Re: 7.0 and 6.3
Hi Kris, On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 09:17 +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: > > Bill Moran wrote: > >> Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. > > > > What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered > > the > > standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to > > upgrade to one over the other? > > 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update > to the new branch yet. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf I'll be loving 7.0-RELEASE. Good job! -- "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse." -- Michael Corleone, "Chapter 27", page 382 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:59:01 -0700 Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? portupgrade -afO Personally I prefer portupgrade -f '<2007-10-25 11:00' since it's restartable. You don't have to throw the -O flag in there to keep various ports from complaining? The point of -O is to have portupgrade save a few seconds by omitting sanity-checking if pkgdb has already been run. It's not intended for hiding problems. Okay, I'll buy that. I just tried it, and it worked. I distinctly remember a port (mailscanner-mrtg, but there are others) who choked on the fact that Apache1.3 isn't the same thing as Apache2.2 until I fed it the O flag... -- Jay Chandler / KB1JWQ Living Legend / Systems Exorcist Today's Excuse: Melting hard drives ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:59:01 -0700 Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RW wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 > > Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Johan Andersson wrote: > >>> On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>> Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? > >> portupgrade -afO > >> > > > > Personally I prefer > > > > portupgrade -f '<2007-10-25 11:00' > > > > since it's restartable. > > You don't have to throw the -O flag in there to keep various ports > from complaining? The point of -O is to have portupgrade save a few seconds by omitting sanity-checking if pkgdb has already been run. It's not intended for hiding problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
RW wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? portupgrade -afO Personally I prefer portupgrade -f '<2007-10-25 11:00' since it's restartable. You don't have to throw the -O flag in there to keep various ports from complaining? -- Jay Chandler / KB1JWQ Living Legend / Systems Exorcist Today's Excuse: Melting hard drives ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0700 Jay Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johan Andersson wrote: > > On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? > > portupgrade -afO > Personally I prefer portupgrade -f '<2007-10-25 11:00' since it's restartable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
Johan Andersson wrote: On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? portupgrade -afO -- Jay Chandler / KB1JWQ Living Legend / Systems Exorcist Today's Excuse: Melting hard drives ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
On 10/25/2007 11:47 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Jay Chandler wrote: >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: > Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 > release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? >>> >>> 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot >>> update to the new branch yet. >>> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> ___ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> Fascinating! >> >> I have to ask, is there a straightforward upgrad path from 6.2 to >> 7.0, or is it largely going to be a matter of "back up, blow it away, >> and install cleanly before restoring data?" > > It should be completely straightforward. The only thing to remember > is (as with every upgrade between different branches) is to rebuild > all of your installed ports so you don't cause problems with > subsequent port upgrades. > > Kris > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Any good oneliner for rebuild all the ports that you recommend? //Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
Jay Chandler wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update to the new branch yet. http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Fascinating! I have to ask, is there a straightforward upgrad path from 6.2 to 7.0, or is it largely going to be a matter of "back up, blow it away, and install cleanly before restoring data?" It should be completely straightforward. The only thing to remember is (as with every upgrade between different branches) is to rebuild all of your installed ports so you don't cause problems with subsequent port upgrades. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update to the new branch yet. http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Fascinating! I have to ask, is there a straightforward upgrad path from 6.2 to 7.0, or is it largely going to be a matter of "back up, blow it away, and install cleanly before restoring data?" -- Jay Chandler / KB1JWQ Living Legend / Systems Exorcist Today's Excuse: Melting hard drives ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:00:37AM +0100, Vince wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > David J Brooks wrote: > >> Bill Moran wrote: > >>> Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. > >> > >> What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be > >> considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a > >> compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? > > > > 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update > > to the new branch yet. > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf > > I just got a chance to read through this.WOW! I am impressed! jerry > > Great presentation! Is this linked to from anywhere on the FreeBSD site > or the wiki? It definitely deserves more widespread distribution. > > Vince > > > Kris > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 02:17:12 am Kris Kennaway wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: > > Bill Moran wrote: > >> Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. > > > > What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered > > the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason > > to upgrade to one over the other? > > 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update > to the new branch yet. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Wow! That's a really thorough answer. Thanks Kris! David -- The second best policy is dishonesty. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
Vince wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update to the new branch yet. http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Great presentation! Is this linked to from anywhere on the FreeBSD site or the wiki? It definitely deserves more widespread distribution. Vince Thanks! It hasnt yet been promoted much because it is quite new (presented at BSDCON-Tr in Istanbul last Friday). We'll definitely be giving it more publicity though. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
Kris Kennaway wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: >> Bill Moran wrote: >>> Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. >> >> What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be >> considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a >> compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? > > 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update > to the new branch yet. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf > Great presentation! Is this linked to from anywhere on the FreeBSD site or the wiki? It definitely deserves more widespread distribution. Vince > Kris > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:17:12 +0200 Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > David J Brooks wrote: > > Bill Moran wrote: > >> Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. > > > > What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered > > the > > standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to > > upgrade to one over the other? > > 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update > to the new branch yet. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Very nice at 2x. I particularly enjoyed pp 17 & 18 .. Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 7.0 and 6.3
David J Brooks wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Note also that a ports freeze is starting soon for 7.0 and 6.3 release. What are the differences between 6.3 and 7.0? Which should be considered the standard upgrade path from 6.2 release? Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to one over the other? 7.0 is the recommended choice; 6.3 is only for people who cannot update to the new branch yet. http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
