Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:12:44 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:44:46AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: P.S. If anyone tells anyone else that I know this stuff about Windows I will deny it loudly and come looking for you. I do not need any more conversations that start with, Oh, you're a computer engineer - I have this problem with my/childrens'/wife's/dog's Windows machine... :) Oh, well that's your problem right there. Here, try FreeBSD, or maybe this MacOS X thing, instead. That should solve the problem. Isn't that the right answer to all such questions? Although ideal to use FreeBSD/OS X, many circumstances force people to use Windows (for now..). Another possible solution (since Tim brought up Windows - BSD): automount with mount_smbfs should do the trick. Just having the Unix server run Samba would do the trick though. Yeah, I like this trick. And it worked for a while. Beautifully, I should add, except when Windows did its stupid media preview thing that took forever while navigating through directories. Then that idiot IT team at my university cut it off, I assume through packet filtering rules. (I wish they'd focus on getting things working that they're supposed to be supplying instead.) -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgpIqmzMJaxGS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:44:58 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Peter Boosten wrote: Gary Kline wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? Gary, Search for winscp, a (free) graphical dragdrop scp tool. I've seen some limitations with scp of putty (like file sizes over 2 Gigs). Peter Gary, If you're just trying to do file transferring/sharing in a local 'secure' network, I suggest Samba in place of scp. You might also want to consider Samba + VPN as well; scp is great for porting files over long distances, or a last resort for dealing with Unix = Windows transferring, but just seems incredibly kludgey when dealing with files/directories otherwise (having to maintain an ssh connection, having to install a scp/ssh client per machine for instance are what I consider kludgey). Cheers, -Garrett My trick for this is that I got some Windows system somewhere to install PuTTY (and some other nice to have software) on my memory stick. I just plug it in when I have to deal with a Windows system. -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgphBXfLoivtO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:44:46AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:46:41 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? OK - there are two scenarios: 1) Running the command from a Windows command shell to/from BSD (really pscp, right? - that's what comes with putty): pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:sourcefile localfile - Copies file from BSD to Windows pscp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:destfile - Copies local file to BSD This should work out of the box assuming there are no authentication or firewall problems in the way. If you're running WinXP/Vista you may have to open the Windows firewall to permit this. You can see what's going on by having pscp be verbose by sticking a -v flag into the command: [[ Dunno why, but I'm saving your entire file:) ---Maybe they've got DOS/Win in HELL for us Unix types.]] Since I've ready got putty on the PC, can I type:: pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/kf141.exe C:\kf141.exe ?? (Do I have to put the 10.250 IP in brackets, IOW?) tia, -- ~/.sig, etc, etc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:44:46AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: P.S. If anyone tells anyone else that I know this stuff about Windows I will deny it loudly and come looking for you. I do not need any more conversations that start with, Oh, you're a computer engineer - I have this problem with my/childrens'/wife's/dog's Windows machine... :) Oh, well that's your problem right there. Here, try FreeBSD, or maybe this MacOS X thing, instead. That should solve the problem. Isn't that the right answer to all such questions? Although ideal to use FreeBSD/OS X, many circumstances force people to use Windows (for now..). Another possible solution (since Tim brought up Windows - BSD): automount with mount_smbfs should do the trick. Just having the Unix server run Samba would do the trick though. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
Gary Kline wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:44:46AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:46:41 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? OK - there are two scenarios: 1) Running the command from a Windows command shell to/from BSD (really pscp, right? - that's what comes with putty): pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:sourcefile localfile - Copies file from BSD to Windows pscp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:destfile - Copies local file to BSD This should work out of the box assuming there are no authentication or firewall problems in the way. If you're running WinXP/Vista you may have to open the Windows firewall to permit this. You can see what's going on by having pscp be verbose by sticking a -v flag into the command: [[ Dunno why, but I'm saving your entire file:) ---Maybe they've got DOS/Win in HELL for us Unix types.]] Since I've ready got putty on the PC, can I type:: pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/kf141.exe C:\kf141.exe ?? (Do I have to put the 10.250 IP in brackets, IOW?) tia, -- ~/.sig, etc, etc. No, that should be correct. If that doesn't work, there's always Cygwin.. at least that's a semi-natural version of Unix :). -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
Gary Kline wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:44:46AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:46:41 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? OK - there are two scenarios: 1) Running the command from a Windows command shell to/from BSD (really pscp, right? - that's what comes with putty): pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:sourcefile localfile - Copies file from BSD to Windows pscp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:destfile - Copies local file to BSD This should work out of the box assuming there are no authentication or firewall problems in the way. If you're running WinXP/Vista you may have to open the Windows firewall to permit this. You can see what's going on by having pscp be verbose by sticking a -v flag into the command: [[ Dunno why, but I'm saving your entire file:) ---Maybe they've got DOS/Win in HELL for us Unix types.]] Since I've ready got putty on the PC, can I type:: pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/kf141.exe C:\kf141.exe That should work. You may have to specify the destination, as c:/kf141.exe, I dunno. Another way: cd c:\ pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/kf141.exe . (Do I have to put the 10.250 IP in brackets, IOW?) I don't see why you would. Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:57:26 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wHat I was tying to do what scp a kf141.exe here on tao
over to my daughter's peecee to get her W2K key/number.
I didn't buy the W2K and when I junk the computer I want to
use the OS. The error was a permissions type yelp from
the PC
not very specific...
. I logged out as her, then discovered that she already
was administrator.
where do you end if you symply SSH to the machine? what path? If you SSH into
it, can you create a file there?
can you CD to another path, such as c:\windows\temp\
what is the actual cmd when you scp to the machine? the actual paths,etc.
why dont you scp from the w2k ? eg,
c:\windows\temp\ scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/magic.exe .
why dont you upload the file to a webserver and download from there?
why not email it to yourself ...etc...etc
gary
PS/: if anybody knows where I can find this key-finder
binary, it'd save lots of steps!
left that world behind some time ago...trying quite hard to stay away from it...
good luck
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Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 07:33:25PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:57:26 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why dont you upload the file to a webserver and download from there?
why not email it to yourself ...etc...etc
gary
PS/: if anybody knows where I can find this key-finder
binary, it'd save lots of steps!
left that world behind some time ago...trying quite hard to stay away from
it...
good luck
Turns out there is a new kf151.zip that I found in the wee hours.
I dl'd it, unzip'd and ran it, then printed two hardcopies of the
key. Now, when I junk the old box and get a newer one, I'll
have a legal copy for my old, junker hardware. Play my learn-French
CDs or whatever. Thanks again, to the list, for all of your
input!!
gary
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Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 10:44:58PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Peter Boosten wrote: Gary Kline wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? Gary, Search for winscp, a (free) graphical dragdrop scp tool. I've seen some limitations with scp of putty (like file sizes over 2 Gigs). Peter Gary, If you're just trying to do file transferring/sharing in a local 'secure' network, I suggest Samba in place of scp. You might also want to consider Samba + VPN as well; scp is great for porting files over long distances, or a last resort for dealing with Unix = Windows transferring, but just seems incredibly kludgey when dealing with files/directories otherwise (having to maintain an ssh connection, having to install a scp/ssh client per machine for instance are what I consider kludgey). Samba and the like are entirely foreign to me since I avoid anything Windows. B-u-t, we have a new HP printer/copier/scanner/whatever else on the W2K box, and I'd like to scan in photo and other stuff and scp them across the CAT5. Soo. gary PS: a personal note---how's the summer-of-coding going? I'm hoping that new young blood can make major improvments in keeping FBSD easier to keep current. I'm almost abandoning Ubuntu for your Dell because things there under Gnome Just Work. :-) Please 'cuse the drift, folks Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sunday 08 July 2007 19:46:41 Gary Kline wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? during the rare occasions that i have to scp files from a unix source, i always do it *from* the windows box, with pscp.exe. cheers, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:46:41 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh
utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side
and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to
get permission on the windows computer?
Gary,
what exactly are you trying to do ? what error do you get?
is your windows user local? does it have admin rights ?
B
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Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
Gary Kline wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? Gary, Search for winscp, a (free) graphical dragdrop scp tool. I've seen some limitations with scp of putty (like file sizes over 2 Gigs). Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:46:41 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? OK - there are two scenarios: 1) Running the command from a Windows command shell to/from BSD (really pscp, right? - that's what comes with putty): pscp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:sourcefile localfile - Copies file from BSD to Windows pscp localfile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:destfile - Copies local file to BSD This should work out of the box assuming there are no authentication or firewall problems in the way. If you're running WinXP/Vista you may have to open the Windows firewall to permit this. You can see what's going on by having pscp be verbose by sticking a -v flag into the command: pscp -v . 2) Running the command from BSD to/from Windows This is harder. You have to be running a ssh daemon (sshd) on your Windows machine. This is very doable, but you'll need something like cygwin to get sshd for Windows and then you'll have to configure it appropriately. The good thing about this (although it is kind of a pain) is that it gets around an interesting limitation in WinDoze. Microsoft does allow you to telnet into your Windows client machine but it only allows ONE such login at a time (because, if you wanted more than one login, surely you need WinDoze Server ... which is WAY more money). If you install sshd on your machine, you now have more-or-less unlimited logins via ssh from other machines. Similarly, on Windows Server, you probably need a CAL for each telnet connection. I do not quite understand Microsoft's licensing terms (does anyone?), but it _may_ be the case that running sshd on a Windows Server and using ssh to get to it _may_ get you around paying for extra CALs. YLFMV (Your Legal Fees May Vary). You didn't provide any particulars (in the future, an exact description of what is- and is not working is VERY useful for those of us trying to help ;), but, if I had to guess, I'd say you're having one of two problems: 1) You're trying to do the file copy from BSD to/from Windows and you don't have an sshd daemon running on Win32. 2) You're trying initiate the copy from Windows (which should work), but the Windows firewall is blocking the connection. HTH, P.S. If anyone tells anyone else that I know this stuff about Windows I will deny it loudly and come looking for you. I do not need any more conversations that start with, Oh, you're a computer engineer - I have this problem with my/childrens'/wife's/dog's Windows machine... :) -- Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
Peter Boosten wrote: Gary Kline wrote: I was able to find, ldown load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to get permission on the windows computer? Gary, Search for winscp, a (free) graphical dragdrop scp tool. I've seen some limitations with scp of putty (like file sizes over 2 Gigs). Peter Gary, If you're just trying to do file transferring/sharing in a local 'secure' network, I suggest Samba in place of scp. You might also want to consider Samba + VPN as well; scp is great for porting files over long distances, or a last resort for dealing with Unix = Windows transferring, but just seems incredibly kludgey when dealing with files/directories otherwise (having to maintain an ssh connection, having to install a scp/ssh client per machine for instance are what I consider kludgey). Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:44:46AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: P.S. If anyone tells anyone else that I know this stuff about Windows I will deny it loudly and come looking for you. I do not need any more conversations that start with, Oh, you're a computer engineer - I have this problem with my/childrens'/wife's/dog's Windows machine... :) Oh, well that's your problem right there. Here, try FreeBSD, or maybe this MacOS X thing, instead. That should solve the problem. Isn't that the right answer to all such questions? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] MacUser, Nov. 1990: There comes a time in the history of any project when it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: severely OT; re PUTTY [ssh]
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:18:11PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:46:41 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was able to find, down load and instal the DOS/Windows ssh
utility, but am having trouble scp'ing stuff between my BSD side
and my W2K server. Anybody know what file I have to modify to
get permission on the windows computer?
Gary,
what exactly are you trying to do ? what error do you get?
is your windows user local? does it have admin rights ?
wHat I was tying to do what scp a kf141.exe here on tao
over to my daughter's peecee to get her W2K key/number.
I didn't buy the W2K and when I junk the computer I want to
use the OS. The error was a permissions type yelp from
the PC. I logged out as her, then discovered that she already
was administrator.
gary
PS/: if anybody knows where I can find this key-finder
binary, it'd save lots of steps!
B
_
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If you want to realize what a ridiculous word 'lifestyle' is, consider the
fact that technically speaking, Attila the Hun had an active, outdoor
lifestyle.
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Warned.
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