FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.
The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the connection with my Internet Servise Provider. Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted via ethernet. If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE. For this to work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC. You will need to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies. Ok, so in my situation the installation of FreeBSD is impossible. What do you think about changing GENERIC or just the kernel in installation floppies in the future releases of FreeBSD? I think it will be very useful because ADSL (therefore PPPoE protocol) is very frequent method of connecting with Internet Service Provider in our days. Read the other peoples' posts. It seems I was incorrect in my statement. Despite the lack of a set of kernel modules on the floppies, PPPoE is still supported. Randy Pratt posted a link to a doc he wrote on getting PPPoE working within sysinstall. Ok, I found Randy Pratt's message in [EMAIL PROTECTED], thank you and thanks to Randy. I will try his method. But I think it will be a great idea to add PPPoE into the sysinstall menu. Then the method will be no to so tricky and abnormal. P.S. FTP installation use much less internet traffic than 4 huge ISO files' downloading. Depending on what you're installing, yes. Personally, I prefer to have everything local during an install. I've never liked the idea of connecting to the internet as root, and that's exactly what you do when doing an FTP install. I partially agree with you, to have everything local is better but if it was possibly I was not asked the question about PPPoE/PPTP and FTP installation. Also I don't think FTP installation through the internet is as security risky as you draws. You have no port listening during the installation, you use just FTP client to download the files. What kind of attack could you be exposed and what root's role will be? Only DoS attacks I think, some kind of flood for example. And if you download ISO files the chances of the DoS are worsen? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.
tis a good reason to use one of the pppoe speaking routers/nat boxes. Brian - Original Message - From: Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol. Andrew wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote: The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the connection with my Internet Servise Provider. Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted via ethernet. If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE. For this to work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC. You will need to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.
Darren wrote: Andrew wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote: The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the connection with my Internet Servise Provider. Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted via ethernet. If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE. For this to work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC. You will need to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies. Happily, kernel configuration is no longer necessary for PPPoE. If the necessary netgraph support is not built into the kernel, it will be dynamically loaded by ppp (See handbook section on PPPoE). I have Earthlink and their modems do not have integral PPPoE or NAT but it is possible to connect with Sysinstall and install via FTP. Granted, it is not straightforward since the ethernet device and ppp have to be configured prior to starting the installation. I kept a few notes and dressed them up a little on how to do an FTP install using PPPoE: http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html They could probably use some more work, but they should be usable. Hope this helps the original poster. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:45:03 -0800 Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy Pratt wrote: Darren wrote: Andrew wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote: The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the connection with my Internet Servise Provider. Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted via ethernet. If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE. For this to work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC. You will need to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies. Happily, kernel configuration is no longer necessary for PPPoE. If the necessary netgraph support is not built into the kernel, it will be dynamically loaded by ppp (See handbook section on PPPoE). Yes, but with floppies, the kernel modules aren't available, are they? Am I missing something? Like you, I don't see any modules on the floppies but they do indeed support PPPoE. I'm not sure how the magic works but I'm assuming that the support is built into the GENERIC kernel. Perhaps one of our kernel gurus could shed a bit more light on this. I have installed both 4.7-R and 5.0-DP1 using the two floppies and PPPoE/FTP. It would be nice if this were a menu option of Sysinstall but very few people have a real need for this method. Typically, those with broadband will download and burn an installation cdrom. My apologies for not being able to answer more definitively. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
