Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 04:05:23PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
Update:
Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD,
Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the
FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read
here why is so difficult to use DVDs
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
I will see why totem just-works {TM} with Ubuntu. While here it
is missing plugin, etc..
Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play
stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and
audio formats.
I know that comment about ogle certainly used to be correct. but I think
that may possibly be dated information. My FreeBSD machine is pretty
new, squeaky-clean, and all of the following dvd players (ones which I
have tried so far, doesn't mean they're the only ones either) work just
great: vlc, xine, ogle. Even though kmplayer works, I found it's
interface (which uses mplayer and xine as backends) ssmed a little clunky.
Anyhow, it might be time for taking another looksee. All 3 of those
)vlc, ogle, xine) were really sharp and easy to use, good 5.1 audio
using my optically connected sound system.
I've never used vlc for DVD; nor ogle; am building.
but kmplayer works
--altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling
in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes.
K3b works fine or I should say as good as on any of major Linux
distribution. Something is wrong with your configuration.
Read very carefully
$ make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b
Well, y'gotta cd to the k3b directory, but no prob; that I
remembered from before. I lpr'd it. It's clearly written
by one of us ( a fellow geek).
I may have some followups. I've been reading and re-reading
and re-re-reading the info page.
So.
For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD
is still first rate.
gary
Depends what you mean by playing. Some people use Flash or Java for work
and FreeBSD is definitely not for them.
For me personally works boot as a professional tool and as life-stile
OS. But then it doesn't work for my mother in law and probably
it doesn't work for 99% of other casual computer users.
You're right; I shouldn't have been so dismissive about burning
a CD or DVD. (i'Ve created some data CD's for friends.)
vlc-devel is still building. Hopefully more will be working
after my reboot.
gary
Cheers,
Predrag
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Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:23:52 -0500 Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Even though kmplayer works, I found it's interface (which uses mplayer and xine as backends) ssmed a little clunky. I wouldn't want to use kmplayer like that either, but it works very well in Konquerer. I've found it to be consistently superior to the gxine and mplayer plugins for firefox. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:23:52PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 04:05:23PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
Update:
Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD,
Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the
FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read
here why is so difficult to use DVDs
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
I will see why totem just-works {TM} with Ubuntu. While here it
is missing plugin, etc..
Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play
stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and
audio formats.
I know that comment about ogle certainly used to be correct. but I think
that may possibly be dated information. My FreeBSD machine is pretty
new, squeaky-clean, and all of the following dvd players (ones which I
have tried so far, doesn't mean they're the only ones either) work just
great: vlc, xine, ogle. Even though kmplayer works, I found it's
interface (which uses mplayer and xine as backends) ssmed a little clunky.
ogle fails due to some permissions problem:
ERROR[ogle_nav]: faild to open/read the DVD
DVDSetDVDRoot:: Root not set
p3 15:23 tao2 [1683]
With kmplayer, altho it works with virtually everything,
it is a bi tclunky. Also, it will not show the menu part
of my DVD. So far, vlc wins (in my lineup). But it's not
intuitive at all. A cheet-sheet of the 50 top places to click
would be a plus.
Anyhow, it might be time for taking another looksee. All 3 of those
)vlc, ogle, xine) were really sharp and easy to use, good 5.1 audio
using my optically connected sound system.
It may be my last contribution befoore I cash out, but I *will*
do a thorough, reable piece on gtting k3b to work. ...Hopefuully!
gary
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Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:51 -0800 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With kmplayer, altho it works with virtually everything, it is a bi tclunky. Also, it will not show the menu part of my DVD. So far, vlc wins (in my lineup). But it's not intuitive at all. A cheet-sheet of the 50 top places to click would be a plus. Have you tried using Xine directly? Personally I don't much like VLC on UNIX, I think its reputation comes from good experiences on Windows. I've never seem VLC do anything that at least one of mplayer or xine wouldn't do better, and it seems to be the least successful of the three in playing obscure formats. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:56:50AM +, RW wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:51 -0800 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With kmplayer, altho it works with virtually everything, it is a bi tclunky. Also, it will not show the menu part of my DVD. So far, vlc wins (in my lineup). But it's not intuitive at all. A cheet-sheet of the 50 top places to click would be a plus. Have you tried using Xine directly? Personally I don't much like VLC on UNIX, I think its reputation comes from good experiences on Windows. I've never seem VLC do anything that at least one of mplayer or xine wouldn't do better, and it seems to be the least successful of the three in playing obscure formats. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list Xiiine? not yet, but intend to... Right now I'm wedged trying to copy a 6 gig DVD into a 4.7GB blank. Things keep failing, and I do not know WHAT I'm doing wrong. they have vlc for windows??? hmm, goood, iii s'pose. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
no problems yo play anything that is video with mplayer - including DVDs. On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Gary Kline wrote: Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Friday 07 December 2007 22:37:12 Gary Kline wrote: Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary You may want to enable the xine backend in the kmplayer port. It's more recommended for DVD playback than mplayer, from what I read. I hardly use DVDs but I think it gives more menu functionality if that's what you're after. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Friday 07 December 2007 22:37:12 Gary Kline wrote: Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary For k3b/atapicam: Make sure you are in the operator group and have # CD/DVD RW access via atapicam perm cd0 0660 perm pass0 0660 perm xpt0 0660 in /etc/devfs.conf. If you need to edit this file, make sure to restart devfs: /etc/rc.d/devfs restart Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 04:05:23PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
Update:
Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD,
Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the
FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read
here why is so difficult to use DVDs
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
I will see why totem just-works {TM} with Ubuntu. While here it
is missing plugin, etc..
Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play
stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and
audio formats.
I've never used vlc for DVD; nor ogle; am building.
but kmplayer works
--altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling
in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes.
K3b works fine or I should say as good as on any of major Linux
distribution. Something is wrong with your configuration.
Read very carefully
$ make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b
Well, y'gotta cd to the k3b directory, but no prob; that I
remembered from before. I lpr'd it. It's clearly written
by one of us ( a fellow geek).
I may have some followups. I've been reading and re-reading
and re-re-reading the info page.
So.
For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD
is still first rate.
gary
Depends what you mean by playing. Some people use Flash or Java for work
and FreeBSD is definitely not for them.
For me personally works boot as a professional tool and as life-stile
OS. But then it doesn't work for my mother in law and probably
it doesn't work for 99% of other casual computer users.
You're right; I shouldn't have been so dismissive about burning
a CD or DVD. (i'Ve created some data CD's for friends.)
vlc-devel is still building. Hopefully more will be working
after my reboot.
gary
Cheers,
Predrag
--
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http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org
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DVD's and FreeBSD
Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
Gary Kline wrote: Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read here why is so difficult to use DVDs http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and audio formats. but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. K3b works fine or I should say as good as on any of major Linux distribution. Something is wrong with your configuration. Read very carefully $ make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary Depends what you mean by playing. Some people use Flash or Java for work and FreeBSD is definitely not for them. For me personally works boot as a professional tool and as life-stile OS. But then it doesn't work for my mother in law and probably it doesn't work for 99% of other casual computer users. Cheers, Predrag ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
