OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?
Hello, Short version --- Does anyone know to what email address at Sun I should send my questions regarding the Diablo FreeBSD JRE? Longer version --- Any help would be MUCH appreciated. I have some questions regarding the OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD. I initially sent my email inquiry to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as stated in the FreeBSD Foundation Java Download page (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but that [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address does not appear to be valid -- the email I sent to that address bounced. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address is specifically called out in Diablo FreeBSD OEM Java license that is listed here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/cgi-bin/download?download=oem/diablo-jdk-freebsd5.i386.1.5.0.07.01.tbz That license text states we (a) must obtain a Trademark License from Sun, and depending on the exact field of use, we (b) might need to get a commercial license from Sun. That license text directs me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get more information for both (a) and (b). That email address doesn't work, so now I'm wondering what to do next... I called Sun Sales, but they did not know what I was talking about... Best regards, PJ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?
On 25/10/2007 2:41 PM, Pj Malloy wrote: Any help would be MUCH appreciated. I have some questions regarding the OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD. I initially sent my email inquiry to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as stated in the FreeBSD Foundation Java Download page (http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml), but that [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address does not appear to be valid -- the email I sent to that address bounced. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address is specifically called out in Diablo FreeBSD OEM Java license that is listed here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/cgi-bin/download?download=oem/diablo-jdk-freebsd5.i386.1.5.0.07.01.tbz That license text states we (a) must obtain a Trademark License from Sun, and depending on the exact field of use, we (b) might need to get a commercial license from Sun. That license text directs me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get more information for both (a) and (b). That email address doesn't work, so now I'm wondering what to do next... I called Sun Sales, but they did not know what I was talking about... I too would love to know the answer to this -- the way Sun carry on, anyone would think they don't want people using their language... I am sure Microsoft don't make you jump through hoops if you want to write and distribute applications written in .NET and want to distribute the run-time along with it -- so why must Sun make it so hard for people to do that with Java? --Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?
> > I too would love to know the answer to this -- the way Sun carry on, > anyone would think they don't want people using their language... I am > sure Microsoft don't make you jump through hoops if you want to write > and distribute applications written in .NET and want to distribute the > run-time along with it -- so why must Sun make it so hard for people > to do that with Java? At times if I didn't know better I would swear that sun was doing it's best to destroy it's own language (long term tax write off?)... even though I love Java and started a small software company to make developer tools for it some of the things Sun drive me *(&*&(*&( nuts... Here is the short list: 1. Complete refusal to allow for non-JVM compilation targets 2. Deprecating classes and methods for no apparent reason or explanation 3. Not making the complete implementation "open" (perhaps look but don't touch or give out) source 4. Making some really stupid security and/or low level OS access assumptions (see the series of threads recursively started by http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/8e85eedca489d240/3ef23e684fe42fb0#3ef23e684fe42fb0) 5. Completely dropping the ball marketing wise -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems Developer, not Business, Friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: OEM and Trademark license for Java on FreeBSD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] no longer valid?
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:54:34 -0400 "Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I too would love to know the answer to this -- the way Sun carry on, > > anyone would think they don't want people using their language... I > > am sure Microsoft don't make you jump through hoops if you want to > > write and distribute applications written in .NET and want to > > distribute the run-time along with it -- so why must Sun make it so > > hard for people to do that with Java? > > At times if I didn't know better I would swear that sun was doing it's > best to destroy it's own language (long term tax write off?)... even > though I love Java and started a small software company to make > developer tools for it some of the things Sun drive me > *(&*&(*&( nuts... Here is the short list: Well, I gave up on Java and switched to a combination of Python and C/C++ for many reasons, most of them pertaining to Java, the language itself and its libraries. Licensing issues and all those hoops Sun made and still makes us FreeBSD users jump through were the least of my concerns, because they were essentially one-time only and though annoying, still bearable. The problem, or opportunity, is that there's so much legacy code in Java, just waiting to be ported, and though SWIG has its uses in the transition process, ultimately java2python (not jython, that's the other way around) would be great, but it's not there yet by any means... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
