Re: external hard drive for mobile pc
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 07:55:20PM -0800, Eric LaVoie wrote: > Will FreeBSD work if I install it on an external hard drive, connected to a > mobile PC via USB or FireWire, as a partition ( the two partitions being the > mobile PC's internal Hardrive and this external hard drive which I am asking > about.)? > If the answer is yes: can you provide me with links to some documentation > covering how I would create the partition on the external hard drive ( this > partition would cover as much of this drive as possible with the internal one > being used for Windows Vista.); and how I can burn bootable DVD-RWs from the > .iso image files of FreeBSD which I downloaded from your site? > Thank-you for your time, > Eric Well, I have an external USB drive on my deskside machine and I don't see how it should be different for a mobile one, except you might not want to always carry the external drive with you. So, you will want to 'noauto' it in fstab, so it doesn't always try to mount it at boot time. Then you can mount it manually when you need it. You will most likely have to have it plugged in at boot time if you want to use it so the system knows to make a device for it. The process of creating slices and partitions/filesystems on an external drive are exactly the same as doing it on an internal drive. You should be able to use either fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs or have sysinstall do it for you. I had some trouble because the drive I had was larger than the slice size limit those things would handle on V 6.1 which I was using on that machine then. So, I had to use gparted to create 3 slices. Then I was able to do it in a standard manner - just as described in the handbook for adding drives and in numerous posts to the list - I have made several - and some FAQs in online publications. So, just a little searching for adding a disk will get you what you need. Remember, that in FreeBSD, primary divisions of the disk are called 'slices' and slices can be subdivided in to 'partitions'. Microsloth mangles those so that primary divisions are called primary partitions and subdivisions are called extended partitions but their extended partitions are not compatible with UNIX, although there are UNIX ways of talking to them. jerry > __ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: external hard drive
I re-installed the system last night. Weather was bad and I decided to close work down early. I got to thinking about it, and simply did a search for "da*" in the device directory. It came up with "da0" and "da0s1". "da0" produces errors. "da0s1" loaded my Buslink external HD fine. Problem solved for that drive. The small drive enclosure is a different matter The computer lights the power light up on the case, and causes the drive to make that ticking noise. But if I do a hotplug, I don't get any notices the way that I do with the Buslink HD. I'm beginning to think that I may have been mistaken about FreeBSD seeing this drive last spring. It doesn't appear to see it now. Or, else it sees it as something different. Lloyd Hayes Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: external hard drive
I just tried putting vfat in the fstab for file type having just the Buslink drive connected, not the small drive enclosure. Using mount -a, I got "Inappropriate file type or format" I'm logged in as root. I am beginning to suspect that I installed too much software during this Install. It is being picked up, but I don't know how it's being interpreted. I'm beginning to think that FBSD thinks it's a clock. (Tic-Toc.) Anyway, I just realized that I installed more software this time, then at any previous time. I posted my dmesg, fstab, and rc.conf files earlier. I think that I may have over done it and created a conflict somewhere. I think that I'll give this a rest, then simply wipe the disk and re-install everything when I get time again. As far as external drives goes, the Buslink 40 GB hard drive seems to be extremely good. It stands up to being turned on 24 hours per day and 7 days per week while bouncing around in my truck on a wood shelf. (It's about 3 or 4 years old. Possibly older.) Usually, all of the systems can find this drive. But drive closures for old hard drives, this one that I have from CompUSA seems to do a good job. It comes with a leather case to fasten to my belt, if I wanted it there. I mentioned the problems with Win 98SE. (Conflict between USB CD ROM and this drive.) None of the Linux distros that I've tried could see it. (Slackware, Debian, Red Hat 9, Fedora 2, SUSE Live CD, Knoppix.) The only UNIX system that could use it was FreeBSD, and that was when I had FreeBSD installed last Spring. This drive has one of those special USB connection cables which are used on some cameras and small devices. USB on computer end and a very small plug on the hard drive end. The cable wears out every every once in a while. If you get on, get an extra cable. (Note: Right now, the cable seems to work OK when I hook it into my Toshiba laptop, which runs Win XP. So, I don't think that I have a problem with the cable.) This will go out the next time that I hook into the Internet. Messages will probably cross... Lloyd Hayes Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 dave wrote: Hi, Thanks for confirmation that that drive should work for me. I am considering also getting a comp usa enclossure and i like the idea that anything will pick it up. Anyway, for your mount line try vfat as the fs type and check with dmesg -a to see if that drive showed up on boot. If it's usb make sure usbd is enabled in rc.conf. HTH Dave. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: External Hard drive
On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 00:01, Lloyd Hayes wrote: > The information which you requested is at the bottom. dmesg, fstab, and > rc.conf. > While the 'dmesg' refers to a printer, I haven't hooked one up to this > system yet. I figured that I would deal with one problem at a time. So > far, none of the UNIX type systems has liked much of my equipment, and I > have a lot more to add to it The "lpt0: on ppbus0" is nothing to worry about, the system does *not* think you have a printer attached. It thinks you have a parallel port and created the associated printer port (in software). > But I attribute that to my own lack of > knowledge on UNIX type systems, and on networking in general. > FreeBSD seems to be very difficult for me to learn, but I also think > that it may be the way to go, too. The FreeBSD Handbook should be able to help with that. > uhci0: port 0xfce0-0xfcff irq > 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub1: Genesys Logic USB Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.01/0.12, addr 2 > uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, bus powered > ohci0: mem 0x88002000-0x88002fff irq 10 at > device 0.0 on cardbus1 > usb1: OHCI version 1.0 > GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc2a55360 > ad0: 6194MB [13424/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 > acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 > usb1: on ohci0 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=1000 > ohci1: mem 0x88003000-0x88003fff irq 10 at > device 0.1 on cardbus1 > usb2: OHCI version 1.0 > usb2: on ohci1 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub3: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > umass0: Buslink USB 2.0 Hard Drive, rev 2.00/11.00, addr 2 Here is your hard drive. > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=100 > cardbus1: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) > GEOM: create disk da0 dp=0xc2be6050 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 38204MB (78242976 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4870C) Here is the drive being created and to be accessible as a disk in the system. > umass1: Acer Labs USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.03, addr 2 Here is your cdrom. > GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc2ae6600 > cd0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: < COMBO-52X16C 1.83> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present > - tray closed > Running usbdevs as root will show exactly what usb devices the system knows about (that are currently connected). You should expect to see a lot of usb hubs along with the hard drive and cdrom. > fstab: > # DeviceMountpointFStypeOptionsDumpPass# > /dev/ad0s1bnoneswapsw00 > /dev/ad0s1a/ufsrw11 > /dev/ad0s1e/tmpufsrw22 > /dev/ad0s1f/usrufsrw22 > /dev/ad0s1d/varufsrw22 > /dev/cd0/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00 > /dev/acd0/cdrom1cd9660ro,noauto00 > /dev/da0/usb0 msdos noauto 0 0 The line for /dev/da0 should have ro,noauto or rw,noauto for the Options column. > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > svr4_enable="YES" > linux_enable="YES" > ibcs2_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > lpd_enable="YES" > moused_enable="YES" > named_enable="YES" > apm_enable="YES" > exim_enable="YES" > sendmail_enable="NONE" > router_flags="-q" > router="/sbin/routed" > router_enable="YES" > rpcbind_enable="YES" > rpc_statd_enable="YES" > rpc_lockd_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > rwhod_enable="YES" > inetd_enable="YES" > ipv6_enable="YES" > start_vinum="yes" > hostname="traveler2.hayes.org" There are a lot of sysinstall generated comments that you don't need in your rc.conf file. Also, you have a lot of network server daemons running and no ip assignment in sight. A look back at your dmesg shows you don't have any network ports that were found by the system. Then again, you did say that you were testing the system, so I guess you're testing the configurations on the loop back device. -- Jeremy Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: External Hard drive
The information which you requested is at the bottom. dmesg, fstab, and rc.conf. While the 'dmesg' refers to a printer, I haven't hooked one up to this system yet. I figured that I would deal with one problem at a time. So far, none of the UNIX type systems has liked much of my equipment, and I have a lot more to add to it In reading your message, I see that I need to clear one point up. I've had version 5.0, 5.2, 5.2.1 and 5.3 of FreeBSD on this laptop. I have also had several versions of Linux on this laptop. It is a test computer for trying out various systems to see what will work for me. The systems installed were installed after the hard disk was re-formated and wiped clean. There was no remaining information on the hard drive. It was a completely clean install. (Note: If you remove the FreeBSD partitions, then simply re-create a FreeBSD partition system on the same drive, the information is still there on the hard drive. You can even read your old files. I wiped the drive before installing it by writing to every block on the hard drive between removing one and installing the next operating system. I have a couple of special programs which run from a floppy which do this.) I use computers all day, every day. I'm a truck driver. Computers are integrated into the trucking business. Trucking companies employ a vast number of IT professionals. In the last few years, drivers have had to learn about computers. I had a head start. In many communities and for several years now, truck drivers are the most numerous group of computer buyers. I need a computer in my truck everyday, and at home when I'm there, and I need them all day long. Computers that I can count on. Microsoft systems have never been real dependable. With the various viruses floating around, they have become even less dependable. I have been looking to see what I can replace the MS operating system with for daily usage. When I am satisfied, then that operating system will end up on several of my computers. But not until then. I haven't found any that I am satisfied with. But I attribute that to my own lack of knowledge on UNIX type systems, and on networking in general. Using this older backup computer is the way that I have chosen to figure this out. FreeBSD seems to be very difficult for me to learn, but I also think that it may be the way to go, too. Lloyd Hayes Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Jeremy Faulkner wrote: On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 17:15, Lloyd Hayes wrote: Yes, this drive works fine under windows XP. It has fat32 file system on it. When I had FBSD v5.2.1 on this computer several months ago and the system recognized it fine. But none of the Linux distros would recognize it. However, I realized last night that this installation of FBSD is not recognizing my 40 GB Buslink hard which all versions of UNIX has recognized, including FBSD when I had it on before. I use this drive all of the time. FBSD did recognize it during the installation process, but I hadn't looked at it since until last night. It also has a Fat32 format. I'm beginning that SSH is the problem. I did not have it installed before. Lloyd Hayes How could SSH possibly be the problem. If you had FreeBSD installed before and it saw the drive, which is my understanding from your previous email to the list, then you had SSH installed before because ssh has been in the base install for quite a while. You listed the symptoms of your problem and your interpretation of them, could you now post your dmesg, fstab and rc.conf to the list so we can actually help instead of just listen to you describe your problem? Dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 23 20:45:55 GMT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0a35000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc0a351f4. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium/P55C (quarter-micron) (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x581 Stepping = 1 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 234860544 (223 MB) avail memory = 218488832 (208 MB) Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 12 entries at 0xc00f6610 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib0: slot 2 INTA is routed to irq 10 pcib0: slot 7 INTD is routed to irq 10 pc
Re: External Hard drive
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 17:15, Lloyd Hayes wrote: > Yes, this drive works fine under windows XP. It has fat32 file system on it. > > When I had FBSD v5.2.1 on this computer several months ago and the > system recognized it fine. But none of the Linux distros would recognize it. > > However, I realized last night that this installation of FBSD is not > recognizing my 40 GB Buslink hard which all versions of UNIX has > recognized, including FBSD when I had it on before. I use this drive all > of the time. FBSD did recognize it during the installation process, but > I hadn't looked at it since until last night. It also has a Fat32 > format. I'm beginning that SSH is the problem. I did not have it > installed before. > > Lloyd Hayes How could SSH possibly be the problem. If you had FreeBSD installed before and it saw the drive, which is my understanding from your previous email to the list, then you had SSH installed before because ssh has been in the base install for quite a while. You listed the symptoms of your problem and your interpretation of them, could you now post your dmesg, fstab and rc.conf to the list so we can actually help instead of just listen to you describe your problem? -- Jeremy Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: external hard drive
Don't have a clue as to the type of drive. I bought it at CompUSA over a year ago. On the case, it simply says: USB2.0 2.5" slim It works fine under Win XP. It is an IBM hard drive within the case. But I realized last night that I am having similar problems with a 40 Buslink external hard drive, connect by USB plug, which I use all of the time. It did recognize it during the installation process, but I hadn't checked it again until last night. I posted this a minute ago, but I think the problem is the SSH program. This was the 1st time that I had it hooked up after installing the system. This is a drive that is usually recognized by any operating system, and was also recognized by FBSD when I had it installed before. (I know someone is going to say that I shouldn't have changed it) Maybe I am missing something here, or have forgotten something, or haven't read something. I have 3 FreeBSD books and have printed out the new online manual. I'm trying to mount it using: mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /usb0 I have the '/usb0' directory created in my '/' dir. I also have the following in my fstab: /dev/da0 /usb0 msdos noauto 0 0 I am getting an error from this line when I try using 'mount -a'. I'm trying to remember the error, but it referred to file system type. This drive is formated as a fat32 file system. Lloyd Hayes Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 dave wrote: Hello, Not sure of what is happening, it sounds like your drive is at least being seen because as you say something is working it. Have you tried booting in debug mode? What enclossure are you using for this drive? I am thinking about replacing mine, i got a sanmax or sandisk can't remember which the company was terible it died 3 months later and they won't go for it, pitiful service, so i was wondering in case i decide to replace it. Thanks. Dave. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: External Hard drive
Yes, this drive works fine under windows XP. It has fat32 file system on it. When I had FBSD v5.2.1 on this computer several months ago and the system recognized it fine. But none of the Linux distros would recognize it. However, I realized last night that this installation of FBSD is not recognizing my 40 GB Buslink hard which all versions of UNIX has recognized, including FBSD when I had it on before. I use this drive all of the time. FBSD did recognize it during the installation process, but I hadn't looked at it since until last night. It also has a Fat32 format. I'm beginning that SSH is the problem. I did not have it installed before. Lloyd Hayes Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Dick Davies wrote: * Lloyd Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1056 19:56]: I have been using this 6 year old laptop as a test bed for the different versions of Linux and FreeBSD. (The built-in CD ROM is almost worn out.) I just put v5.2.1 back on this laptop. It doesn't want to recognize this hard drive. I have checked the 'dmesg' and can't see any mention of this connection. I can connect and disconnect this drive while the system is running and not get any messages. I have ssh running and it is obviously doing something to the drive since I hear the drive clicking on/off. In fact, it sounds like a clock. (I am constantly getting messages from ssh.) Drive has died? Can you see it under winders? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: External Hard drive
* Lloyd Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1056 19:56]: > I have been using this 6 year old laptop as a test bed for the different > versions of Linux and FreeBSD. (The built-in CD ROM is almost worn out.) > I just put v5.2.1 back on this laptop. It doesn't want to recognize this > hard drive. I have checked the 'dmesg' and can't see any mention of this > connection. I can connect and disconnect this drive while the system is > running and not get any messages. I have ssh running and it is obviously > doing something to the drive since I hear the drive clicking on/off. In > fact, it sounds like a clock. (I am constantly getting messages from ssh.) Drive has died? Can you see it under winders? -- Bender, Ship, stop arguing or I'll come back there and change your opinions manually. - Leela Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
