Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Sunday 28 October 2012 01:17:46 Manish Jain wrote: > Consider me a newbie here. How do I do wide-reinstall ? You can do this with ports-mgmt/portmaster. See the section "Using portmaster to do a complete reinstallation of all your ports" at the end of the examples section of the man page. > I don't mind > pulling in and building a few more ports as long as it is not the whole > GNOME2 metaport Rebuilding everything is the least complicated way of fixing the problem. It's a big job but if you don't do that then you're likely to have to keep doing even more firefighting in the future. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:47:46 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > On 28-Oct-12 01:49, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > >>> But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present > >>> a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not > >>> have any image on them. > >> > >> > >> The problem is not Mozilla-specific. I built Opera web browser from > >> ports, and that too has images missing from its buttons. > > > > It seems that the problem is in some dependency, not the "top port" > > itself. This usually indicates that something in /usr/local is > > dangerously out of sync, and in most cases, "wide re-installs" > > solve such kind of problem. > > > > > > > >> Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" > >> in the coming days. > > > > You just need to imagine the images. :-) > > > Hello Poly, > > > "wide re-installs" > > Consider me a newbie here. How do I do wide-reinstall ? That's nowhere a correct terminus technicus or established word. It just means that, for example, if you update one small library that is incorporated by a dependency of a dependency of a library part of Gtk, you need to recompile everything in relation to Gtk, all Gtk programs, libraries and dependencies. Manually tracing down the dependency could be possible, and maybe "manual overrides" with symlinks and libmap.conf can work, but if you update something here, in conclusion something there, it could lead to even more trouble, forcing you to do much more updates than you are willing to perform. > I don't mind > pulling in and building a few more ports as long as it is not the whole > GNOME2 metaport. It could very well be the whole Gnome 2 metaport. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On 28-Oct-12 01:49, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not have any image on them. The problem is not Mozilla-specific. I built Opera web browser from ports, and that too has images missing from its buttons. It seems that the problem is in some dependency, not the "top port" itself. This usually indicates that something in /usr/local is dangerously out of sync, and in most cases, "wide re-installs" solve such kind of problem. Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" in the coming days. You just need to imagine the images. :-) Hello Poly, "wide re-installs" Consider me a newbie here. How do I do wide-reinstall ? I don't mind pulling in and building a few more ports as long as it is not the whole GNOME2 metaport. Thank you & Regards, Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:19:16 +0200 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3 > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" > > in the coming days. > > You just need to imagine the images. :-) > It's a complex issue. a purely imagine-ary solution is inadequate. *SNICKER* (or *ALMOND*JOY* if you prefer nuts) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present > > a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not > > have any image on them. > > > The problem is not Mozilla-specific. I built Opera web browser from > ports, and that too has images missing from its buttons. It seems that the problem is in some dependency, not the "top port" itself. This usually indicates that something in /usr/local is dangerously out of sync, and in most cases, "wide re-installs" solve such kind of problem. > Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" > in the coming days. You just need to imagine the images. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
But Mozilla applications like Firefox and Thunderbird present a peculiar problem - the buttons on the Tool bar/Menu bar do not have any image on them. The problem is not Mozilla-specific. I built Opera web browser from ports, and that too has images missing from its buttons. Looks like I am going to have to contend with being less "image-inative" in the coming days. Regards, Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: Hello Polytropon, Thanks for replying. > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into the next century. Exactly that would have been the preferred solution. :-) You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal with installing and updating of ports. For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose of having port management tools. It also blurs the line between OS (/usr/lib) and additional software (/usr/local/lib) directories. However, both directories are used by the linker, so it looks possible (and probably better than messing with symlinks in /usr/local/lib). Problems _might_ occur when updating world. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > Sometimes placing symlink to the newer version of library instead of > older version helps. > There is only one symlink (/usr/local/bin/libpng.so) and it points to the newer version. Regards, Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Saturday 27 October 2012 09:42:10 Alexandr Alexeev wrote: > Sometimes placing symlink to the newer version of library instead of > older version helps. Specifying the alternative version in /etc/libmap.conf (5) is a neater way of doing this. The man page also shows you how to restrict the mapping to apply for only specified executables. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
Sometimes placing symlink to the newer version of library instead of older version helps. On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> >> Hello Polytropon, >> >> Thanks for replying. >> >> > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link >> > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. >> >> Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only >> thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 >> metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, >> the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you >> are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports >> directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into >> the next century. > > Exactly that would have been the preferred solution. :-) > > > >> > You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will >> > crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's >> > easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal >> > with installing and updating of ports. >> >> For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of >> libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the >> two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems >> to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose >> of having port management tools. > > It also blurs the line between OS (/usr/lib) and additional > software (/usr/local/lib) directories. However, both directories > are used by the linker, so it looks possible (and probably better > than messing with symlinks in /usr/local/lib). Problems _might_ > occur when updating world. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Best regards, Alex Alexeev http://twitter.com/afiskon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:06:44 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hello Polytropon, > > Thanks for replying. > > > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link > > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. > > Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only > thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 > metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, > the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you > are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports > directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into > the next century. Exactly that would have been the preferred solution. :-) > > You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will > > crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's > > easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal > > with installing and updating of ports. > > For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of > libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the > two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems > to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose > of having port management tools. It also blurs the line between OS (/usr/lib) and additional software (/usr/local/lib) directories. However, both directories are used by the linker, so it looks possible (and probably better than messing with symlinks in /usr/local/lib). Problems _might_ occur when updating world. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
Hello Polytropon, Thanks for replying. > Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link > to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. Maybe I did not make it clear enough in the original message. The only thing I installed from the installation DVD was the OS and the GNOME2 metaport. Everything else including FF and TB was installed from ports, the tarball of which I downloaded just a couple of days back. I hope you are not suggesting that I build the GNOME2 metaport too from the ports directory : with my internet connection, that really would take me into the next century. You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal with installing and updating of ports. For the present issue, it seems logical that I would need 2 versions of libpng : one for GNOME and one for the ports being installed. Having the two versions reside independently in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib seems to be the only way out. I still must admit that it defeats the purpose of having port management tools. I suspect that there might be folks at Mozilla who might see the light at the end of the tunnel (and the images on their buttons). I'll try roping them in with a separate message. If anything useful comes up, I'll post it to freebsd-questions as a message of possible interest to any other users who might be facing the same problem. Regards, Manish Jain bourne.ident...@hotmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Problem with libpng + Mozilla applications on FreeBSD 8.3
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:03:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Hi All, > > I recently purchased a laptop (Intel Pentium dual core) and installed > FreeBSD 8.3-i386 on it using the 'All' canned distribution. I then > downloaded the latest ports tarball and started building them. This ports snapshot is not "in sync" with the installed world and possibly installed 3rd party programs (ports) anymore. > Some of the ports required a newer version of the graphics/png port, so > I did a deinstall and reinstall in graphics/png. This removed the > previous binary libpng.so.6 and placed version libpng15.so.15 in its > stead. Things went wrong here - the GNOME desktop started crashing with > the panel not working and practically all desktop icons gone. Exactly my experience with some libjpeg update some years ago. :-) The rule usually is: If you update a port others depend on (read: depend on a specific version), you also need to update those ports. Mixing versions doesn't seem to be a good idea. > So I > guessed that the canned version of GNOME in the installation DVD had a > dependency on libpng.so.6. Correct. > I reinstalled FreeBSD 8.3, [...] Why did you reinstall the OS? Things like Gnome or PNG libarary are separated. > [...] and copied /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6 to > /usr/lib/libpng.so.6 before building the ports a second time. You should not manually copy things. At some point, something will crash, and the ports infrastructure cannot take care of it. It's easier to use a port management tool (like portmaster) to deal with installing and updating of ports. > This time > things went a lot more smoothly. GNOME works. But Mozilla applications > like Firefox and Thunderbird present a peculiar problem - the buttons on > the Tool bar/Menu bar do not have any image on them. It seems that there is some "library collision". If you update things, update _all_ of them, in order to avoid version trouble. The best approach (in your case) would be: Install the OS, do not install anything from ports yet. Get the ports tree. Update it to the recent version. Now start installing stuff, and do it from the _same_ ports tree. Alternative: If you go with the programs installed from the media (e. g. the DVD), use pkg_add to get binary installed applications. In case you insist on compiling, get the ports tree of the _state of your installation_ (i. e. the tarball from the DVD) and use that. Do not update it. In this case, you can easily mix compiling from source and installing via binary packages. This alternative is not suggested now. :-) > While this is not > exactly a catastrophe, it is rankling to say the least. Maybe some > gentleman has faced this problem and has sorted it out. If anyone can > provide a hint on how to fix the problem, I would be grateful indeed. Maybe an update of FF and TB would be sufficient, so it can link to the present (or at least expected) libraries accordingly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
