Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.20 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-12-25 Thread Jens Jahnke
Hi,

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:27:11 +0200
David Naylor  wrote:

DN> Since it is possible to install the existing pkg 
DN> packages in a pkgng environment (which I do) this is not a high
DN> priority.

is there a documentation for that? I searched the pkgng docs but found
nothing regarding installation of "old" packages or converting them to
a newer version.

Regards,

Jens

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Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.20 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-12-25 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 26/12/2012 07:27, Jens Jahnke wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:27:11 +0200
> David Naylor  wrote:
> 
> DN> Since it is possible to install the existing pkg 
> DN> packages in a pkgng environment (which I do) this is not a high
> DN> priority.
> 
> is there a documentation for that? I searched the pkgng docs but found
> nothing regarding installation of "old" packages or converting them to
> a newer version.

There's nothing in pkg_tools to stop it working on a pkgng-enabled
system.  This does not mean that installing pkg_tools packages in that
situation is in any way supported or encouraged.  If you do this, you
will create a mess on your systems and store up a nasty job of sorting
it all out for yourself.  It really isn't a good idea.

I know there is a lack of availability of official pre-compiled packages
from the FreeBSD project at the moment.  This is an unfortunate
consequence of the security problem in November, and all I can do is ask
for your patience as the situation gets sorted out.

In the mean time, the best advice is to compile your own.  Either
directly from ports, by using portmaster or portupgrade or else by using
an off-line package building system like poudriere or tinderbox[*].

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] You need tinderbox-devel for pkgng support, or the upcoming 4.0.0
release.

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Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.20 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-12-26 Thread Jens Jahnke
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:54:58 +
Matthew Seaman  wrote:

MS> On 26/12/2012 07:27, Jens Jahnke wrote:
MS> > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:27:11 +0200
MS> > David Naylor  wrote:
MS> > 
MS> > DN> Since it is possible to install the existing pkg 
MS> > DN> packages in a pkgng environment (which I do) this is not a
MS> > DN> high priority.
MS> > 
MS> > is there a documentation for that? I searched the pkgng docs but
MS> > found nothing regarding installation of "old" packages or
MS> > converting them to a newer version.
MS> 
MS> There's nothing in pkg_tools to stop it working on a pkgng-enabled
MS> system.  This does not mean that installing pkg_tools packages in
MS> that situation is in any way supported or encouraged.  If you do
MS> this, you will create a mess on your systems and store up a nasty
MS> job of sorting it all out for yourself.  It really isn't a good
MS> idea.

Thanks for the advise. I guessed in that direction. So I'll be patient
and wait for packages because I've never been able to build wine
(64bit) myself from source. I just need it for some old games anyway. ;)

Regards,

Jens

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Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.20 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-12-28 Thread David Naylor
On 26 Dec 2012 9:28 AM, "Jens Jahnke"  wrote:
>
> Hi,

Hi,

> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:27:11 +0200
> David Naylor  wrote:
>
> DN> Since it is possible to install the existing pkg
> DN> packages in a pkgng environment (which I do) this is not a high
> DN> priority.
>
> is there a documentation for that? I searched the pkgng docs but found
> nothing regarding installation of "old" packages or converting them to
> a newer version.

Use the old `pkg_ng` command to install the package. As long as the files
installed with the old and the new package tools are mutually exclusive you
shouldn't have a problem.

If you patch your ports tree with the wine-fbsd64 diff then it is possible
to use `pkg2ng` to convert to the pkgng format. (Although I have never
tested that, see documentation for pkg2ng and `pkg create`).

Regards
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Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.20 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-12-28 Thread Jens Jahnke
Hi,

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 07:42:02 +0200
David Naylor  wrote:

DN> > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:27:11 +0200
DN> > David Naylor  wrote:
DN> >
DN> > DN> Since it is possible to install the existing pkg
DN> > DN> packages in a pkgng environment (which I do) this is not a
DN> > DN> high priority.
DN> >
DN> > is there a documentation for that? I searched the pkgng docs but
DN> > found nothing regarding installation of "old" packages or
DN> > converting them to a newer version.
DN> 
DN> Use the old `pkg_ng` command to install the package. As long as the
DN> files installed with the old and the new package tools are mutually
DN> exclusive you shouldn't have a problem.
DN> 
DN> If you patch your ports tree with the wine-fbsd64 diff then it is
DN> possible to use `pkg2ng` to convert to the pkgng format. (Although
DN> I have never tested that, see documentation for pkg2ng and `pkg
DN> create`).

meanwhile I've succeeded in building wine from ports using a 32bit
system under /compat/i386 following the instructions in the freebsd
wiki. I needed some tweaks which I documented here: 
https://makandracards.com/jan0sch/13429-installing-wine-under-freebsd-8-amd64

Regards,

Jens

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