Re: Tape backup / Bizzare Device Question

2006-05-12 Thread Greg Putrich
Hi Graham,

Not sure about the first part, but the device is called a radiometer. 

http://radiometer.hobbytron.com/Radiometer.html
http://science.howstuffworks.com/question239.htm

   Greg



Graham Bentley said:
 Is there a way to create a hdd resore solution with 
 set of boot floppies that will support my tape drive
 access the tape and restore the entire hard disc in
 case of disc failure disaster ? ie So I could install 
 a new disc and be up and running without doing any
 additional admin? I guess like a 'ghost' for scsi tape ?
 
 Any advice / links etc apperciated.
 
 Also 
 
 Description: Glass bulb, similar to light bulb but with 
 narrow end flared at bootom so it standsup. Inside, 
 a rotating wire device that has 4 squares of card like 
 material attached, like vanes. 
 
 One one side they are black on the other they are white. 
 When the sun shines brightly enough, the white side reflects 
 the light energy and the black side absorbs it. The vanes 
 spin around. 
 
 This does exist and has a name and I know there are 
 some very knowledgeable people on this list who will 
 know.
 
 Whats it called. please !!!
 
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Re: Tape backup / Bizzare Device Question

2006-05-12 Thread Atom Powers

Graham Bentley said:
 Is there a way to create a hdd resore solution with
 set of boot floppies that will support my tape drive
 access the tape and restore the entire hard disc in
 case of disc failure disaster ? ie So I could install
 a new disc and be up and running without doing any
 additional admin? I guess like a 'ghost' for scsi tape ?

 Any advice / links etc apperciated.


Look at Bacula.
http://www.bacula.org/

Although I haven't bothered to create a restore boot-cd yet, my
restore procedure doesn't require it, I believe I saw documentation
about it somewhere in there.

Plus it's a fine backup/restore application.

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Re: Tape backup / Bizzare Device Question

2006-03-07 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:09:40PM -, Graham Bentley wrote:
 
 Description: Glass bulb, similar to light bulb but with 
 narrow end flared at bootom so it standsup. Inside, 
 a rotating wire device that has 4 squares of card like 
 material attached, like vanes. 
 
 One one side they are black on the other they are white. 
 When the sun shines brightly enough, the white side reflects 
 the light energy and the black side absorbs it. The vanes 
 spin around. 
 
 This does exist and has a name and I know there are 
 some very knowledgeable people on this list who will 
 know.

It's called a radiometer.  I've seen them called other things, like a
lightmill or a light gauge.


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Re: Tape backup / Bizzare Device Question

2006-03-07 Thread DAve

Graham Bentley wrote:
Is there a way to create a hdd resore solution with 
set of boot floppies that will support my tape drive

access the tape and restore the entire hard disc in
case of disc failure disaster ? ie So I could install 
a new disc and be up and running without doing any

additional admin? I guess like a 'ghost' for scsi tape ?

Any advice / links etc apperciated.



Bacula will do what you want.


Also 

Description: Glass bulb, similar to light bulb but with 
narrow end flared at bootom so it standsup. Inside, 
a rotating wire device that has 4 squares of card like 
material attached, like vanes. 

One one side they are black on the other they are white. 
When the sun shines brightly enough, the white side reflects 
the light energy and the black side absorbs it. The vanes 
spin around. 

This does exist and has a name and I know there are 
some very knowledgeable people on this list who will 
know.


Whats it called. please !!!


A lightmill or Radiometer.

DAve


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Re: Tape backup solution? [OT]

2003-12-31 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 31), Eric F Crist said:
 I have a question that's slightly off-topic, but not.  I install
 high-end surveillance equipment for CCTV and such.  I have a rather
 large client in Minneapolis who's using Dedicated Micros digital
 video recorders.  The particular model we're using has a 500 GB hdd,
 but this client would like to archive images to tape for longer
 storage.  As of now, we're only getting about 2 months of recording
 time.  For off-site viewing, this unit can off-load images to a SCSI
 cd recorder.  Does anyone suggest a tape backup device that would be
 SCSI and external, with a fairly high-capacity?  I'm thinking around
 50 GB?

I can't find a good web page to refer you to, but here's a quick
summary of what's available.  Capacity and transfer rate are native; if
your data is 2:1 compressible, double both columns.

Drive   Capacity  Xfer rate
(GB)  (MB/Sec)

DLT 406
sDLT110-300   11-36
LTO 100   15
LTO2200   30
AIT3100   12
SAIT1   500   30



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Re: Tape backup using a OnStream SC-30

2003-06-04 Thread Jens Rehsack
On 6/4/2003 12:33 PM, Mark Pearce wrote:
 Hi

Hi Mark,

 I am having trouble trying to backup data using an OnStream ADR drive.
 I have read the dump, sa, sr, tar man pages and have googled as well,
 but am still having no joy.
 
 I have the following results:
 
 dmesg:
 sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
 sa0: OnStream SC-30 1.05 Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device
 sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 7)
 
 
 camcontrol devlist -v:
 scbus0 on ahc0 bus 0:
 OnStream SC-30 1.05  at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass0,sa0)
  at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 ()
 scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0:
  at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0)
 
 
 
 [09:38 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /data1 | gzip -2 |dd
 of=/dev/sa0
 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Jun  4 09:44:07
 2003
 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
 
 DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1h (/data1) to standard output
 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
 dd: /dev/sa0: Invalid argument
 
 [09:56 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# tar c /data1
 tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Invalid argument
 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
 
 
 I am at my wits end, I seriously need to get this backup working.  I
 have found some reports that the SCSI adaptor, using the aha78xx driver
 coupled with this OnStream drive might be incompatable.
 
 Either that or I am doing something wrong, please help.

No, you don't do sth. wrong. Onstream did but didn't tell it it's
customers before the buy. The produced streamers with an SCSI interface
but didn't respect the SCSI streaming access commands, but implement an
own command set.

You can do some things to get it work:
1) Port the linux driver to FreeBSD
2) Use vmware to run either linux or windows which may grant access
3) Use another streamer
4) Use another backup medium. just like cdr

Jens

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Re: Tape backup using a OnStream SC-30

2003-06-04 Thread Jens Rehsack
On 6/4/2003 12:47 PM, Mark Pearce wrote:
 Hi Jens

Hi Mark,

 Thanks for your reply.  Do you have any idea what tape drives are best
 for the FreeBSD platform as I have no intention to changing my clients
 server to Linux.  I know there are almost none listed on the hardware
 lists.

At first: Please ever send at least a carbon copy to the list you've
asked first. This have 2 reasons:
1) The list is archived and any later similar question could easily
   be answered by searching the archives.
2) The replyer may not be able to help you further than (s)he already
   did.

Second: Sorry, I don't know. Nearly every big manufacturer should do.
The new onstream streamer, for example, do. But I'm disappointed by
onstream, so if I were you, I would use another manufacturer, eg. IBM,
HP, ...
Searching the archives or ask google may help.

 Thanks
 
 Mark

Regards,
Jens

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Re: Tape Backup

2002-12-20 Thread Irwan Hadi
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:33:11AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:

 If your usage justifies the cost, you might want to consider DLT
 or LTO type drives.   They handle the load with less failure and 
 higher capacity and data rates.

I'm using Sony AIT-2 and it works great. The benefit of using AIT is
that you don't need to clean your tape drive at all, and it also in a
continuous development with AIT-3 has been launched (100/200 capacity).


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Re: Tape Backup

2002-12-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:33:11AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
  If your usage justifies the cost, you might want to consider DLT
  or LTO type drives.   They handle the load with less failure and 
  higher capacity and data rates.
 
 I'm using Sony AIT-2 and it works great. The benefit of using AIT is
 that you don't need to clean your tape drive at all, and it also in a
 continuous development with AIT-3 has been launched (100/200 capacity).

Yah, we have several AIT systems here too and are having pretty good
luck with them too - though, I can't support the NEVER have to clean
the tape drive.  Rarely, yes, but Never, no.

jerry


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Re: Tape Backup

2002-12-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I am running Freebsd 4.6 and my dds-2 tape backup drive just died on me. 
 I am interested in moving up to a bigger capacity drive so does anyone 
 have any recommendations? I am not interested in anything high end, this 
 is just for my system at home. I was looking at the dds-3 drives, but 
 before i went out and bought one, I would like opinions and or 
 recommendations. Thanks in advance.

We have DDS-3 drives on a number of systems and mostly they work well.

We have a couple of systems that cannot be written/read with dd or cp
which causes us a problem and we haven't discovered a reason yet.  Those
are all on Dell systems, but I don't remember the drive model[s]/maker[s]
at the moment.  Interestingly enough, tar will still write/read them.

Besides that problem, keep in mind that DAT, though a nice format
for light duty work, doesn't seem to be designed to handle really
heavy demand work - nearly 24/7 backup work of multiple systems or
whatever.

jerry

 
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RE: Tape Backup

2002-12-16 Thread Brian McCann
I've never ran one on FreeBSD, but I've used several DDS-3 drives of all
kinds of flavors.  I've had some problems with some Seagate ones, but
aside from that, I've had no problems.  The only thing I'd keep in mind,
and that I've experienced is that the DDS-3 tapes are not designed for
heavy use.  From what I've done, using 5 tapes a week, one a day, I end
up throwing the tapes out (after destroying them) after about 4-6
months...which is fairly average from what I've heard.  Also, a cleaning
tape, though I never believed it till I saw  used it, increased the
life of the tapes slightly, and I assume it also extends the life of the
drive...but I've never seen one croak, so I don't know.

Hope I helped,
--Brian

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Subject: Tape Backup


I am running Freebsd 4.6 and my dds-2 tape backup drive just died on me.
I am interested in moving up to a bigger capacity drive so does anyone
have any recommendations? I am not interested in anything high end, this
is just for my system at home. I was looking at the dds-3 drives, but
before i went out and bought one, I would like opinions and or
recommendations. Thanks in advance.

-- 
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Re: Tape Backup

2002-12-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I've never ran one on FreeBSD, but I've used several DDS-3 drives of all
 kinds of flavors.  I've had some problems with some Seagate ones, but
 aside from that, I've had no problems.  The only thing I'd keep in mind,
 and that I've experienced is that the DDS-3 tapes are not designed for
 heavy use.  From what I've done, using 5 tapes a week, one a day, I end
 up throwing the tapes out (after destroying them) after about 4-6
 months...which is fairly average from what I've heard.  Also, a cleaning
 tape, though I never believed it till I saw  used it, increased the
 life of the tapes slightly, and I assume it also extends the life of the
 drive...but I've never seen one croak, so I don't know.

Your experience sounds about like ours.  I think we get just a little more
average life out of a cassette than you indicate, but not a large amount.
Actually, we've used some DDS-4 too with pretty much similar results.

One thing though,  the cleaning tape may increase the life of tapes, but
frequent use can reduce the life of a drive.  The cleaning tapes can
cause increased head wear.  We recommend only using them when really 
needed - write errors show up - and not on a regularly scheduled basis.
But, this is true of DDS-2 and even original DAT.  Keeping your drive
and storage environment clean and as free of dust as possible is a more
important thing to improve tape and drive longevity, I think.

If your usage justifies the cost, you might want to consider DLT
or LTO type drives.   They handle the load with less failure and 
higher capacity and data rates.

jerry

 
 Hope I helped,
 --Brian
 
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 Subject: Tape Backup
 
 I am running Freebsd 4.6 and my dds-2 tape backup drive just died on me.
 I am interested in moving up to a bigger capacity drive so does anyone
 have any recommendations? I am not interested in anything high end, this
 is just for my system at home. I was looking at the dds-3 drives, but
 before i went out and bought one, I would like opinions and or
 recommendations. Thanks in advance.
 
 -- 
 Peter Erickson

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