Running STABLE ports on RELEASE

2004-11-01 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

I have been having terrible problems lately with portupgrade dumping core
and gnome2 not wanting to build or run on my box.  I'm thinking of wiping
the drive and doing a clean installation of 4.10, installing packages for
what I want, and then cvsupping the ports tree to get the latest versions of
thunderbird and firefox.

Would there be any problem doing that?  I'm thinking I could just use
portupgrade on a fresh installation to avoid the coredumps and by limiting
the STABLE ports installation to just the 2 I listed I can keep everything
from breaking like it is now.

jm
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Re: Running STABLE ports on RELEASE

2004-11-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 02:16:35PM +, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
 
 I have been having terrible problems lately with portupgrade dumping core
 and gnome2 not wanting to build or run on my box.  I'm thinking of wiping
 the drive and doing a clean installation of 4.10, installing packages for
 what I want, and then cvsupping the ports tree to get the latest versions of
 thunderbird and firefox.

If it's the problem with the btree files in BerkeleyDB 1.65 that's
causing Ruby to core dump on you while running portsdb then running
4.10-RELEASE won't help you.  That problem was a bug in the base
system, which has been fixed in RELENG_4, RELENG_5 (before RELENG_5_3
was branched) and HEAD.  The fix is here:


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/db/btree/bt_split.c.diff?r1=1.6r2=1.7
 
 Would there be any problem doing that?  I'm thinking I could just use
 portupgrade on a fresh installation to avoid the coredumps and by limiting
 the STABLE ports installation to just the 2 I listed I can keep everything
 from breaking like it is now.

In general, no there's no problem with updating your ports using the
latest version of the tree so long as you're running a supported OS
version[1].  In fact, that is the way you're meant to use the ports:
always grab the most up to date version of the tree that you can.
Mixing recent ports and older packages (or any other combination of
old/new ports/packages) is not recommended -- although in the main it
will work just fine, as time goes by eventually things will start to
break in unexplained ways.

If you're having trouble with various ports, why not post the details
of what you're seeing? (if not here, then to freebsd-ports@ or
freebsd-gnome@).  After searching the archives, of course.  Chances
are you're not the only person to be bitten that way.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] Well, ports only get tested on the latest releases from RELENG_4
and RELENG_5, so problems for, say, 4.8-RELEASE might pop up
occasionally, but they should be fixed in relatively short order.

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Re: Running STABLE ports on RELEASE

2004-11-01 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 03:22:58PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
: If it's the problem with the btree files in BerkeleyDB 1.65 that's
: causing Ruby to core dump on you while running portsdb then running
: 4.10-RELEASE won't help you.  That problem was a bug in the base

Ah, good to know.  I thought it was just something I had done wrong.

: If you're having trouble with various ports, why not post the details
: of what you're seeing? (if not here, then to freebsd-ports@ or
: freebsd-gnome@).  After searching the archives, of course.  Chances
: are you're not the only person to be bitten that way.

I had a very bizarre problem where the build would break and spit out these
odd characters while working in an icons directory.  No one was ever able to
figure it out.  I pretty much gave up trying to run gnome on my desktop,
while it ran perfectly on my laptop.



jm
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