Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-17 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 03:25:56PM -0400, alexus typed:
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote:
  On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand (st...@ibctech.ca) 
  wrote:
 
   The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
   processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

 i'd go w/ 8.0 worse case scenario 7.2
 and put more memory in that machine it's embarassing :)

CPU: AMD Enhanced Am486DX4/Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU)
real memory  = 67108864 (64 MB)

soekrisgw uname -rms
FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE i386

Soekris board running fine as a router and firewall. I'm not at all embarrassed.

Ruben

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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-17 Thread Diego F. Arias R.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 03:25:56PM -0400, alexus typed:
  On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com
 wrote:
   On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand (st...@ibctech.ca)
 wrote:
  
The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

  i'd go w/ 8.0 worse case scenario 7.2
  and put more memory in that machine it's embarassing :)

 CPU: AMD Enhanced Am486DX4/Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU)
 real memory  = 67108864 (64 MB)

 soekrisgw uname -rms
 FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE i386

 Soekris board running fine as a router and firewall. I'm not at all
 embarrassed.

 Ruben

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Swap: 512M Total, 84M Used, 428M Free, 16% Inuse

One of my servers, run Web,Mail,Torrent,MySQL,IRSSI and OpenVPN

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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-16 Thread andrew clarke
On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand (st...@ibctech.ca) wrote:

  The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
  processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

I run FreeBSD 7.2 on a headless 1 GHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM.

...

 Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process
 objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of
 assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe.

2 GB for / seems excessive to me.  1 GB should be plenty.  I have 500
MB allocated for FreeBSD 7.2:

Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a496M144M312M31%/

Although, with a cheap PCI SATA controller card you should be able to
use current model terabyte-sized hard drives on a Pentium III, so hard
drive space is a bit academic.

Regards
Andrew
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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-16 Thread alexus
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote:
 On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand (st...@ibctech.ca) wrote:

  The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
  processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

 I run FreeBSD 7.2 on a headless 1 GHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM.

 ...

 Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process
 objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of
 assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe.

 2 GB for / seems excessive to me.  1 GB should be plenty.  I have 500
 MB allocated for FreeBSD 7.2:

 Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a    496M    144M    312M    31%    /

 Although, with a cheap PCI SATA controller card you should be able to
 use current model terabyte-sized hard drives on a Pentium III, so hard
 drive space is a bit academic.

 Regards
 Andrew
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i'd go w/ 8.0 worse case scenario 7.2
and put more memory in that machine it's embarassing :)

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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-16 Thread Kevin Kinsey

alexus wrote:

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote:

On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand (st...@ibctech.ca) wrote:


The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

I run FreeBSD 7.2 on a headless 1 GHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM.
...


Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process
objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of
assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe.

2 GB for / seems excessive to me.  1 GB should be plenty.  I have 500
MB allocated for FreeBSD 7.2:


i'd go w/ 8.0 worse case scenario 7.2
and put more memory in that machine it's embarassing :)


Bah, it's got more than an iPhone. :-D

KDK


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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-16 Thread Joseph Lenox
I had my fileserver running on a P3-1Ghz with Freebsd-8 for a good long 
while. I eventually replaced it with a dual-socket opteron board I got 
on ebay for something like $50 after shipping (with processors, seller 
was getting rid of 600 or so blades).


I'm pretty sure the auction is still up if anyone cares. The board runs 
great with FBSD 8.0-Release amd64


On 3/16/2010 5:46 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote:

alexus wrote:
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com 
wrote:
On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand 
(st...@ibctech.ca) wrote:



The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

I run FreeBSD 7.2 on a headless 1 GHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM.
...


Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process
objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of
assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe.

2 GB for / seems excessive to me.  1 GB should be plenty.  I have 500
MB allocated for FreeBSD 7.2:


i'd go w/ 8.0 worse case scenario 7.2
and put more memory in that machine it's embarassing :)


Bah, it's got more than an iPhone. :-D

KDK


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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-16 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.03.16 15:25, alexus wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote:
 On Fri 2010-03-12 00:16:35 UTC-0500, Steve Bertrand (st...@ibctech.ca) wrote:

 The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
 processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

 I run FreeBSD 7.2 on a headless 1 GHz Pentium III with 256 MB RAM.


 i'd go w/ 8.0 worse case scenario 7.2

 and put more memory in that machine it's embarassing :)

Hogwash. Embarrassment is an opinion that you either believe people hold
against you, or you hold against others, in which you think they will
think about you:

62 processes:  1 running, 61 sleeping
CPU states:  5.5% user,  0.0% nice, 11.9% system,  0.6% interrupt, 82.0%
idle
Mem: 53M Active, 11M Inact, 20M Wired, 6556K Cache, 19M Buf, 448K Free

I am not embarrassed. This server has +30 websites running, and it is
dead reliable.

You do what you know works. You do not do because you might be 'shamed'.
Those who shame people in this industry don't last long ;)

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:29:13 -0600, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@icsmx.com wrote:
 It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail 
 and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low 
 volume. That's all.
 
 Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
 
 - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it 
 work again for some other years.
 
 - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if 
 so. which one?
 (in all these years even when the machine is on the Internet and LOT 
 of people has tried to hacked it daily, in all these years we have 
 never had a problem.)
 
 Thanks in advance for your advice.

You won't encounter problems running the latest FreeBSD. This
OS, I may emphasize this, does run FASTER and BETTER with
each release on the SAME hardware.

Sadly, this doesn't always apply for application software,
which tends to benefit from bloat.

But as you said you don't want a workstation, but a server,
you sould install FreeBSD 8 and incorporate the security
updates, e. g. via freebsd-update. So you can be sure to
have a secure system all the time. DNS and squirrel don't
seem to bring in any problems, from my opinion.

So, my advice would be:
1. Get all your data from the machine.
2. Install FreeBSD 8 from scratch. This gives you the chance
   to possible re-partition, if you need to.
3. Update to the latest security patchlevel.
4. Update your ports collection.
5. Install the programs you need, or use pkg_add -r, which
   may be the better solution if you have an old system;
   in this case, step 4 can be omitted.
6. Configure your services.
7. Re-import your data, configure everything properly.
8. Give it a test run.
9. Yay! You did it! =^_^=



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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-12 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@icsmx.com wrote:
 The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III processors
 with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.

 It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail and
 squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low volume. That's
 all.

Wow, that's a big and fast machine, compared to some of the really OLD
boxes that run FreeBSD 8.0 just fine with a load similar to yours (some of
them with 500 MHz CPUs, 128 MB RAM and 20 GB disks). For server
needs, go for 8.0, you won't regret it.

-cpghost.

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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-11 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.03.11 23:29, Jorge Biquez wrote:
 Hello all.
 
 I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years.
 This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest
 version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x
 and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running
 corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary  DNS an an email server
 for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and
 installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like
 to install a mor erecent version.
 
 The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
 processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
 
 It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
 and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
 volume. That's all.
 
 Can you give me your opinions on what would you?

Honestly, so long as there is no GUI running, the only real difference I
currently observe on machines that have the requirement to stay at this:

%uname -a

FreeBSD x.x.x 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49
GMT 2001 j...@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

...and something more current is that the more recent versions require
much more thought put into the original size of the root (/) partition,
particularly when you are used to performing source upgrades.

Earlier versions required *much* less space.

The performance difference is negligible, so long as though you plan on
running the same processes, and still perform proper diligence in
trimming your kernel config file appropriately.

With upgrading to a more recent version, you garner the benefits of
security patches, code efficiencies, ability to follow current
standards/practices etc.

Again... so long as the system won't change its overall process
objectives, go to the recent production release, but instead of
assigning 256M for /, throw 2G at it to be safe.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-11 Thread Mark Shroyer
On 3/11/2010 11:29 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote:
 I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some years.
 This week something weird happened when I tried to update to latest
 version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to update to 5.x
 and after doing all the process finally I can not have it running
 corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary  DNS an an email server
 for one domain. I am still trying to recover it downloading and
 installing the sae version it has but in case I can not fix I would like
 to install a mor erecent version.
 
 The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III
 processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
 
 It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail
 and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low
 volume. That's all.
 
 Can you give me your opinions on what would you?

If you're going to reinstall anyway, you might as well run the latest
and greatest version.  FreeBSD 8.0 will do just fine on this hardware.

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Re: FreeBSD Version recommend for OLD machine

2010-03-11 Thread Erich
On 12 March 2010 pm 12:29:13 Jorge Biquez wrote:
 Hello all.
 
 I have an old machine that has been running 4.11-Stable for some 
 years. This week something weird happened when I tried to update to 
 latest version on 4.x. Anyway, I thought that was a good idea to 
 update to 5.x and after doing all the process finally I can not have 
 it running corrcetly. Not a big problem since a secondary  DNS an an 
 email server for one domain. I am still trying to recover it 
 downloading and installing the sae version it has but in case I can 
 not fix I would like to install a mor erecent version.
 
 The machine has a Motherboard that supports 2 double pentium III 
 processors with 1GB of ram and a hard disk with 40GB.
 
 It won't do anything else but a dns slave for maybe 100 domains, mail 
 and squirrel for 10 domain, not more than 100 users with very low 
 volume. That's all.
 
 Can you give me your opinions on what would you?
 
 - To re-install the version that it used to has from zero and let it 
 work again for some other years.
 
 - Try a new version (maybe it is more secure or faster) and if 
 so. which one?

have a try with 8.0. If it does not work go back to 7.2.

I have one machine on which 8.0 does not support USB at all.

The scheduler on 8.0 is much better. You will be surprised when moving directly 
from 4.11 to 8.0 how fast the machine feels.

Erich
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Re: freebsd version numbers

2009-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I upgraded to Freebsd systems from 7.0 to 7.2
on the first one, done May 25th, I use the generic kernel
$ uname -a reports: 7.2-RELEASE #0

on the second one, done 3 days later (May 28th)
on this system I also build and installed a custom kernel after upgrade.
$ uname -a reports:  7.2-RELEASE #1



every time you do config and make depend;make it bumps that number by one
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Re: freebsd version numbers

2009-06-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
Pieter Donche wrote:
 I upgraded to Freebsd systems from 7.0 to 7.2
 on the first one, done May 25th, I use the generic kernel
 $ uname -a reports: 7.2-RELEASE #0
 
 on the second one, done 3 days later (May 28th)
 on this system I also build and installed a custom kernel after upgrade.
 $ uname -a reports:  7.2-RELEASE #1
 
 Why is this different? (#0 versus #1)
 
 What does #Number actually mean: is this the same as -pNumber used in
 the mails from   @daily  rootfreebsd-update cron
 The following files will be updated as part of updating to
 X.Y-RELEASE-pNumber

No, it's nothing like that.  It's a count of the number of times a
kernel has been built from a particular source tree.  Unless you're
doing active kernel development it doesn't mean anything much.

 If not, what is the difference ?
 
 what's the difference between version, level, patchlevel, 'release
 level', 'version level of a release' (any others ?), ...

See

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html

which explains quite a lot of that sort of thing.  Effectively there are
releases made at approximately regular intervals of about 4 months.
These have names like '7.2-RELEASE'.  When significant problems or
security holes are discovered, patches will be produced for any
supported releases. These have names like '7.1-RELEASE-p5' where the
p-number is just a counter showing how many patches there have been
since the actual release.  There may be several major versions with
releases being made from them -- e.g. 6.4-RELEASE and 7.1-RELEASE came
out pretty much simultaneously.  The next release due is 8.0-RELEASE,
but there will be 7.3-RELEASE sometime after that.  There's a new major
version approximately every 18 months, from which there will typically
be 4 or 5 minor version releases).

In addition to the releases there are two types of development streams
that you can track: at the moment that's 8.0-CURRENT also known as HEAD
(the bleeding edge which is not at all suitable for beginners, nor would
any sensible person run anything important on it) and then the various
STABLE streams such as 7.2-STABLE a.k.a RELENG_7 (STABLE here is a
comment on the runtime characteristics of the OS, not on the rate of
change of the code base -- these are active development branches).
Around the time a release is made, the STABLE streams change name to eg.
7.3-PRERELEASE and possibly a few others, but it's all from the same CVS
branch.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: freebsd version of 'data' for getting epoch time ... ?

2007-06-20 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 20), Gore Jarold said:
 If I have a arbitrary date/time and I want to convert
 that to epoch time, I do this with GNU date:
 
 date --date='1970-01-01 00:02:00 +' +%s

 Easy.
 
 Can someone tell me what the syntax is for FreeBSD
 date command ?

date -j -f '%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z' '1970-01-01 00:02:00 GMT' +%s

Adjust the -f argument to match whatever format your input string has
(the date manpage has an example that parses date's default output back
into itself).  Unfortunately, it looks like strptime doesn't handle the
%z flag, which is why I changed your + to GMT and used %Z instead. 
%z is actually easier to parse, so I'm not sure why it's not handled.

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Re: FreeBSD Version 5.3

2007-03-12 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 12, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Dominic Tampone wrote:

The last Patch we can find for this Version is 2005.

Are there subsequent Patches available to update and bring current?


Security updates to FreeBSD 5.3 were published through the end of  
2006, something along the lines of 5.3-RELEASE-p37, but I don't  
expect that patches are going to continue to be produced for 5.3 in  
2007.


(I may be wrong; perhaps you should ask the security team for the  
real scoop.  :-)


Update to FreeBSD 5.5, or possibly 6.2

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Re: freebsd version?

2006-09-27 Thread azhar freebsd

2006/9/26, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:35:07PM +0900, azhar freebsd wrote:

 hi
 can anybody tell me what is 6.2 preerelease.

Just what it says.
It is a FreeBSD 6.2 that has not been officially released yet.
The present official release is 6.1.   The 6.2 release is coming
soon and is being worked on actively.   You can install it for
testing or development or somewhat risky production use.  It is
sort of a beta release.

jerry


 uname -a
 FreeBSD belagelo.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep
 24 16:53:30 UTC 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC  i386
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 azhar
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thank u for your reply . is there any way to get back the normal freebsd
version . i am facing a lot of problems that i think its because of this
version .like i cant install any package by sysinstall through ftp .

azhar
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Re: freebsd version?

2006-09-27 Thread azhar freebsd

2006/9/25, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 9/25/06, azhar freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 can anybody tell me what is 6.2 preerelease.

 uname -a
 FreeBSD belagelo.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep
 24 16:53:30 UTC 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC  i386
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When X-STABLE between X.Y and X.(Y+1) gets close to
X.(Y+1), we call it X.(Y+1)-PRERELEASE instead of
X.Y-STABLE. We're expecting 6.2 this November.




thank u for your reply . is there any way to get back the normal freebsd
version . i am facing a lot of problems that i think its because of this
version .like i cant install any package by sysinstall through ftp .

azhar
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Re: freebsd version?

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Norgaard

azhar freebsd wrote:

 uname -a
 FreeBSD belagelo.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep
 24 16:53:30 UTC 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC  i386
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


thank u for your reply . is there any way to get back the normal freebsd
version . i am facing a lot of problems that i think its because of this
version .like i cant install any package by sysinstall through ftp .


If you are experiencing a lot of problems, then consider reporting them, 
 the 6.2 version will be the next STABLE release.


Reverting back to the exact snapshot of your previous system is 
imposible unless you know the date of that snapshot. If you have been 
tracking RELENG_6 you have gradually been updating your system to 
present which will soon become 6.2.


You can get the 6.1 RELEASE with security patches by changing the tag in 
the supfile to RELENG_6_1.


Without further details on the problems you experience, I doubt your 
problems relate to the version - I experience no problems at all.


They may relate to errors occurred during the update of your system or 
the source. Did you rebuild/install both kernel and world? Did you 
follow the instructions running mergemaster? Try updating your sources 
and rebuild again.


Cheers, Erik
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Re: freebsd version?

2006-09-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 07:04:53PM +0900, azhar freebsd wrote:

 2006/9/26, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:35:07PM +0900, azhar freebsd wrote:
 
  hi
  can anybody tell me what is 6.2 preerelease.
 
 Just what it says.
 It is a FreeBSD 6.2 that has not been officially released yet.
 The present official release is 6.1.   The 6.2 release is coming
 soon and is being worked on actively.   You can install it for
 testing or development or somewhat risky production use.  It is
 sort of a beta release.
 
 jerry
 
 
  uname -a
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 thank u for your reply . is there any way to get back the normal freebsd
 version . i am facing a lot of problems that i think its because of this
 version .like i cant install any package by sysinstall through ftp .

If it is really a problem with version 6.2, you might have to 
do a fresh install of 6.1 and then cvsup to RELENG_6.1 rather 
than STABLE or CURRENT.

So far as I know, though, 6.2 is very reliable now.  So, maybe
it might help to pursue the actual problems you are having more.
It may be that you would have the same problems in 6.1 or even 5.5.

So, you might want to ask questions about the specific
problems you are having in 6.2.

jerry

 
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Re: freebsd version?

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 9/25/06, azhar freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi
can anybody tell me what is 6.2 preerelease.

uname -a
FreeBSD belagelo.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep
24 16:53:30 UTC 2006
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When X-STABLE between X.Y and X.(Y+1) gets close to
X.(Y+1), we call it X.(Y+1)-PRERELEASE instead of
X.Y-STABLE. We're expecting 6.2 this November.
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Re: freebsd version?

2006-09-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:35:07PM +0900, azhar freebsd wrote:

 hi
 can anybody tell me what is 6.2 preerelease.

Just what it says.
It is a FreeBSD 6.2 that has not been officially released yet.
The present official release is 6.1.   The 6.2 release is coming
soon and is being worked on actively.   You can install it for
testing or development or somewhat risky production use.  It is
sort of a beta release.

jerry

 
 uname -a
 FreeBSD belagelo.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep
 24 16:53:30 UTC 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC  i386
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RE: FreeBSD Version...

2003-12-05 Thread Philip Payne
 
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering why there was 4.9 release if the newest one it 
 5.1. Whick 
 is better I am currently on 5.1. It's a little confusing. 
 Well there be 
 a 4.10 and 5.2 release at the same time?
 

A lot of people are going to give you an RTFM style response back to the
install instructions on www.freebsd.org to this question but to be a little
more helpful:

FreeBSD is released with two trains of code. STABLE and CURRENT.

CURRENT as the name suggests has cutting edge code and aspects of it will be
untested in the wider user community. 5.1 is the latest release in the
CURRENT train.

STABLE as the name suggests is stable code that has been widely used and
should be bug free (as far as this is possible with software). 4.9 is the
latest release in the STABLE train.

If you want cutting edge, install current and be aware of the caveats of
using it.

If you have a production server install stable.

At some point in the future I'm assuming there will be a 5.X release as part
of the STABLE train.

Me personally, I've always stuck with stable and appreciate it for that. The
only time I've had a stability problem with the stable code is when using
the NVIDIA driver, which naturally can't be attributed to the BSD code
itself.

PS: Great name

Ta,
Phil Payne.
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Re: FreeBSD Version...

2003-12-05 Thread Benjamin Lutz
 I am wondering why there was 4.9 release if the newest one it 5.1.
 Whick is better I am currently on 5.1. It's a little confusing. Well
 there be a 4.10 and 5.2 release at the same time?

4.9 is the stable production release, while 5.1 (and in a few weeks,
5.2) is the development release that will eventually become the stable
release. FreeBSD 4 will be developed (well, maintained, since few new
features are added to it at this time, mostly driver updates from what
I've seen) until the development team thinks FreeBSD 5 at least as
fast and rock solid as FreeBSD 4. This is planned to happen when FreeBSD
5.3 released; at that point, active development for FreeBSD 4 will
halt.

FreeBSD 5.1 is a development release. While it runs OK for most people,
some architectural things are going to change with 5.2 and 5.3, and
you're advised not to rely on it with your critical stuff, but use 4.9
instead.

Hope this clears things up.

Greetings
Benjamin


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Re: FreeBSD version of Linux's passwd -l

2002-10-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:17:53AM -0700, Bsd Neophyte wrote:
 
 i'm following a pretty decent IBM tutorial on how to setup a samba PDC. 
 in the tutorial the following command is mentioned:
 
 passwd -l

pw lock [user]

Check the pw manpage.

Ceri

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Re: FreeBSD version of Linux's passwd -l

2002-10-19 Thread Bsd Neophyte

this is what i pulled from the 'pw' man page about the 'lock' option.

to me, it doesn't seem as if they do the same thing.

-
DESCRIPTION
The lock utility requests a password from the user, reads it again for
verification and then will normally not relinquish the terminal until the
password is repeated.  There are two other conditions under which it will
terminate: it will timeout after some interval of time and it may be
killed by someone with the appropriate permission.
--

whereas the linux version states that it makes the account available for
root only.

--
-l
This option is used to lock the specified account and it is available to
root only. The locking is performed by rendering the encrypted password
into an invalid string (by prefixing the encrypted string with an !). 
--


--- Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:17:53AM -0700, Bsd Neophyte wrote:
  
  i'm following a pretty decent IBM tutorial on how to setup a samba
 PDC. 
  in the tutorial the following command is mentioned:
  
  passwd -l
 
 pw lock [user]
 
 Check the pw manpage.
 
 Ceri
 
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Re: FreeBSD version of Linux's passwd -l

2002-10-19 Thread Tom Carrick
That's from the lock(1) man page, not the pw(8) man page. the relevant
section from the pw man page is as follows:

USER LOCKING
Pw supports a simple password locking mechanism for users; it works by
prepending the string `*LOCKED*' to the beginning of the password field
in master.passwd to prevent successful authentication.

The lock and unlock commands take a user name or uid of the account to
lock or unlock, respectively.  The -V, -C, and -q options as described
above are accepted by these commands.

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 21:01, Bsd Neophyte wrote:
 
 this is what i pulled from the 'pw' man page about the 'lock' option.
 
 to me, it doesn't seem as if they do the same thing.
 
 -
 DESCRIPTION
 The lock utility requests a password from the user, reads it again for
 verification and then will normally not relinquish the terminal until the
 password is repeated.  There are two other conditions under which it will
 terminate: it will timeout after some interval of time and it may be
 killed by someone with the appropriate permission.
 --
 
 whereas the linux version states that it makes the account available for
 root only.
 
 --
 -l
 This option is used to lock the specified account and it is available to
 root only. The locking is performed by rendering the encrypted password
 into an invalid string (by prefixing the encrypted string with an !). 
 --
 
 
 --- Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:17:53AM -0700, Bsd Neophyte wrote:
   
   i'm following a pretty decent IBM tutorial on how to setup a samba
  PDC. 
   in the tutorial the following command is mentioned:
   
   passwd -l
  
  pw lock [user]
  
  Check the pw manpage.
  
  Ceri
  
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