Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox

2007-01-27 Thread Oliver Iberien
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 Hi there:

 I see the new flash9 for linux has been included in ports, so I
 installed it - but how do I enable the plugin in Firefox? Does it work
 or does it crash?

 Thanks, Erik
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I've tried installing this, too. The included readme addresses linux, and 
there is no indication of what is supposed to be done with libmap.conf, which 
leaves me in the dark. Has anyone figured this out?

Thanks,

Oliver
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Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox

2007-01-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Oliver Iberien wrote:
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 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:41:37 +0100
 From: Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi there:

 I see the new flash9 for linux has been included in ports, so I
 installed it - but how do I enable the plugin in Firefox? Does it work
 or does it crash?

 Thanks, Erik
 --
 Ph: +34.666334818  web: http://www.locolomo.org
 
 I've tried installing this, too. The included readme addresses linux, and 
 there is no indication of what is supposed to be done with libmap.conf, which 
 leaves me in the dark. Has anyone figured this out?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Oliver

I grabbed the symbols table for the flash player, but unfortunately I'm
clueless as to determining what the hell the original
linuxplugin-wrapper dev had in mind, so I can't really move on further
than that. I can provide my info though so someone who does have an idea
can proceed on, if necessary.

If you use any sound requiring flash modules, Flash player will make
Firefox ( / Seamonkey?) segfault and core dump; this is true for
linux-firefox with (at least) only the default config. This is because
(like some have mentioned before in previous threads) flash uses ALSA,
which is linux's answer to getting rid of OSS. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture.

With that aside, Flash 9 is incredibly unstable with linux emulation.
Flash 9 under Linux worked fine on Gentoo when I ran the beta
version--other than flash animations just being a bit slow.

rant
It's a pain in the ass that Adobe / Macromedia had to invent a
technology that so many web developers sought, just because of its
ease of developing; if only the developers sought to learn CSS and a
bit of proper javascripting, then stuff would be easier for viewing on
all platforms.

(a few choice four-/five-letter words combined with other words and
grumbling)
/rant
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Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox

2007-01-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Oliver Iberien wrote:
 On Thursday 25 January 2007 23:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:41:37 +0100
 From: Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: how to enable linux flash player in firefox
 To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Hi there:

 I see the new flash9 for linux has been included in ports, so I
 installed it - but how do I enable the plugin in Firefox? Does it work
 or does it crash?

 Thanks, Erik
 --
 Ph: +34.666334818  web: http://www.locolomo.org
 I've tried installing this, too. The included readme addresses linux, and 
 there is no indication of what is supposed to be done with libmap.conf, 
 which 
 leaves me in the dark. Has anyone figured this out?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Oliver
 
 I grabbed the symbols table for the flash player, but unfortunately I'm
 clueless as to determining what the hell the original
 linuxplugin-wrapper dev had in mind, so I can't really move on further
 than that. I can provide my info though so someone who does have an idea
 can proceed on, if necessary.
 
 If you use any sound requiring flash modules, Flash player will make
 Firefox ( / Seamonkey?) segfault and core dump; this is true for
 linux-firefox with (at least) only the default config. This is because
 (like some have mentioned before in previous threads) flash uses ALSA,
 which is linux's answer to getting rid of OSS. See:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture.
 
 With that aside, Flash 9 is incredibly unstable with linux emulation.
 Flash 9 under Linux worked fine on Gentoo when I ran the beta
 version--other than flash animations just being a bit slow.
 
 rant
 It's a pain in the ass that Adobe / Macromedia had to invent a
 technology that so many web developers sought, just because of its
 ease of developing; if only the developers sought to learn CSS and a
 bit of proper javascripting, then stuff would be easier for viewing on
 all platforms.
 
 (a few choice four-/five-letter words combined with other words and
 grumbling)
 /rant

Here's the link to 2 of the text files that contain the libraries /
function calls I found in the global symbols table for
libflashplayer.so: http://students.washington.edu/youshi10/posted/flash9/.
- -Garrett
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Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox

2007-01-27 Thread Jamie Jones
 I've tried installing this, too. The included readme addresses linux, and 
 there is no indication of what is supposed to be done with libmap.conf, which 
 leaves me in the dark. Has anyone figured this out?

linux-flashplugin9 is useful for people who use the linux-firefox.

The libmap.conf / linuxpluginwrapper code only currently works with 
linux-flashplugin7,
so you'll need to keep using that one instead if you use the native FreeBSD 
firefox.

When/if flashplayer9 is working with FreeBSD firefo, then the flashplayer7 port 
will
be removed.

Hope this clarifies things,

cheers,
Jamie

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Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox

2007-01-27 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:27:49PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 
 It's a pain in the ass that Adobe / Macromedia had to invent a
 technology that so many web developers sought, just because of its
 ease of developing; if only the developers sought to learn CSS and a
 bit of proper javascripting, then stuff would be easier for viewing on
 all platforms.
 

I've nevr understood the need for something as absurd as 
flash and shockwave;  a graphic/animated app that was developed
for proprietary computers.  But I have wanted to know if the
same thing could be done with Java.  Isn't most of  the sweat 
in creating the animation?  The big question is, how much
effort would it take to creat a javascript out of 
whatever-flash-requires?

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Re: how to enable linux flash player [9] in firefox

2007-01-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Gary Kline wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:27:49PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 It's a pain in the ass that Adobe / Macromedia had to invent a
 technology that so many web developers sought, just because of its
 ease of developing; if only the developers sought to learn CSS and a
 bit of proper javascripting, then stuff would be easier for viewing on
 all platforms.

 
   I've nevr understood the need for something as absurd as 
   flash and shockwave;  a graphic/animated app that was developed
   for proprietary computers.  But I have wanted to know if the
   same thing could be done with Java.  Isn't most of  the sweat 
   in creating the animation?  The big question is, how much
   effort would it take to creat a javascript out of 
   whatever-flash-requires?

Java? Not that bad, but the VM isn't as lightweight as the flash runtime
engine (believe it or not). Not only that, it takes better developers
than the ones that do flash (no, you can't point, click and drop little
animations where you like or out of the box effects).

About the only thing that flash can do that javascript and the rest
can't do (easily) is video and audio, but then again that can be hacked
using the right tools and setup in Java (maybe with a bit of native, or
C/C++ code) to do what you need to do at lower levels.

As for Javascript, it can do the majority of the junk that flash is used
for nowadays, with a little proper HTML coding. Flash is just a fad that
developers use to deploy quick projects (similar to VB was back in the
day for Windows users).

That's a good thought though.. I like that idea..

- -Garrett
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