Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Colin Percival wrote: Andrew P. wrote: On 10/6/05, Mikael Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? If you like being up-to-date, you should consider using portsnap, which is much more efficient than cvsup. You can update every other couple of hours then - and you'll probably waste less bandwidth in a week than you would with cvsup in one run. Portsnap certainly is more efficient than cvsup for frequent updating, but for most people, updating the ports tree every 2 hours is rather pointless. On my 6.0-beta systems, I have a nightly cron job which runs portsnap -I cron update pkg_version -vIL= colin, what is this I parameter to pkg_version supposed to be? i don't seem to have it here on 5.4R. cheers, martin which downloads updates, builds new ports INDEX files, and emails me a list of installed packages which are out of date. When I get such an email, I log into the system and run portsnap update portupgrade -a which updates the ports tree and rebuilds the installed packages which are out of date. Between FreeBSD Update, portsnap, and portupgrade, I doubt I spend more than half an hour per month keeping each system up to date. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
martinko wrote: Colin Percival wrote: portsnap -I cron update pkg_version -vIL= what is this I parameter to pkg_version supposed to be? i don't seem to have it here on 5.4R. It's a new flag in 6.0R; it means just use the INDEX, you stupid program. ;-) Without that flag, pkg_version tries to be intelligent -- it will go into each port directory and run /usr/bin/make -V PKGNAME in order to work out exactly what version of the port is in the tree, and will only use the INDEX if that fails. Unfortunately, running make(1) repeatedly makes pkg_version about 50 times slower than if it just uses the INDEX file; so if you know that the INDEX is up to date (which will be the case if you use portsnap), the -I option makes pkg_version much faster. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Colin Percival wrote: martinko wrote: Colin Percival wrote: portsnap -I cron update pkg_version -vIL= what is this I parameter to pkg_version supposed to be? i don't seem to have it here on 5.4R. It's a new flag in 6.0R; it means just use the INDEX, you stupid program. ;-) Without that flag, pkg_version tries to be intelligent -- it will go into each port directory and run /usr/bin/make -V PKGNAME in order to work out exactly what version of the port is in the tree, and will only use the INDEX if that fails. Unfortunately, running make(1) repeatedly makes pkg_version about 50 times slower than if it just uses the INDEX file; so if you know that the INDEX is up to date (which will be the case if you use portsnap), the -I option makes pkg_version much faster. Colin Percival many thanks for your explanation and many thanks for the new functionality! m:) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How often cvsup the ports?
Hi. I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Mikael Backman wrote: Hi. I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? As often as you like/need. I usually do it manually every 1-3 days. Cvsup is quite efficient, so you shouldn't have to worry about overloading the cvsup servers if you do it frequently. On the other hand, cvsupping every 6 hours when you only check the results once a day is overkill. You can also track changes to the ports tree via http://www.freshports.org and cvsup when you see an interesting change there. Cheers Benjamin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
On Oct 6, 2005, at 6:24 AM, Mikael Backman wrote: Hi. I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? How often do you *need* updated ports? How often do you *need* an updated FreeBSD? Or is it just a matter of *want*. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
On 10/6/05, Mikael Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you like being up-to-date, you should consider using portsnap, which is much more efficient than cvsup. You can update every other couple of hours then - and you'll probably waste less bandwidth in a week than you would with cvsup in one run. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Mikael Backman wrote: I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? Install portaudit. Pay attention to your nightly email. When you notice portaudit reporting that you have ports installed with known security vulnerabilities, it's a good time to update your ports. You can update more frequently than that, of course. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
On 10/6/05, Mikael Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? I usually cvsup the ports every time I install a port. That way I know I'm getting the latest available ports. There's not much point in running cvsup when you are not going to be using the result. Similarly, I update the source only when I'm going to be updating the system. Otherwise, I want to keep the source I actually used to build the system, in case I need to rebuild something. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Benjamin Lutz writes: I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? As often as you like/need. I usually do it manually every 1-3 days. I upgrade the ports tree every night. Building the ports depends on the number and identity. Small items and security fixes get done daily; monsters like Mozilla and its kindred every couple of days; OpenOffice ... urk. (NB: I have a 7 mbit broadband connection and the build machine has periods when it's not doing much of anything else.) Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Andrew P. wrote: On 10/6/05, Mikael Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? If you like being up-to-date, you should consider using portsnap, which is much more efficient than cvsup. You can update every other couple of hours then - and you'll probably waste less bandwidth in a week than you would with cvsup in one run. Portsnap certainly is more efficient than cvsup for frequent updating, but for most people, updating the ports tree every 2 hours is rather pointless. On my 6.0-beta systems, I have a nightly cron job which runs portsnap -I cron update pkg_version -vIL= which downloads updates, builds new ports INDEX files, and emails me a list of installed packages which are out of date. When I get such an email, I log into the system and run portsnap update portupgrade -a which updates the ports tree and rebuilds the installed packages which are out of date. Between FreeBSD Update, portsnap, and portupgrade, I doubt I spend more than half an hour per month keeping each system up to date. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
