Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-23 Thread Kent Stewart
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 04:59 pm, Darren Henderson wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Rob wrote:
  I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to be
  able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to
  boot into Windows to do it.

 While not directly related to the point its possible to listen to
 realaudio streams just fine without linux compatibility or resorting
 to windows. Look into mplayer, mplayer-plugin, xine, kmplayer,
 gmplayer and perhaps even xmms.



Use the location menu item on RealPlayer and add
http://66.246.59.69:8700

You probably won't understand it but Xeoax, Oaxaca is the only realaudio 
stream that I listen to.

Kent

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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-23 Thread Darren Henderson

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Kent Stewart wrote:


Use the location menu item on RealPlayer and add
http://66.246.59.69:8700

You probably won't understand it but Xeoax, Oaxaca is the only realaudio
stream that I listen to.



kmplayer and gmplayer handle it perfectly. Xine handles it but doesn't 
sound quite as good (lot of tinkering that can be done there though).


Totem plays it but its only tolerable if you really like chipmunks.

-Darren

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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-23 Thread Kent Stewart
On Friday 23 December 2005 07:57 am, Darren Henderson wrote:
 On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Kent Stewart wrote:
  Use the location menu item on RealPlayer and add
  http://66.246.59.69:8700
 
  You probably won't understand it but Xeoax, Oaxaca is the only
  realaudio stream that I listen to.

 kmplayer and gmplayer handle it perfectly. Xine handles it but
 doesn't sound quite as good (lot of tinkering that can be done there
 though).

 Totem plays it but its only tolerable if you really like chipmunks.


Even mplayer will play it if you get past the message about 
~/.mplayer/subfont.tttf.

If you can play it, the application works over the network. I have been 
known to record the news from Oaxaca, México and burn a CD for friends 
from there. It is a kind of poke in the ribs to get them on the 
Internet. It hasn't worked yet but I keep trying :).

If realplayer won't work with firefox, the relationship between firefox 
preferences  download actions and audio/x-pn-realaudio is screwed up. 
You should be able to point the firefox file action to anything that 
will play a realaudio file type. This is also true for mp3 file 
actions.

Before I did any of this, I added links to nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt 
in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins 
and /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins

I don't know which one made the difference. I tweaked until I could see 
the plugins in mozilla. I am also using the default libmap.conf for the 
version [56]-stable.

At any rate, firefox-1.5_5,1 will play *.ram files on all of my systems 
(with sound cards, speakers and either 5-stable or 6-stable) when I 
visit websites with realaudio *.ram files. The only problem is that the 
realaudio sites I listen to are folklóric sites from Columbia and 
Venezuela. This includes winamp playlists using xmms.

I haven't made mozilla work but then I don't miss the capability 
either :).

Kent

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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-21 Thread Darren Henderson

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Rob wrote:


I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to be
able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to boot
into Windows to do it.


While not directly related to the point its possible to listen to 
realaudio streams just fine without linux compatibility or resorting to 
windows. Look into mplayer, mplayer-plugin, xine, kmplayer, gmplayer and 
perhaps even xmms.



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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-19 Thread Rob
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:12:07 -0900
Beecher Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 19 December 2005 07:41 am, dick hoogendijk wrote:
  On 18 Dec Beecher Rintoul wrote:
   On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:16 pm, Dev Tugnait wrote:
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 01:06 -0500, James Bailie wrote:
 Dev Tugnait wrote:
   The port is not broken cvsup your tree

 Yes it is.  While some things work, it still does not create the
 proper symbolic link for the acrobat plugin, nor is the path
 for it correct in the sample libmap.confs.  Beecher's fix will
 correct.
   
The only thing it doesnt do is create symbolic links which does not
mark a port as BROKEN for one, secondly why would you remove your
browser_plugins dir?
  
   That was a typo, read the followup I sent immediately following the
   first message. Secondly putting plugins in browser_linux_plugins does
   break firefox and mozilla. I would call that broken where I come from.
   Users should not have to move things that were installed in the wrong
   place. That's the job of the port.
 
  You were very quick with your correction of the typo. Faster than some
  of us read their mails ;-)
  Secondly, I totally agree to the statement that the port is broken
  You have too much to manually correct.
  At the time I was not aware of the facts and lost quite some time
  finding out. If you know, it's not that kind of a deal.
 
 Even though I'm not a programmer, I'm looking into fixing that port. I've 
 tried contacting the maintainer and didn't get any response. If I manage to 
 get it working I'll file a PR. The linuxpluginwrapper has been broken since 
 the last upgrade, acroread way before that and it took me many hours to find 
 all the fixes necessary (thank you everyone who helped me with that issue). 
 If nothing else, I'll write all those changes into a script which will do it 
 automatically. I would think this would be a priority if FreeBSD is going to 
 be a viable desktop alternative. It's exactly this kind of situation that 
 causes new users to give up and go with the penguin, or worse go back to 
 micro$oft. I can't even tell someone to read the documentation, because there 
 isn't any. These fixes were scattered throughout many email threads that span 
 many months.
 
 If anyone needs a copy of my work-around it can be found at:
 
 http://akparadise.byethost33.com/freebsd/linuxpluginwrapper_how_to.txt
 
 Just my .02
 
 Beech
 
I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to be
able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to boot
into Windows to do it.

The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts and
it tells me to fix fontconfig.  I never had problems with fonts before
fontconfig came into being.  I really have no idea why it exists.

Moreover, I have no interest in learning XML, then cutting and pasting
various config files together out of what little documentation exists
for fontconfig.  The documentation is so poor that I have no idea what
I am doing anyway.   Searches on Google and the mailing lists were no
help either.

It is very frustrating.  I concur that some of these programs are just
not desktop ready.  At this rate I am never going to be able to get rid
of XP on my laptop.

Rob.
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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-19 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Monday 19 December 2005 18:41, Rob wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:12:07 -0900

 Beecher Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 19 December 2005 07:41 am, dick hoogendijk wrote:
   On 18 Dec Beecher Rintoul wrote:
On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:16 pm, Dev Tugnait wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 01:06 -0500, James Bailie wrote:
  Dev Tugnait wrote:
The port is not broken cvsup your tree
 
  Yes it is.  While some things work, it still does not create the
  proper symbolic link for the acrobat plugin, nor is the path
  for it correct in the sample libmap.confs.  Beecher's fix will
  correct.

 The only thing it doesnt do is create symbolic links which does not
 mark a port as BROKEN for one, secondly why would you remove your
 browser_plugins dir?
   
That was a typo, read the followup I sent immediately following the
first message. Secondly putting plugins in browser_linux_plugins does
break firefox and mozilla. I would call that broken where I come
from. Users should not have to move things that were installed in the
wrong place. That's the job of the port.
  
   You were very quick with your correction of the typo. Faster than some
   of us read their mails ;-)
   Secondly, I totally agree to the statement that the port is broken
   You have too much to manually correct.
   At the time I was not aware of the facts and lost quite some time
   finding out. If you know, it's not that kind of a deal.
 
  Even though I'm not a programmer, I'm looking into fixing that port. I've
  tried contacting the maintainer and didn't get any response. If I manage
  to get it working I'll file a PR. The linuxpluginwrapper has been broken
  since the last upgrade, acroread way before that and it took me many
  hours to find all the fixes necessary (thank you everyone who helped me
  with that issue). If nothing else, I'll write all those changes into a
  script which will do it automatically. I would think this would be a
  priority if FreeBSD is going to be a viable desktop alternative. It's
  exactly this kind of situation that causes new users to give up and go
  with the penguin, or worse go back to micro$oft. I can't even tell
  someone to read the documentation, because there isn't any. These fixes
  were scattered throughout many email threads that span many months.
 
  If anyone needs a copy of my work-around it can be found at:
 
  http://akparadise.byethost33.com/freebsd/linuxpluginwrapper_how_to.txt
 
  Just my .02
 
  Beech

 I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to be
 able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to boot
 into Windows to do it.

 The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts and
 it tells me to fix fontconfig.  I never had problems with fonts before
 fontconfig came into being.  I really have no idea why it exists.

 Moreover, I have no interest in learning XML, then cutting and pasting
 various config files together out of what little documentation exists
 for fontconfig.  The documentation is so poor that I have no idea what
 I am doing anyway.   Searches on Google and the mailing lists were no
 help either.

 It is very frustrating.  I concur that some of these programs are just
 not desktop ready.  At this rate I am never going to be able to get rid
 of XP on my laptop.

 Rob.

If desktop users only donated a quarter of what they pay for XP to open source 
projects I'm sure priorities would change drastically.  As it is we get way 
more than we pay for.

-Mike


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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-19 Thread Robert Huff

Rob writes:

  I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to
  be able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have
  to boot into Windows to do it.
  
  The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts
  and it tells me to fix fontconfig.  I never had problems with
  fonts before fontconfig came into being.  I really have no idea
  why it exists.

For the record, I am currently listening to NPR (the first
thing I could find) using multimedia/linux-realplayer on

FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Dec  3 23:27:16 EST 2005

I have no idea who fontconfig exists, but it sounds like you
need to reinstall.


Robert Huff



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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-19 Thread Beecher Rintoul
On Monday 19 December 2005 05:41 pm, Rob wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:12:07 -0900

 Beecher Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 19 December 2005 07:41 am, dick hoogendijk wrote:
   On 18 Dec Beecher Rintoul wrote:
On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:16 pm, Dev Tugnait wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 01:06 -0500, James Bailie wrote:
  Dev Tugnait wrote:
The port is not broken cvsup your tree
 
  Yes it is.  While some things work, it still does not create the
  proper symbolic link for the acrobat plugin, nor is the path
  for it correct in the sample libmap.confs.  Beecher's fix will
  correct.

 The only thing it doesnt do is create symbolic links which does not
 mark a port as BROKEN for one, secondly why would you remove your
 browser_plugins dir?
   
That was a typo, read the followup I sent immediately following the
first message. Secondly putting plugins in browser_linux_plugins does
break firefox and mozilla. I would call that broken where I come
from. Users should not have to move things that were installed in the
wrong place. That's the job of the port.
  
   You were very quick with your correction of the typo. Faster than some
   of us read their mails ;-)
   Secondly, I totally agree to the statement that the port is broken
   You have too much to manually correct.
   At the time I was not aware of the facts and lost quite some time
   finding out. If you know, it's not that kind of a deal.
 
  Even though I'm not a programmer, I'm looking into fixing that port. I've
  tried contacting the maintainer and didn't get any response. If I manage
  to get it working I'll file a PR. The linuxpluginwrapper has been broken
  since the last upgrade, acroread way before that and it took me many
  hours to find all the fixes necessary (thank you everyone who helped me
  with that issue). If nothing else, I'll write all those changes into a
  script which will do it automatically. I would think this would be a
  priority if FreeBSD is going to be a viable desktop alternative. It's
  exactly this kind of situation that causes new users to give up and go
  with the penguin, or worse go back to micro$oft. I can't even tell
  someone to read the documentation, because there isn't any. These fixes
  were scattered throughout many email threads that span many months.
 
  If anyone needs a copy of my work-around it can be found at:
 
  http://akparadise.byethost33.com/freebsd/linuxpluginwrapper_how_to.txt
 
  Just my .02
 
  Beech

 I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to be
 able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to boot
 into Windows to do it.

 The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts and
 it tells me to fix fontconfig.  I never had problems with fonts before
 fontconfig came into being.  I really have no idea why it exists.

I have no problems running realplayer installed from the ports. The helix 
plugin doesn't work with Firefox or Mozilla, but realplay works standalone. I 
would start by making sure your ports are up to date and reinstalling 
linux-fontconfig. If that doesn't work portupgrade -rf linux-realplayer and 
it will rebuild everything that depends on it. Also do a pkgdb -F to make 
sure your dependency database is OK. I didn't have any config problems with 
fontconfig, and didn't have to tweak anything. Sounds like something else is 
wrong.


 Moreover, I have no interest in learning XML, then cutting and pasting
 various config files together out of what little documentation exists
 for fontconfig.  The documentation is so poor that I have no idea what
 I am doing anyway.   Searches on Google and the mailing lists were no
 help either.

 It is very frustrating.  I concur that some of these programs are just
 not desktop ready.  At this rate I am never going to be able to get rid
 of XP on my laptop.

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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig

2005-12-19 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 19 December 2005 07:24 pm, Beecher Rintoul wrote:
 On Monday 19 December 2005 05:41 pm, Rob wrote:
  On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:12:07 -0900
 
  Beecher Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Monday 19 December 2005 07:41 am, dick hoogendijk wrote:
On 18 Dec Beecher Rintoul wrote:
 On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:16 pm, Dev Tugnait wrote:
  On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 01:06 -0500, James Bailie wrote:
   Dev Tugnait wrote:
 The port is not broken cvsup your tree
  
   Yes it is.  While some things work, it still does not
   create the proper symbolic link for the acrobat plugin,
   nor is the path for it correct in the sample
   libmap.confs.  Beecher's fix will correct.
 
  The only thing it doesnt do is create symbolic links which
  does not mark a port as BROKEN for one, secondly why would
  you remove your browser_plugins dir?

 That was a typo, read the followup I sent immediately
 following the first message. Secondly putting plugins in
 browser_linux_plugins does break firefox and mozilla. I would
 call that broken where I come from. Users should not have to
 move things that were installed in the wrong place. That's
 the job of the port.
   
You were very quick with your correction of the typo. Faster
than some of us read their mails ;-)
Secondly, I totally agree to the statement that the port is
broken You have too much to manually correct.
At the time I was not aware of the facts and lost quite some
time finding out. If you know, it's not that kind of a deal.
  
   Even though I'm not a programmer, I'm looking into fixing that
   port. I've tried contacting the maintainer and didn't get any
   response. If I manage to get it working I'll file a PR. The
   linuxpluginwrapper has been broken since the last upgrade,
   acroread way before that and it took me many hours to find all
   the fixes necessary (thank you everyone who helped me with that
   issue). If nothing else, I'll write all those changes into a
   script which will do it automatically. I would think this would
   be a priority if FreeBSD is going to be a viable desktop
   alternative. It's exactly this kind of situation that causes new
   users to give up and go with the penguin, or worse go back to
   micro$oft. I can't even tell someone to read the documentation,
   because there isn't any. These fixes were scattered throughout
   many email threads that span many months.
  
   If anyone needs a copy of my work-around it can be found at:
  
   http://akparadise.byethost33.com/freebsd/linuxpluginwrapper_how_t
  o.txt
  
   Just my .02
  
   Beech
 
  I can sympathize about these linux program problems.  I want to be
  able to listen to Real Audio streams, but as it is now I have to
  boot into Windows to do it.
 
  The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts
  and it tells me to fix fontconfig.  I never had problems with fonts
  before fontconfig came into being.  I really have no idea why it
  exists.

 I have no problems running realplayer installed from the ports. The
 helix plugin doesn't work with Firefox or Mozilla, but realplay works
 standalone. I would start by making sure your ports are up to date
 and reinstalling linux-fontconfig. If that doesn't work portupgrade
 -rf linux-realplayer and it will rebuild everything that depends on
 it. Also do a pkgdb -F to make sure your dependency database is OK. I
 didn't have any config problems with fontconfig, and didn't have to
 tweak anything. Sounds like something else is wrong.

I have no problem with the plugins. What I have is
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins/nphelix.so
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins/nphelix.xpt
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/nphelix.so
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/nphelix.xpt
/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so
/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.xpt

Most of them are links and I don't know which directory is the important 
one but I click on an ram and it plays.

Kent

  Moreover, I have no interest in learning XML, then cutting and
  pasting various config files together out of what little
  documentation exists for fontconfig.  The documentation is so poor
  that I have no idea what I am doing anyway.   Searches on Google
  and the mailing lists were no help either.
 
  It is very frustrating.  I concur that some of these programs are
  just not desktop ready.  At this rate I am never going to be able
  to get rid of XP on my laptop.

-- 
Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

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Re: flash plugin in 6.0 / realplayer fontconfig (FIXED)

2005-12-19 Thread Beecher Rintoul
SNIP
  
   The linux-realplayer won't start because it can't find any fonts and
   it tells me to fix fontconfig.  I never had problems with fonts before
   fontconfig came into being.  I really have no idea why it exists.
 
  I have no problems running realplayer installed from the ports. The helix
  plugin doesn't work with Firefox or Mozilla, but realplay works
  standalone. I would start by making sure your ports are up to date and
  reinstalling linux-fontconfig. If that doesn't work portupgrade -rf
  linux-realplayer and it will rebuild everything that depends on it. Also
  do a pkgdb -F to make sure your dependency database is OK. I didn't have
  any config problems with fontconfig, and didn't have to tweak anything.
  Sounds like something else is wrong.

 Thank you Beecher.

 I did a recursive portupgrade and it works now.  Hurray!

 Rob.

You're welcome. I always upgrade anything linux recursively. Since most of the 
apps are packages you sometimes end up with either bad or wrong lib links if 
you don't.

Beech

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