Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
Quoth Adam Vande More on Sunday, 02 January 2011: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Michael D. Norwick > wrote: > > > Happy New Year! > > > > I bought a new HP 2010i LCD monitor that is supposed to give me 1600x900 > > resolution at 60 Hz to replace a generic 19" C.R.T. monitor that did > > 1024x768. The machine has an ATI Radeon video card and I am using a V.G.A. > > cable not H.D.M.I. I reconfigured my /etc/xorg.conf using Xorg --configure. > > I was given the full screen at 1600x900 resolution at the next reboot but > > then while trying to adjust some monitor settings such as Power Saver and > > Sleep Timer the screen adjusted to the right and will not center. Adjusting > > the horizontal control to '0' (full left?) will not center the display. > > > > The easiest thing to do is to simply start X without xorg.conf present. It > will automatically run with highest settings your devices are capable of. > > mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old > restart X > > -- > Adam Vande More > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Not always. On my laptop, Xorg wouldn't even run without specifying refresh rates. But in general, that's a good place to start. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpRAce8c2USG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Happy New Year! > > I bought a new HP 2010i LCD monitor that is supposed to give me 1600x900 > resolution at 60 Hz to replace a generic 19" C.R.T. monitor that did > 1024x768. The machine has an ATI Radeon video card and I am using a V.G.A. > cable not H.D.M.I. I reconfigured my /etc/xorg.conf using Xorg --configure. > I was given the full screen at 1600x900 resolution at the next reboot but > then while trying to adjust some monitor settings such as Power Saver and > Sleep Timer the screen adjusted to the right and will not center. Adjusting > the horizontal control to '0' (full left?) will not center the display. > The easiest thing to do is to simply start X without xorg.conf present. It will automatically run with highest settings your devices are capable of. mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old restart X -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
Original message bounced somehow, so I post it one more time. Sorry for the inconvenience. I copied the complete xorg.conf file which works fine at my FreeBSD installation. That very configuration file worked fine for a PC-BSD 8.0 installation on the same hardware. I compiled Xorg via ports without HAL. So you may need to adjust it for your installation in order to work. I hope it works for you. xorg.conf is as follows Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "DontZap" "off" Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "Xkblayout" "tr" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 440 250 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "HWP" ModelName"HP 2009" HorizSync24.0 - 85.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 76.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize"# #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip"# [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "FBTexPercent" # #Option "DepthBits" # #Option "PCIAPERSize" # #Option "AccelDFS" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID"# [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "ColorTiling" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "RageTheatreCrystal"# #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # #Option "TunerType" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # #Option "ScalerWidth" # #Option "RenderAccel" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] #Option "VGAAccess" # [] #Option "ReverseDDC"# [] #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [] #Option "AccelMethod" # #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "ConnectorTable"# #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [] #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL"# [] #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [] #Option "ForceTVOut"# [] #Option "TVStandard"# #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [] #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [] #Option "Int10" # [] #Option "EXAVSync" # [] #Option "ATOMTVOut" # [] #O
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
02/01/2011 03:09, Michael D. Norwick yazmış: > On 01/01/2011 12:51, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:34:39 -0600, "Michael D. >> Norwick" wrote: >> >>> And, where are those commented out option lines >>> in my xorg.conf documented? >>> >> In the obvious place: "man xorg.conf". :-) >> >> >> >> > From 'man xorg.conf'"VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION >Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ...". > See also 'man radeon' > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > I attached the complete xorg.conf file which works fine at my FreeBSD installation. That very configuration file worked fine for a PC-BSD 8.0 install on the same hardware. You may need to adjust it for your installation in order to work, such as fonts and etc. I hope it works for you. -- Gökşin Akdeniz (Gökşin Akdeniz) Key Finger Print = FE10 8C14 A144 4FDE BE18 D5E3 E758 F49A 8A5D F8AE Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "DontZap" "off" Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "Xkblayout" "tr" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 440 250 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "HWP" ModelName"HP 2009" HorizSync24.0 - 85.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 76.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize"# #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip"# [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "FBTexPercent" # #Option "DepthBits" # #Option "PCIAPERSize" # #Option "AccelDFS" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID"# [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "ColorTiling" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "RageTheatreCrystal"# #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # #Option "TunerType" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # #Option "ScalerWidth" # #Option "RenderAccel" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] #Option "VGAAccess" # [] #Option "ReverseDDC"# [] #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [] #Option
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Okay, closer. Thank You. I commented out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines restarted the X session and the screen appeared to fill more but I still had a black bar to the left at 1600x900. Going to Computer -> System Settings -> Computer Administration - Display -> Size and Orientation, I found it at; Size 1600x900 Refresh Auto Changed it to Size 1280x1024 Refresh Auto Still no full screen width. In fact it got narrower. Changed it to Size 1440x900 (which had not been an option previously) The screen appeared to resize to the full width of the display and 'Refresh' now shows 59.9 Hz. The monitor really is 1600x900, so it's still not quite right. Your /var/log/Xorg.0.log may tell why it's not showing correctly. It sounds like maybe a monitor adjustment. If there's an "Auto" button on the monitor, set xorg.conf to 1600x900 (see below) and try that button. I won't be pushing any buttons until I understand the effect. I understand why HorizSync and VertRefresh settings would not be necessary for an LCD display but the xserver obviously knows what it's connected to. Millions of years ago, when stupid CRTs roamed the earth, a wrong setting could physically damage the monitor. Different refresh rates were used for different resolutions, with 75 Hz or higher needed to avoid flickering (in the US, anyway). So the HorizSync and VertRefresh entries were there to specify the limits of what a given monitor could do, and protect it from incorrect, potentially damaging settings. Today's monitors are smart. The video card has a serial link to them through the VGA cable so the monitor can be queried for resolutions and refresh rates. Even simpler, most LCDs use 60 Hz for a refresh rate, regardless of resolution. This can get more complicated when you talk to xorg through a third-party window manager utility. It's easiest to get xorg.conf set correctly by directly editing xorg.conf. 'Xorg -configure' generates an xorg.conf that is... well, not optimal for today's systems. Whether that's due to apathy, inertia, or aversion due to so many old systems still being around, who knows. Here's what I'd use for your entire Screen section: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Modes "1600x900" Virtual 1600 900 EndSubSection EndSection ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On 01/01/2011 12:51, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:34:39 -0600, "Michael D. Norwick" wrote: And, where are those commented out option lines in my xorg.conf documented? In the obvious place: "man xorg.conf". :-) From 'man xorg.conf'"VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ...". See also 'man radeon' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:34:39 -0600, "Michael D. Norwick" wrote: > And, where are those commented out option lines > in my xorg.conf documented? In the obvious place: "man xorg.conf". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On 01/01/2011 10:25, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Michael D. Norwick wrote: I bought Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "HWP" ModelName"HP 2010" HorizSync24.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 Option"DPMS" EndSection For a start, remove or comment out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines. Okay, closer. Thank You. I commented out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines restarted the X session and the screen appeared to fill more but I still had a black bar to the left at 1600x900. Going to Computer -> System Settings -> Computer Administration - Display -> Size and Orientation, I found it at; Size 1600x900 Refresh Auto Changed it to Size 1280x1024 Refresh Auto Still no full screen width. In fact it got narrower. Changed it to Size 1440x900 (which had not been an option previously) The screen appeared to resize to the full width of the display and 'Refresh' now shows 59.9 Hz. This is all quite non-intuitive. I won't be pushing any buttons until I understand the effect. I understand why HorizSync and VertRefresh settings would not be necessary for an LCD display but the xserver obviously knows what it's connected to. Why does it set those? And, where are those commented out option lines in my xorg.conf documented? Thank You, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010, Michael D. Norwick wrote: I bought a new HP 2010i LCD monitor that is supposed to give me 1600x900 resolution at 60 Hz to replace a generic 19" C.R.T. monitor that did 1024x768. The machine has an ATI Radeon video card and I am using a V.G.A. cable not H.D.M.I. I reconfigured my /etc/xorg.conf using Xorg --configure. I was given the full screen at 1600x900 resolution at the next reboot but then while trying to adjust some monitor settings such as Power Saver and Sleep Timer the screen adjusted to the right and will not center. Adjusting the horizontal control to '0' (full left?) will not center the display. ... Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 440 250# mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "HWP" ModelName"HP 2010" HorizSync24.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 Option"DPMS" EndSection For a start, remove or comment out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1
On 12/31/2010 21:07, Michael D. Norwick wrote: Happy New Year! I bought a new HP 2010i LCD monitor that is supposed to give me 1600x900 resolution at 60 Hz to replace a generic 19" C.R.T. monitor that did 1024x768. The machine has an ATI Radeon video card and I am using a V.G.A. cable not H.D.M.I. I reconfigured my /etc/xorg.conf using Xorg --configure. I was given the full screen at 1600x900 resolution at the next reboot but then while trying to adjust some monitor settings such as Power Saver and Sleep Timer the screen adjusted to the right and will not center. Adjusting the horizontal control to '0' (full left?) will not center the display. Sorry, I meant to say D.V.I. (cable) not H.D.M.I. Thanks, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
