Re: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-14 Thread Quintin Riis
See http://speecart.chg.ru/handbook/disks-bios-numbering.html

		Quintin

John Adams wrote:
On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 06:57 PM, fbsd_user wrote:

Try this command to mount the cd drive.
First load the 4.6 install cd in cd drive
mount /cdrom
cd /cdrom
ls
cd /
umount /cdrom


Success!

look at the  etc/fstab to see how cd drive is configured


DeviceMountpointFStypeOptionsDumpPass
/dev/acd0c/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00
Explain how you switch from booting winme to booting FBSD




I've yet to learn how to tell the bootloader to boot from the primary 
drive, so I just change the order of the drives in BIOS.
=

Verify floppy drive works in winme.


And there's the answer--I believe this drive is dead. I recall it making 
noises some time ago, and it must've gone over the edge. Fortunately, 
Atlanta has some good stores--I've been wanting to pop down to the one 
by Tech for a while now, and this is as good an excuse as any.

This brings me back to the modem question. I can type in the entries 
from ppp.conf and ppp.log--or I suppose I could try to learn to write to 
the FAT partition elsewhere on this drive, which I'm not unwilling to do 
(shouldn't be hard, which is what I thought about the modem.)

Advice? And thanks again,

John A

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Re: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew Boothman
John Adams wrote:
On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 09:59 PM, fbsd_user wrote:

It would be a whole lot more helpful if you posted your ppp.conf
and the ppp.log of your last test


I may have to type this in--I'm unable to mount the floppy drive, and 
MAKEDEV is telling me bad unit for disk in: fd* for each /dev/fd*. 
Should I consider this a second message to me saying, you have weird 
hardware, and give up? I'd rather not. Perhaps I have a different 
problem to work with first, getting the floppy mounted so I can write 
logs to it. Advice?
How are you trying to mount your floppy? mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt?

Explain how you know FBSD has found your modem and can connect to
it.


Perhaps it hasn't--the last thing in the ppp.log is:

ppp[116]: tun0 : Command: /dev/tty: set device cuaa0

That's from the interactive mode entry. From the auto mode entry, the 
last listing is:

ppp[116]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (auto mode)
This might be a silly question, but the modem is plugged into serial 
port 1 isn't it? Try using /dev/cuaa1? Are your serial ports probed 
correctly during boot? Look at dmesg|grep cuaa.

TBH, it's been a long time since I did PPP under FreeBSD. Broadband rules ;)

Andrew

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Re: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread John Adams
On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Boothman wrote:

How are you trying to mount your floppy? mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 
/mnt?
Well, I was just naively trying mount /dev/fd0 /mnt, but now I've tried 
it as you suggest, and again gotten Device not configured. This is 
also what fdformat gives me when I try to format the disk. I'm also 
unable so far to mount the CD drive.

 Are your serial ports probed correctly during boot? Look at 
dmesg|grep cuaa.
Now, that's interesting. I get results for sio, but nothing for cuaa or 
tty.

All the best,

	John A

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Re: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew Boothman
John Adams wrote:

On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Boothman wrote:

How are you trying to mount your floppy? mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt?


Well, I was just naively trying mount /dev/fd0 /mnt, but now I've tried 
it as you suggest, and again gotten Device not configured. This is 
also what fdformat gives me when I try to format the disk. I'm also 
unable so far to mount the CD drive.

 Are your serial ports probed correctly during boot? Look at 
dmesg|grep cuaa.


Now, that's interesting. I get results for sio, but nothing for cuaa or 
tty.
That's because serial ports _are_ probed as sios - sorry my mistake.

I presume you get sio lines for all of your serial ports? My original 
point still stands, are you sure you're using the right one for where 
your modem is plugged in?

Have you read through 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dialout.html ?

Andrew

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RE: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread fbsd_user
Why don't you start at the beginning and tell us about the PC you
installed 4.6 on?

Is this an pre Y2K box?

What operating system was on it before?

Have you ever used the floppy drive before?

Does the floppy ready light flash when you power up the PC and boot?

What command are you using to try to mount the cd drive?
You know the drive  works because you installed from it.

Have you checked the PC's bio's to verify that the com ports are
enabled and the floppy drive is enabled?

Is the modem powered up before you boot FBSD?

Have you used the modem before?

Can you prove it works on another system?

Does this command connect to your com port with the external modem?
Tip comx  where x is the com port number that has modem

If it connects enter  AT   for the hayes attention command. Should
reply with  OK

Use ~ the . keyboard keys to exit tip command.

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To: Andrew Boothman
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Subject: Re: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Boothman wrote:

 How are you trying to mount your floppy? mount -t msdos /dev/fd0
 /mnt?

Well, I was just naively trying mount /dev/fd0 /mnt, but now I've
tried
it as you suggest, and again gotten Device not configured. This is
also what fdformat gives me when I try to format the disk. I'm also
unable so far to mount the CD drive.

  Are your serial ports probed correctly during boot? Look at
 dmesg|grep cuaa.

Now, that's interesting. I get results for sio, but nothing for cuaa
or
tty.

All the best,

John A

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Fwd: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread John Adams
On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Andrew Boothman wrote:

I presume you get sio lines for all of your serial ports? My original 
point still stands, are you sure you're using the right one for where 
your modem is plugged in?
Yes, I'm pretty sure--I mistakenly used cuaa1 in my earliest attempts.

Have you read through 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dialout.html 
?
Yes, and the subsequent chapter on PPP, as well.

Thanks again,

	John A

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New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread John Adams
I love detailed questions!

On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 01:05 PM, fbsd_user wrote:

Why don't you start at the beginning and tell us about the PC you
installed 4.6 on?
It's an eMachines etower 600is

Is this an pre Y2K box?
Shouldn't be--I bought it new at Frye's in early 2001.

What operating system was on it before?
The primary drive has Windows ME on it. 4.6 is on the secondary drive.

Have you ever used the floppy drive before?
Yes.

Does the floppy ready light flash when you power up the PC and boot?
Good question--I'll check that next time I do so.

What command are you using to try to mount the cd drive?
mount /dev/cd* /mnt #No, I didn't use the *--but I tried all the 
/dev/cd* entries, one at a time, just as I did the /dev/fd* entries.

You know the drive  works because you installed from it.
Yes.

Have you checked the PC's bio's to verify that the com ports are
enabled and the floppy drive is enabled?
No--I'll do that next time through, too. However, see below for why I'm 
pretty sure the com ports (at least) are enabled.

Is the modem powered up before you boot FBSD?
Yes.

Have you used the modem before?
Yes.

Can you prove it works on another system?
It works on this one while running Windows ME--I tested that.

Does this command connect to your com port with the external modem?
Tip comx  where x is the com port number that has modem
If it connects enter  AT   for the hayes attention command. Should
reply with  OK
It replies connected and is now hung. I never got to enter AT.

Use ~ the . keyboard keys to exit tip command.
The keyboard is now unresponsive, both to the ~ commands (~. and ~?) 
and to Alt-F3ing to another logon window. Power cycling...

I did not see the floppy light--I had it disconnected while adding the 
secondary drive. I'll check that next time it's powered down. The 
floppy is enabled in BIOS. Serial port A is Auto, the floppy disk 
controlled is Enabled.

I'm going to leave it in BIOS setup while I do some things with my 
daughter--back in a bit.

Thanks!

	John A

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RE: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread fbsd_user
Try this command to mount the cd drive.
First load the 4.6 install cd in cd drive
mount /cdrom
cd /cdrom
ls
cd /
umount /cdrom

look at the  etc/fstab to see how cd drive is configured

Explain how you switch from booting winme to booting FBSD

Verify floppy drive works in winme.

If you have box open you may have pulled the ribbon lose from the
floppy drive.



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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:07 PM
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Subject: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

I love detailed questions!

On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 01:05 PM, fbsd_user wrote:

 Why don't you start at the beginning and tell us about the PC you
 installed 4.6 on?

It's an eMachines etower 600is

 Is this an pre Y2K box?

Shouldn't be--I bought it new at Frye's in early 2001.

 What operating system was on it before?

The primary drive has Windows ME on it. 4.6 is on the secondary
drive.

 Have you ever used the floppy drive before?

Yes.

 Does the floppy ready light flash when you power up the PC and
boot?

Good question--I'll check that next time I do so.

 What command are you using to try to mount the cd drive?

mount /dev/cd* /mnt #No, I didn't use the *--but I tried all the
/dev/cd* entries, one at a time, just as I did the /dev/fd* entries.

 You know the drive  works because you installed from it.

Yes.

 Have you checked the PC's bio's to verify that the com ports are
 enabled and the floppy drive is enabled?

No--I'll do that next time through, too. However, see below for why
I'm
pretty sure the com ports (at least) are enabled.

 Is the modem powered up before you boot FBSD?

Yes.

 Have you used the modem before?

Yes.

 Can you prove it works on another system?

It works on this one while running Windows ME--I tested that.

 Does this command connect to your com port with the external
modem?
 Tip comx  where x is the com port number that has modem

 If it connects enter  AT   for the hayes attention command. Should
 reply with  OK

It replies connected and is now hung. I never got to enter AT.

 Use ~ the . keyboard keys to exit tip command.

The keyboard is now unresponsive, both to the ~ commands (~. and ~?)
and to Alt-F3ing to another logon window. Power cycling...

I did not see the floppy light--I had it disconnected while adding
the
secondary drive. I'll check that next time it's powered down. The
floppy is enabled in BIOS. Serial port A is Auto, the floppy disk
controlled is Enabled.

I'm going to leave it in BIOS setup while I do some things with my
daughter--back in a bit.

Thanks!

John A

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Re: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-13 Thread John Adams
On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 06:57 PM, fbsd_user wrote:

Try this command to mount the cd drive.
First load the 4.6 install cd in cd drive
mount /cdrom
cd /cdrom
ls
cd /
umount /cdrom
Success!

look at the  etc/fstab to see how cd drive is configured
Device  Mountpoint  FStype  Options DumpPass
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
Explain how you switch from booting winme to booting FBSD
I've yet to learn how to tell the bootloader to boot from the primary 
drive, so I just change the order of the drives in BIOS.

Verify floppy drive works in winme.
And there's the answer--I believe this drive is dead. I recall it 
making noises some time ago, and it must've gone over the edge. 
Fortunately, Atlanta has some good stores--I've been wanting to pop 
down to the one by Tech for a while now, and this is as good an excuse 
as any.

This brings me back to the modem question. I can type in the entries 
from ppp.conf and ppp.log--or I suppose I could try to learn to write 
to the FAT partition elsewhere on this drive, which I'm not unwilling 
to do (shouldn't be hard, which is what I thought about the modem.)

Advice? And thanks again,

	John A

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New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-12 Thread John Adams
Hi, folks,

	I've got a brand-new installation of FreeBSD and the next thing I want 
to do is upgrade from 4.6 (the CD I had) to 4.9 or 5.1. However, first 
I need to dial out, and there I'm having a problem.

	I've followed the instructions (I hope!) in Chapter 18 of the 
handbook, and whatever approach I take to dialing out, the box hangs--I 
can't even Alt-F3 to a new shell. This happens whether I'm using cu or 
trying a manual connection in ppp. When I do the latter, after I type 
term, I get the responses, but, after type '~?' for help, the keyboard 
stops responding. ~. doesn't get me out of it--nothing does. The box is 
an eMachines etower 600is and the modem is a Microcom Deskporte 28.8P.

	Any help would be greatly appreciated.

All the best,

	John A

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RE: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

2004-01-12 Thread fbsd_user
It would be a whole lot more helpful if you posted your ppp.conf
and the ppp.log of your last test

Explain how you know FBSD has found your modem and can connect to
it.

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Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New installation: Hanging when trying to dial out

Hi, folks,

I've got a brand-new installation of FreeBSD and the next
thing I want
to do is upgrade from 4.6 (the CD I had) to 4.9 or 5.1. However,
first
I need to dial out, and there I'm having a problem.

I've followed the instructions (I hope!) in Chapter 18 of
the
handbook, and whatever approach I take to dialing out, the box
hangs--I
can't even Alt-F3 to a new shell. This happens whether I'm using cu
or
trying a manual connection in ppp. When I do the latter, after I
type
term, I get the responses, but, after type '~?' for help, the
keyboard
stops responding. ~. doesn't get me out of it--nothing does. The box
is
an eMachines etower 600is and the modem is a Microcom Deskporte
28.8P.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

All the best,

John A

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