Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-23 Thread Robert Slade
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 20:39, Charles Swiger wrote:
 On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:
   Please  advise me , I would like to know  that : Does BSD5.4  
  support High Availability Clustering same like RedHatAS3.0 ?  In  
  term of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support  
  redundancy of fail over single point of failure, that if one server  
  fail then another one can be promote to handle application service  
  by share disk-storage in a middle.
 
 Hmm.  The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which  
 handles NFS or Samba failover transparently.

Chuck,

Sorry to disagree. There is a port of Heartbeat to free BSD, (it is in
the ports). It does handle NFS and Samba failover transparently. In fact
it will handle almost anything that you can start and stop via a script.

Rob 

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Need your advise.

2005-06-23 Thread Nuttapon Tharachaikul
To Support,
 I'm interest on BSD-OS.
 Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux.
 1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly. 
 But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for what ? 
 - CHECKSUM.MD5
 2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I check 
this.
 Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler 
about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not.
 Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose and how to 
handle of its.

 If I would like to order SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition, Users Guide 
Bundle from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand.
 1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ? 
 2. How long for delivery ?
 3. And Could you give me for discount ?

 
Best Regards,
Nuttapon Tharachaikul
Thailand.
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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-23 Thread Bernhard Fischer
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 21:28, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:
 To Support,
  I'm interest on BSD-OS.
  Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux.
  1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly.
  But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for what
 ? - CHECKSUM.MD5

Using the MD5 checksum you can verify if the file you downloaded ist exactly 
the same as the file it should be, e.g. type md5sum 
5.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and compare the result.

  2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I check
 this. Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler
 about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not. Have any
 reference information's source the explain the purpose and how to handle of
 its.

Start reading this:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/relnotes.html

bh


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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-23 Thread Chuck Swiger

Robert Slade wrote:

On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 20:39, Charles Swiger wrote:

[ ... ]
Hmm.  The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which  
handles NFS or Samba failover transparently.


Chuck,

Sorry to disagree. There is a port of Heartbeat to free BSD, (it is in
the ports). It does handle NFS and Samba failover transparently. In fact
it will handle almost anything that you can start and stop via a script.


I don't mind the disagreement: if the heartbeat port solves this problem, good 
for it.  But by the same token, there are lots of third-party hardware 
loadbalancers and transaction servers and whatnot which use some variant on 
proxy-ARPing and can turn FreeBSD clients into what people call a cluster.


The thing is, you end up having to implement your own syncronization scripts, 
pretty much on a per-service basis.  It's real easy to end up with conflicting 
filesystems when a failure happens.  So it's not quite the same thing as having 
the clustering capability built into the base system, and having the system 
/etc/rc scripts already HA/cluster-aware.


Then again, lots of cluster products which are integrated into the OS, such as 
Microsoft's cluster solution, or Apple's XSAN, or probably even RedHat's HA 
cluster product, don't really deal with syncronization transparently, either-- 
they all seem to want a reliable NAS storage behind the scenes, or a metadata 
controller, or who-knows-what (respectively :-).  Lots of people buy two 
machines, and the Microsoft cluster product, and are real suprised to learn 
that that isn't enough to have a working cluster.


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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-23 Thread Nuttapon Tharachaikul

Dear Bernhard,
  Thanks your very much. : )
Best Regards,
Nuttapon T.


From: Bernhard Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org,Nuttapon Tharachaikul 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Need your advise.
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:13:38 +0200

On Wednesday 22 June 2005 21:28, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:
 To Support,
  I'm interest on BSD-OS.
  Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux.
  1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly.
  But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for 
what

 ? - CHECKSUM.MD5

Using the MD5 checksum you can verify if the file you downloaded ist 
exactly

the same as the file it should be, e.g. type md5sum
5.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and compare the result.

  2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I 
check

 this. Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler
 about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not. Have 
any
 reference information's source the explain the purpose and how to handle 
of

 its.

Start reading this:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/relnotes.html

bh
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Need your advise.

2005-06-22 Thread Nuttapon Tharachaikul

To Support,
I'm interest on BSD-OS.
Please advise me , I'm new to study Linux.
1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly.
But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used for what 
?

- CHECKSUM.MD5
2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can I check 
this.
Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can handler 
about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB or not ?
Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose and how 
to handle of its.


If I would like to order SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition, Users Guide 
Bundle from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand.

1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ?
2. How long for delivery ?
3. And Could you give me for discount ?


Best Regards,
Nuttapon Tharachaikul
Thailand.


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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-22 Thread Charles Swiger

On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:

1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly.
But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used  
for what ?

- CHECKSUM.MD5


If you run md5 (called md5sum sometimes) on the .iso file, it  
should match this checksum.  This confirms the CD image you created  
has not been tampered with.


2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can  
I check this.
Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can  
handler about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB  
or not ?


FreeBSD supports lots of flavors of RAID.  The x86 code has limited  
support for PAE (greater than 4GB of physical RAM) but a fair number  
of drivers are not safe to use in that mode.  If you plan on using  
more than 4GB of RAM in a box, go with a 64-bit platform like AMD64,  
or maybe SPARC or PPC.


I'm not sure what you mean by clustering since people seem to use  
that to describe a lot of things.


Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose  
and how to handle of its.


Hmm: parse error.

If I would like to order SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition,  
Users Guide Bundle from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand.

1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ?
2. How long for delivery ?
3. And Could you give me for discount ?


Ask FreeBSD-Mall directly.  They aren't the same as the people on  
this list, nor are they the same thing as the FreeBSD project itself.


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-Chuck

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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-22 Thread Nuttapon Tharachaikul

To Charles Swiger ,
 I'm apologize that may be occure many mails delivery to you, since my  
outlook may have problem.
 Please  advise me , I would like to know  that : Does BSD5.4 support 
High Availability Clustering same like RedHatAS3.0 ?  In term of the 
capability to handle share disk-storage to support redundancy of fail over 
single point of failure, that if one server fail then another one
can be promote to handle application service by share disk-storage in a 
middle.


Best Regards,
Nuttapon T.


From: Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nuttapon Tharachaikul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: Need your advise.
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:40:30 -0400

On Jun 22, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:

1. After I created installation-CDROM. It was burned completly.
But I have a question about the following files ,Does it used  for 
what ?

- CHECKSUM.MD5


If you run md5 (called md5sum sometimes) on the .iso file, it  should 
match this checksum.  This confirms the CD image you created  has not been 
tampered with.


2. I would like to know about the feature of BSD5.4 ,where can  I 
check this.
Please give me a shortly information that BSD5.4,i386, can  
handler about Clustering ,RAID and can support Physical Ram = 4 GB  or not 
?


FreeBSD supports lots of flavors of RAID.  The x86 code has limited  
support for PAE (greater than 4GB of physical RAM) but a fair number  of 
drivers are not safe to use in that mode.  If you plan on using  more than 
4GB of RAM in a box, go with a 64-bit platform like AMD64,  or maybe SPARC 
or PPC.


I'm not sure what you mean by clustering since people seem to use  that 
to describe a lot of things.


Have any reference information's source the explain the purpose  and 
how to handle of its.


Hmm: parse error.

If I would like to order SD 5.4 and Handbook, 3rd Edition,  Users 
Guide Bundle from FreeBSD-Mall and ship to Thailand.

1. How much ship-cost to delivery this media ?
2. How long for delivery ?
3. And Could you give me for discount ?


Ask FreeBSD-Mall directly.  They aren't the same as the people on  this 
list, nor are they the same thing as the FreeBSD project itself.


--
-Chuck




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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-22 Thread Charles Swiger

On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:
 Please  advise me , I would like to know  that : Does BSD5.4  
support High Availability Clustering same like RedHatAS3.0 ?  In  
term of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support  
redundancy of fail over single point of failure, that if one server  
fail then another one can be promote to handle application service  
by share disk-storage in a middle.


Hmm.  The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which  
handles NFS or Samba failover transparently.


--
-Chuck


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Re: Need your advise.

2005-06-22 Thread Nuttapon Tharachaikul

To Charles Swiger,
Thanksyou very much, for give me a clerity.
Without this feature,BSD still beautiful.
BestRegards,
Nuttapon T.


From: Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nuttapon Tharachaikul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: Need your advise.
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:39:42 -0400

On Jun 22, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Nuttapon Tharachaikul wrote:
 Please  advise me , I would like to know  that : Does BSD5.4  
support High Availability Clustering same like RedHatAS3.0 ?  In  term 
of the capability to handle share disk-storage to support  redundancy of 
fail over single point of failure, that if one server  fail then another 
one can be promote to handle application service  by share disk-storage in 
a middle.


Hmm.  The answer is probably no, FreeBSD doesn't have anything which  
handles NFS or Samba failover transparently.


--
-Chuck





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