Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 sergio lenzi wrote: > Em Sex, 2008-06-20 às 21:45 +0200, Wojciech Puchar escreveu: > when i connected 56 cisco phones to my laptop (used 4*16 port switches ;), and having all of them working (called from first to second, from third to fourth etc..) there was below 4% CPU load but it's 1200Mhz Pentium-3M. >>> Yes... the cisco uses SIP, that is far more efficient... >>> >> i forget to say - SIP allows direct calls (data goes directly between >> phones), SCCP doesn't (at least asterisk module). >> >> in tests i intentionally disabled this to make asterisk server loaded > > we use sip the same way you do with sccp because we need tranfer calls > (,Tt) in the dial command > E1 boards, the best we tested are from the chinese openvox... > without echo cancelation it seels for about U$750,00 for one port E1, > US$1800 for 2 ports, > US$2800 for 4 ports... My god, for the hardware involved, that's unbelieveably expansive. > in my country (brazil) you may think it is too expensive, but as > you > think that ONE port for a siemens pabx is about US$4000 (yes, 4K > dollars) For the Siemens pabx, you're paying for the switching capability, and the literal ton of software to do all of the call handling. Maybe I got you wrong, in what I read above, I haven't seen those Openvox cards, but if they are only voice interface (a T1 or E1 single channel) plus signally, wow, that's a lot. If the interface an entire group, either T1 or E1, that's better, but it sure includes a healthy kick for a profit factor. I know, I've built them in the past, there's just not THAT much to them. Maybe I'm missing something. Actually, in the present case, the cost of doing switching has dropped in a major way, so the cost, which used to be justifiable at $4k/channel, well, it's certainly not that way any more. Let's see, from memory, I think that the old Northern Telecom DMS250 ran about 2.5 million plus the cost of channel banks, I think. I was always doing engineering, not sales, but your cost figures, they sure do seem high to me. As far as handling the software, the old tandem switches used to use mini-computers to run maybe 4,000 channels in one switch. I forget the name of the most famous tandem switch, but I do know they used a single mini. Today's computers are far more capable, and so could very easily power a whole switch. Course, doing that kind of software, well, it's the most difficult stuff to do that has ever been accomplished. The folks that did it never got enough credit. > you may imagine that for the price of only one board for a siemens you > can mount > the pbx, the cpu, the FreeBSD. > > you mount a 100 phones pbx for less than half the price of a siemens > equipment > including the 50 ATAs linksys pap2. > > The poor the country, the more you pay that is the rule. > > Philips, nortel, alcatel are even more expensive.. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIXpYvz62J6PPcoOkRAsZoAKCDFT6zyX43pSZkSDC1xv3xsYsMXACfZQvq TsB0dr9vQN6+03TVyGl9mA0= =oUqG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
Em Sex, 2008-06-20 às 21:45 +0200, Wojciech Puchar escreveu: > >> when i connected 56 cisco phones to my laptop (used 4*16 port switches > >> ;), and having all of them working (called from first to second, from > >> third to > >> fourth etc..) there was below 4% CPU load but it's 1200Mhz Pentium-3M. > >> > >> > > > > Yes... the cisco uses SIP, that is far more efficient... > > > i forget to say - SIP allows direct calls (data goes directly between > phones), SCCP doesn't (at least asterisk module). > > in tests i intentionally disabled this to make asterisk server loaded we use sip the same way you do with sccp because we need tranfer calls (,Tt) in the dial command E1 boards, the best we tested are from the chinese openvox... without echo cancelation it seels for about U$750,00 for one port E1, US$1800 for 2 ports, US$2800 for 4 ports... in my country (brazil) you may think it is too expensive, but as you think that ONE port for a siemens pabx is about US$4000 (yes, 4K dollars) you may imagine that for the price of only one board for a siemens you can mount the pbx, the cpu, the FreeBSD. you mount a 100 phones pbx for less than half the price of a siemens equipment including the 50 ATAs linksys pap2. The poor the country, the more you pay that is the rule. Philips, nortel, alcatel are even more expensive.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
> when i connected 56 cisco phones to my laptop (used 4*16 port switches > ;), and having all of them working (called from first to second, from third > to > fourth etc..) there was below 4% CPU load but it's 1200Mhz Pentium-3M. > > Yes... the cisco uses SIP, that is far more efficient... the problem is the E1 boards... that all the processing of hdc and blocking/deblocking/signalling is done by the main board processor... so the high irq rate We think FreeBSD is a good choice for VOIP asterisks... BEsides put us (the company) in a higher level.. not because Linux is bad, but because the linux people did not made good servers in the past, so, we decided to link our name (the company) to UNIX (BSD) it is a stronger name... With the famous rock solid of FreeBSD, our customers are satisfyed whith the performance of the machine and the quality of the product ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
As well as the ever popular Asterisk, there is also /usr/ports/net/sipxpbx If all you want is SIP this will do nicely. Thomas Mullins wrote: Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be greatly appreciated. Shane ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Chris St Denis Programmer SmarttNet (www.smartt.com) Ph: 604-473-9700 Ext. 200 --- "Smart Internet Solutions For Businesses" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
each board fires 2 irqs and 1000 irq/sec each... so is 2000 irq per board, at a max of 6000 irq /sec Cpu use (using top) is about 10% only when receiving fax (because of still quite a lot ;) when i connected 56 cisco phones to my laptop (used 4*16 port switches ;), and having all of them working (called from first to second, from third to fourth etc..) there was below 4% CPU load but it's 1200Mhz Pentium-3M. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
Em Sex, 2008-06-20 às 19:19 +0200, Wojciech Puchar escreveu: > > How much cpu > > we use always AMD 64 X2 with 2Gb of memory for > > up to 3 PCI boards of 4 E1 each, that is: 12 E1. > > what codec do you use? if no recoding (alaw) i think it uses very > little CPU in order of few% of single or less. We use ulaw (for the logarithm mode of the volume) so no recoding is done... each board fires 2 irqs and 1000 irq/sec each... so is 2000 irq per board, at a max of 6000 irq /sec Cpu use (using top) is about 10% only when receiving fax (because of the spandsp), goes to 20%... when recieving 4 simultaneous fax We use Hylafax + iaxmodem... works like a charm... the same way 24/7... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
greatly appreciated. I bought the book "Asterisk: The Future of Telephony" a little while ago, and it was an *excellent* introduction. I used it to configure Asterisk on i must say it was *excellent* for me too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
How much cpu we use always AMD 64 X2 with 2Gb of memory for up to 3 PCI boards of 4 E1 each, that is: 12 E1. what codec do you use? if no recoding (alaw) i think it uses very little CPU in order of few% of single or less. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
On Friday 20 June 2008, Thomas Mullins wrote: > Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software > are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be > greatly appreciated. I bought the book "Asterisk: The Future of Telephony" a little while ago, and it was an *excellent* introduction. I used it to configure Asterisk on my FreeBSD server. link: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596009625/ -- Kirk Strauser signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
Em Sex, 2008-06-20 às 14:55 +0200, Wojciech Puchar escreveu: > > Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software I work on a copany that does this PABX (large ones) only using FreeBSD -> http://www.levier.com.br FreeBSD 7.0 asterisk 1.4 openvox hardware it is incredible stable... and using postgres as a database + dial controller... (the dial logic is done in sql stored procedures) the possibilities are far beyond the needs of the clients We have several call centers using it... in a 24/7 basis... Using hardware from openvox (E1/ISDN) How much cpu we use always AMD 64 X2 with 2Gb of memory for up to 3 PCI boards of 4 E1 each, that is: 12 E1. Each board trigges 2000 interrups/second... so there are 6000 irqs/sec on the system for an universe of 200 ATA's (cisco PAP2...) and 400 users... on line, fulltime... On the bench mark, FreeBSD was superior performance over other OS... including the new Linux kernels.. The asterisk is 1.4.20 build from the ports with codec negotiation disable Hope you have an idea now ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Thomas Mullins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software > are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be > greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD iridium.xxx.com 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ps auxww| grep asterisk|grep -v grep root 439 0.0 8.4 39396 32312 ?? Ss4Jun08 63:35.57 /usr/local/sbin/asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pkg_info |grep asterisk asterisk-1.2.9.1_1 An Open Source PBX and telephony toolkit Works reasonably well; I haven't updated to 1.4 yet because this is a production server for my company. We have a digium TDM13 in there (3 inbound POTS, 1 outbound phone) + several VoIP providers (IAX) + a hand-hacked callplan. > Shane //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
Hi Thomas, Thomas Mullins wrote: Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be greatly appreciated. I have here asterisk (from the port) running with 2 ISDN cards (HFC) using ISDN4BSD with capi. The computer makes the connections from external ISDN, SIP, IAX2 <-> internal ISDN, SIP, IAX2. Works for more then 2 years absolutly stable. Best regards, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
if you want to suffer alot of pain on an incomplete system you could go people often pay for using such shortcuts. but that case is special - they could end up paying REAL MONEY. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software yes are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be ports/net/asterisk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
if you want to suffer alot of pain on an incomplete system you could go this way, id still build my own from ports On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:43 +0200, Johan Hendriks wrote: > >Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software > >are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would > be > >greatly appreciated. > > >Shane > > Also you can try the following > > http://www.askozia.com/ > > based on FreeBSD > working almost out of the box! > > Regards, > Johan > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
>Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software >are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be >greatly appreciated. >Shane Also you can try the following http://www.askozia.com/ based on FreeBSD working almost out of the box! Regards, Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD as VOIP PBX
Yes FreeBSD 7 Asterisk Asterisk-GUI both from ports On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 07:49 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote: > Is anyone using FreeBSD for their VOIP PBX needs? If so, what software > are you using? And any recommendations for software to look at would be > greatly appreciated. > > > > Shane > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"