Re: Filename containing French characters ?
OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console \BUT ... It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! ) here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that contains those bloody characters 82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] GET /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1 404 1337 The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute ) apache is unable to open that filename On 05/24/2011 06:44 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: Thanks that is working :-) Now I have to test the application ( apache based application ) to see if it is able to open the file. I'll tell in few hours when arrived to my office Le 23/05/2011 17:50, Modulok a écrit : Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt': ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt Long answer, for those who want to follow along and fix their terminal to display UTF-8, keep reading... Step 1: Make a funky file to play along with this min-tutorial: === Create a text file with an editor that supports non-ASCII characters. I created a file named 'filename' which containing this (no newline!): à fichier.txt Step 2: Create the actual file with content === I used echo and cat like so in the tcsh shell: echo hello world `cat filename` Step 3: Show the file in ls === As you can see below, the first character of the filename is displayed as two question marks. This is the terminal's way of showing filenames that it cannot display correctly. There are two question marks, because this is a two-byte character. This does *not* mean the filename starts with a literal question mark: -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt Step 4: (optional) Fix the terminal === At this point, let's just fix the terminal so that UTF-8 characters are displayed correctly. We want to see the French accented 'à', and not a bunch of question marks. To do this, you edit '/etc/login.conf' as root. Add two lines at the bottom of the 'default' section. My default section now looks like this: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ ...and so on... :charset=en_US.UTF-8:\ :lang=en_US.UTF-8: If you're a French operation yours should probably look like this instead: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ ...and so on... :charset=fr_FR.UTF-8:\ :lang=fr_FR.UTF-8: I'm not certain on these for all countries, but the above examples work. We then need to rebuild the actual login database. Execute the following command as root: cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf This generates /etc/login.conf.db from /etc/login.conf. Now log out and then back in! Step 5: Back to the funky file == You should now see the actual accent characters correctly in the terminal. (Assuming your terminal supports this): -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 à fichier.txt In some ternimals, we cannot type these characters. So you can access the filename through a shell glob pattern. In most shells, the glob pattern '?' matches any single character. The forward slash escapes the space in the filename. mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt Hope this helps (and doesn't get too mangled.) -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Frank BONNET 01.45.92.66.17 Service des Moyens Informatiques Generaux ESIEE PARIS Cité Descartes / BP 99 93162 NOISY-LE-GRAND Cedex http://www.esiee.fr http://www.esiee.fr/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue May 24 02:32:36 2011
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:32:20 +0200
From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ?
OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
\BUT ...
It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )
here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that contains
those bloody characters
82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] GET
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony
%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1 404 1337
The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )
Please show the output of
ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA*
and
ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA* \
| od -xc
And, also with {DOCROOT} (whatever it is) prepended to the paths shown above.
*AlSO* show your apache configuration file -- especially what 'DOCROOT' is.
Lastly, do you have _any_ path-rewriting rules that might result in a
different _actual_ path than the 'requested' one? Virtually =every- Apache
installation has at least one such rewrite rule.
Please show _all_ such rules/transformations.
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Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On 05/24/2011 10:01 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue May 24 02:32:36 2011
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:32:20 +0200
From: Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ?
OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
\BUT ...
It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )
here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that contains
those bloody characters
82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] GET
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony
%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1 404 1337
The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )
Please show the output of
ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA*
ls -lb 11_EM1_SI_AMI*
ls: No match
and
ls -lb /cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA* \
| od -xc
ls -lb
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA* | od -xl
ls: No match.
ls -lb in the directory give that :
-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 18294 24 mai 03:00
11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony Aim\351e Marthe Moteh.docx
but wildcards fails as you can see in preceding lines.
And, also with {DOCROOT} (whatever it is) prepended to the paths shown above.
DOCROOT is OK all files that does not contains accentuated characters
are well opened and displayed in web pages.
*AlSO* show your apache configuration file -- especially what 'DOCROOT' is.
Lastly, do you have _any_ path-rewriting rules that might result in a
different _actual_ path than the 'requested' one? Virtually =every- Apache
installation has at least one such rewrite rule.
no rewriting rules a all
Please show _all_ such rules/transformations.
--
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01.45.92.66.17
Service des Moyens Informatiques Generaux
ESIEE PARIS
Cité Descartes / BP 99
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Re: Filename containing French Characters
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:28:02 +0200
From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr
Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On 05/24/2011 10:01 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue May 24 02:32:36 2011
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:32:20 +0200 From: Frank
Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject:
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
OK now the filenames are well displayed in the console
\BUT ...
It still does not work with apache ( 404 file not found ! )
here is the log of apache when trying to access a filename that
contains those bloody characters
82.238.8.126 - - [24/May/2011:06:56:01 +0200] GET
/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Ant=
hony
%20Aim%C3%A9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx HTTP/1.1 404 1337
The problem comes from the %C3%A9e character ( e eacute )
Not surprising, there is _no_ %C3%A9e character in the file name. grin
ls -lb in the directory give that :
-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 18294 24 mai 03:00
11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony Aim\351e Marthe Moteh.docx
but wildcards fails
Ah so.
There is an 'unfortunate' line-break in the ls output you show. This may
be *VERY* significant. IF what is shown above _is_ *exactly* how the output
appears, then there is a '[NL]' as the first character of the filename. In
_that_ case, putting a '?' or '*' on the front of the wildcard string
_should_ expand to the actual file nam. That is, ls -lb ?11_EM2* should
succeed.
OTOH, *IF* the ls -lb output appears as one long line, please check the
output _carefully_, and report _how_many_spaces_ between the last digit of
the timestamp, and the fist 'visible' character of the file name. Check
that count against a file name that you _can_ wild-card. (I've got a nasty
suspicion that there is a _space_ or other 'non-printing' character as the
first character of the filename.)
*IF* none of the above applies, then (and ONLY then) the following applies:
1) try fetching the URL:
http://{{server}}/cv/ESIEE_MANAGEMENT/Systeme_information/11_EM2_SI_JUIN_CV_AMICHIA_Anthony%20Aim%E9e%20Marthe%20Moteh.docx
2) NOTE: filename 'globbing' (what you call 'wildcards') failing to match
that filename *is* a genuine bug as regards whatever shell you are
using, and you SHOULD file a formal bug report (aka PR) on that issue.
3) For completeness, try the 'ls -lb 11*' command, while in the data
directory, under 'sh', 'tcsh', 'ksh', 'zsh', =and= 'bash'. file a bug
report for every shell where the wildcard expansion fails.
For the bug report, Include the output generated by script(1), showing
the 'ls -lb' of the entire directory, _and_ the attempt to use a
wildcard match. Do _NOT_ edit that script log file in any way.
the ideal sequence is:
1) invoke script(1).
2) invoke the shell being tested.
3) cd(1) to the relevant directory
4) execute 'ls -lb'
5) execute 'ls -lb 11*
6) exit the shell under test.
7) exit scriot(1)
8) save the 'typescript' file under an appropriate name.
repeat for each shell tested.
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Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt': (...) Very good hints indeed. I once had a directory full of files with strange characters, so I wrote a little program that replaced every non-ascii char in a filename with its hex-encoding (like this: Hello%20World%21, % escape char), so I could manipulate them with the shell. As long as the expanded filenames didn't hit the MAXNAMELEN limit in sys/dirent.h, it worked perfectly. I could dig this C program out of old archives, but I guess that it is faster to rewrite it on the fly, or even script it with sh(1), tr(1), awk(1), and find(1)... ;-) Alternatively to such a run-once-in-a-while program, I could also imagine a file system layer on top of existing file systems that would do this conversion automatically, but that's harder to code, and harder to debug (kernel mode!). -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
finally one of our developer has written a php function that transcode all accentuated characters to the corresponding non accentuated thanks to her !!! but the problem is NOT solved just workarrounded Le 24/05/2011 19:53, C. P. Ghost a écrit : On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Modulokmodu...@gmail.com wrote: Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt': (...) Very good hints indeed. I once had a directory full of files with strange characters, so I wrote a little program that replaced every non-ascii char in a filename with its hex-encoding (like this: Hello%20World%21, % escape char), so I could manipulate them with the shell. As long as the expanded filenames didn't hit the MAXNAMELEN limit insys/dirent.h, it worked perfectly. I could dig this C program out of old archives, but I guess that it is faster to rewrite it on the fly, or even script it with sh(1), tr(1), awk(1), and find(1)... ;-) Alternatively to such a run-once-in-a-while program, I could also imagine a file system layer on top of existing file systems that would do this conversion automatically, but that's harder to code, and harder to debug (kernel mode!). -cpghost. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On May 24, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: finally one of our developer has written a php function that transcode all accentuated characters to the corresponding non accentuated thanks to her !!! but the problem is NOT solved just workarrounded Sure. FreeBSD's default filesystem supports UTF8, but not arbitrary composition of Unicode characters. If you want this to work better, you need to make sure that you use normalized UTF8 filenames and UTF8 URLs from Apache. It's likely that a discussion of Unicode normalization would be helpful: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr15/index.html IBM's ICU (at http://site.icu-project.org/), or Apple's discussion of HFS normalization (Unicode Normal Forms D, at http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa2001/qa1235.html) would also be informative. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun May 22 10:02:02 2011 From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Filename containing French characters ? Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? insufficient data for a meaningful answer.. It depends on what kind of a filesysem the file in question is located on. It depends on how filenames are represented in that filesystem. It depends on the drivers, or userland utilities being used to access that filesystem. It depends on whether or not what _you_ think the name of the file is, when the filesystem is accessed by FreeBSD, and what the O/S thinks the filename is. *YOU* have to use 'what the O/S *thinks* the filename is', to succeed. First things first, do a directory listing of the filesystem, and *see* what FreeBSD thinks the name of the file is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun May 22 23:56:05 2011 Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 06:54:44 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ? Le 22/05/2011 17:31, Mike Jeays a ecrit : On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks Envoye de mon iPhone___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. Access right are OK ( 644 ) the completion does not work, the operating system says file not found when I try to open it with any program. when I type the ls -l command the file is displayed with a ? in place of the French (accentuated ) character I tried UTF8 or iso8859-1 as MM-CHARSET and fr_FR.ISO8859-1 as LANG global variables but it still don-t work ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 06:54:44 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ? Le 22/05/2011 17:31, Mike Jeays a ecrit : On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. Access right are OK ( 644 ) the completion does not work, the operating system says file not found when I try to open it with any program. when I type the ls -l command the file is displayed with a ? in place of the French (accentuated ) character I tried UTF8 or iso8859-1 as MM-CHARSET and fr_FR.ISO8859-1 as LANG global variables but it still don-t work The *easy* work-arouond -- it does -not- solve the real problem, but does let you work with the file -- is to rename the file. *Assuming* you are seeing the rest of the filename, _after_ the '?' character, then issue an 'mv' command, using the source file name _exactly_ as shown (i.e., _with_ the '?' in place of the unprintable character), and using a destination file name that is _without_ any accented characters in it. If that mv fails, try repeating it, but using an '*' instead of the '?'. Oh, there is one more situation that can cause the kind of problem you are seeing. Does the 'ls -l' show it as an _actual_ file, or a 'symlink' (to a file that does not exist)? A 'dangling symlink' can give all sorts of strange errors. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
Hi, What is the underlying filesystem ? NTFS, in particular, seems to have specific mount options to handle UTF-8 (and maybe other encodings) stuff. Not sure if they apply to your case, but it's worth trying. Matthieu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On 05/23/2011 03:08 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 06:54:44 +0200 From: Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filename containing French characters ? Le 22/05/2011 17:31, Mike Jeays a ecrit : On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. Access right are OK ( 644 ) the completion does not work, the operating system says file not found when I try to open it with any program. when I type the ls -l command the file is displayed with a ? in place of the French (accentuated ) character I tried UTF8 or iso8859-1 as MM-CHARSET and fr_FR.ISO8859-1 as LANG global variables but it still don-t work The *easy* work-arouond -- it does -not- solve the real problem, but does let you work with the file -- is to rename the file. Not easy the file is created by a software that extract it from a SQL database *Assuming* you are seeing the rest of the filename, _after_ the '?' character, then issue an 'mv' command, using the source file name _exactly_ as shown (i.e., _with_ the '?' in place of the unprintable character), and using a destination file name that is _without_ any accented characters in it. If that mv fails, try repeating it, but using an '*' instead of the '?'. Oh, there is one more situation that can cause the kind of problem you are seeing. Does the 'ls -l' show it as an _actual_ file, or a 'symlink' (to a file that does not exist)? A 'dangling symlink' can give all sorts of strange errors. no it is not a symlink it's a real file ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On 05/23/2011 03:46 PM, Matthieu Riviere wrote: Hi, What is the underlying filesystem ? NTFS, in particular, seems to have specific mount options to handle UTF-8 (and maybe other encodings) stuff. Not sure if they apply to your case, but it's worth trying. Matthieu the volume is NFS mounted ( to a netapp filer ) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On Mon, 23 May 2011 06:54:44 +0200, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: when I type the ls -l command the file is displayed with a ? in place of the French (accentuated ) character That's typical for console operations (text mode) when UTF-coded characters are encountered. The text mode console does not support UTF-8 and does display ? whenever it encounters a nonprintable character. I tried UTF8 or iso8859-1 as MM-CHARSET and fr_FR.ISO8859-1 as LANG global variables but it still don-t work Depending on what actual file system the file is located, you may need to define a translation mode (e. g. -C or -W in combination with mount_ntfs). You also have to make sure that if you change language settings, your console has to support it. As a german user, I can use german Umlauts and Eszett with the text mode console as I don't use UTF nonsense for that. For example, I have ttyv0 /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25l1 on secure up to ttyv7 /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25l1 on secure in /etc/ttys. For language settings, please see that FreeBSD does, next to $LANG, also use $LC_* variables. To use language-specific characters when running programs (less, mcedit, vi, anything that inputs or outputs file data), the following settings are made in /etc/csh.cshrc (my default shell, system-wide settings): setenv LC_ALL en_US.ISO8859-1 setenv LC_MESSAGES en_US.ISO8859-1 setenv LC_COLLATE de_DE.ISO8859-1 setenv LC_CTYPEde_DE.ISO8859-1 setenv LC_MONETARY de_DE.ISO8859-1 setenv LC_NUMERIC de_DE.ISO8859-1 setenv LC_TIME de_DE.ISO8859-1 This makes program messages being in English (preferred), but sets some conventions specific to Germany. I'm sure you can do something similar with the correct language settings and pages for French. It also works with Unicode when using programs that are capable of employing UTF-8 with setenv LANG de_DE.UTF-8. In this case, even chinese characters can be used, given the proper fonts. Still, I may emphasize that it's NOT good to have non-ASCII characters in file names. Things like spaces, quotes, backslashes, et, curly braces and other special characters _are_ possible in file names, but they do not belong there. On the systems I had to maintain, I adviced my children... erm... users! :-) to only use lowercase letters and _ instead of space, combined with a corporate-given naming convention for work files that had to be managed by the users. A solution (that does solve the problem, not its cause) would be to install the Midnight Commander and use it in a UTF-8 capable terminal in X (but also works in text mode), move the cursor to a file and press PF6 (rename), then enter a name in ASCII. Using this approach, you don't have to enter the original file name .???. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt': ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt Long answer, for those who want to follow along and fix their terminal to display UTF-8, keep reading... Step 1: Make a funky file to play along with this min-tutorial: === Create a text file with an editor that supports non-ASCII characters. I created a file named 'filename' which containing this (no newline!): à fichier.txt Step 2: Create the actual file with content === I used echo and cat like so in the tcsh shell: echo hello world `cat filename` Step 3: Show the file in ls === As you can see below, the first character of the filename is displayed as two question marks. This is the terminal's way of showing filenames that it cannot display correctly. There are two question marks, because this is a two-byte character. This does *not* mean the filename starts with a literal question mark: -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt Step 4: (optional) Fix the terminal === At this point, let's just fix the terminal so that UTF-8 characters are displayed correctly. We want to see the French accented 'à', and not a bunch of question marks. To do this, you edit '/etc/login.conf' as root. Add two lines at the bottom of the 'default' section. My default section now looks like this: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ ...and so on... :charset=en_US.UTF-8:\ :lang=en_US.UTF-8: If you're a French operation yours should probably look like this instead: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ ...and so on... :charset=fr_FR.UTF-8:\ :lang=fr_FR.UTF-8: I'm not certain on these for all countries, but the above examples work. We then need to rebuild the actual login database. Execute the following command as root: cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf This generates /etc/login.conf.db from /etc/login.conf. Now log out and then back in! Step 5: Back to the funky file == You should now see the actual accent characters correctly in the terminal. (Assuming your terminal supports this): -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 à fichier.txt In some ternimals, we cannot type these characters. So you can access the filename through a shell glob pattern. In most shells, the glob pattern '?' matches any single character. The forward slash escapes the space in the filename. mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt Hope this helps (and doesn't get too mangled.) -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
Thanks that is working :-) Now I have to test the application ( apache based application ) to see if it is able to open the file. I'll tell in few hours when arrived to my office Le 23/05/2011 17:50, Modulok a écrit : Short answer, use a glob pattern. Assume I have a file named 'à fichier.txt': ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt Long answer, for those who want to follow along and fix their terminal to display UTF-8, keep reading... Step 1: Make a funky file to play along with this min-tutorial: === Create a text file with an editor that supports non-ASCII characters. I created a file named 'filename' which containing this (no newline!): à fichier.txt Step 2: Create the actual file with content === I used echo and cat like so in the tcsh shell: echo hello world `cat filename` Step 3: Show the file in ls === As you can see below, the first character of the filename is displayed as two question marks. This is the terminal's way of showing filenames that it cannot display correctly. There are two question marks, because this is a two-byte character. This does *not* mean the filename starts with a literal question mark: -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 ?? fichier.txt Step 4: (optional) Fix the terminal === At this point, let's just fix the terminal so that UTF-8 characters are displayed correctly. We want to see the French accented 'à', and not a bunch of question marks. To do this, you edit '/etc/login.conf' as root. Add two lines at the bottom of the 'default' section. My default section now looks like this: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ ...and so on... :charset=en_US.UTF-8:\ :lang=en_US.UTF-8: If you're a French operation yours should probably look like this instead: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ ...and so on... :charset=fr_FR.UTF-8:\ :lang=fr_FR.UTF-8: I'm not certain on these for all countries, but the above examples work. We then need to rebuild the actual login database. Execute the following command as root: cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf This generates /etc/login.conf.db from /etc/login.conf. Now log out and then back in! Step 5: Back to the funky file == You should now see the actual accent characters correctly in the terminal. (Assuming your terminal supports this): -rw-r--r-- 1 Modulok Modulok 12 May 23 09:01 à fichier.txt In some ternimals, we cannot type these characters. So you can access the filename through a shell glob pattern. In most shells, the glob pattern '?' matches any single character. The forward slash escapes the space in the filename. mv ?\ fichier.txt aFile.txt Hope this helps (and doesn't get too mangled.) -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Open a file using what program? Do you have permission to read/write to the file? What is the file called? You need to give us more data to help you. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks Envoyé de mon iPhone___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Filename containing French characters ?
Le 22/05/2011 17:31, Mike Jeays a écrit : On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:00:48 +0200 Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello I'm going mad trying to Open a file which the filename contains one or more French characters ( file not found ) Is there some magical receipe to do so ? Or do I have to forget trying ??? Thanks Envoyé de mon iPhone___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If the first few characters is not accented, type 'mv ', then the first few characters, in a command line, and press 'tab' so the auto-completion works. Don't forget the closing quote. Then rename it to something else. Access right are OK ( 644 ) the completion does not work, the operating system says file not found when I try to open it with any program. when I type the ls -l command the file is displayed with a ? in place of the French (accentuated ) character I tried UTF8 or iso8859-1 as MM-CHARSET and fr_FR.ISO8859-1 as LANG global variables but it still don-t work ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
