Re: Questions about ports
Hello again. Browsing the freebsd list, I have found this interesting link that explains it great: http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html Thank you very much. Ramiro. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello FreeBSD friends I have a question about ports. I have installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a AMD 400 MHz machine with 64 MB RAM, so it is not a fast machine for compiling big programs! :-). The problem I am going to tell you, happened to me several weeks ago into another slower machine (Pentium 75 in which there is no OS now), and I can not remember some details, so I am sorry if I am not too acurate. I suppose I will run into this problem again with the AMD machine so I would like to understand it better. 1- I installed mozilla 1.7.2-2,2 from the packages on the CDROM. 2- I cvsuped the ports collection. 3- I installed and compiled some programs from the updated ports collection. 4- Mozilla did not work anymore cause in needs atk-1.6.1. Mozilla in the package is 1.7.2_2,2 and depends on atk-1.6.1 If I install programs from the updated ports tree, atk-1.8.0 was installed for another port and atk-1.6.1 removed, but mozilla on the CDROM package wants atk-1.6.1. So, If I try to install again from the cdrom, it cant cause atk-1.8.0 is installed. Compilling mozilla in this slow machine is not reasonable, so: Can I download a more updated mozilla package acording to my updated ports collection? I have browsed pkg_add man pages and believe that the environment variables PACKAGESITE and PACKAGEROOT need to be set so that pkg_add can fetch more updated packages. Am I right? Where should they point to? I will use pkg_add only for big programs, and I can use the ports collectio to compile the little ones. Many thanks. Ramiro. Hey friends!, am I on your e-mail black list? ;-) It is strange that nobody has answered my question. I have been investigating further. Do you think I should download packages (not ports) from 5-stable instead from 5.3 release? I mean, are 5-stable packages closer to an up to date ports collection? I am waiting for a good advice before messing my ports! Thanks. Ramiro. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello FreeBSD friends I have a question about ports. I have installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a AMD 400 MHz machine with 64 MB RAM, so it is not a fast machine for compiling big programs! :-). The problem I am going to tell you, happened to me several weeks ago into another slower machine (Pentium 75 in which there is no OS now), and I can not remember some details, so I am sorry if I am not too acurate. I suppose I will run into this problem again with the AMD machine so I would like to understand it better. 1- I installed mozilla 1.7.2-2,2 from the packages on the CDROM. 2- I cvsuped the ports collection. 3- I installed and compiled some programs from the updated ports collection. 4- Mozilla did not work anymore cause in needs atk-1.6.1. Mozilla in the package is 1.7.2_2,2 and depends on atk-1.6.1 If I install programs from the updated ports tree, atk-1.8.0 was installed for another port and atk-1.6.1 removed, but mozilla on the CDROM package wants atk-1.6.1. So, If I try to install again from the cdrom, it cant cause atk-1.8.0 is installed. Compilling mozilla in this slow machine is not reasonable, so: Can I download a more updated mozilla package acording to my updated ports collection? I have browsed pkg_add man pages and believe that the environment variables PACKAGESITE and PACKAGEROOT need to be set so that pkg_add can fetch more updated packages. Am I right? Where should they point to? If you are going to mess around with those, it's probably easier to go directly to one of the FTP sites and download the package by hand. For example, on ftp2.es.freebsd.org, you could get the package file pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/mozilla-1.7.5_1,2.tbz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is strange that nobody has answered my question. I have been investigating further. Do you think I should download packages (not ports) from 5-stable instead from 5.3 release? I mean, are 5-stable packages closer to an up to date ports collection? Of course. 5.3 release will not change. There is also some risk that -STABLE ports won't work on your -RELEASE system, but as long as you have the base system of the most recent stable release, it should be fine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
On Monday 21 February 2005 06:15 am, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello FreeBSD friends I have a question about ports. I have installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a AMD 400 MHz machine with 64 MB RAM, so it is not a fast machine for compiling big programs! :-). The problem I am going to tell you, happened to me several weeks ago into another slower machine (Pentium 75 in which there is no OS now), and I can not remember some details, so I am sorry if I am not too acurate. I suppose I will run into this problem again with the AMD machine so I would like to understand it better. 1- I installed mozilla 1.7.2-2,2 from the packages on the CDROM. 2- I cvsuped the ports collection. 3- I installed and compiled some programs from the updated ports collection. 4- Mozilla did not work anymore cause in needs atk-1.6.1. Mozilla in the package is 1.7.2_2,2 and depends on atk-1.6.1 If I install programs from the updated ports tree, atk-1.8.0 was installed for another port and atk-1.6.1 removed, but mozilla on the CDROM package wants atk-1.6.1. So, If I try to install again from the cdrom, it cant cause atk-1.8.0 is installed. Compilling mozilla in this slow machine is not reasonable, so: Can I download a more updated mozilla package acording to my updated ports collection? I have browsed pkg_add man pages and believe that the environment variables PACKAGESITE and PACKAGEROOT need to be set so that pkg_add can fetch more updated packages. Am I right? Where should they point to? I will use pkg_add only for big programs, and I can use the ports collectio to compile the little ones. Many thanks. Ramiro. Ramiro, If you're not going to compile from the ports tree, or use portupgrade or portmanager, then you will have to use pkg_add. Yoy don't have to set PACKAGESITE and/or PACKAGEROOT. You will probably have to do pkg_delete mozilla-1.7.2_2,2 to remove mozilla from your installed packages. Then you can do package_add -r mozilla, and it should download and install mozilla and required packages that haven't already been installed. Is there some reason you would rather use mozilla than, say, www/firefox and mail/thunderbird? Don -- Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
I think the best you can do is install linux-mozillafirebird. I'm using it for a couple of months now, because I had the same problems every time. Wouter van Rooij ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
- Original Message - From: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Questions about ports If you are going to mess around with those, it's probably easier to go directly to one of the FTP sites and download the package by hand. For example, on ftp2.es.freebsd.org, you could get the package file pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/mozilla-1.7.5_1,2.tbz Thanks Lowell, I am sorry, I am now at a winbugs computer at University. ;-) IIRC, I will have to donwload manually the packages in wich mozilla depends on. That was the reason I was looking for the PACKGEROOT and PACKAGESITE environment variables. I am right? Ramiro. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
I must have missed the first message. Easy to do when there are several hundred per day. ok, yes, this mailing list is high traffic and that also happens to me. :-) I would cvsup the latest ports collection. (There is no 5-stable ports collection, the same set of ports works for all supported releases, which is generally 4.11, 5.3, and -current, though that will change as we release. In most cases ports will work with older versions too) then install either portupgrade or portmanager (/usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade or /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager) I'm not sure which is better. I use portupgrade myself, but portmanager is more likely to be able to solve this problem. Whichever you choose, let it run for a few days (check often though, sometimes it sit waiting for you to set some options!). That should get everything up to date. At least portmanager as the ability to use packages if you prefer. While your machine is slow, I compile everything on a ppro-200, so it isn't impossible to compile on your machine. Ok, thank you very much. As you say, perhaps I will compile everything, as I do not need too many packages for this machine. This computer will be mainly used for browsing the Internet and reading emails, so, I think I can spend some hours to compile firefox or thunderbird. I will take a look to portmanager and portupgrade and see what I can do also. Thank you very much. Ramiro. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
- Original Message - From: Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Questions about ports On Monday 21 February 2005 06:15 am, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello FreeBSD friends I have a question about ports. I have installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a AMD 400 MHz machine with 64 MB RAM, so it is not a fast machine for compiling big programs! :-). The problem I am going to tell you, happened to me several weeks ago into another slower machine (Pentium 75 in which there is no OS now), and I can not remember some details, so I am sorry if I am not too acurate. I suppose I will run into this problem again with the AMD machine so I would like to understand it better. 1- I installed mozilla 1.7.2-2,2 from the packages on the CDROM. 2- I cvsuped the ports collection. 3- I installed and compiled some programs from the updated ports collection. 4- Mozilla did not work anymore cause in needs atk-1.6.1. Mozilla in the package is 1.7.2_2,2 and depends on atk-1.6.1 If I install programs from the updated ports tree, atk-1.8.0 was installed for another port and atk-1.6.1 removed, but mozilla on the CDROM package wants atk-1.6.1. So, If I try to install again from the cdrom, it cant cause atk-1.8.0 is installed. Compilling mozilla in this slow machine is not reasonable, so: Can I download a more updated mozilla package acording to my updated ports collection? I have browsed pkg_add man pages and believe that the environment variables PACKAGESITE and PACKAGEROOT need to be set so that pkg_add can fetch more updated packages. Am I right? Where should they point to? I will use pkg_add only for big programs, and I can use the ports collectio to compile the little ones. Many thanks. Ramiro. Ramiro, If you're not going to compile from the ports tree, or use portupgrade or portmanager, then you will have to use pkg_add. Yoy don't have to set PACKAGESITE and/or PACKAGEROOT. You will probably have to do pkg_delete mozilla-1.7.2_2,2 to remove mozilla from your installed packages. Then you can do package_add -r mozilla, and it should download and install mozilla and required packages that haven't already been installed. I think I did that on the old pentium 75 MHz machine and mozilla refused to install if I did not remove the new atk package. As I needed the new atk for updated ports, old mozilla package on the cdrom could not be installed. Is there some reason you would rather use mozilla than, say, www/firefox and mail/thunderbird? No reason. I installed mozilla cause it was the only modern graphical browser that I found on the CDROM, but I prefer firefox and thunderbird as separate packages. I also love the links family mainly for text browsing. I know that links also have graphics suppport, but it is not as intuitive as mozilla for my mother ;-). Thank you very much for your help. Ramiro. Don -- Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
- Original Message - From: Wouter van Rooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Questions about ports I think the best you can do is install linux-mozillafirebird. I'm using it for a couple of months now, because I had the same problems every time. Thanks, but I prefer using native FreeBSD applications if possible. Ramiro. Wouter van Rooij ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Questions about ports
Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sorry, I am now at a winbugs computer at University. ;-) Which probably has fast Internet access, and might be a decent place to FTP from; but you would have to do it by hand, through an FTP client. IIRC, I will have to donwload manually the packages in wich mozilla depends on. That was the reason I was looking for the PACKGEROOT and PACKAGESITE environment variables. I am right? You could do it that way, but you need to know the exact URL of the package file. [PACKAGEROOT doesn't help; it only specifies the host to download from.] You could automatically build the URL in a script, much the way that pkg_add does it internally. I'd still recommend building everything from ports, because you avoid the case of having some packages depending on a slightly different version of a dependency than another package. It takes a long time to build, but who cares -- you don't need to pay attention. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
