Re: 2 GNOME questions... .
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 03:15:01PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: If there is a gnome-questions list for FBSD, I'll redirect threr. It's just that after years with CTMW (and a seriously great/fast server), I'm switching to gnome or xfce. One thing that I've noticed with zsh is that when I uparrow to add to or vi-edit a command, under Gnome, the cursor is at the left-hand-side of the cmd line. So if I were to pipe the cmd thru more, for example, I'v got to reach up, hit ESC and then arrow rightward until I come to the end of the command. Is there an easy fix for this? Using CTWM the cursor is already on the RHS. Well, at least one solution to this is to use or try bash. bash commands are repeated with the up-arrow at the end-of-command. Then % exit back to zsh. The cursor is positioned at the end-of-commandline. Second question: how can I make the digital time on the bar/panel *larger*? I'm not blind; just that the typefface is hard to read until I get close to the tube. ANybody?? tia, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 GNOME questions... .
If there is a gnome-questions list for FBSD, I'll redirect threr. It's just that after years with CTMW (and a seriously great/fast server), I'm switching to gnome or xfce. One thing that I've noticed with zsh is that when I uparrow to add to or vi-edit a command, under Gnome, the cursor is at the left-hand-side of the cmd line. So if I were to pipe the cmd thru more, for example, I'v got to reach up, hit ESC and then arrow rightward until I come to the end of the command. Is there an easy fix for this? Using CTWM the cursor is already on the RHS. Second question: how can I make the digital time on the bar/panel *larger*? I'm not blind; just that the typefface is hard to read until I get close to the tube. ANybody?? tia, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 06:26, Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 12:00:02AM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 21:36, Gary Kline wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? gnome-terminal can save settings in classes, and a class can be specified on the launch command line. If you want them to open when Gnome starts, add them in the session startup control. In what specific file? Say that I want two xterms with a -14-- point type, one anchored at +0-0 and the other anchored at +0+0. Also, let's say that I want one to be initialized with '-iconic' and the other to be displayed. Where is the session startup control? (i have looked for docs on by-hand configuration; haven't found it.) The system I am working on at home is back on good old Gnome 1.4, but man gnome-terminal says: The GNOME terminal allows you to have different configuration profiles to suit different uses (different background colours, presence, absence or position of scrollbars, and so on). To set these up, you invoke the preferences dialogue box from the settings menu of gnome-terminal. Select the options you prefer (these changes will be made to your currently-open terminal, so you can see what they look like), and before closing the preferences box, make sure you have put a new name in the space marked Terminal Class. To activate a specific class at program startup you can use the --tclass command line option -- Gary Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honolulu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:11:52AM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 06:26, Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 12:00:02AM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 21:36, Gary Kline wrote: In what specific file? Say that I want two xterms with a -14-- point type, one anchored at +0-0 and the other anchored at +0+0. Also, let's say that I want one to be initialized with '-iconic' and the other to be displayed. Where is the session startup control? (i have looked for docs on by-hand configuration; haven't found it.) The system I am working on at home is back on good old Gnome 1.4, but man gnome-terminal says: The GNOME terminal allows you to have different configuration profiles to suit different uses (different background colours, presence, absence or position of scrollbars, and so on). To set these up, you invoke the preferences dialogue box from the settings menu of gnome-terminal. Select the options you prefer (these changes will be made to your currently-open terminal, so you can see what they look like), and before closing the preferences box, make sure you have put a new name in the space marked Terminal Class. To activate a specific class at program startup you can use the --tclass command line option So far I get a message that terminal setups cannot be saved; that I will have to restart the terms the next time I start up the manager. I was able to use one of' those boxes to set up 'rclock' on the first workspace. I'll check the gnome-term menus. Thanks for your help. gary -- Gary Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honolulu -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 21:36, Gary Kline wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? gnome-terminal can save settings in classes, and a class can be specified on the launch command line. If you want them to open when Gnome starts, add them in the session startup control. Is it possible to have an xload app of a given size (or other GUI apps) and have them appear on various workspaces, or *all* workspaces? Finally, how can I set up the Fn keys to perform certain tasks, for example, have F2 minimize a window/xterm/app, and have F3 put the same application in front? I think these are not so much Gnome attributes, they belong to the underlying window manager. Sawfish, for example. Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! A GUI is to the OS what a CPU case is to a motherboard. I am a Gnome fan because it has the potential to bring OSS OSes to the masses. I have always been a Mac fan, and like a well-designed GUI on my workstation. But when I work on my servers I just ssh in and type away. Go figure. -- Gary Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honolulu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 12:00:02AM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 21:36, Gary Kline wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? gnome-terminal can save settings in classes, and a class can be specified on the launch command line. If you want them to open when Gnome starts, add them in the session startup control. In what specific file? Say that I want two xterms with a -14-- point type, one anchored at +0-0 and the other anchored at +0+0. Also, let's say that I want one to be initialized with '-iconic' and the other to be displayed. Where is the session startup control? (i have looked for docs on by-hand configuration; haven't found it.) [ ... ] Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! A GUI is to the OS what a CPU case is to a motherboard. I am a Gnome fan because it has the potential to bring OSS OSes to the masses. I have always been a Mac fan, and like a well-designed GUI on my workstation. But when I work on my servers I just ssh in and type away. Go figure. In just the past few years the number of Gnome-specific apps have mushroomed--it's great that FBSD is getting more user-friendly--but without these hooks I get a slew of output to stderr. That's why it's time to move on, move up. Given my familiar set of xterms in various workspaces, switching would be much easier. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 12:00:02AM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 21:36, Gary Kline wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? gnome-terminal can save settings in classes, and a class can be specified on the launch command line. If you want them to open when Gnome starts, add them in the session startup control. In what specific file? Say that I want two xterms with a -14-- point type, one anchored at +0-0 and the other anchored at +0+0. Also, let's say that I want one to be initialized with '-iconic' and the other to be displayed. Where is the session startup control? (i have looked for docs on by-hand configuration; haven't found it.) Clicky, clicky. Gnome Menu Applications Desktop Preferences Advanced Session ... pick the startup tab. I *think* this is what you are asking? I beg forgiveness in advance for a] butting in, b] any obtuseness, missing the point, etc. Kevin Kinsey ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:46:43AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 12:00:02AM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-06 at 21:36, Gary Kline wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? gnome-terminal can save settings in classes, and a class can be specified on the launch command line. If you want them to open when Gnome starts, add them in the session startup control. In what specific file? Say that I want two xterms with a -14-- point type, one anchored at +0-0 and the other anchored at +0+0. Also, let's say that I want one to be initialized with '-iconic' and the other to be displayed. Where is the session startup control? (i have looked for docs on by-hand configuration; haven't found it.) Clicky, clicky. Gnome Menu Applications Desktop Preferences Advanced Session ... pick the startup tab. I *think* this is what you are asking? I beg forgiveness in advance for a] butting in, b] any obtuseness, missing the point, etc. Thanks for your help. Right now I'm in the midst of portupgrading three servers. So it'll be awhile. My test platform for Gnome is my Thinkpad 600E that I've beefed up as far as possible. The laptop is my testbed for new wm's. (I figure if things will work on a 400MHz, 288M computer, they'll work elsewhere ... I may be wrong!!) Will I be able to edit this startup? All I want to do is find the right file to drop in some customization. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNOME questions
To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? Is it possible to have an xload app of a given size (or other GUI apps) and have them appear on various workspaces, or *all* workspaces? Finally, how can I set up the Fn keys to perform certain tasks, for example, have F2 minimize a window/xterm/app, and have F3 put the same application in front? Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:36:59 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? Is it possible to have an xload app of a given size (or other GUI apps) and have them appear on various workspaces, or *all* workspaces? Finally, how can I set up the Fn keys to perform certain tasks, for example, have F2 minimize a window/xterm/app, and have F3 put the same application in front? Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! hello gary, i hope that you don't take this the wrong way... i think that gnome.org and any of their forums/mailing lists would probably be much more appropriate venues for your questions. from what i can see, none of these points relate directly to freebsd. just a thought. cheers, epi gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
Hello The xterms can be sized using .Xdefaults in your home directory. Read the man page for xterm. This should, but not always, set the size of your xterm independent of the window manger you are running, KDE, Gnome, FVWM,. On Thursday 07 October 2004 01:36, Gary Kline wrote: To the Gnome wizards out there, I've been experimenting with different window managers and need some tips on how making Gnome more comfortable feel. Here are some miscellaneous questions: How do I create different sized xterms and/or gnome terms of different sizes in different workspaces? Is it possible to have an xload app of a given size (or other GUI apps) and have them appear on various workspaces, or *all* workspaces? Finally, how can I set up the Fn keys to perform certain tasks, for example, have F2 minimize a window/xterm/app, and have F3 put the same application in front? Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! gary ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 04:27:02AM -0400, epilogue wrote: On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:36:59 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [[ ... ]] hello gary, i hope that you don't take this the wrong way... i think that gnome.org and any of their forums/mailing lists would probably be much more appropriate venues for your questions. from what i can see, none of these points relate directly to freebsd. just a thought. Point well taken. I didn't look for a gnome list. thanks, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 07:33:21AM -0600, Aaron Siegel wrote: Hello The xterms can be sized using .Xdefaults in your home directory. Read the man page for xterm. This should, but not always, set the size of your xterm independent of the window manger you are running, KDE, Gnome, FVWM,. I already have a number of defaults set for my xterms in ~/.Xdefaults. What I want to do is have K xterms/workspace, have them display by default when Gnome is instantiated-- have a couple with pointsize at --12- and others at --14- anchored at +N-M coordinates. Hm, maybe I can symlink xterm - xterm1 and have different sizes, fonts, c in ~/.Xdefaults. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Thursday 07 October 2004 08:36, Gary Kline wrote: Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! Try xfce4. XCFe started life as a CDE clone, but the later versions are quite configurable, and it's more lightweight than Gnome or KDE. Personally I don't much like Gnome on BSD or Gentoo because I've had a lot of bad experiences building and updating it. KDE takes a bit longer to upgrade, but it's usually straightforward. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME questions
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 09:01:45PM +0100, R. W. wrote: On Thursday 07 October 2004 08:36, Gary Kline wrote: Both Gnome and KDE are nice front ends, but a bit heavy on the graphical interface side for a CLI hacker like me. Feedback welcome! Try xfce4. XCFe started life as a CDE clone, but the later versions are quite configurable, and it's more lightweight than Gnome or KDE. Personally I don't much like Gnome on BSD or Gentoo because I've had a lot of bad experiences building and updating it. KDE takes a bit longer to upgrade, but it's usually straightforward. At last month's meeting of the Seattle BSD group a' member suggested xfce4. (I briefly presented CTWM and talking to ctwm users, it looks like a lost cause; or else a long-wait[1].) I'm installing xfce4 now. Gnome/KDE both seem very well thought out. But hard to tweak unless you dig into the code and find out what XML(?) files to use. I give 5 gold stars to the people who have written this stuff, but they seem to have forgotten the hackers and the CLI types (*mumble*) gary [1] For Gnome-compat hooks. -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
