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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:41:22 -0500 Andy Recker articulated: > stop You didn't say, "Simon says." -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ The three best things about going to school are June, July, and August. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:31:43 -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Monday 04 June 2012 11:12:01 Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download > > > videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the > > > internet", where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you > > > should's watch it. > > > > Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media > > player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff, > > brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have > > dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited > > means of user friendlyness. > > Flashblocker and downloadhelper plugins for FF. Work like a charm !! Yes, but may require too much interactivity. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Monday 04 June 2012 11:12:01 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download > > videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the > > internet", where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you > > should's watch it. > > Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media > player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff, > brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have > dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited > means of user friendlyness. Flashblocker and downloadhelper plugins for FF. Work like a charm !! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:54:37 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download videos > to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the internet", > where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you should's watch > it. Additionally, it allows the user to use his favourite media player (e. g. mplayer) with all its support (still, rew, ff, brightness/contrast adjust, keyboard support) except to have dealing with it in a web browser window with its very limited means of user friendlyness. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:27:31 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >>For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash > > > and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) > > to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't > > use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) > > Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access > without Adobe Flash. Those aren't web sites, those are "Flash" sites. :-) With the upcoming decline and fall of "Flash" in mind, one should not have to worry too much. When HTML 5 gets finally adopted (including its audio, video and interactivity features), which is essential to gain acccess to the growing mobile markets, "Flash" will just be an unpleasant memory, just like "Java on the web". :-) > Adobe may discontinue Linux version of Flash plugin except > when bundled with Chrome browser. There are alternatives that seem to work well enough (e. g. gnash). > Some web sites use Flash just to be annoying, not to create a video. Yes, "Flash" has taken the place that formerly has been occupied by animated GIFs, except now sound and forced interactivity, as well as slowness and bloat, have been successfully added. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Wojciech Puchar writes: > > Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access > > without Adobe Flash. > > true. but this is actually great filter that save your time. such > sites doesn't have any real contents. Ahem - no site _you_ have need of is Flash-only. Do not presume to speak for other users. (Though I agree - Flash-only is usually a bad sign,) Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access without Adobe Flash. true. but this is actually great filter that save your time. such sites doesn't have any real contents. Adobe may discontinue Linux version of Flash plugin except when bundled with Chrome browser. I personally would like to see HTML 5 wipe Adobe Flash off the face of the earth. true. Gnash is great on YouTube but seems to work nowhere else. i rarely run gnash. youtube is not a problem, use youtube-dl from ports and do download videos to disk drive, then watch instead of having movies "in the internet", where they can disappear everytime youtube decide that you should's watch it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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>>For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash > and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) > to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't > use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) Some, too many, web sites are difficult or impossible to access without Adobe Flash. Adobe may discontinue Linux version of Flash plugin except when bundled with Chrome browser. I personally would like to see HTML 5 wipe Adobe Flash off the face of the earth. Some web sites use Flash just to be annoying, not to create a video. Examples are: freefilefillableforms.com : I was unable to proceed with income tax return for e-file. shoplocal.com : When advertiser/vendor offers a choice between Flash (broadband) and HTML (dialup), HTML (non-Flash) works better even on broadband. www.gagels.com (farm market), last time I looked was maybe a month ago, and I remember complaining. laguanajuatoky.com : crashes (Mozilla) Seamonkey browser when running in FreeBSD. Gnash is great on YouTube but seems to work nowhere else. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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I suppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have FreeBSD 8.2_RELEASE i386 on an old computer, pinched for disk space and only 256 MB RAM, won't try upgrading in place. On the new computer, after not being able to boot NetBSD most of the time and never getting to a graphical interface, FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 was released, and I downloaded and installed that: a dream compared to NetBSD which didn't really like the new hardware. I used NetBSD after using linux and before FreeBSD. Since v 1.6 and definitely since 2.0 NetBSD turned into bloatware, as well as crashware and slowware. Exactly as i predicted when new company were created and started "sponsoring" NetBSD too much. It is useless now. FreeBSD fortunately doesn't go that route, every new release is actually better, and bloatware required to get enough sponsoring is clearly separated from the real part, having no effect on base system if you don't use it. I never used the old computer as a server. i do. Old computers for small scale server (small office, few users), New for larger. For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) and other multimedia functionality, nor do you need a lot of RAM. depends what you run. Add spamassassin, clamav, squid and 512MB is quite a minimum, 256MB bearable with max few users and quita a bit of paging. Anything NEW, like cheapest dell poweredge server you can buy, is enough for even large office unless you do stupid things, or use virtualbox heavily. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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> Well, I still see complains about a few quirks in 9 here in the list, > specially after certain src updates. > Re:Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148 > Re: kern/168190: [pf] panic when using pf and route-to (maybe: bad fragment > handling?) > Re: ULE/sched issues on stable/9 - why isn't preemption occurring? > Etc .. > To me, something like pf (specially route-to!) is critical and for the moment, > I wouldn't touch my rock-solid-down-to-the-micro-second perfect production > firewall 8-STABLE server for nothing, if the aim is such a role. > I think that distribution set size is just not a very strong argument. > OTOH, if the aim is just experimenting, that's another story. > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ I suppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I have FreeBSD 8.2_RELEASE i386 on an old computer, pinched for disk space and only 256 MB RAM, won't try upgrading in place. On the new computer, after not being able to boot NetBSD most of the time and never getting to a graphical interface, FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 was released, and I downloaded and installed that: a dream compared to NetBSD which didn't really like the new hardware. I never used the old computer as a server. For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash and other multimedia functionality, nor do you need a lot of RAM. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Friday 01 June 2012 03:29:40 Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I ddon't see any advantage in FreeBSD 8.x or earlier. Well, I still see complains about a few quirks in 9 here in the list, specially after certain src updates. Re:Use of C99 extra long double math functions after r236148 Re: kern/168190: [pf] panic when using pf and route-to (maybe: bad fragment handling?) Re: ULE/sched issues on stable/9 - why isn't preemption occurring? Etc .. To me, something like pf (specially route-to!) is critical and for the moment, I wouldn't touch my rock-solid-down-to-the-micro-second perfect production firewall 8-STABLE server for nothing, if the aim is such a role. I think that distribution set size is just not a very strong argument. OTOH, if the aim is just experimenting, that's another story. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 29 May 2012 20:06, wrote: > > Hello, > I am moving away from MS products due to security a nd stability > concerns. Below are the machines I use and would like to know which > version of FreeBSD will work best with each. The computer s are used > at home and away, for e-mail, preparing documents, databases, an d > spredsheets, as well as, web browsing and some begining programing > (Perl, C, HTML, and Assembely I think). I don't know much about the specifics but for a desktop computer I would go with either FreeBSD 9 or PC-BSD (perhaps with the intel kms patch) -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:56 PM, hasanhasanli Hasan wrote: > I bought server HP ProLiant BL460c G7. I couldn't find Ethernet driver > for the FreeBSD. > > Does anyone know where can I get driver for my OpenBSD(or freeBSD) server ? > > Best regards > Shahin Hasanov > > Which version of FreeBSD did you install? What is the output of the command `ifconfig` ? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Glen, You have to download the ISO and either burn it to a CD or use a USB key. Google "how to burn ISO" The handbook can walk you through the installation. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html Good luck and welcome to FreeBSD. Aaron On 5:25:57PM, Glen Davenport wrote: > My name is Glen Davenport. I am trying to download freebsd but haven't a > clue as to how the FTP function works.When I go to download I am given a > directory listing. Needless to say, I have never downloaded anything for > UNIX/LIINUX. Can you help? > My e-mail address is gdd80...@gmail.com. Thanks. > Glen Davenport > GDD > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions X-Editor: Vim-703 http://www.vim.org > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" pgp1mjJ47heLu.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 04:43:03AM +0200, Rares Aioanei wrote: > On 01/11/2012 02:25 AM, Glen Davenport wrote: > >My name is Glen Davenport. I am trying to download freebsd but haven't a > >clue as to how the FTP function works.When I go to download I am given a > >directory listing. Needless to say, I have never downloaded anything for > >UNIX/LIINUX. Can you help? > > > >My e-mail address is gdd80...@gmail.com. Thanks. > > > >Glen Davenport > >GDD > > > Hi Glen, > > Assuming you have a 32-bit PC, here's the link to the disc image you need: > http://ftp.dk.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.2/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > > . > Burn it on a CD as image, not directly, then boot from CD and, with the > help of the excellent > Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/) > you will have > a shiny BSD system installed. Feel free to ask if you get stuck, but > it's [...] *HIGHLY* ;-) >recommended you take > a look at the Handbook first. > > Best, > > -- > Rares Aioanei KDK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 01/11/2012 02:25 AM, Glen Davenport wrote: My name is Glen Davenport. I am trying to download freebsd but haven't a clue as to how the FTP function works.When I go to download I am given a directory listing. Needless to say, I have never downloaded anything for UNIX/LIINUX. Can you help? My e-mail address is gdd80...@gmail.com. Thanks. Glen Davenport GDD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Hi Glen, Assuming you have a 32-bit PC, here's the link to the disc image you need: http://ftp.dk.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.2/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso . Burn it on a CD as image, not directly, then boot from CD and, with the help of the excellent Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/) you will have a shiny BSD system installed. Feel free to ask if you get stuck, but it's recommended you take a look at the Handbook first. Best, -- Rares Aioanei ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Mike Hix wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Selim wrote: > > > Am 07.09.2011 21:56, schrieb Mike Hix: > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Selim wrote: > > > >> Am 07.09.2011 21:28, schrieb Mike Hix: > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Selim wrote: > >> > >>> hey > >>> could you please include broadcom bcm4313 drivers to freebsd9.0 > >>> i cant use freebsd just because of that driver.. > >>> ___ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >>> > >> > >> hey > >> could you have a look at the man pages for bwn and bwi... > >> > >> -- > >> Mike Hix > >> > >> bwn and bwi have no support for bcm43*13* > >> > > > > At least you read them. :) > > > > Just in case you've got the bcm43xx number incorrect, what happens when > you > > load the bwn or bwi module and it's dependencies? > > > > -- > > Mike Hix > > > > i dont want to waste dvds (maybe sounds like its not important for me > but > > thats the only reason i cannot use freebsd) it also did not work with the > > linux drivers supporting other cards except 4313 so i dont think that > this > > will work with freebsd but maybe ill try this with a usb image then.. so > > could you tell me if there will be support for this card in fbsd9.0? or > is > > there already support in beta release? > > > > Unfortunately I cannot answer your question about future support for that > chipset. > > -- > Mike Hix > Perhaps you could burn FreeBSD9 BETA2 on a RW media and try it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 09/07/11 21:28, Mike Hix wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Selim wrote: hey could you please include broadcom bcm4313 drivers to freebsd9.0 i cant use freebsd just because of that driver.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" hey could you have a look at the man pages for bwn and bwi... When Adriane have time, he will work on it. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-wireless/2011-August/000448.html I don't know, if he had worked on it. Sorry for my english :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Selim wrote: > Am 07.09.2011 21:56, schrieb Mike Hix: > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Selim wrote: > >> Am 07.09.2011 21:28, schrieb Mike Hix: >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Selim wrote: >> >>> hey >>> could you please include broadcom bcm4313 drivers to freebsd9.0 >>> i cant use freebsd just because of that driver.. >>> ___ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> hey >> could you have a look at the man pages for bwn and bwi... >> >> -- >> Mike Hix >> >> bwn and bwi have no support for bcm43*13* >> > > At least you read them. :) > > Just in case you've got the bcm43xx number incorrect, what happens when you > load the bwn or bwi module and it's dependencies? > > -- > Mike Hix > > i dont want to waste dvds (maybe sounds like its not important for me but > thats the only reason i cannot use freebsd) it also did not work with the > linux drivers supporting other cards except 4313 so i dont think that this > will work with freebsd but maybe ill try this with a usb image then.. so > could you tell me if there will be support for this card in fbsd9.0? or is > there already support in beta release? > Unfortunately I cannot answer your question about future support for that chipset. -- Mike Hix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Selim wrote: > Am 07.09.2011 21:28, schrieb Mike Hix: > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Selim wrote: > >> hey >> could you please include broadcom bcm4313 drivers to freebsd9.0 >> i cant use freebsd just because of that driver.. >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> > > hey > could you have a look at the man pages for bwn and bwi... > > -- > Mike Hix > > bwn and bwi have no support for bcm43*13* > At least you read them. :) Just in case you've got the bcm43xx number incorrect, what happens when you load the bwn or bwi module and it's dependencies? -- Mike Hix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Selim wrote: > hey > could you please include broadcom bcm4313 drivers to freebsd9.0 > i cant use freebsd just because of that driver.. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > hey could you have a look at the man pages for bwn and bwi... -- Mike Hix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Le Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:26:24 +, Johan Hendriks a écrit : > Ifconfig on the master > carp0: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.50.45 netmask 0xff00 > nd6 options=29 > carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 30 > > Ifconfig on the slave > carp0: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.50.45 netmask 0xff00 > nd6 options=29 > carp: BACKUP vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 20 > > So even with the higher advskew value the master stays master. > > Am i doing something wrong. May be the difference is not big enough. Did you try with a greater advskew value ? advskew is added to the advbase with a advskew/256 (see man carp(4)). Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Please don't cross-post between several different mailing lists. On 12/08/2011 04:07, hasanhasanli Hasan wrote: > Could you tell which one version of FreeBsd I can installed driver > PVR 250/350 and tell how can I install it. It is possible send > version of FreeBSD and port of the pvr250. There's support for the Hauppage WinTV 250/350 available in ports, but... http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2011-June/012235.html Any recent version of FreeBSD should do -- unless you have a good reason to do otherwise, I'd try FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE in the first instance. As for how to get and install FreeBSD, the Handbook is your friend: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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"Those who think they know it all are really annoying to those of us who do." > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:04:52 +0200 > From: Lokadamus > > Your folder tmp is an own partition with just 1GB size. FALSE TO FACT. You can run df(1), giving it _any_ fileneme -- whether OR NOT it is a directory -- and it will report the statistics for the underlying filesystem. Proof: %df -H /COPYRIGHT Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/idad0s1a 65M 35M 24M59%/ %ls -l /COPYRIGHT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6197 May 1 2009 COPYRIGHT For this user, /tmp is part of the / filesystem, as is CLEARLY shown by the 'Mounted on' field in the df output, below. The filesystem on 'ard0s1a', =mounted=as='/'=, _is_ roughly 1 gig in size. The filesystem "overhead" -- primarily the space reserved for (assuming a UFS filesystem) the FIXED SIZE (and pre-allocated) 'inode table', the 'backup superblocks', and the cylinder-group metadata -- accounts for the filesysem 'size' of 989M. Of that 989M, 8% has been set 'reserved' for superuser-only use. Programs running, with the EUID of 0 (the superuser), were creating the problematic /tmp files, thus the negative 'Avail' number, and the 'used' space being shown as over 100% in the 'Capacity' column. > Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 849M /tmp > Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M-76M 108% / > > When a partition is over 100% its use backup place for defect sektors. A > partition is/was created with 110% and 10% are for defect sectors. FALSE TO FACT. When 'spare' sectors are allocated for potential defective sector substitution, they are _not_ included in the available space/capacity of a filesystem. With most _modern_ disks, bad-sector substitution is handled by the _disk_hardware_itself_, *invisibly* to the host computer hardware, *or* operating system. *IF* spare sectors are allocated the O/S for bad-sector management, this is done by the 'low level format' utiltity, before any sort of filesystem, _if_any_, is created. i.e. there =will= be spares, for bad-sector substitution, even on the portion of a disk used as a 'swap' partition, despite there being no filesystem there. The 'reserved' space, "traditionally" the last 10% -- although in this case of the OP's drive it was _8%_ -- of the filesystem capacity, is set for the _exclusive use_ of the superuser, for regular filesystem activity (to wit, writing files to it). The reasn for this 'reserved space' is so that a 'regular user' with runaway disk usage, will _not_ be able to cause _system_ processes to fail for lack of disk space. In the OP's case, it _was_ a' superuser process' that was writeing to /tmp, so that process failed _only_ when the space on the filesystem was _TOTALLY_ exhausted, instead of when usage reached '100%' of the file system space available to 'regular users'. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Lokadamus wrote: > Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 849M /tmp > Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% / > > When a partition is over 100% its use backup place for defect sektors. A > partition is/ was created with 110% and 10% are for defect sectors. > A partition should not grow over 100%. While hard drives do contain spare sectors used to replacing defective ones, that's not what the 110% or 108% filesystem space is for-- this spare capacity is used by FFS to reduce fragmentation, but can also be written to by root at the cost of considerable performance. See "man tunefs". Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Your folder tmp is an own partition with just 1GB size.
This partition is running full.
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
When a partition is over 100% its use backup place for defect sektors. A
partition is/ was created with 110% and 10% are for defect sectors.
A partition should not grow over 100%.
Am 20.06.2011 12:25, schrieb Traiano Welcome:
Hi Damien
(apologies for top-posting, handicapped mail client).
Actually, "/" (by /tmp) is filling up, and clearing very rapidly due to temp
files being created and removed at high speed. We ca only see this
by doing:
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
while(1){
$timestamp = localtime();
system("echo $timestamp `df -h /tmp`>> /home/traianow/dfstats.txt");
system("echo $timestamp `du -sh /tmp`>> /home/traianow/dfstats.txt");
sleep 1;
}
---
We're seeing this fast-changing disk space usage patterns like this, repeating
every few tens of seconds:
Mon Jun 20 11:41:54 2011 844M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:55 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:55 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:56 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:56 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:57 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:57 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:02 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 141M 769M 15% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:02 2011 3.2M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:03 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 142M 768M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:03 2011 4.8M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:04 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 145M 765M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:04 2011 7.7M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:06 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 148M 762M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:06 2011 10M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:07 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 150M 760M 16% /
What I'm trying to determine is what caused the change in temp file writing
behaviour on the server, and if this is the kind behaviour likely on a heavily
loaded box with cpu running at 100% (which this system is). i.e, do processes
like cvs that write tmp files suddenly start writing more temp files when
starved for cpu, leading to this kind of behaviour?
Thanks,
Traiano
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Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: (no subject)
On 6/20/11 10:13 AM, Traiano Welcome wrote:
Hi List
We have a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0 server running as a general unix shell server.
Recently the system has been running at high load (average 8, and cpu 100%),
and even more recently we've started seeing the following types of error when
we do cvs commits on the system. The system has between 150 to 200 users on it
during the day.
---
"/: write failed, filesystem is full"
Error: /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: No space left on device;
/tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: WARNING: FILE TRUNCATED
---
The disks are definitely not full (this shows up in df -hi), both in terms of storage
space and inode utilisation. However the cpu utilisation is permanently at 100%, and
we're aware of which processes are causing the utilisation. My question is: Is it
possible, under some circumstances that cpu starvation could result in the type of
"filesystem is full" errors we're seeing above?
Thanks in Advance,
Traiano Welcome
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1/ sync
2/ df -h
3/ df -i
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Hi Damien
(apologies for top-posting, handicapped mail client).
Actually, "/" (by /tmp) is filling up, and clearing very rapidly due to temp
files being created and removed at high speed. We ca only see this
by doing:
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
while(1){
$timestamp = localtime();
system("echo $timestamp `df -h /tmp` >> /home/traianow/dfstats.txt");
system("echo $timestamp `du -sh /tmp` >> /home/traianow/dfstats.txt");
sleep 1;
}
---
We're seeing this fast-changing disk space usage patterns like this, repeating
every few tens of seconds:
Mon Jun 20 11:41:54 2011 844M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:55 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:55 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:56 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:56 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:57 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:57 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:41:58 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 987M -76M 108% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:01 2011 849M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:02 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 141M 769M 15% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:02 2011 3.2M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:03 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 142M 768M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:03 2011 4.8M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:04 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 145M 765M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:04 2011 7.7M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:06 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 148M 762M 16% /
Mon Jun 20 11:42:06 2011 10M /tmp
Mon Jun 20 11:42:07 2011 Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 989M 150M 760M 16% /
What I'm trying to determine is what caused the change in temp file writing
behaviour on the server, and if this is the kind behaviour likely on a heavily
loaded box with cpu running at 100% (which this system is). i.e, do processes
like cvs that write tmp files suddenly start writing more temp files when
starved for cpu, leading to this kind of behaviour?
Thanks,
Traiano
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org]
on behalf of Damien Fleuriot [m...@my.gd]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:01 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: (no subject)
On 6/20/11 10:13 AM, Traiano Welcome wrote:
> Hi List
>
> We have a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0 server running as a general unix shell
> server. Recently the system has been running at high load (average 8, and cpu
> 100%), and even more recently we've started seeing the following types of
> error when we do cvs commits on the system. The system has between 150 to 200
> users on it during the day.
>
> ---
> "/: write failed, filesystem is full"
> Error: /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: No space left on device;
> /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: WARNING: FILE TRUNCATED
> ---
>
> The disks are definitely not full (this shows up in df -hi), both in terms of
> storage space and inode utilisation. However the cpu utilisation is
> permanently at 100%, and we're aware of which processes are causing the
> utilisation. My question is: Is it possible, under some circumstances that
> cpu starvation could result in the type of "filesystem is full" errors we're
> seeing above?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Traiano Welcome
>
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Are you really sure your file system is not full ?
1/ sync
2/ df -h
3/ df -i
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On 6/20/11 10:13 AM, Traiano Welcome wrote: > Hi List > > We have a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0 server running as a general unix shell > server. Recently the system has been running at high load (average 8, and cpu > 100%), and even more recently we've started seeing the following types of > error when we do cvs commits on the system. The system has between 150 to 200 > users on it during the day. > > --- > "/: write failed, filesystem is full" > Error: /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: No space left on device; > /tmp/file.commit.72971.tmp: WARNING: FILE TRUNCATED > --- > > The disks are definitely not full (this shows up in df -hi), both in terms of > storage space and inode utilisation. However the cpu utilisation is > permanently at 100%, and we're aware of which processes are causing the > utilisation. My question is: Is it possible, under some circumstances that > cpu starvation could result in the type of "filesystem is full" errors we're > seeing above? > > Thanks in Advance, > Traiano Welcome > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Are you really sure your file system is not full ? 1/ sync 2/ df -h 3/ df -i ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? > > I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be > answered by a 4487 × 29437 diagram, which can be found in several formats > here: > > http://www.unix-diagram.org/ or this one: http://www.levenez.com/unix/ -- Devin > > Terje > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be answered by a 4487 × 29437 diagram, which can be found in several formats here: http://www.unix-diagram.org/ Terje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On 10.03.2011 18:38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? No. OpenBSD uses the OpenBSD kernel. //Svein -- +---+--- /"\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:42:17 +0300, hasanhasanli Hasan wrote: > I have FreeBSD 7.3. How recover was deleted files in FreeBSD? Help me Due to the nature of the UFS file system, please note that recovering deleted files may be a VERY complicated process, and there is no way to totally make sure it will be successful. Having such a problem myself (accidentally deleted a whole subtree with video files), I would suggest you try the famous "The Sleuth Kit" from ports (sysutils/sleuthkit). After installing it, you'll find useful information in /usr/local/share/doc/sleuthkit/ref_fs.txt which contains a kind of recipe on how to recover files. It describes in detail what you can try. In any case, do NOT continue using the disk in question, the risk that files to be recovered getting overwritten is present. Make a copy of the partition in question (using dd) and work with the copy only. The recoverdisk program (/sbin/recoverdisk) comes with the base system and should also be mentioned. There are also commercial products (that often offer a free trial version) that allow such kind of recovery. Maybe you can try "File Restore Professional" and later on purchase it (demo version at www.pcrecovery.com available). Good luck! PS. Please use a *descriptive* subject line when posting to this list. This makes sure your message isn't overlooked or misidentified as spam. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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wayne mitchell wrote: > i would like to get a hold of the 8.1 CURRENT 'distfiles' ... > is there a source that makes dvd images of the distfile directory http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=CustomDisc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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A few hrs each day for 50 days? What kind of internet connection do you have?
If you can't find other options I'll get you what you need for "a few bucks",
just enough to cover postage and what not.
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Subject: (no subject)
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }hey
i am trying to set up a private network for using freebsd (private
as in off-line)
i have a windows machine with on-line connection
i would like to get a hold of the 8.1 CURRENT 'distfiles' (complete
- at least with latest versions only of each port/file)
however, when making calculations for downloading the complete
distfiles directory via anonymous ftp it works out to be a 50 day
operation (a few hours each day)
of course there are many earlier version files that may not be
required - in some cases in multiples of tens - which adds up
is there a source that makes dvd images of the distfile directory
that i can get a hold of
if so , please give details - happy to pay a few bucks
...
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On Friday 17 September 2010 17:45:40 Modulok wrote: > >> I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. > >> Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three > >> PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that > >> will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just > >> something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then > >> I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using > >> something worth a recommendation? > > > >There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE > >connector > > and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug. > > This is news to me. I now have two on the way :) > > Thank you! > -Modulok- You're welcome ! Let me know if you need any info on the one I have. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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>> I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. >> Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three >> PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that >> will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just >> something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then >> I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using >> something worth a recommendation? >There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE connector and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug. This is news to me. I now have two on the way :) Thank you! -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Thursday 16 September 2010 04:18:07 Modulok wrote: > List, > > I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. > Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three > PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that > will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just > something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then > I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using > something worth a recommendation? > > Thanks! > -Modulok- > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" There are IDE to SATA converters. You plug it directly into the IDE connector and on the other end you have a SATA150 plug. I've been using one here on my home server for about 1,5 years without any problem. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winfoes FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:36 +0200 > claudiu vasadi wrote: > >> what s-ata1 controller would you recommend in this case ? > > I don't know, I've just heard that the Sil adapters have a bad > reputation, including for data corruption. Things may have improved in > the 5 years since though. I can chime in here -- I've gone through two SiI 3114s (Rosewill RC-209s). Fortunately for me, the system wasn't critical and the cards failed at reboots -- and I had spares :) The upside is, if you're using ZFS, data corruption may not be an issue. Also, did we mention that the cards are CHEAP? Like, bottled water cheap. On the other hand, I've read of "higher end" Rosewill (presumably also SiI) cards performing admirably, and for extended periods. Luck of the draw, I suppose... 2 cents, Brandon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:23:36 +0200 claudiu vasadi wrote: > what s-ata1 controller would you recommend in this case ? I don't know, I've just heard that the Sil adapters have a bad reputation, including for data corruption. Things may have improved in the 5 years since though. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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perhaps, but I reached speeds of up to 51MB constant write with it. what s-ata1 controller would you recommend in this case ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:57:07 +0200 claudiu vasadi wrote: > Can you elaborate on that pls ? Silicon Image controllers have a bad reputation - see http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2004-03/0955.html and http://osdir.com/ml/os.freebsd.devel.hardware/2005-10/msg00048.html for example. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Bruce, Can you elaborate on that pls ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:18:07 -0600 Modulok wrote: > I have an old box I want to turn into a file server backup machine. > Unfortunately, the mainboard has only PATA headers. I do have three > PCI slots though, so I was looking at a PCI SATA controller card that > will get along with FreeBSD without a fuss. Nothing fancy, just > something inexpensive that I can plug a few SATA drives into. Then > I'll create a graid3 with them, or mess around with ZFS. Anyone using > something worth a recommendation? The only recommendation I have is not to get a Silicon Image (Sil) based card - they're cheap but don't work well. -- Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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I have SiI 3512 SATA150 controller and it works ok ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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doug schmidt wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Lars Hartmann wrote: Hi, i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) Google is your friend: http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ next time, do that yourself. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freebsd+8.0+install+with+usb+stick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" If you mean a bootable usb image that you can use to install FreeBSD to your machine here are some things that might interest you: You can get a usb stick installation image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.0/8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img but you'll probably need to do some reading in the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ PCBSD is a ready to go desktop configuration of FreeBSD, you can download a USB complete install from http://www.pcbsd.org/content/view/152/11/ There are also some threads about running FreeBSD on the aspire one, eg http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=449 regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Lars Hartmann wrote: > Hi, >> i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has >> no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use >> version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? >> (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) > Google is your friend: > http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ > > next time, do that yourself. > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freebsd+8.0+install+with+usb+stick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi, > i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has > no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use > version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? > (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) Google is your friend: http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ next time, do that yourself. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Should not be any problem and should show up as rl0 On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Erik Hildrum Saltveit < erik.hildrum.saltv...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question about a ethernet card is supported or not in freebsd? > 32-bit PCI,Realtek RTL8169S > > http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=120787 > > > > Best Regards > Erik Hildrum Saltveit > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST cc. kindly see the recipients address list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Erik Hildrum Saltveit wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question about a ethernet card is supported or not in freebsd? > 32-bit PCI,Realtek RTL8169S > You should use a more descriptive subject next time. The re(4) driver appears to support this device in 7.2 and 8.0. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Destroying CDs (Re: (no subject))
Modulok writes: > Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R? Not that I would trust, even if it existed. Heavy duty office shredders do the job for me. A blowtorch is more fun, though (and I actually own one). -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:05:40PM -0700, Modulok typed: > List, > > Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R? There's allways a software method ;) http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080220 Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Destroying a CD-R without a sledgehammer (Was: Re: (no subject))
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:05:40 Modulok wrote: > List, > > Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R? No. A CD-R is only readable once written. Rewritable CD's (CD-RW) you can reformat using your favorite burn tool, which should provide a short and long blank method. See for example the 'blank' and 'erase' command for burncd(8) for specifics. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed 2009-12-23 12:05:40 UTC-0700, Modulok (modu...@gmail.com) wrote: > Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R? > Something like: > > dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/acd0? > > Obviously the above doesn't work, but the idea is there. I suspect most CD burners are designed to disallow overwriting of data already written to a CD-R. Otherwise the software method would already exist and you'd see lots of people treating CD-Rs as rewritable discs. Which they aren't. Personally I'd physically destroy the disc using whatever method you prefer, eg. removing the label with steel wool, or disintegrate the disc with a shredder. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:05:40 -0700, Modulok wrote: > List, > > Is there a software method (not a microwave oven) to destroy a CD-R? > Something like: > > dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/acd0? > > Obviously the above doesn't work, but the idea is there. There are platform where it works. :-) What do you mean by "destroy" - make it unreadable before or after something has been burned onto the CD-R? You can use /dev/random to fill the writing process for tools like cdrdao or cdrecord, e. g. dd if=/dev/random bs=1024 count=100 | cdrecord -tao -data - Maybe you need to set specific options (dev=, speed=) for your recorder. However, after a successful recording, it's easier to destroy the CD-R physically. If the session (and media) is already closed, the same idea applies. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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nicholas addei wrote: please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in as root You need to follow these instructions: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: (no subject) Gnome
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:10:53 + (GMT), Steven Seipel wrote: > I had the same problem. An arrogant person at the freebsd > forum said I had a lack of resolving, but I didn't know > what he was talking about. That's not a good way to promote FreeBSD, but be sure that this list is full of friendly people willing to help you, as long as you are able to - specify your problem as precise as possible - give commands you tried - give error messages that can help identifying the problem. > Someone said to edit /etc/rc.conf but that didn't help > because it was a read only file. Obviously, you've tried to edit /etc/rc.conf without being root. This file is writable to root only because it contains the system's configuration, so it's quite important and doesn't allow anybody to alter it. > I reinstalled freebsd all over again and that time it > worked. What did you do differently this time? > You may need to try that. However I haven't yet been > able to get it running, and I have the popuplar problem > of mouse and keyboard not working with xorg. It's pretty > discouraging. Yes, I really know that... :-) For Gnome, have a look at the handbook's section: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html You'll find many informations here. And for X, refer to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html where the problems of "modern" X are discussed. Keep in mind that you have to answer an important qustion first: "Do I need HAL and DBUS?" This might be the situation when you want to run Gnome with automount features. > So all I can suggest is installing the operating system again. Sorry, that's completely stupid. FreeBSD isn't "Windows", you do not need to have to install the OS over and over again, just because you encounter trouble installing, running or configuring additional software (which Gnome is); remember that FreeBSD is not a Linux distribution, it maintains its own "base operating system", and as far as I see, there's no problem with it on your system. Please, don't make things more complicated than they are, and don't waste your time with such nonsense. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Jerry schrieb: On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:36:27 +0200 Lokadamus Lokadamus replied: nicholas addei schrieb: please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in as root would appreciate your help. :49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i 86 Normaly you do pkg_add -r gnome But know i get an error back. pkg_add -nr gnome Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz' by URL With cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 make install will it work, but some hours/ days need to install. An old 1GHz System need 3 days for KDE 3 ;). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/packages-using.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports-using.html Running as root: pkg_add -nr gnome2 It works here. Is your ports tree up-to-date? Ah, i see my mistake. I use only pkg_add -r gnome, not gnome2 ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Steven Seipel schrieb: I had the same problem. An arrogant person at the freebsd forum said I had a lack of resolving, but I didn't know what he was talking about. Someone said to edit /etc/rc.conf but that didn't help because it was a read only file. I reinstalled freebsd all over again and that time it worked. You may need to try that. However I haven't yet been able to get it running, and I have the popuplar problem of mouse and keyboard not working with xorg. It's pretty discouraging. So all I can suggest is installing the operating system again. Steve I know what is mean. I had a problem last year, where i can't install something. Later i see that our dns server was down and ping ebay.com wasn't resolved. After dns server was back all works fine. One other problem can be active or passive ftp. Last week i want install mailscanner (FreeBSD 8.0 RC1), but nothing with ftp was download. I look for a solution, but environment for ftp passive was set. So i looked at our firewall and see that active ftp was use instead of passive. I give all ports over 1024 free for it and it works. Sorry for my bad english :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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I had the same problem. An arrogant person at the freebsd forum said I had a lack of resolving, but I didn't know what he was talking about. Someone said to edit /etc/rc.conf but that didn't help because it was a read only file. I reinstalled freebsd all over again and that time it worked. You may need to try that. However I haven't yet been able to get it running, and I have the popuplar problem of mouse and keyboard not working with xorg. It's pretty discouraging. So all I can suggest is installing the operating system again. Steve --- El mié, 21/10/09, Jerry escribió: De: Jerry Asunto: Re: (no subject) Gnome Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fecha: miércoles, 21 de octubre, 2009 01:17 On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:36:27 +0200 Lokadamus Lokadamus replied: >nicholas addei schrieb: >> please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in >> as root >> >> would appreciate your help. >> >> >> >> :49:13 UTC 2009 >> r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i >> >> 86 >> >Normaly you do >pkg_add -r gnome > >But know i get an error back. >pkg_add -nr gnome >Error: FTP Unable to get >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz: > >File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >pkg_add: unable to fetch >'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz' > >by URL > >With >cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 >make install >will it work, but some hours/ days need to install. > >An old 1GHz System need 3 days for KDE 3 ;). > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/packages-using.html >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports-using.html Running as root: pkg_add -nr gnome2 It works here. Is your ports tree up-to-date? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | The sudden sight of me causes panic in the streets. They have yet to learn - only the savage fears what he does not understand. The Silver Surfer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: (no subject) Gnome
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:36:27 +0200 Lokadamus Lokadamus replied: >nicholas addei schrieb: >> please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in >> as root >> >> would appreciate your help. >> >> >> >> :49:13 UTC 2009 >> r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i >> >> 86 >> >Normaly you do >pkg_add -r gnome > >But know i get an error back. >pkg_add -nr gnome >Error: FTP Unable to get >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz: > >File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >pkg_add: unable to fetch >'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz' > >by URL > >With >cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 >make install >will it work, but some hours/ days need to install. > >An old 1GHz System need 3 days for KDE 3 ;). > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/packages-using.html >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports-using.html Running as root: pkg_add -nr gnome2 It works here. Is your ports tree up-to-date? -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | The sudden sight of me causes panic in the streets. They have yet to learn - only the savage fears what he does not understand. The Silver Surfer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: (no subject) Gnome
nicholas addei schrieb: please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in as root would appreciate your help. :49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i 86 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Normaly you do pkg_add -r gnome But know i get an error back. pkg_add -nr gnome Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/Latest/gnome.tbz' by URL With cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 make install will it work, but some hours/ days need to install. An old 1GHz System need 3 days for KDE 3 ;). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/packages-using.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports-using.html greetings ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 02:26:45AM -0700, nicholas addei wrote: > please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in as root > > would appreciate your help. You will get more help if you first, use a meaningful subject line on your post and then if you put some useful information in the post - such as just what you tried and what happened along with what messages that were displayed. jerry > > > > :49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i > > 86 > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:26:45 -0700 (PDT) nicholas addei (uncleka...@yahoo.co.uk) replied: >please am not able to install gnome on freebsd 7.2,after loging in as >root > >would appreciate your help. > >:49:13 UTC 2009 >r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i Maybe next time you could include a "SUBJECT:" with your post. Anyway, your post is useless. Exactly what is your problem? Might I suggest that you use "script" or whatever else you prefer to create a complete log of your failed installation attempt and then either paste it here if it isn't too large, or place a link to it here. You might also consider cleaning out the "/usr/ports/distfiles' directory and then running: "portsclean -C -L -PP" if you have it installed before attempting a new build. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com |=== |=== |=== |=== | An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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As soon as you send these, you find an answer. Loaded geom_stripe and I was able to see the array --Original Message-- From: Derrick MacPherson Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Sent: Aug 10, 2009 14:40 I had a ssd drive in a system to use as temp backup server, it has 6 1tb drives in it that i created a raid0 (i'm pretty sure that's what I created) and used as a backup, to rebuild our file server. the ssd drive was taken back after a couple weeks as the box was no longer being used. At this point I need to check whats on that array due to some data corruption. The drives in the array are probably not plugged in as they were when used before. Is it possible, and if so how, to recover that array? I've popped in a different system drive and have got the box back up, I thought there'd be a way to read the labels on the drives and recreate the raid set.. am i wrong? -- Derrick MacPherson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Sent from my BlackBerry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hi Derrick On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Derrick MacPherson wrote: > > I had a ssd drive in a system to use as temp backup server, it has 6 1tb > drives in it that i created a raid0 (i'm pretty sure that's what I > created) That is a very important piece of information to have. You cannot rebuild RAID0 arrays because there is no redundancy nor parity. You _can_ rebuild RAID1 arrays. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Michael Christie wrote: Hi there all, I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd 7.1 with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed to do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror at the time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 and AR0 on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the system would not boot. I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default the drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use “fix it” and using the live cd. I have google but cannot find it You do understand that 'ar0' is an ATARAID mirror and nothing to do with gmirror at all? gmirror uses device names like /dev/mirror/gm0 typically. Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how to remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. You don't need to remove gmirror per-se. If you do a fresh install on top of what you have, it will set up the drive you install on as a stand-alone disk. In fact, you can take one of a gmirror'd pair and just tweak the device names in /etc/fstab and run it as a plain disk pretty easily without reinstalling at all. There will be gmirror metadata blocks on disk, but these wont have any effect unless you mount partitions on the gmirror device. To remove those metadata blocks, just do # gmirror clear /dev/mirror/gm0 (or whatever your gmirror device is called) -- obviously *not* while the gmirror is active. You may need to allow writes to an active underlying partition by # sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 The ATARAID mirror you seem to have picked up inadvertently is very similar to a gmirror RAID in the way it works, except that it won't generally have the nice behaviour for replacing blown hot-swap drives without having to reboot the system. In any case, you can just ignore /dev/ar0 and mount partitions from /dev/ad4 instead, equivalently as for the gmirror case. To remove ar0, just do: # atacontrol delete ar0 Either of these are fairly safe to do while the system is up and running. Also, I suspect that your system is not booting for a different reason than you think. You'ld have to tell us the exact error message you see in order to get a definitive answer, but given what you've described two pretty likely problems are: * Early stage boot blocks can't find the kernel image. In this case you'll be dumped at the loader prompt and asked to give the device name and path to read the kernel from -- typically something like (ad,0)/boot/kernel/kernel (you can use the 'ls' command in the loader to see what available devices there are to try booting from). * Can't mount root partition. Generally this means that /etc/fstab contains incorrect data. In this case, you can probably boot to single user, remount the root partition read-write and then edit /etc/fstab These are not impossibly difficult things to deal with, but neither are they entirely trivial, and if you're a beginner and you don't care about what's currently on the disk, you might find it more productive just to reinstall over the top of the previous contents. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jon Radel wrote: > wcl...@dl1.njit.edu wrote: >> >> How do I set up mail server on 7.2bsd > > That's such a broad question that it's unreasonable to expect a complete > answer on a mailing list. So I'd suggest you start with reading some > documentation, such as > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html > > Once you've decided which e-mail server you wish to use and what you want it > to do, feel free to come back with specific questions if things go wrong or > specific steps remain obscure. +1 . . . and a descriptive (email) subject line may help attract help. Prior to opening, I was intrigued to see what a post about nothing would look like ;-) > > -- > > --Jon Radel > j...@radel.com > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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wcl...@dl1.njit.edu wrote: How do I set up mail server on 7.2bsd That's such a broad question that it's unreasonable to expect a complete answer on a mailing list. So I'd suggest you start with reading some documentation, such as http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html Once you've decided which e-mail server you wish to use and what you want it to do, feel free to come back with specific questions if things go wrong or specific steps remain obscure. -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html -jgh On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:23:58PM -0400, wcl...@dl1.njit.edu thus spake: How do I set up mail server on 7.2bsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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2009/6/28 Anton : > > Hello freebsd-questions, > > Please, help: > > Howto forward packet from Internet to some intranet address with IPFW? > You'll get a better response if you have a subject in the email. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html Forwarding is explained here, but not included in the example. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Fred Terp wrote: > This is a dumb Question which I should know the answer to. I can get gdm > to recogize my logins but xdm and wdm wont accept my username/password > entrys what am I forgetting? > Not sure if this will help, but are you configuring the ttyv8 line in /etc/ttys? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
awk field (was Re: (no subject))
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Len Conrad wrote:
We need to print a line when the 3rd field (with trailing ";" delimiter) is,
eg, exactly 5 lower case characters
awk ' $3 ~ /^[a-z]{5,5};$/ {print $0} ' file
... doesn't work.
Suggestions?
Please give an example of the line this doesn't work on, and exactly
what you want it to do.
"{5}" is probably acceptable instead of "{5,5}". I don't do much awk,
but here's a Perl example:
perl -e '$x = "abcde;"; print "Yes\n" if $x =~ /^[a-z]{5};$/'
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, ayyappa mhsp wrote: > sir, > i just want to know during the installation of bsd all the > applications that are in packages are installed or simply added to some > directories. > I want to generate some tcp or some other packets on one system. > Just tell me how to work with packages. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Please put a Subject: in your mails. Most people won't read emails w/o a subject. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:49 PM, wrote: > I am new to bsd how can i load sound and is there a plugin adobe maybe ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/print/acroread8 Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 > From: wcl...@dl1.njit.edu > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: (no subject) > > I just in stalled VTiger and missed the instructions on how to install it > .do know or is there a command that will let me find that info You could take a look at /usr/ports/www/vtiger/files/pkg-message.in; this won't make the appropriate substitutions (i.e., '%%WWWDIR%%' for the actual directory), but still it's something (the same goes for www/vtiger-customerportal and german/vtiger, if you installed any of them). _ Permanece actualizado con MSN Noticias. Clic aquí http://noticias.cl.msn.com/___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Sydney Longfellow wrote: > Greetings. > > I am having a problem with processes building up until the server locks > up. By viewing top what I'm seeing is it going up to 400 processes with > most sleeping and a lot of lockf and sbwait states on the processes. > > Any idea what would cause this? > FYI: Most people will mark emails without a subject as spam. -- Glen Barber "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 15:47 +0330, abedini wrote: > Hi all dear > > I have laptop acer 4220 and I need to install FreeBSD. > > This laptop have sata HDD how can install FreeBSD in this system. If you have the iso for freebsd on cd you can simply boot from the cd and follow the bouncing ball (similar to other systems except still in text mode). Other than that follow the handbook found under documentation on the freebsd site. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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2008/12/12 abedini : > Hi all dear > > I have laptop acer 4220 and I need to install FreeBSD. > > This laptop have sata HDD how can install FreeBSD in this system. > > Hello. If you need a desktop environment you can try PC-BSD (http://www.pcbsd.org/), it's easy and fast to set-up. I believe it will run good at your hardware. I had it on my old 1,6Ghz asus laptop and it was ok. And if you need a console interface - just get latest release of FreeBSD (http://www.freebsd.org/where.html). You can install from CD images, FTP or whatever suits you better. -- Best regards, Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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Hello Mr. Abedini and all the others by that matter, I don't want to be rude but do you remember the time when we used to send letters. Any of those letter had a Subject. E-mail communications are based on those letters (the concept) and they do have a Subject line on which you should fill a small amount of information about what you intend to get help with. my 7 cents and a great day, v On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:17 PM, abedini wrote: > Hi all dear > > I have laptop acer 4220 and I need to install FreeBSD. > > This laptop have sata HDD how can install FreeBSD in this system. > > > > Mohammad Abedini > Site Acquisition Supervisor ( AHV ) > Tel : 06113387881 > 06113921249 > Mobile :09179397499 > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
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On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:56:44AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > If one has a system with 7 500Gb SATA disks in a hardware RAID6 > (Areca Raid Controller), then (according to mail J.Chadwick 7 > Nov 2008) they will show up as da (following naming convention > for scsi disks although they are not). > RAID6 will allow about 2,5 Tb for the 'user' (roughly 1 Tb will > be consumed by the parity information of RAID6). > > How will this 2,5 Tb space present itself at the time of initial > install of FreeBSD? > Will this be a single 'disk' ad0 ? .. correct or not (then what)? It will start out looking like a single large disk /dev/da0. > > If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: > "A = Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as > ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? > > Page 427 of the FreeBSD handbook states that due to the use of 32-bit > integers to store the number of sectors is limited to 2^32 -1 > sectors/disk = 2 TB. A layout could be > a / 1Gb, > b swap, > d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who > claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except > for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to > boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something > big ??) No, it will not.Do not make /root a separate partition/filesystem. Leave it in / > e /tmp 20 Gb, > f /var 20 Gb, > g /usr 20 Gb > this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all > that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 > BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions > (highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least > one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? If you really need this much disk, there must be a reason. What do you intend to put in it? My suggestion would be to put a lot more in /var because that is where data base utilities default to putting their data. Then you can reduce the amount left over to what would fit in /home. So, a:1 GB/ b:4 GBswap d:7 GB/tmp e: 20 GB/usrports can just be left here then f: 1024 GB/vardatabases live here g: remainder /home (Approximately 1536 GB) You can shift this around as you need. Maybe 2048 GB /home and 512 GB /var jerry > > What is the best scheme of BSD-partitioning in this case? > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Perhaps you should try the linux distros first to get a bit of a feel of *nix variants? FreeBSD can be daunting to the first time user, but is one hell of a production system once you know how to handle it properly. Several people in this thread have made this recommendation... I disagree with it. #1. I don't think FreeBSD has a steeper learning curve than Linux... I'd argue the opposite, since with Linux you have the confusion of different distros doing things in different ways. That was one of the main beefs I had with Linux. Every Linux book is filled with statements like "if you are using debian, do this; if redhat, do this; if etc., etc." And I've never met a Linux guy who stuck with his first distro... the grass is always greener. #2. If your goal is to use FreeBSD, why learn on Linux? Depending on the distro you choose, you may have to unlearn a whole bunch of stuff to use FreeBSD. Sorry... I've been burned by Windows and confused by Linux. As a true convert, I must say: start with the best. -- John Off topic and none of my business: - As a business person, I would also question the idea of trying to become an expert systems administrator, and an expert website builder, and an expert marketer/salesperson/product manager, all at the same time. These are all full-time jobs and no one has the time to do them all. You might want to think about focusing on the product/marketing/sales side (surely enough for one person!), and delegating all the technical bits to other people or companies. That way, you won't spend the next year or two spinning your wheels learning something that you could get for free or buy relatively inexpensively from a real expert. Building and operating a website is the easy part of building an online business. Don't underestimate the difficulty or time and money required for the business side, particularly marketing. You should reserve at least 50% of your cash for marketing, in my humble (but experienced) opinion. %80, if your cost of inventory will be low (writing your own how-to guides, for instance.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:28:07AM -0500, Michael Powell wrote: >> >> If you are totally new to Linux/Unix and have zero experience and just >> want an easy, out of the box "something other" than XP you might try the >> latest incarnation of Kubuntu. I know in a FreeBSD list these comments >> are sacrilege, but the broader picture is what your needs truly are. I take that back - I just examined the latest Kubuntu. It is the simplest to install of just about anything I've seen, but once installed is just so excruciatingly annoying! Ease of install doesn't make up for the short sightedness of Canonical. > I'd suggest PC-BSD instead, and not only because it's a FreeBSD spin-off. > It also provides PBI for software management, which will surely provide a > gentler transition for people used to the Microsoft way of installing > software, and doesn't make a lot of the design mistakes I see in Ubuntu > and its spin-offs. > > DesktopBSD is a pretty good choice along those lines, too. Still better > than Ubuntu, in my opinion. > > Furthermore . . . they both use KDE by default, and you don't have to use > a red-headed stepchild or second-hand citizen like Kubuntu to get it. > Yes, I like this suggestion better - I've just never used either one but rather just built KDE out from ports. I just took some brief looks at Kubuntu 8.10 in a VirtualBox VM and it still annoys me no end. I had used it some time in the past and needed reminding why I quit. Fedora 9 looks a trifle better, and the openSUSE 11.1 Beta is a train wreck. So my desktop will probably stay openSUSE 10.3 as this allows me to get work done. If none of the "newer, improved and advanced" Linuxes get their act together soon I will probably be returning to KDE on FreeBSD in the not very distant future. I just can't spend all my time screwing around with b***cr**. >> >> Now running a real live "Web" presence out of your house is probably not >> really a good idea if it has anything to do with business. A personal >> blog can go down for indefinite periods and no harm done, but a business >> site is a different story. First, the reason for having your servers >> located in a data center is they are sitting directly on the "fat pipes" >> of the Internet. Second, these data centers are "multi homed" in their >> peerage to other backbones. If one connection path develops a problem >> your site is still going to be accessible via one of the other paths. You >> simply will never have the kind of connectivity found in a real data >> center at home. > > Make sure the colocation facility of your choice is multi-homed before > simply assuming it is. Some aren't. > I wouldn't want one with less than 3 peerages, and I'm in favor of full mesh arrangements. But at this stage of the game I think the OP is better served by learning how it all works before he starts co-locating or leasing dedicated boxen. Baby steps first, so to speak. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:45 -0500, SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP > would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part > company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without > a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. > > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year > old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to > download it. > > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife > of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that > I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the > current economic crisis. > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to > promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from > that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products > over a hundred or more websites. > > All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. > > I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd > appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some > suggestions back at me.. > > Thanks, > > Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008 Perhaps you should try the linux distros first to get a bit of a feel of *nix variants? FreeBSD can be daunting to the first time user, but is one hell of a production system once you know how to handle it properly. Maybe start with Ubuntu rather than Debian straight off (I never quite worked out how to download Debian either... wierd bunch that :) ), it is a bit like a half way house for new users, and helps out with some of the usual administrative tasks. Fedora is another good one, but the support is better with ubuntu, plus the Ubuntu is more forgiving admin wise. In any case I'd say you'll be in for a steep learning curve, but at least the gradient is not as sharp when you start with Ubuntu. Keep watching this list, it'll answer any questions you have (no matter how silly they may seem to experienced users, and without most of the condescension you'll find on a lot of lists- Ubuntu support is similar to this list), and read the handbook, and eventually you'll be able to tame one of the most powerful operating systems in the computing world and put it to work for you. Some servers have been going for months and even years without stopping (depending on security required and experience of the admin), so it is rock solid. Good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:28:07AM -0500, Michael Powell wrote: > > If you are totally new to Linux/Unix and have zero experience and just want > an easy, out of the box "something other" than XP you might try the latest > incarnation of Kubuntu. I know in a FreeBSD list these comments are > sacrilege, but the broader picture is what your needs truly are. I'd suggest PC-BSD instead, and not only because it's a FreeBSD spin-off. It also provides PBI for software management, which will surely provide a gentler transition for people used to the Microsoft way of installing software, and doesn't make a lot of the design mistakes I see in Ubuntu and its spin-offs. DesktopBSD is a pretty good choice along those lines, too. Still better than Ubuntu, in my opinion. Furthermore . . . they both use KDE by default, and you don't have to use a red-headed stepchild or second-hand citizen like Kubuntu to get it. > > Now running a real live "Web" presence out of your house is probably not > really a good idea if it has anything to do with business. A personal blog > can go down for indefinite periods and no harm done, but a business site is > a different story. First, the reason for having your servers located in a > data center is they are sitting directly on the "fat pipes" of the > Internet. Second, these data centers are "multi homed" in their peerage to > other backbones. If one connection path develops a problem your site is > still going to be accessible via one of the other paths. You simply will > never have the kind of connectivity found in a real data center at home. Make sure the colocation facility of your choice is multi-homed before simply assuming it is. Some aren't. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Just don't create a file called -rf." pgpjWixg2rE94.pgp Description: PGP signature
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SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP > would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part > company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without > a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. > > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year > old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to > download it. > > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife > of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that > I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the > current economic crisis. > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to > promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from > that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products > over a hundred or more websites. > > All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. > > I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd > appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some > suggestions back at me.. > [snip] Just some ideas from the $.02 department: As far as replacing XP with something else to be used as a desktop machine, ala the GUI route, my own personal preference is the KDE desktop. I've been using it so many years now it is second nature, but there are just "useability" patterns which I've become so accustomed to that make it so I don't want to use XP any longer. I just like KDE as a GUI instead of the XP interface. It is also, imho an easier transition from Windows for someone with little or no Unix experience. I used KDE on FreeBSD as my main desktop for many years, but I finally gave in to openSUSE 10.3 on my workstation as I really found a need for Virtualbox and being able to run virtual machines. I have three Linux browsers, a VM with Windows XP SP2 and IE6, and a Windows XP SP3 VM with IE7, Opera, Firefox, and Safari. I confirm that all xhtml-transitional web pages I write look the same in all of these. And I can do this with no rebooting the machine. If you are totally new to Linux/Unix and have zero experience and just want an easy, out of the box "something other" than XP you might try the latest incarnation of Kubuntu. I know in a FreeBSD list these comments are sacrilege, but the broader picture is what your needs truly are. Now on the server side things are much different. In spite of the steep learning curve associated with being a newbie to Unices, I still feel FreeBSD makes a better server platform. You just need to recondition your expectations to administrating it largely via command line, as most sysadmins who operate FreeBSD servers do not install any GUI software on them. I know I don't. You will find maintaining a FreeBSD server much less aggravating than Linux. It is coherent, clean, well documented, a well thought out and very complete operating system. Performance is pretty good too. Especially when you factor in what you payed for it! :-) As far as setting up server(s) at your home, this is a good way for learning. It is also a test platform for any web sites you may be running. Keep a mirror at home to make and evaluate changes thoroughly _before_ uploading them to your active site(s). Never make changes that you haven't tested out first. Now running a real live "Web" presence out of your house is probably not really a good idea if it has anything to do with business. A personal blog can go down for indefinite periods and no harm done, but a business site is a different story. First, the reason for having your servers located in a data center is they are sitting directly on the "fat pipes" of the Internet. Second, these data centers are "multi homed" in their peerage to other backbones. If one connection path develops a problem your site is still going to be accessible via one of the other paths. You simply will never have the kind of connectivity found in a real data center at home. I do not approve of HTML WYSIWYG editing abominations such as Dreamweaver and their ilk. They make it seem like anyone can write a Web page but in reality what they output isn't standards compliant. Over the years I've looked at a few, and found they all output crap. The only way to write technically profici
RE: Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject))
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Hill > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:08 PM > To: SAM HAYNES > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject)) > > > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, SAM HAYNES wrote: > > > > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a > > wife of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong > > belief that I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing > > despite the current economic crisis. > > Good. You have been building PCs -and- doing wiring a lot longer than I > have been doing either. Nobody needs to tell you what an IRQ is, or why > a "loose neutral" might be a problem. > > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp > > to promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds > > from that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' > > products over a hundred or more websites. > > I have no business sense, and can't comment on the model. I do and can. We have customers doing this. However it is going to take you many years to get this up and going and there's a huge amount of competition. You have a LOT to learn. And it will never pay much. Your most profitable bet is to visit your local IBEW office and get your license current, then start going around to all of the local builders and giving them your card. There's a big need for people who can do small electrical jobs under permit. If this is out, and your dead-set on doing something on the Internet, then go to some classes, learn how to write a decent website, and spend a few years doing websites for people. There's not a lot of money in that either, but there's more than trying to do what you think you want to do. And, you will never be able to do what you think you want to do until you are intimately familiar with HTML. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject))
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, SAM HAYNES wrote: Greetings, O Learned Ones from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. It depends on what you consider essential. I have been using FreeBSD as my daily desktop for maybe 10 years now. The only complaint I have is that Adobe steadfastly refuses to let us run a useable Flash player. Even that is Adobe's fault, not FreeBSD's. Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to download it. If you should decide to give FreeBSD a shot, all you need is the "disc1" image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.1/ -Well, also of course, a suitable machine on which to install. FreeBSD is a *lot* less resource-hungry than Windows in my experience. 7.1 is in beta right this minute, but it seems that release is imminent. There should be an announcement on the website when the time comes. Anyway, the idea is to download the ISO file, burn it to a CD, and boot the CD. If you're in the learing/experimenting phase, I would strongly suggest not doing the experiment on your only computer. You'll probably appreciate having a working web browser, email, etc. during the process. If you're used to Windows, this will be quite different. I like that FreeBSD does what you tell it to, not what it thought you might have wanted. Of course, that's a double-edged sword. So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the current economic crisis. Good. You have been building PCs -and- doing wiring a lot longer than I have been doing either. Nobody needs to tell you what an IRQ is, or why a "loose neutral" might be a problem. My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products over a hundred or more websites. I have no business sense, and can't comment on the model. But I can say that you'd be hard-pressed to find a better server platform than FreeBSD. HTH, and good luck with the plan. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (no subject)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 07:45:07PM -0500, SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP > would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part > company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without > a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. > > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year > old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to > download it. > > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife > of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that > I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the > current economic crisis. > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to > promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from > that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products > over a hundred or more websites. > > All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. > > I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd > appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some > suggestions back at me.. Well, you have to judge if your product has legs for the market place. But, FreeBSD would be a very good platform to host your server if you choose to go ahead with doing this. FreeBSD is quite different from MS-Win stuff.I would advise finding some space on a machine and installing and using it for a bit to get past the initial learning curve - which can be quite steep for a person whose main background is in MS-Win. But, once you get the hang of it you will begin to see the advantages. FreeBSD expects you to actually manage it. It is not a handholding or keep-its-distance-from-the-user type of system like MS-Win or even MAC-OSen.You can get right down to the bits if you want or need. But, there are very good tools and documentation (once you get used to the stule) that will make it all work just fine. jerry > > Thanks, > > Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008 > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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kakyama umar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, their have just installed freebsd 6.2 but am having issues with > configuring ssh so can you plz help me out. http://www.lemis.com/questions.html -- Sahil Tandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (no subject) rmuser error
On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 12:04 -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:11 +0100, Lubomir Matousek wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the following problem when using rmuser (freebsd 6.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > rmuser -v hana says hana > > > > > > Matching password entry: > > > > > > > > > > > > hana:*:1091:1092::0:0:/usr/home/hana:/usr/sbin/nologin says hana ^ says /usr/home/hana > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? yes Remove user's home directory > > > (/usr/home/hanka)? yes Removing crontab for (hana):. ^ Notice that the username has been changed -- there's a k inserted. The kernel error is "no such file or directory", which makes sense, as we have seen no references thus far to a directory named hanka. > > > > > > Removing at(1) jobs owned by (hana): 0 removed. > > > > > > Removing IPC mechanismsipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file > > > or > > > directory > > > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory > > > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory . > > > > > > Terminating all processes owned by (hana): -KILL signal sent to 0 > > > processes. > > > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /tmp: 0 removed. > > > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /var/tmp: 0 removed. > > > > > > Removing mail spool(s) for (hana): /var/mail/hana. > > > > > > Removing user (hana) (including home directory) from the system: Done. > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem started, when I accidentaly deleted /usr/home directory and I > > > had to create a new one. I checked /etc/password file and the direcory > > > existed before using rmuser. Can anybody help please? As I said, /etc/passwd is generated from /etc/master.passwd. So make sure there's no extra k in there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lubos > > > > > > Looks like the problem is that somewhere within there it's expected that > > the home directory isn't /usr/home/hana, it's /usr/home/hanka > > > > Have you checked /etc/master.passwd to make sure that there's no > > mis-entry in there? Or just try creating /usr/home/hanka and see if it > > works itself out. > > Personally, I'm unsure where the "problem" is. The only suspicious thing > I see is the inability to remove shared memory segments, which is a bit > strange but not wholly unexpected. Did you build a kernel without shared > memory? > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (no subject)
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:11 +0100, Lubomir Matousek wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > I have the following problem when using rmuser (freebsd 6.2) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > rmuser -v hana > > > > Matching password entry: > > > > > > > > hana:*:1091:1092::0:0:/usr/home/hana:/usr/sbin/nologin > > > > > > > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? yes Remove user's home directory > > (/usr/home/hanka)? yes Removing crontab for (hana):. > > > > Removing at(1) jobs owned by (hana): 0 removed. > > > > Removing IPC mechanismsipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or > > directory > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory . > > > > Terminating all processes owned by (hana): -KILL signal sent to 0 processes. > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /tmp: 0 removed. > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /var/tmp: 0 removed. > > > > Removing mail spool(s) for (hana): /var/mail/hana. > > > > Removing user (hana) (including home directory) from the system: Done. > > > > --- > > > > > > > > The problem started, when I accidentaly deleted /usr/home directory and I > > had to create a new one. I checked /etc/password file and the direcory > > existed before using rmuser. Can anybody help please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lubos > > > Looks like the problem is that somewhere within there it's expected that > the home directory isn't /usr/home/hana, it's /usr/home/hanka > > Have you checked /etc/master.passwd to make sure that there's no > mis-entry in there? Or just try creating /usr/home/hanka and see if it > works itself out. Personally, I'm unsure where the "problem" is. The only suspicious thing I see is the inability to remove shared memory segments, which is a bit strange but not wholly unexpected. Did you build a kernel without shared memory? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: (no subject)
On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:11 +0100, Lubomir Matousek wrote: > Dear list, > > > > I have the following problem when using rmuser (freebsd 6.2) > > > > -- > > rmuser -v hana > > Matching password entry: > > > > hana:*:1091:1092::0:0:/usr/home/hana:/usr/sbin/nologin > > > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? yes Remove user's home directory > (/usr/home/hanka)? yes Removing crontab for (hana):. > > Removing at(1) jobs owned by (hana): 0 removed. > > Removing IPC mechanismsipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or > directory > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory . > > Terminating all processes owned by (hana): -KILL signal sent to 0 processes. > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /tmp: 0 removed. > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /var/tmp: 0 removed. > > Removing mail spool(s) for (hana): /var/mail/hana. > > Removing user (hana) (including home directory) from the system: Done. > > --- > > > > The problem started, when I accidentaly deleted /usr/home directory and I > had to create a new one. I checked /etc/password file and the direcory > existed before using rmuser. Can anybody help please? > > > > > > Lubos Looks like the problem is that somewhere within there it's expected that the home directory isn't /usr/home/hana, it's /usr/home/hanka Have you checked /etc/master.passwd to make sure that there's no mis-entry in there? Or just try creating /usr/home/hanka and see if it works itself out. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: I guess this one those ink blot tests. Nah. It's the Texas office of the FBI, trying to figure out if there really isn't anything satanical about FreeBSD... Alphons -- VISTA - Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bhuvaneswari Ramkumar wrote: > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > I guess this one those ink blot tests. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Tool Developers Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com "Free software != Free beer" Blog: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHnkqlQi2hk2LEXBARAmBAAKDhRdeEwNgQsKFF18a91Bus46mopACgkEct f6uDtz7wYlFadB43Boq2rs0= =qg7j -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Hi there, On 27/01/2008, JSCB Alokabank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > make buildkernel KERNCONF=KERNEL > ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KERNEL) > *** Error code 1 Is the KERNEL file in the right directory? It has to be /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/KERNEL or /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf, depending on the platform you're on. AFAIK you can't build an amd64 kernel on i386 and vice versa, so make sure your configuration is in the right directory. Use $ uname -m to determine on what platform you're on. HTH Christian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 12:38 +0500, JSCB Alokabank wrote: > ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KERNEL) Have u downloaded the kernel sources and followed the instructions in the *handbook* ? if u have installed it: usr/share/doc/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html Otherwise u find it on the net: www.freesbd.org/... From the handbook: ... Building a Kernel 1. Change to the /usr/src directory: # cd /usr/src 2. Compile the kernel: # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 3. Install the new kernel: # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL Note: It is required to have full FreeBSD source tree to build the kernel. ... -- /Peo -- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered - -- [novice about this? ~> visit: www.gnupg.org] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Hi, Have you read http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html ? I can't read russian, but you need chapter 8 in the handbook. -- Pieter Baele [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 27 Jan 2008, at 08:38, JSCB Alokabank wrote: Please help me I'am beginer in FreeBSD I try to rebuild kernel files for optimizations system. Whate i gona do? sorry but i dont speake englash language wery well. look to include files this is my build kernel. I'am talk on russian. make buildkernel KERNCONF=KERNEL ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KERNEL) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src # Лидер бывает только один - UzNet www.uznet.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] " ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:30:32 +0200 Baxton Mabhande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1)What are the three basic types of handheld devices? I give up, what? :) > 2)Which device is used in an environment that needs extended coverage > but backbone access is not practical or is unavailable? Depends on what you mean by 'extended'. > 3)What is the recommended maximum distance that can be bridged > between a Cisco 350 access point and any wireless client? That depends entirely on what sort of antennae are used, at either end, and what obstructions there are between access point and clients. With a pair of high-gain directional antennae pointing at one another with clear line of sight, some tens of km. High-gain directional antennae pointing at a high-gain omnidirectional access point antenna, some km. Indoors or through stands of vegetation (or people :), not far at all. The free online book, 'Wireless Networking in the Developing World', at http://wndw.net/ should provide practical answers to your questions. You may also enjoy http://rip.psg.com/~randy/070228.apricot-dumbo.pdf which shows use of a mixture of wired, satellite and wireless networks. (Please include a descriptive Subject line on messages to FreeBSD lists) Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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You need to do some reading on your own. Your questions are general enough that some Googling around the Internet should give you what you need. After having done sufficient reading on your own, if you still have questions, then come back. Show some initiative; don't expect us to spoon-feed you. SC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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On Dec 18, 2007 10:30 AM, Baxton Mabhande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1)What are the three basic types of handheld devices? > 2)Which device is used in an environment that needs extended coverage but > backbone access is not practical or is unavailable? > 3)What is the recommended maximum distance that can be bridged between a > Cisco 350 access point and any wireless client? you are posting to the wrong list. please repost to [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards, usleep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
