bind or sendmail in production but I did notice this on a 
few development servers...  Probably related to the way time zone info 
is read by libc.  Because really, how often does it change? :)


- Chris

Mike Tancsa wrote:
I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST change 
this weekend.  On all the boxes, it seems setup OK


# zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 06:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 
EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
/etc/localtime  Sun Mar 11 07:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 
EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 05:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 
EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
/etc/localtime  Sun Nov  4 06:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 
EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000


And the command date gives the correct time.

But until I restart some applications, I dont see the right times logged 
in syslog ?!


e.g
# date
Mon Mar 12 08:17:06 EDT 2007

And looking at BIND's entries to syslog, I see the correct timestamps

Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from 
[198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN
Mar 12 08:17:42 granite named[16080]: denied recursion for query from 
[198.73.192.129].1364 for 119.64.22.72.in-addr.arpa IN
Mar 12 07:17:43 granite /kernel: Connection attempt to TCP 
199.212.xx.x:995 from 74.97.26.112:53911 flags:0x02
Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from 
[64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN
Mar 12 08:17:50 granite named[16080]: denied update from 
[64.7.xx.90].2163 for xxx.com IN


yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !?

if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not for 
other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back. Most 
applications seem this way.  On my more recent boxes this didnt happen, 
but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6 boxes, the 
same odd behavior.


/etc/localtime looks the same on all the boxes

# md5 /etc/localtime
MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da

[smtp1]% md5 /etc/localtime
MD5 (/etc/localtime) = 82980b1345aab5a97d90307edfefb6da
[smtp1]%

yet different behaviour.  Any idea whats up ?

---Mike



Mike Tancsa,  tel +1 519 651 3400
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Re: Post DST changes

2007-03-12 Thread Bob Johnson

On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST
change this weekend.  On all the boxes, it seems setup OK

[...]

yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !?

if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not
for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back.
Most applications seem this way.  On my more recent boxes this didnt
happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6
boxes, the same odd behavior.


Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change.


From the tzsetup(8) man page:

BUGS
Programs which are already running when tzsetup creates or updates
/etc/localtime will not reflect the updated timezone.

- Bob
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Re: Post DST changes

2007-03-12 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 02:00 PM 3/12/2007, Bob Johnson wrote:

On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST
change this weekend.  On all the boxes, it seems setup OK

[...]

yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !?

if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not
for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back.
Most applications seem this way.  On my more recent boxes this didnt
happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6
boxes, the same odd behavior.


Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change.

From the tzsetup(8) man page:
BUGS
Programs which are already running when tzsetup creates or updates
/etc/localtime will not reflect the updated timezone.

- Bob


Note self, Always read BUGS section from now on  :(

Thanks for pointing that out.

---Mike


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Re: Post DST changes

2007-03-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Bob Johnson wrote:
On 3/12/07, Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am seeing some inconsistent and strange results after the DST
change this weekend.  On all the boxes, it seems setup OK
[...]
yet mixed in notice the /kernel entry... Its an hour off !?

if I restart syslogd, it corrects it for the kernel entry, but not
for other applications. They all seem to log the time one hour back.
Most applications seem this way.  On my more recent boxes this didnt
happen, but for some legacy RELENG_4 and older RELENG_5 and RELENG_6
boxes, the same odd behavior.

Restart any programs that aren't picking up the time change.

Probably the most important of these is cron as the major effect with many
other programs would be to have bogus entries in log files.

Bill
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DST issue (still one hour behind)

2007-03-12 Thread Peter
I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup.  My time is still one hour 
behind.  What else do I need to do?

Peter
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Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)

2007-03-12 Thread John Nielsen
On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote:
 I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup.  My time is still one
 hour behind.  What else do I need to do?

If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g. 
EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time 
manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time 
change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with 
adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it.

JN
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Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)

2007-03-12 Thread Peter
Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a écrit :
 On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote:
  I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup.  My time is still one
  hour behind.  What else do I need to do?

 If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's e.g.
 EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the time
 manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after the time
 change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play with
 adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it.

I did reboot after using tzsetup.  Anyway...

$ date
Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007

Change time manually you say?

Pedro
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Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)

2007-03-12 Thread John Nielsen
On Monday 12 March 2007 22:24, Peter wrote:
 Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a écrit :
  On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote:
   I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup.  My time is still
   one hour behind.  What else do I need to do?
 
  If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's
  e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the
  time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after
  the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play
  with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it.

 I did reboot after using tzsetup.  Anyway...

 $ date
 Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007

 Change time manually you say?

Yep! Since you probably had an out-of-date /etc/localtime at the time of the 
(new) change your system didn't know to change the clock automatically.

Going forward you shouldn't need to worry about it (unless lawmakers decide 
to save even more energy in the future...).

JN
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Re: DST issue (still one hour behind)

2007-03-12 Thread Peter
Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 22:36, John Nielsen a écrit :
 On Monday 12 March 2007 22:24, Peter wrote:
  Le Lundi 12 Mars 2007 21:52, John Nielsen a écrit :
   On Monday 12 March 2007 21:43, Peter wrote:
I rebuilt my 6.2 system entirely and ran tzsetup.  My time is still
one hour behind.  What else do I need to do?
  
   If you run date with no arguments what timezone does it say? If it's
   e.g. EDT (the D being for Daylight) then all you need to do is set the
   time manually (assuming you updated in the last 36 hours or so, after
   the time change). Otherwise I'd start with a reboot and then maybe play
   with adjkerntz if that doesn't take care of it.
 
  I did reboot after using tzsetup.  Anyway...
 
  $ date
  Mon Mar 12 21:22:22 EDT 2007
 
  Change time manually you say?

 Yep! Since you probably had an out-of-date /etc/localtime at the time of
 the (new) change your system didn't know to change the clock automatically.

 Going forward you shouldn't need to worry about it (unless lawmakers decide
 to save even more energy in the future...).

Ok.  Done.

Thanks for your support.

Pedro
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DST on very old FreeBSD system

2007-03-10 Thread Brett Glass
I've been asked to update a very old FreeBSD system -- an embedded
system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle
the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time. There's no
need to update the OS on the system, because it is firewalled from
the Internet and runs the embedded hardware it has to run just fine.
But it does need the clock to be right to perform scheduled tasks.

If I simply copy /etc/localtime from a FreeBSD 6.1 system to that
one, will it work? Or has the time zone file format changed at all?
(I seem to recall that it was fixed by POSIX, but I don't know if
versions of FreeBSD that old are POSIX-compliant.)

--Brett Glass
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Re: DST on very old FreeBSD system

2007-03-10 Thread John Levine
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I've been asked to update a very old FreeBSD system -- an embedded
system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle
the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time.

I just updated my antique BSDI 4.3 systems, and it turned out to take
about five minutes.

See if your system has the zic time zone compiler installed, probably
in /usr/sbin or some place like that.  If so, pick up the new source
file /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica from a current fbsd system,
become superuser, and run it through zic.  It should automatically
install all of the updated files in the right place.

If you can't find a copy of zic, you'll need to figure out whether
that version of fbsd uses the old or new timezone format.  The old
format starts with a bunch of binary zeros, the new format with
the string TZif.

If it uses the new format, just copy the timezone files from any other
fbsd system.  If it uses the old format, drop me a line privately and
I'll send you the files from a bsdi box.

R's,
John


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Re: DST on very old FreeBSD system

2007-03-10 Thread Brett Glass
John:

/etc/localtime on the 2.2.8 system begins with a series of nulls, 
not the string TZif. However, some of our other clients have
4.x systems whose /etc/localtime files do begin with TZif.
If you could send or post the files for the MST7MDT zone in both
formats, it'd be a great help.

It'd be nice if administrators could just download the relevant 
files and drop them into /etc/localtime. Perhaps someone with the 
power to do so could upload the zones in both formats to directories
on ftp.freebsd.org, so folks could bring in the zone(s) they needed 
via the fetch program.

--Brett Glass

At 02:27 PM 3/10/2007, John Levine wrote:
 
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I've been asked to update a very old FreeBSD system -- an embedded
system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle
the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time.

I just updated my antique BSDI 4.3 systems, and it turned out to take
about five minutes.

See if your system has the zic time zone compiler installed, probably
in /usr/sbin or some place like that.  If so, pick up the new source
file /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica from a current fbsd system,
become superuser, and run it through zic.  It should automatically
install all of the updated files in the right place.

If you can't find a copy of zic, you'll need to figure out whether
that version of fbsd uses the old or new timezone format.  The old
format starts with a bunch of binary zeros, the new format with
the string TZif.

If it uses the new format, just copy the timezone files from any other
fbsd system.  If it uses the old format, drop me a line privately and
I'll send you the files from a bsdi box.

R's,
John

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Re: DST on very old FreeBSD system

2007-03-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar

system that's chugging along happily on FreeBSD 2.2.8 -- to handle
the new start and stop dates for Daylight Savings Time. There's no
need to update the OS on the system, because it is firewalled from
the Internet and runs the embedded hardware it has to run just fine.
But it does need the clock to be right to perform scheduled tasks.

If I simply copy /etc/localtime from a FreeBSD 6.1 system to that
one, will it work? Or has the time zone file format changed at all?
(I seem to recall that it was fixed by POSIX, but I don't know if
versions of FreeBSD that old are POSIX-compliant.)



there is 2.2.9 release on FTP. get base distribution and extract needed 
files - and be sure it will fit

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Re: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch

2007-02-16 Thread Byron Pezan

I believe it was also mentioned in an earlier post that you will need to run
tzsetup after installing misc/zoneinfo from ports.

byron

On 2/15/07, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zaman, Rahat wrote:
 I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to
 FreeBSD 2007 DST patch.

If you've updated your FreeBSD system via cvsup or similar, you
should be fine.  Otherwise, you can probably install the /usr/ports/
misc/zoneinfo port to get the updated tzdata files from the master
FTP site, which is here:

   ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/

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Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch

2007-02-15 Thread Zaman, Rahat
Dear Sir,

I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to
FreeBSD 2007 DST patch. 

Thanks.
Rahat Zaman
Site IT Services (SIS PGFS)
Infrastructure Delivery Operations
Hewlett-Packard Co. 
+1 858 480 3927 (PG)
http://sis.sdd.hp.com/
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Re: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch

2007-02-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zaman, Rahat wrote:

I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to
FreeBSD 2007 DST patch.


If you've updated your FreeBSD system via cvsup or similar, you  
should be fine.  Otherwise, you can probably install the /usr/ports/ 
misc/zoneinfo port to get the updated tzdata files from the master  
FTP site, which is here:


  ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/

--
-Chuck

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RE: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch

2007-02-15 Thread Zaman, Rahat
Appreciate your cooperation.

Thanks.
Rahat Zaman
Site IT Services (SIS PGFS)
Infrastructure Delivery Operations
Hewlett-Packard Co.
+1 858 480 3927 (PG)
http://sis.sdd.hp.com/

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Swiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:08 PM
To: Zaman, Rahat
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Request for FreeBSD 2007 DST patch

On Feb 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Zaman, Rahat wrote:
 I would appreciate if you kindly provide me with information links to 
 FreeBSD 2007 DST patch.

If you've updated your FreeBSD system via cvsup or similar, you should
be fine.  Otherwise, you can probably install the /usr/ports/
misc/zoneinfo port to get the updated tzdata files from the master FTP
site, which is here:

   ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/

--
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RE: FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes

2007-01-10 Thread Murray Taylor
check ports .. there is a port now in misc (?) that does the 
tzfile updating for you...
 

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 We have a few older FreeBSD systems running 3.4 and 4.5. Are there
 patches for the 2007 daylight savings time US change for these FreeBSD
 versions? If so, where can I find them?
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Adam Cormany
 
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 Scientific Games International
 
 Office 678.297.5465
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Re: FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes

2007-01-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Cormany, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We have a few older FreeBSD systems running 3.4 and 4.5. Are there
 patches for the 2007 daylight savings time US change for these FreeBSD
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http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/zoneinfo/
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FreeBSD 3.4 / 4.5 - 2007 DST Changes

2007-01-08 Thread Cormany, Adam
We have a few older FreeBSD systems running 3.4 and 4.5. Are there
patches for the 2007 daylight savings time US change for these FreeBSD
versions? If so, where can I find them?

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-04-03 Thread DAve

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:


On Apr 2, 2006, at 2:37 PM, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote:


On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:58, Jacob S wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500

DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work
around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?

While we're on this subject, what do we do when DST is extended?


I am sure that an update between now and next Spring will bring us 
updated timezones, so as long as you never update your machine will you 
be SOL, otherwise you will be ok


Chad


Yes I beleive that would be correct. The link provided earlier by Dave 
McCammon was for complete new TZ data. The update is easy and worked 
just fine for my FreeBSD, NetBSD. Unpacking the new zone files and 
running make, make install, then either running tzsetup or linking your 
appropriate zone file to /etc/localtime. Solaris boxes required reading 
the man pages on zic.


So new zone files should be available when the time comes.

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-04-02 Thread hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:58, Jacob S wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500

 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work
  around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?
While we're on this subject, what do we do when DST is extended?

 Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana.
 Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year.
 Just about any city on the East Coast should do it.

  tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as
 
  #date -d dst?

 Not sure there, sorry.

 HTH,
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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-04-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Apr 2, 2006, at 2:37 PM, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote:


On Tuesday 28 March 2006 09:58, Jacob S wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500

DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work
around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?

While we're on this subject, what do we do when DST is extended?


I am sure that an update between now and next Spring will bring us  
updated timezones, so as long as you never update your machine will  
you be SOL, otherwise you will be ok


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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-04-01 Thread John

DAve wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 11:08 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote:

Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of 
counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central 
TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most 
locations) is switching to DST.



Crikeys!  When is Indiana just gonna realize they are far enough 
west, they SHOULD all be Central time?!  I grew up in western Ohio, 
and I remember it was light till nearly 11pm at the solstice.


  -Wayne



Sorry but after 20+ years of debate every session, it was just cheaper 
to change timezones, change DST, change anything. Just end the argument.


Somehow it came about that changing to DST would save millions of 
dollars a year and bring in billions in additional income to the 
state. Not sure how, no one ever answered that question.


But looking at the docs for Exchange server and LookOut it would seem 
that PC support companies are going to make a fortune ;^)


DAve


And I've heard rumor -- haven't verified it yet -- that next year the 
U.S. is going to expand DST to the 2nd Sunday in March through the 1st 
Sunday in November.

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-04-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:06 AM, John wrote:



And I've heard rumor -- haven't verified it yet -- that next year  
the U.S. is going to expand DST to the 2nd Sunday in March through  
the 1st Sunday in November.


YES, that is what they announced on the radio commemorating the last  
year of changing in April


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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-04-01 Thread Chris Hill

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:



On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:06 AM, John wrote:



And I've heard rumor -- haven't verified it yet -- that next year the 
U.S. is going to expand DST to the 2nd Sunday in March through the 
1st Sunday in November.


YES, that is what they announced on the radio commemorating the last 
year of changing in April


See http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html

BTW, many people are mistaken in their feelings   :^)

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-30 Thread James Long
 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:08:41 -0500
 From: DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  x x 2   Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations
  x x 3   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area
  x x 4   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County
  x x 5   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations
  x x 6   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County
  x x 7   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County
  x x 8   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County
  
 
 Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of 
 counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, 
 one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) 
 is switching to DST.
 
 So I must setup DST manually, or select to #1. I think.
 
 DAve

That, or just move.



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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-29 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/28/06, Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500
 DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work
  around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?

 Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana.
 Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year.
 Just about any city on the East Coast should do it.

For the archive: that's not really the best answer.  The timezone file
contains much more than just the date that time changes this year.  It
also contains a history of when it changed in past years, so that file
time displays and time interval calculations will be correct.  The
correct answer _should_ be to install the timezone file for your part
of Indiana and let it do the right thing.  If it is incorrect, either
you need an updated TZ file, or you need to contact the maintainers of
the file to get them to correct it.

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Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread DAve
Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around 
since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?


tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as

#date -d dst?

Thanks,

DAve
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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread Jacob S
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:19:21 -0500
DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work
 around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?

Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana.
Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year.
Just about any city on the East Coast should do it.
 
 tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as
 
 #date -d dst?

Not sure there, sorry.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
DAve wrote:
 Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around
 since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?

You underestimate the true power of this operating system.  :-)

Either change the /etc/localtime symlink to point to the right timezone file, or
run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configure for post-install config, select Time
Zone, and you'll end up being prompted with these choices:

x x 1   Eastern Time
x x 2   Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations
x x 3   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area
x x 4   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County
x x 5   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations
x x 6   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County
x x 7   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County
x x 8   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County

...which will do the same thing.

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread DAve

Chuck Swiger wrote:

DAve wrote:

Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work around
since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?


You underestimate the true power of this operating system.  :-)


Nah, I underestimated the power of our state legislature 8^o



Either change the /etc/localtime symlink to point to the right timezone file, or
run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configure for post-install config, select Time
Zone, and you'll end up being prompted with these choices:

x x 1   Eastern Time
x x 2   Eastern Time - Michigan - most locations
x x 3   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Louisville area
x x 4   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne County
x x 5   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - most locations
x x 6   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Crawford County
x x 7   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Starke County
x x 8   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana - Switzerland County

...which will do the same thing.



Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of 
counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central TZ, 
one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most locations) 
is switching to DST.


So I must setup DST manually, or select to #1. I think.

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread DAve

Jacob S wrote:

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DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not ever having had to configure DST before, any advice on a work
around since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?


Sure. Just pick a city in the Eastern Timezone that is _not_in Indiana.
Then it will automatically follow DST at the appropriate time of year.
Just about any city on the East Coast should do it.


That was my first thought. I prefer the KISS method whenever possible.
Just wanted to be certain there wasn't anything else I should be doing.

Thanks,

DAve

 

tzsetup doesn't state whether DST will be set. Is it just as simple as

#date -d dst?


Not sure there, sorry.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread Dave McCammon


--- DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chuck Swiger wrote:
  DAve wrote:
  Not ever having had to configure DST before, any
 advice on a work around
  since most OSes provide no DST for my timezone?
  
  You underestimate the true power of this operating
 system.  :-)
 
 Nah, I underestimated the power of our state
 legislature 8^o
 
  
  Either change the /etc/localtime symlink to point
 to the right timezone file, or
  run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configure for
 post-install config, select Time
  Zone, and you'll end up being prompted with these
 choices:
  
  x x 1   Eastern Time
  x x 2   Eastern Time - Michigan - most
 locations
  x x 3   Eastern Time - Kentucky -
 Louisville area
  x x 4   Eastern Time - Kentucky - Wayne
 County
  x x 5   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana -
 most locations
  x x 6   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana -
 Crawford County
  x x 7   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana -
 Starke County
  x x 8   Eastern Standard Time - Indiana -
 Switzerland County
  
  ...which will do the same thing.
  
 
 Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in
 April. The list of 
 counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are
 going to Central TZ, 
 one county is going with Commerce Time, and item
 #5 (most locations) 
 is switching to DST.
 
 So I must setup DST manually, or select to #1. I
 think.
 

Take a look at /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica,
particularly for Indianapolis.
It looks like, at least on a 6-Stable system(March 7),
that if you use the Indianapolis choice you will get
the DST change. It(the 6-stable zoneinfo file) isn't
as new as the one obtained from the link below but the
change for Indianapolis looks the same.

This has instructions for updating zone file info. 
https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20060128100824
I had to use this on some 4.11-stable systems that I
have in production.

If you find any discrepancies in the above, please let
me know.

Thanks.
Dave


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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread wc_fbsd

At 11:08 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of 
counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central 
TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most 
locations) is switching to DST.


Crikeys!  When is Indiana just gonna realize they are far enough 
west, they SHOULD all be Central time?!  I grew up in western Ohio, 
and I remember it was light till nearly 11pm at the solstice.


  -Wayne

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread DAve

Dave McCammon wrote:


Take a look at /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica,
particularly for Indianapolis.
It looks like, at least on a 6-Stable system(March 7),
that if you use the Indianapolis choice you will get
the DST change. It(the 6-stable zoneinfo file) isn't
as new as the one obtained from the link below but the
change for Indianapolis looks the same.

This has instructions for updating zone file info. 
https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20060128100824

I had to use this on some 4.11-stable systems that I
have in production.

If you find any discrepancies in the above, please let
me know.


An excellent link, thank you very much. That will ensure my file times 
are correctly calculated as well.


DAve

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Re: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread DAve

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 11:08 AM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
Selections 5 through 8 will no longer be valid in April. The list of 
counties changed. More counties than #6, #7, #8 are going to Central 
TZ, one county is going with Commerce Time, and item #5 (most 
locations) is switching to DST.


Crikeys!  When is Indiana just gonna realize they are far enough west, 
they SHOULD all be Central time?!  I grew up in western Ohio, and I 
remember it was light till nearly 11pm at the solstice.


  -Wayne


Sorry but after 20+ years of debate every session, it was just cheaper 
to change timezones, change DST, change anything. Just end the argument.


Somehow it came about that changing to DST would save millions of 
dollars a year and bring in billions in additional income to the state. 
Not sure how, no one ever answered that question.


But looking at the docs for Exchange server and LookOut it would seem 
that PC support companies are going to make a fortune ;^)


DAve


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RE: Indiana goes to DST

2006-03-28 Thread Murray Taylor
 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DAve
 Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:58 AM
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 Subject: Re: Indiana goes to DST
 
 Dave McCammon wrote:
 
  Take a look at /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica,
  particularly for Indianapolis.
  It looks like, at least on a 6-Stable system(March 7),
  that if you use the Indianapolis choice you will get
  the DST change. It(the 6-stable zoneinfo file) isn't
  as new as the one obtained from the link below but the
  change for Indianapolis looks the same.
  
  This has instructions for updating zone file info. 
  
 https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Doc
 s/20060128100824
  I had to use this on some 4.11-stable systems that I
  have in production.
  
  If you find any discrepancies in the above, please let
  me know.
 
 An excellent link, thank you very much. That will ensure my 
 file times 
 are correctly calculated as well.
 
 DAve
 
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It was necessary for me to run tzsetup again to reset /etc/localtime
when I did a similar adjustment for the change to daylight savings rules
during the Commonwealth Games here in Australia.

Alternatively you could copy the appropriate zone file as follows

cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne /etc/localtime

after applying the new datafile (this is the sequence I used last
december) 

# cd /usr/src/share/zoneinfo
# tar zxf tzdata2005r.tar.gz
# make
# make install
# cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne /etc/localtime

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Support with date command and DST issues - 4.7-RELEASE

2002-12-11 Thread Jeff Bogari
Please advise as to where to pursue resources on the date command,
specifically, help or examples regarding setting (reinstating) daylight
savings time.  Man pages have been inadequate on this sub-topic, and
extensive web search has provided only anecdotal information.

Also, in my search I have noticed quite a bit of confusion surrounding these
issues, so a reliable or authoritative source would be great.

Is there a particular mailing list or newsgroup that would help?

Thanks.

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Re: Support with date command and DST issues - 4.7-RELEASE

2002-12-11 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:30:11AM -0800, Jeff Bogari wrote:
 Please advise as to where to pursue resources on the date command,
 specifically, help or examples regarding setting (reinstating) daylight
 savings time.  Man pages have been inadequate on this sub-topic, and
 extensive web search has provided only anecdotal information.
 
 Also, in my search I have noticed quite a bit of confusion surrounding these
 issues, so a reliable or authoritative source would be great.
 
I believe this has been answered.
To re-iterate.
- Windows does not understand the implications of setting CMOS time to
GMT.
_ If you run only FreeBSD then decide if you want your system clock to
repreent the time on the clock in your house, or GMT/UTC.
- Choose the Time Zone you live in from the list.
- If you run Windows and FreeBSD on the same machine, and want the right
time on both of them, choose local time, and set the CMOS clock
appropriately.

I don't know about authoritative but all the machines in my network tell
the right time, also when DST changes occur.

You should use a Stratum 2/3 time server via ntp to keep your time upto
date if you worry about the odd second or two (CMOS clocks are
notoriously bad at keeping the time).

The situation is more complex in Linux, but since this is a FreeBSD
forum

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Re: Support with date command and DST issues - 4.7-RELEASE

2002-12-11 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:30:11AM -0800, Jeff Bogari wrote:
 Please advise as to where to pursue resources on the date command,
 specifically, help or examples regarding setting (reinstating) daylight
 savings time.  Man pages have been inadequate on this sub-topic, and
 extensive web search has provided only anecdotal information.

All you have to do is to choose the right city via tzsetup(8). The system
handles daylight-savings transitions all by itself.
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