Re: Uucp mail coming in

2006-10-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
read the smtp standard to find out what the difference is between the
envelope
address and the header address is.

Ted

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From: Dale Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Uucp mail coming in


 I keep getting messages from spammers adddressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uucp
 has been eliminated from my /etc/mail/aliases, why are these still coming
 thru?  I've even tried aliasing uucp to bit-bucket. they still come thru

 Thanks
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Re: Uucp mail coming in

2006-10-18 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Wednesday October 18, 2006 at 11:27:27 (AM) Dale Johnston wrote:


 I keep getting messages from spammers adddressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Uucp
 has been eliminated from my /etc/mail/aliases, why are these still coming
 thru?  I've even tried aliasing uucp to bit-bucket. they still come thru

Did you run 'newaliases' after making the change?

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Re: uucp + email...

2003-10-09 Thread Tuc
   Has anyone had any experience with getting email that has been stored on
 a remote machine via uucp?  I have a friend who held my email while my
 server is down.  He cannot re-que it up, so I need to find a way to uucp
 down load it via the net.   Any help would be appreciated!  Thanks..
 
Ok, I'll admit it, I'm a dinosaur. I collect my mail via UUCP. But
what queue did he store it in when it went down? He would have had to 
specifically said you were a UUCP host when he started. Otherwise, contact 
me off list if you need UUCP help, I even have it going over Stunnel.

Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc.
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Re: uucp + email...

2003-10-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday,  7 October 2003 at 20:31:07 -0700, Chris P wrote:
On Wednesday,  8 October 2003 at 10:25:52 -0700, Chris P wrote:
On Wednesday,  8 October 2003 at 12:51:23 -0700, Chris P wrote:

Once is enough.  Sending multiple messages is a good way to be ignored
or removed from the mailing list.  See
http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html for more details.

 Has anyone had any experience with getting email that has been
 stored on a remote machine via uucp?

Yes.

 I have a friend who held my email while my server is down.  He
 cannot re-que it up, so I need to find a way to uucp down load it
 via the net.

Wouldn't fetchmail be easier? 

Greg
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Re: uucp + email...

2003-10-09 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003, Tuc wrote:
   Has anyone had any experience with getting email that has been stored on
 a remote machine via uucp?  I have a friend who held my email while my
 server is down.  He cannot re-que it up, so I need to find a way to uucp
 down load it via the net.   Any help would be appreciated!  Thanks..
 
   Ok, I'll admit it, I'm a dinosaur. I collect my mail via UUCP. But
what queue did he store it in when it went down? He would have had to 
specifically said you were a UUCP host when he started. Otherwise, contact 
me off list if you need UUCP help, I even have it going over Stunnel.

I'll admit to being a dinosaur as well, at least to the extent that we
still support uucp dialup customers, and I configure our clients on cable
connections to send/receive their e-mail through our servers using uucp
over tcp.  Sometimes the old protocols are exactly what the doctor ordered.

My main question is whether the mail got dumped out of the queue on the
remote uucp host or on his machine locally?  The uuclean routines on most
uucp hosts nukes expired messages completely, and doesn't move it to
another directory where it can be retrieved.

The Taylor uucp contrib directory has an old uureroute script that I wrote
years ago that can be used to go through uucp queues to remail messages
where delivery methods have changed.

Bill
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Re: uucp + email...

2003-10-09 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003, Chris P wrote:
Hello,

...
 My main question is whether the mail got dumped out of the queue on the
 remote uucp host or on his machine locally?  The uuclean routines on most
 uucp hosts nukes expired messages completely, and doesn't move it to
 another directory where it can be retrieved.

Its on a remote host, and was dumped into a uucp que.  I'm not real
familiar with it.  However I know it cannot be re-qued in email.

Basically my machine was on a wireless link, and the link went down.  When
I found out about it (I'm about 400 miles from my machine right now) I had
a friend update his mmx to collect it for uucp download later on.   Now I
have the machine on a T1 and need to figure out how to get the mail to my
machine, and get it all delivered to the proper addresses.  So from
what I have heard I can use uucp locally to login to the remote machine,
and get the mail (over 50 megs) dumped into my machines sendmail que.

If your machine's now able to get mail normally to an internet mail
address, your friend could probably tweak his configuration to use
uureroute to resend your mail to your new address or you could configure
uucp on your system to query his machine to pick up your mail.  The steps
necessary to configure your machine vary depending the MTA (Mail Transport
Agent) you're using.  Using postfix, it's not very difficult although I
must admit that I've been using smail-3.2 on all our uucp machines, largely
because that's what I've been using for about 13 years, and it don't have
to learn how to configure postfix.

The basics are that you need to configure uucp on your system to call his
(connect via uucp over tcp), and have an rmail program that will feed the
incoming uucp mail into your MTA.  The most important thing is to know
exactly what e-mail address the remote uux process is going to feed to your
system so your MTA knows where to deliver it on your end.  You have to know
this before you make the connection or your machine is liable to just dump
the incoming mail in the bit bucket as undeliverable.


 The Taylor uucp contrib directory has an old uureroute script that I wrote
 years ago that can be used to go through uucp queues to remail messages
 where delivery methods have changed.

 Bill

Sorry about the multiple messages, I have a different problem with dns
that is fixed now.

Thanks for your help!  The man pages, and everything I found online does
not seem to help much.
C.


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Re: uucp

2003-03-12 Thread Christian Weisgerber
George Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to do an installworld and I'm receiving the following error:

 mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /
 mtree: line 57: unknown user uucp
 *** Error code 1

 Now, I can either go and add the user UUCP..

Do so.  Why did you remove it in the first place?

 or I could try figure out why make is ignoring this:
 
 foo# grep UUCP /etc/make.conf
 NOUUCP=true# do not build uucp related programs

This says do not build uucp related programs.  It does not say
to ignore every traditional usage of the user uucp for serial
locking etc.

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Re: uucp

2003-03-12 Thread George Barnett
From: Christian Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Now, I can either go and add the user UUCP..

 Do so.  Why did you remove it in the first place?

I have no use for anything to do with uucp.  Why should the user remain on
the system if they're not going to be doing anything?

  or I could try figure out why make is ignoring this:
 
  foo# grep UUCP /etc/make.conf
  NOUUCP=true# do not build uucp related programs

 This says do not build uucp related programs.  It does not say
 to ignore every traditional usage of the user uucp for serial
 locking etc.

Surely if nothing related to uucp is being built then the uucp user should
not be needed?

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Re: uucp

2003-03-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:37:57PM -, George Barnett wrote:
 From: Christian Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Now, I can either go and add the user UUCP..
 
  Do so.  Why did you remove it in the first place?
 
 I have no use for anything to do with uucp.  Why should the user remain on
 the system if they're not going to be doing anything?

Because the uucp user is still used to own devices and files related
to serial port locking:

  This says do not build uucp related programs.  It does not say
  to ignore every traditional usage of the user uucp for serial
  locking etc.

Kris


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Re: UUCP Mail

2002-11-06 Thread pbdlists
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 06:10:23PM +0200, Doron Shmaryahu wrote:
 
 I have a machine with a permanent connection, that I am installing for a
 client. Their provider lets them collect mail via UUCP. Can anyone explain
 in simple terms how to use uucp. I have the node name, username and
 password. I just don't know how to use it. The only examples I can find are
 regarding uucp and dial up.

Reading your last sentence, I guess you will be doing UUCP over TCP/IP.
Basically, the setup is the same as for dialup, just instead of
connecting through a modem, you connect via TCP/IP. I'll try to give
some samples based on the files I use myself (don't shoot me if there
are mistakes in my samples, I'm trying to put it together from much more
complicated files without reading the whole UUCP book again):

- make sure all the files in /etc/uucp/ are owned by the user uucp and
  group uucp!!!

- for uucp over TCP/IP you don't need the dial file

- if you only call out but will not be called by others, you don't need
  the passwd file

- /etc/uucp/call:
  --
  # system-name  login-namepassword
  provider   Uyou  yourpwd
  --
  - provider is the uucp nodename (peername) of your provider
  - Uyou is the uucp-login name you are assigned
  - yourpwd is the password for Uyou

- /etc/uucp/config:
  --
  uuname you
  --
  - you is the uucp nodename (peername) you were assigned

- /etc/uucp/port:
  --
  portTCP
  typetcp
  --
  - instead of specifying modems and serial ports here, you need to set
 these to TCP

- /etc/uucp/sys:
  --
  time   ANY 1
  port   TCP
  chat   ogin: \L ssword: \P
  call-login *
  call-password  *
  protocol-parameter g window 7
  protocol-parameter g packet-size 1024

  system provider
  addressyour.providers.uucp.host
  --
  - this assumes that you use the g protocol with a window size of 7
 and a packet size of 1k
  - \L and \P will be taken from your /usr/uucp/call file
  - the value for the system keyword (provider) must correspond to
 the first entry on a line in your /etc/uucp/call file
  - the address is the fully qualified hostname or IP address of
 your providers uucp host

  
The sample files in /etc/uucp/ are a good starting poing. You might also
want to have a good look at the uucp info pages (use the command 'info
uucp'). And if you really want to learn the details, I can recommend
O'Reilly's book 'Using  Managing uucp' (ISBN: 1-56592-153-4), but it
might be hard to find a copy, since it has been out of print for quite
some time.

Cheers,

Kurt

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Re: uucp user and NOUUCP=true in make.conf

2002-10-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:45:24AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 either.  Should I have my custom BSD.root.dist file, or is there a way
 to modify the build process to check the /etc/make.conf file and eliminate
 certain users from the /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist file?

There's no way to currently do that.

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Re: uucp user and NOUUCP=true in make.conf

2002-10-21 Thread Lowell Gilbert
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 I deleted the uucp user from the /etc/passwd file and now make world
 complains even though I have NOUUCP=true set in the /etc/make.conf file.
 
 The line that fails is:
 mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /
 
 This makes me wounder about the BSD.root.dist file... I don't use ppp
 either.  Should I have my custom BSD.root.dist file, or is there a way
 to modify the build process to check the /etc/make.conf file and eliminate
 certain users from the /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist file?

The mtree files should be getting updated via mergemaster, so you
shouldn't have any trouble with making a local modification and
keeping it through system updates.

It's probably more safer to keep the users there, though.  Their
default login information doesn't give them any system access
capabilities, so their presence isn't a risk.

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