Re: X server crashes on exit

2008-09-27 Thread Glen Barber
> I use the default install and I don't know what driver to get or how to
> build it.. but surely if you have the wrong drivers X will not start rather
> than not stop?

X will start, but odd things will happen (such as your mouse not
working, distorted resolutions, etc).

Installing the Xorg meta-packages will install a bunch of 'default'
graphics drivers, such as nv.  These drivers are used if the proper
driver for your card are not installed.


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Re: X server crashes on exit

2008-09-26 Thread Herman Te
In case this helps anybody, I fixed the 2 min startup by adding my machine's
hostname to /etc/hosts, and the crash problem is fixed by installing the
latest xf86-video-savage port. I wonder why the sysinstall doesnt know how
to figure this out when installing and build the prot for me?

Well anyway that was a good introduction to FreeBSD.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Glen Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> No, a 2 minute startup of Xorg is not normal.
>
> What kind of video card?  Do you have the proper drivers for your
> video card installed?  I've noticed on several flavors of Linux with
> my particular card (nVidia Geforce 8600 or something) that if I do not
> have the correct nVidia drivers, exiting X results in a system lockup.
>
> --
> Glen Barber
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Re: X server crashes on exit

2008-09-26 Thread Herman Te
Kevin,

As the problem only occurs after I exit X the log file isn't very helpful as
to what happens after. The last line is

(II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse

However it seems to be cycling through various resolution modes before
starting, but no errors/warnings except for these lines

(II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 495 64KB banks (31680kB)
(II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-62.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 55.00-75.00 Hz
(II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using maximum pixel clock of 100.00 MHz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size

(II) VESA(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 31680 kB
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR Family BIOS
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 2.0
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: S3 Garphics Incorporated.
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: VBE 3.0
(II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Rev 0.0
(WW) VESA(0): Failed to set write-combining range (0xe000,0x1ef)
(II) VESA(0): virtual address = 0x28964000,
physical address = 0xe000, size = 32440320
(==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear

This last line is repeated about 200 times throughtout the file.

Glen,

It is an onboard graphics, some sort of VIA chipset. scanpci gives this

pci bus 0x cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3116
 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0xb091
 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
pci bus 0x cardnum 0x11 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3177
 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x5333 device 0x8d04
 S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
I use the default install and I don't know what driver to get or how to
build it.. but surely if you have the wrong drivers X will not start rather
than not stop?
Any suggestions?
Herman
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Have you looked at the logfiles? (/var/log/Xorg.$n.log)
>
>
> Kevin Kinsey
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Re: X server crashes on exit

2008-09-25 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Herman Te wrote:

Hi,

I installed 7.0 from the CD with X. Now this is the first time I ever used
FreeBSD or X, I know a bit from linux but I usually use command line only.
So when the system finished installing I logged in and typed startx. First
time it took over 2 mins (is this normal) but eventually worked, and loaded
3 green terminals and a small clock in the corner. I don't know what this is
and the mouse was not working so I tried to exit with the ctrl+alt+backspace
but screen went black and the entire system hung - I know this as my remote
session aborted and the keyboard led stopped responding too - still no
response after 30 mins.

I realise that i need a window manager so I tried to install gnome from CD.
However it is the same problem and the system hung when I tried to quit back
to command line mode. After hours on google I found how to fix the mouse and
decide to try building fluxbox wm from the ports. Before starting the X, I
ran Xorg -configure and echo exec startfluxbox > .xinitrc. So now it starts
up properly and works well but still I cannot exit the X. This is a big
problem because the machine has no case so I must bend down and touch the
reset pins with a penknife :P Also as the disks are not unmounted there are
errors and one of the times my user account was deleted, so I had to
reinstall the whole system.

As I said I have never configure or install an X windows system before, and
I was googling for ages. Could anyone give me some idea of how to diagnose
and fix this problem?
Thanks
Herman


Have you looked at the logfiles? (/var/log/Xorg.$n.log)


Kevin Kinsey
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Re: X server crashes on exit

2008-09-25 Thread Glen Barber
I should note on my last message, that I specified Linux because some
don't install the proper drivers by default.  With FreeBSD + Xserver
on this box, it was always a habit for me to compile the drivers -- so
I never noticed if I would experience this undesired behavior in *BSD.

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Re: X server crashes on exit

2008-09-25 Thread Glen Barber
No, a 2 minute startup of Xorg is not normal.

What kind of video card?  Do you have the proper drivers for your
video card installed?  I've noticed on several flavors of Linux with
my particular card (nVidia Geforce 8600 or something) that if I do not
have the correct nVidia drivers, exiting X results in a system lockup.

-- 
Glen Barber
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