Software taking a long time to load on FreeBSD6

2006-05-19 Thread Levi Campbell

Why is it that some applications like x11, ratpoison, and firefox come up
instantly while applications like xmms, emacs and thunderbird take about
five minutes to load? I've tried several things to try and fix this.


  - I've deinstalled packages to see if ports was any better and vice
  versa.
  - I've cleaned out /tmp, /var/tmp, and /var/lock and checked free
  space.
  - getting the vanilla sources from the origional FTP site and
  compiling them

I've tried everything I can think of and I'm wondering, why is this
happening and what can I do to fix it? Thanks for your time and
consideration.
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Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-05-07 Thread J. Erik Heinz
Hi,

martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> words
on 07.05.2006 - 19:06 (+0200 Zulu-Time):

> Graham Bentley wrote:
> >Thanks for all the suggestions on this. Perhaps I should have worded
> >my question better (well, maybe not on a FreeBSD list ;)
> >
> >I am looking to control Windogs (yuk!) Desktops remotely (and as
> >secure as possible - lol !)
/usr/ports/net/rdesktop


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Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-05-07 Thread martinko

Graham Bentley wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions on this. Perhaps I should have worded
my question better (well, maybe not on a FreeBSD list ;)

I am looking to control Windogs (yuk!) Desktops remotely (and as
secure as possible - lol !)

Thanks




i also used tightvnc and run it through an ssh tunnel from fbsd to 
win2k. if you play with parameters it's quite responsive imho.
other than that, i would go for nx, but you need a unix/linux proxy 
sever as you can't connect directly to windows. check their website for 
explanation and more info or use google to find more articles..


martin

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Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-06 Thread Ceri Davies
Bethan,

On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 03:44:35PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> ExportControls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Additionally, because FreeBSD contains what is considered "strong 
> > cryptography", French authorities (the "DCSSI") requires that an 
> > authorisation is obtained for the item if it is to be imported to, 
> > supplied in, used in, or exported from France. 

FreeBSD is partly developed in France, if that makes any difference.

> > It is Reuters policy to be complaint with all relevant regulations in the 
> > countries they operate, and as Reuters will potentially be doing all of 
> > the activities mentioned above it is essential that they obtain the 
> > relevant authorisation from the DCSSI prior to importing to, supplying in, 
> > using in, or exporting FreeBSD from France. Consequently, Reuters cannot 
> > export FreeBSD from its server in the US to its French offices until said 
> > authorisation has been obtained.
> > 
> > Therefore, we would appreciate if you could investigate whether such an 
> > authorisation has been obtained for FreeBSD v4.1, alternatively refer us 
> > to a legal contact that may be able to answer our query.

Without wishing to offend him, Bill is just a user of FreeBSD, the same
as Reuters.  He is unlikely to wish to do that job for you.

Try the FreeBSD Foundation, contacted via
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/contact.shtml.  They are the closest
thing we have to legal representation.

The answer to your question, however, is extremely likely to be "no".
There is no money for that.

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Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-05 Thread Bill Moran
ExportControls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Thank you for your prompt reply.
> 
> Our client Reuters Ltd. operates a system whereby they collate a number of 
> products, approved for use by certain Reuters offices, onto a disk 
> (FreeBSD is part of these programmes). The assembly of the disk is done in 
> the UK, and upon completion the disk is sent to the US where it is loaded 
> onto a central server which the approved Reuters offices can access and 
> download the programme(s). 
> 
> Consequently, this means that Reuters purchase the product in the UK, 
> export it to the US, and potentially import it again to France if a French 
> office is approved to install the product.
> 
> Additionally, because FreeBSD contains what is considered "strong 
> cryptography", French authorities (the "DCSSI") requires that an 
> authorisation is obtained for the item if it is to be imported to, 
> supplied in, used in, or exported from France. 
> 
> It is Reuters policy to be complaint with all relevant regulations in the 
> countries they operate, and as Reuters will potentially be doing all of 
> the activities mentioned above it is essential that they obtain the 
> relevant authorisation from the DCSSI prior to importing to, supplying in, 
> using in, or exporting FreeBSD from France. Consequently, Reuters cannot 
> export FreeBSD from its server in the US to its French offices until said 
> authorisation has been obtained.
> 
> Therefore, we would appreciate if you could investigate whether such an 
> authorisation has been obtained for FreeBSD v4.1, alternatively refer us 
> to a legal contact that may be able to answer our query.
> 
> Hopefully this motivates our query, but please do not hesitate to contact 
> me if you require additional information.
> 
> I look forward to your reply, in the meantime, thank you very much for 
> your assistance.

First off, please don't top-post.

Secondly, you initially contacted the mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which consists of volunteers who assist people with the use of FreeBSD
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Thirdly, it sounds as if you want some sort of legal certification.  You're
not liable to find anyone who's willing to volunteer that sort of information.
I suggest you contact the FreeBSD Foundation
(http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/) which has some formal presence, and may
be able to help.  Otherwise, you may want to look here
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ for a vendor who is willing to provide
consulting services.

> Bethan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Good Afternoon,
> > 
> > We are working with our client Reuters to help them comply with EU and 
> US 
> > export control regulation. In this regard, Reuters have some Free BSD 
> v4.1 
> > software, which they are sending to France. A declaration or 
> authorisation 
> > may be needed for this software for import into, use in, supply in, or 
> > export from France. Can you please advice us if FreeBSD have obtained a 
> > French encryption authorisation for the above mentioned software from 
> the 
> > DCSSI?
> > 
> > If this is the case we would be grateful if you could provide us with a 
> > copy of this authorisation, as Reuters will need this to export this 
> > product to/from France, and the DCSSI does not supply this information 
> to 
> > third parties.
> 
> I am not a lawyer.  This is not legal advise.
> 
> However:
> http://www.fr.freebsd.org/
> 
> The site is actually _hosted_in_ France.  Thus you are wasting your time.
> There is no need to export the software at all, it's already in France.
> 
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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-05 Thread David Robillard

Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:


I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.


Hi Robert,

I use gmirror(8) to setup RAID 1 volumes. I've used it successfully
with IDE, SCSI and SATA drives. It is very simple to setup and
administration is easy. If you only need RAID 1, then you should try
it out. Should you need RAID 5 and/or a fully fledged volume manager,
then vinum is the way.

I also wrote a document on gmirror(8) setup. If you're interested, I
can share it with you.

David

FYI: man page URLs

gmirror(8)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=gmirror&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html

vinum(4)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=vinum&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:16 +0800, Cheng-Lung Sung wrote:
> 1. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/

Great doc, thanks! I was able to get the first part of the 2nd approach
booting from the gm0 mirror, but after booting and trying to add my da0
to the mirror, it does not recognize the device...I tried re-splicing
the drive in sysinstall with no help...

files# gmirror configure -a gm0s1
No such device: gm0s1.
files# df -h
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/mirror/gm0s1a 8.3G1.2G6.4G16%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/mirror/datas1a 33G4.0K 30G 0%/data
files# ls -lah /dev/mirror/
total 1
dr-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Dec 31  1969 .
dr-xr-xr-x  5 root  wheel  512 Dec 31  1969 ..
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 116 May  4 23:43 data
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 118 May  4 23:43 datas1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 121 May  4 19:43 datas1a
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 122 May  4 23:43 datas1c
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 109 May  4 23:43 gm0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 117 May  4 23:43 gm0s1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 119 May  4 19:43 gm0s1a
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 120 May  4 23:43 gm0s1c

Again, not sure where mine is getting the s1c devices...while the data
mirror was setup with another doc, the gm0 setup flawlessly following
your 2nd approach.

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Cheng-Lung Sung
Hi,

newfs first?

In my experiment, there is only one mirror/gm0s1 exists (no s1a, s1c...)

On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:40:17PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:20 +0800, Cheng-Lung Sung wrote:
> > > Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk
> > > issue may be with the message 'fdisk: Geom not found', but all looks to
> > > have setup properly. Now, just to have a clear understanding, what is
> > > the purpose of /dev/mirror/datas1c as it is not used in creating the
> > > mirror it seems?
> > 
> > Have you tried to mount it?
> > 
> 
> files# mount /dev/mirror/datas1c
> mount: /dev/mirror/datas1c: unknown special file or file system

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:20 +0800, Cheng-Lung Sung wrote:
> > Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk
> > issue may be with the message 'fdisk: Geom not found', but all looks to
> > have setup properly. Now, just to have a clear understanding, what is
> > the purpose of /dev/mirror/datas1c as it is not used in creating the
> > mirror it seems?
> 
> Have you tried to mount it?
> 

files# mount /dev/mirror/datas1c
mount: /dev/mirror/datas1c: unknown special file or file system

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Cheng-Lung Sung

IMHO, fdisk is unnecessary. I got my two brand 
new HDs ad[46] mirrored w/o fdisk.

On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:15:39PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 19:59 -0400, Ian Jefferson wrote:
> > I think if you want mirroring only you should consult the geom pages.
> 
> Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk
> issue may be with the message 'fdisk: Geom not found', but all looks to
> have setup properly. Now, just to have a clear understanding, what is
> the purpose of /dev/mirror/datas1c as it is not used in creating the
> mirror it seems?

Have you tried to mount it?

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Cheng-Lung Sung
You can try gmirror(8)
Ref: 
1. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/
2. http://www.onlamp.com/lpt/a/6309
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 07:24:15PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
> controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
> and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
> controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
> onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
> and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
> software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
> the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
> me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
> don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
> device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
> the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 19:59 -0400, Ian Jefferson wrote:
> I think if you want mirroring only you should consult the geom pages.

Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk
issue may be with the message 'fdisk: Geom not found', but all looks to
have setup properly. Now, just to have a clear understanding, what is
the purpose of /dev/mirror/datas1c as it is not used in creating the
mirror it seems?

files# geom mirror label -v -s 35000 data /dev/da2 /dev/da3
Metadata value stored on /dev/da2.
Metadata value stored on /dev/da3.
Done.
files# gmirror load
files# fdisk -vBI /dev/mirror/data
*** Working on device /dev/mirror/data ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=4462 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=4462 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Information from DOS bootblock is:
1: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 71681967 (35000 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 365/ head 254/ sector 63
2: 
3: 
4: 
fdisk: Geom not found
files# ls -l /dev/mirror/
total 0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 127 May  4 20:48 data
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 110 May  4 20:43 datas1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 117 May  4 20:43 datas1a
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 118 May  4 20:43 datas1c
files# bsdlabel -wB /dev/mirror/datas1
files# newfs -U /dev/mirror/datas1a
/dev/mirror/datas1a: 35001.0MB (71681948 sectors) block size 16384, fragment 
size 2048
using 191 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
with soft updates
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 3010976, 
3387328, 3763680, 4140032,
 4516384, 4892736, 5269088, 5645440, 6021792, 6398144, 6774496, 7150848, 
7527200, 7903552, 8279904,
 8656256, 9032608, 9408960, 9785312, 10161664, 10538016, 10914368, 11290720, 
11667072, 12043424,
 12419776, 12796128, 13172480, 13548832, 13925184, 14301536, 14677888, 
15054240, 15430592, 15806944,
 16183296, 16559648, 16936000, 17312352, 17688704, 18065056, 18441408, 
18817760, 19194112, 19570464,
 19946816, 20323168, 20699520, 21075872, 21452224, 21828576, 22204928, 
22581280, 22957632, 2984,
 23710336, 24086688, 24463040, 24839392, 25215744, 25592096, 25968448, 
26344800, 26721152, 27097504,
 27473856, 27850208, 28226560, 28602912, 28979264, 29355616, 29731968, 
30108320, 30484672, 30861024,
 31237376, 31613728, 31990080, 32366432, 32742784, 33119136, 33495488, 
33871840, 34248192, 34624544,
 35000896, 35377248, 35753600, 36129952, 36506304, 36882656, 37259008, 
37635360, 38011712, 38388064,
 38764416, 39140768, 39517120, 39893472, 40269824, 40646176, 41022528, 
41398880, 41775232, 42151584,
 42527936, 42904288, 43280640, 43656992, 44033344, 44409696, 44786048, 
45162400, 45538752, 45915104,
 46291456, 46667808, 47044160, 47420512, 47796864, 48173216, 48549568, 
48925920, 49302272, 49678624,
 50054976, 50431328, 50807680, 51184032, 51560384, 51936736, 52313088, 
52689440, 53065792, 53442144,
 53818496, 54194848, 54571200, 54947552, 55323904, 55700256, 56076608, 
56452960, 56829312, 57205664,
 57582016, 57958368, 58334720, 58711072, 59087424, 59463776, 59840128, 
60216480, 60592832, 60969184,
 61345536, 61721888, 62098240, 62474592, 62850944, 63227296, 63603648, 
6398, 64356352, 64732704,
 65109056, 65485408, 65861760, 66238112, 66614464, 66990816, 67367168, 
67743520, 68119872, 68496224,
 68872576, 69248928, 69625280, 70001632, 70377984, 70754336, 71130688, 71507040
files# mount /dev/mirror/datas1a /data
files# df -h
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a3.8G 55M3.4G 2%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/da1s1d8.3G1.0G6.6G13%/usr
/dev/da0s1d4.0G4.2M3.7G 0%/var
/dev/mirror/datas1a 33G4.0K 30G 0%/data

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:

I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.

Thanks in advance.



Unlike what some seem to be claiming, I *have* been able
to use gvinum on 6.X --- the documentation for vinum was
helpful, you just put a "g" in front of the commands; quid
pro quo, a few things in "vinum" aren't carried over into
"gvinum", but it's basically the same stuff (thanks Lukas,
thanks Grog, etc.).

I did have some system instability during my trial, though;
I've put it down to a bad IDE HDD (because it gave issues
when not part of a gvinum plex as well), but I didn't give
it a serious amount of testing.

As for the handbook, you seem to be correct.  You might file
a "doc" PR --- they'd probably appreciate having the opportunity
to fix this.  However, I do find gvinum(8) on my box

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Ian Jefferson
I have been uable to get vinum to work under 6.0.  I'm no expert though.

Vinum became gvinum in 6.0 and is implemented using geom.

Recently the gvinum man page has been updated and it available in 6.1
RC-1.

I think if you want mirroring only you should consult the geom pages.  It
seems as though geom is the way of the future but does not currently
support R5 which is what I was looking for.

Somewhere out there is a pretty comprehensive set of iozone benchmarks
comparing linux and BSD software Raid.  Ah found it:
http://www25.big.jp/~jam/filesystem/old/

This might give you some ideas.

On Thu, 4 May 2006, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:

> I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
> controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
> and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
> controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
> onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
> and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
> software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
> the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
> me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
> don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
> device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
> the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Robert
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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 00:37 +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
> >I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
> >controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
> >and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
> >controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
> >onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
> >and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
> >software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
> >the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
> >me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
> >don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
> >device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
> >the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.
> >  
> >
> Just to give you another option.  You can support RAID1 using atacontrol 
> to just make two disk into a RAID.

Yes, I saw mention of atacontrol somewhere in the handbook, the drives
all SCSI. It seems atacontrol only addresses IDE? Excuse my ignorance on
the subject of ATA vs SCSI :/

files# atacontrol list
ATA channel 0:
Master: acd0  ATA/ATAPI revision 0
Slave:   no device present
ATA channel 1:
Master:  no device present
Slave:   no device present

-- 
Robert

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Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:


I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.
 

Just to give you another option.  You can support RAID1 using atacontrol 
to just make two disk into a RAID.  Plenty of posts in the archive with 
more info.  As an outsider (i.e. without any RAID) this option always 
seemed the simplest.  No doubt other with experience can tell you the 
relative merits of atacontrol vs gmirror.


--Alex


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Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family
controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB
and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the
controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded FreeBSD 6.0
onto the two IBM drives. Now, I wanted to mirror the other two for data
and looking for guidance as to whether it is first of all suited for
software RAID and if so, CCD or vinum. I am contemplating vinum because
the handbook mentions CCD is when cost is the important factor and for
me, is reliability. What would someone suggest? If vinum, one thing I
don't quite understand is do I create the partitions to be used in the
device? There doesn't seem to be a man for gvinum and the link to it in
the handbook section 19.6.1 is broken.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Robert

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Re: DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Moran
Bethan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good Afternoon,
> 
> We are working with our client Reuters to help them comply with EU and US 
> export control regulation. In this regard, Reuters have some Free BSD v4.1 
> software, which they are sending to France. A declaration or authorisation 
> may be needed for this software for import into, use in, supply in, or 
> export from France. Can you please advice us if FreeBSD have obtained a 
> French encryption authorisation for the above mentioned software from the 
> DCSSI?
> 
> If this is the case we would be grateful if you could provide us with a 
> copy of this authorisation, as Reuters will need this to export this 
> product to/from France, and the DCSSI does not supply this information to 
> third parties.

I am not a lawyer.  This is not legal advise.

However:
http://www.fr.freebsd.org/

The site is actually _hosted_in_ France.  Thus you are wasting your time.
There is no need to export the software at all, it's already in France.

-- 
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Potential Technologies
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DCSSI Authorisation for Free BSD Software

2006-05-04 Thread Bethan Phillips
Good Afternoon,

We are working with our client Reuters to help them comply with EU and US
export control regulation. In this regard, Reuters have some Free BSD v4.1
software, which they are sending to France. A declaration or authorisation
may be needed for this software for import into, use in, supply in, or
export from France. Can you please advice us if FreeBSD have obtained a
French encryption authorisation for the above mentioned software from the
DCSSI?

If this is the case we would be grateful if you could provide us with a
copy of this authorisation, as Reuters will need this to export this
product to/from France, and the DCSSI does not supply this information to
third parties.

Thank you very much for your assistance in this matter.

Best Regards

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Re: Podcast Software?

2006-04-23 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Norberto Meijome wrote:
> Hi all,
> i'm looking for software to manage podcast subscriptions - i.e., that it will
> downoad and organise my podcasts. I imagine any RSS client that can handle
> attachments / download files linked from an article would do too . Any
> suggestions?

bashpodder is simple and portable. :)

juice is coming to Linux and FreeBSD soon...

Mike

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Podcast Software?

2006-04-23 Thread Norberto Meijome
Hi all,
i'm looking for software to manage podcast subscriptions - i.e., that it will
downoad and organise my podcasts. I imagine any RSS client that can handle
attachments / download files linked from an article would do too . Any
suggestions?

FreeBSD 6.1-RC #0: Sun Apr 16 23:24:12 EST 2006

thanks!

Beto
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Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-04-22 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:02 AM, Graham Bentley wrote:


Thanks for all the suggestions on this. Perhaps I should have worded
my question better (well, maybe not on a FreeBSD list ;)

I am looking to control Windogs (yuk!) Desktops remotely (and as
secure as possible - lol !)

Thanks


Try rdesktop in ports. Same thing as remote desktop on Windows  
basically.

Or try installing cygwin based sshd on the Windows boxes then.
-Garrett
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Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-04-22 Thread Graham Bentley
Thanks for all the suggestions on this. Perhaps I should have worded
my question better (well, maybe not on a FreeBSD list ;)

I am looking to control Windogs (yuk!) Desktops remotely (and as
secure as possible - lol !)

Thanks

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Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-04-21 Thread Andy Reitz
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Graham Bentley wrote:

> (OK I know this is OT but theres alot of good experience here
> so please dont flame me :))
>
> What are people using for this ?
>
> I have used VNC and TighVNC in the past to good effect
> although they do seem a bit laggy.
>
> I notice that GoToMyPC is gaining in popularity but I suspect
> you have to trust them with your credentials.
>
> Some people say Remote Admin (about $20) is the best.
>
> Any other recommendations / experiences / reviews ?

Hi Graham,

You might want to check out something called NX, from NoMachine. I
managed to get FreeNX working on my FreeBSD machine for a little while
(until it broke), and when it was working, it was quite fast.

Here is a blog post that I read which helped me to get started:

http://www.averageadmins.com/blog/2006/03/29/freenx-on-freebsd/

Good luck,
-Andy.

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Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-04-21 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Graham Bentley wrote:


(OK I know this is OT but theres alot of good experience here
so please dont flame me :))

What are people using for this ?

I have used VNC and TighVNC in the past to good effect
although they do seem a bit laggy.

I notice that GoToMyPC is gaining in popularity but I suspect
you have to trust them with your credentials.

Some people say Remote Admin (about $20) is the best.

Any other recommendations / experiences / reviews ?

Thanks
 



I use rdesktop (net/rdesktop) to control Winboxen (unfortunately,
some games don't play nice with it).

Kevin Kinsey
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Remote screen control software - recommendations please

2006-04-21 Thread Graham Bentley
(OK I know this is OT but theres alot of good experience here
so please dont flame me :))

What are people using for this ?

I have used VNC and TighVNC in the past to good effect
although they do seem a bit laggy.

I notice that GoToMyPC is gaining in popularity but I suspect
you have to trust them with your credentials.

Some people say Remote Admin (about $20) is the best.

Any other recommendations / experiences / reviews ?

Thanks
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Booting into an installed software raid system

2006-04-18 Thread valentin_nils
Hello FreeBSD users,

I am happilly installing FreeBSD systems (remotely), however there is one thing
which I would like to get solved, hopefully the one or the other can help me
out.

Anyway here the story goes:

I have setup a sample FreeBSD system (Software Raid 1) on the devices /dev/ad2
and /dev/ad4.

I reboot the system and want to leave the FreeBSD system in the CDrom drive for
later use, but boot from the software mirrored FreeBSD installation (on the
HDD).

How do I do this ?

0) I could use the KVM and set the motherboards bios'es boot option, but lets
ignore that for a moment ;-)

1) In the Bootloader menu I am choosing Option "6 - Loading a command prompt"

2) I could probably use the Fixit option in the install CD


So for now, lets explore 1) a bit more

I load the necessary kernel and the modules.

f.e. load geom_mirror

lsdev will show me as devices "cd0", "disk1s1xxx", "disk2s1xxx"

Note that the "real" device name used should be actually f.e. "/dev/ad2s1xxx"
and "/dev/ad4s1xxx"

How can I boot from here into f.e. /dev/gm0s1xxx ?

(ad2 and ad4 are defined as gm0 in the original setup)

Any suggestion welcome.

Best regards

Nils Valentin


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Re: TV Tuner viewing software suggestions

2006-04-16 Thread Danny Pansters
On Sunday 16 April 2006 14:39, Jim Stapleton wrote:
> I'm trying to use my TV Tuner (A Leadtek Brooktree chipset tuner), and
> I have gotten FXTV to work great with one exception: It appears to
> only work in something that looks to be about 320x240, when I go
> fullscreen or anything larger than what it opens as, it only draws to
> part of the screen... providing something, that while rather cool
> looking, is not productive for watching tv or playing console games.
>
> I tried getting kbtv to work, but I'm getting an error installing py-kde.

If you do so please try version 1.0 from http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv (no 
port yet sorry, use install/deinstall). the one currently in ports is two 
releases behind.

> the last of the py-kde compile:
> c++ -c -Wno-deprecated-declarations -pipe -fPIC -O2
> -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=athlon-mp -Wall -W -DQT_NO_DEBUG
> -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I../extra/kde350 -I/usr/local/include
> -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -o
> sipkdecorepart0.o sipkdecorepart0.cpp
> sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip: In function `PyObject*
> convertFrom_ZoneMap(void*)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error:
> `KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone&)' is private
> sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip:209: error: within this context
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezones(sipWrapper*,
> PyObject*, sipWrapper**)':
> /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:340: error:
> `KTimezones::KTimezones(const KTimezones&)' is private
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp:9497: error: within this context
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezone(sipWrapper*,
> PyObject*, sipWrapper**)':
> /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error:
> `KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone&)' is private
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp:10450: error: within this context
> sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip: In function `PyObject*
> convertFrom_KMountPoint_List(void*)':
> sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip:151: warning: taking address of temporary
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_Display(void*)':
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34478: warning: unused variable 'sipCpp'
> sip/kdecore/kconfigbase.sip: In function `PyObject*
> convertFrom_ulonglong(void*)':
> sip/kdecore/kconfigbase.sip:307: warning: unused variable 'LongLong'
> sip/kdecore/kwinmodule.sip: In function `PyObject*
> convertFrom_QValueList_2100(void*)':
> sip/kdecore/kwinmodule.sip:111: warning: unused variable 'inst'
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp: At global scope:
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34440: warning: unused parameter 'sipPy'
> sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34440: warning: unused parameter 'sipIsErr'
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde/work/PyKDE-snapshot20060122/kdecore.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde/work/PyKDE-snapshot20060122.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde.

I'm aware of this problem and can now reproduce it (just updated KDE from 
3.5.1 to 3.5.2 and now it shows up). I'm looking into it. There's also a new 
py-kde to be released one of these days, and then I'm planning to update the 
sip/py-qt/py-kde ports altogether.

Dan

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TV Tuner viewing software suggestions

2006-04-16 Thread Jim Stapleton
I'm trying to use my TV Tuner (A Leadtek Brooktree chipset tuner), and
I have gotten FXTV to work great with one exception: It appears to
only work in something that looks to be about 320x240, when I go
fullscreen or anything larger than what it opens as, it only draws to
part of the screen... providing something, that while rather cool
looking, is not productive for watching tv or playing console games.

I tried getting kbtv to work, but I'm getting an error installing py-kde.

I tried getting xawtv to work, but it's got compile errors.


Both of these have occured since my earliest CVSUPs, at around the
28th of last month, py-kde seems to work pre-cvsup, but I don't know
how to fix it now, nor do I know a good cvsup date to grab the clean
pykde.


Thanks,
-Jim




The last of the xawtv compile:
cc -shared -Wl,-soname,read-qt.so -o libng/plugins/read-qt.so
libng/plugins/read-qt.o -L/usr/local/lib -lquicktime -Wl,-E
-L/usr/local/lib -lglib-12 -lm
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=athlon-mp -DMMX=1
-I/usr/ports/multimedia/xawtv/work/xawtv-3.95/common
-I/usr/local/include -L/usr/local/lib -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts -I. -I./vbistuff
-I./x11 -I./jwz -I./common -I./console -I./x11 -I./structs -I./libng
-Llibng -DCONFIGFILE="/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xawtvrc"
-DLIBDIR="/usr/X11R6/lib/xawtv" -DDATADIR="/usr/X11R6/share/xawtv"
-DVERSION="3.95" -fPIC -Wp,-MD,mk/libng_plugins_write-qt.tmp -c -o
libng/plugins/write-qt.o libng/plugins/write-qt.c
In file included from libng/plugins/write-qt.c:7:
/usr/local/include/lqt/quicktime.h:423: warning: function declaration
isn't a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/quicktime.h:432: warning: function declaration
isn't a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/quicktime.h:442: warning: function declaration
isn't a prototype
In file included from /usr/local/include/lqt/lqt.h:6,
 from libng/plugins/write-qt.c:9:
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:192: warning: function
declaration isn't a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:202: warning: function
declaration isn't a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:210: warning: function
declaration isn't a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:226: warning: function
declaration isn't a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt_codecinfo.h:235: warning: function
declaration isn't a prototype
In file included from libng/plugins/write-qt.c:9:
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt.h:136: warning: function declaration isn't
a prototype
/usr/local/include/lqt/lqt.h:248: warning: function declaration isn't
a prototype
libng/plugins/write-qt.c: In function `video_list':
libng/plugins/write-qt.c:351: error: structure has no member named
`num_encoding_colormodels'
libng/plugins/write-qt.c:353: error: structure has no member named
`encoding_colormodels'
libng/plugins/write-qt.c:354: error: structure has no member named
`encoding_colormodels'
libng/plugins/write-qt.c:381: error: structure has no member named
`num_encoding_colormodels'
libng/plugins/write-qt.c:382: error: structure has no member named
`encoding_colormodels'
gmake: *** [libng/plugins/write-qt.o] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/xawtv.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/xawtv.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade66555.0 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! multimedia/xawtv  (new compiler error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed




the last of the py-kde compile:
c++ -c -Wno-deprecated-declarations -pipe -fPIC -O2
-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=athlon-mp -Wall -W -DQT_NO_DEBUG
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I../extra/kde350 -I/usr/local/include
-I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -o
sipkdecorepart0.o sipkdecorepart0.cpp
sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_ZoneMap(void*)':
/usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error:
`KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone&)' is private
sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip:209: error: within this context
sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezones(sipWrapper*,
PyObject*, sipWrapper**)':
/usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:340: error:
`KTimezones::KTimezones(const KTimezones&)' is private
sipkdecorepart0.cpp:9497: error: within this context
sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezone(sipWrapper*,
PyObject*, sipWrapper**)':
/usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error:
`KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone&)' is private
sipkdecorepart0.cpp:10450: error: within this context
sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip: In function `PyObject*
convertFrom_KMountPoint_List(void*)':
sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip:151: warning: taking address of temporary
sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_Display(voi

Hardware or software issue?

2006-04-12 Thread Norberto Meijome
hi there,
I am seeing something weird on my Thinkpad z60M LCD screen. Certain
colours are (in the green-blueish range) are showing up as if there was
some interference , like ghosting in a a badly tuned TV. It happens on
the desktop and on some areas of gkrellm.

I transferred the settings as they were from my other thinkpad (exact
same model), so I'm wondering what could be wrong.

running xfce-4.2.3 , kernel + world from April 6th 2006.

Any ideas?

thanks!
beto
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software search - Btrieve converter

2006-04-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar

does anyone know software able to read Btrieve .DAT files and output
text formatted tables?

thanks
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Re: FAX software ?

2006-04-06 Thread usleepless
Hi Igor,

> > Hi,
> >
> >   Try hylafax.
> mgetty+sendfax is much easier to tune.

exactly what needs tuning? ( if you are not in the mass-faxing-business )

regards,

usleep
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Re: FAX software ?

2006-04-05 Thread Igor Robul
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 04:41:14PM +0200, simon butsana wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   Try hylafax.
mgetty+sendfax is much easier to tune.
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Re: FAX software ?

2006-04-05 Thread usleepless
Dear Frank,

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > some people claim hylafax is overkill, but i have been using it for
> > years, with much satisfaction. it is in the ports.
>
> yes I saw it, but have no experience in fax softwares
> should I contact you if I have some problems ?

no, you should contact the list which comes closest to the problem: if
there is a problem with hylafax, check the hylafax
website/mailinglists.

if you suspect there is a problem with the combination of freebsd and
hylafax, you want to check the freebsd-mailinglists.

just like any other program you might use.

hylafax is a very mature package, has been running on freebsd for a
long time and has a nice configuration script. hardware may prove to
be more of a problem than software.

before configuring, read the README or other docs provided. check the
hylafax website too.

i am not in any way affiliated with hylafax nor hylafax+freebsd. i am
just another user ( 1 modem ).

regards,

usleep

>
> Thanks
> --
> Frank Bonnet
>
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RE: FAX software ?

2006-04-05 Thread simon butsana
Hi,
   
  Try hylafax.
   
  Simon

Frank Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
  Hello

I need advices to choose a FAX software (sending and receiving)
running at 6.0 , the modem I have is a ZyXEL Omni 56K Plus,
it has both serial and USB interfaces.

Thanks for any help.
-- 
Frank Bonnet
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Re: FAX software ?

2006-04-05 Thread usleepless
some people claim hylafax is overkill, but i have been using it for
years, with much satisfaction. it is in the ports.

if i were you i would choose the serial connection ( reliability ? ).

regards,

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FAX software ?

2006-04-05 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I need advices to choose a FAX software (sending and receiving)
running at 6.0 , the modem I have is a ZyXEL Omni 56K Plus,
it has both serial and USB interfaces.

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Re: [OT] Re: software recommendation

2006-04-05 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-04-05 00:57, Daniel Bye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 07:26:07PM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote:
> > Try googling (can this really be a word :) ) browser
> > automation name_of browser.
>
> According to Dictionary.com, yes.  It gives three definitions,
> two of which are listed as verbs.  Therefore, the present
> participle "googling" is an acceptable word in English.  Good
> enough for me!
>
> I wonder - do other languages have similar neologisms?

Greek does.

We even have the occasional flamefest about the proper way to
write or pronounce these neologisms :)

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Re: software recommendation

2006-04-05 Thread Guillaume de Vinzelles
Hi,

Try Anteater (from the Ant framework) or JMETER, or possibly plain old Perl ;)

Guillaume

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 03:21, Malcolm Fitzgerald wrote:
> On 05/04/2006, at 7:17 AM, fbsd_user wrote:
> > I am looking for am application that will simulate a browser and
> > allow me to program responses to filling in forms from the internet
> > application the browser is accessing.
>
> cURL does this
>
>
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Re: software recommendation

2006-04-04 Thread Malcolm Fitzgerald


On 05/04/2006, at 7:17 AM, fbsd_user wrote:


I am looking for am application that will simulate a browser and
allow me to program responses to filling in forms from the internet
application the browser is accessing.


cURL does this


malcolm

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[OT] Re: software recommendation

2006-04-04 Thread Daniel Bye
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 07:26:07PM -0300, Duane Whitty wrote:
> Try googling (can this really be a word :) ) browser automation name_of 
> browser.

According to Dictionary.com, yes.  It gives three definitions, two of
which are listed as verbs.  Therefore, the present participle "googling"
is an acceptable word in English.  Good enough for me!

I wonder - do other languages have similar neologisms?

Dan

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Re: software recommendation

2006-04-04 Thread Duane Whitty

fbsd_user wrote:

I am looking for am application that will simulate a browser and
allow me to program responses to filling in forms from the internet
application the browser is accessing.

I have read about this type of thing before and even seen it
mentioned on this list but at the time I had no interest in it. I
don't even know what this type of function is called so I can not do
a successful web search or ports search. I tried the words scraping,
session capture, and browser session simulation all with no luck.

Does anyone know what this is called or the port name if there is
one?


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Try googling (can this really be a word :) ) browser automation name_of 
browser.
I also tried automated website interaction tools but the results didn't 
seem as

promising.  YMMV

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Re: software recommendation

2006-04-04 Thread Greg Barniskis

fbsd_user wrote:

I am looking for am application that will simulate a browser and
allow me to program responses to filling in forms from the internet
application the browser is accessing.

I have read about this type of thing before and even seen it
mentioned on this list but at the time I had no interest in it. I
don't even know what this type of function is called so I can not do
a successful web search or ports search. I tried the words scraping,
session capture, and browser session simulation all with no luck.

Does anyone know what this is called or the port name if there is
one?


If you like Perl at all, take a look at WWW::Mechanize and its 
companion modules, e.g.:


./devel/p5-Test-WWW-Mechanize
./devel/p5-Test-WWW-Mechanize-Catalyst
./www/p5-WWW-Mechanize
./www/p5-WWW-Mechanize-FormFiller
./www/p5-WWW-Mechanize-Shell

There are probably (many) other Perl modules that would be of 
tremendous usefulness, but WWW-Mechanize is specifically designed 
for what you are asking.


http://search.cpan.org/~PETDANCE/WWW-Mechanize-1.18/lib/WWW/Mechanize.pm

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software recommendation

2006-04-04 Thread fbsd_user
I am looking for am application that will simulate a browser and
allow me to program responses to filling in forms from the internet
application the browser is accessing.

I have read about this type of thing before and even seen it
mentioned on this list but at the time I had no interest in it. I
don't even know what this type of function is called so I can not do
a successful web search or ports search. I tried the words scraping,
session capture, and browser session simulation all with no luck.

Does anyone know what this is called or the port name if there is
one?


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Re: Tippingpoint SMS client software

2006-03-12 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:36:45 +1100
Edwin Groothuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> We recently obtained a Tippingpoint SMS server which is currently
> safe guarding our network against the bad guys.
> 
> Unfortunately, the client software for Linux (which is nothing more
> than a Java program) does and doesn't really work on my FreeBSD
> machine:
> 
> - It tries to install the a Linux JRE.
> - The installation program aborts halfway with errors in the Java
> program.
> 

Hi Edwin, have you tried installing it while being  chrooted
in /usr/compat/linux
also make sure to have /usr/compat/linux/proc mounted.

this has usually helped me with some linux software. Haven't tried with
your software in particular.

HIH,
Beto
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Tippingpoint SMS client software

2006-03-10 Thread Edwin Groothuis
Greetings,

We recently obtained a Tippingpoint SMS server which is currently
safe guarding our network against the bad guys.

Unfortunately, the client software for Linux (which is nothing more
than a Java program) does and doesn't really work on my FreeBSD
machine:

- It tries to install the a Linux JRE.
- The installation program aborts halfway with errors in the Java program.

I unpacked all the .jar files and got the first part of the client
program working: It asks me for an SMS server, username and password.
Filling them in, it connects to the SMS server, I see some certificates
being exchanged but the client then throws a horrible "An error
occured connecting to the SMS server." which absolutely is useless
here.

So my question... has somebody gotten the Tippingpoint SMS client
software running on FreeBSD?

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Software RAID-1 FreeBSD 5.4

2006-03-04 Thread Tamouh H.

Hi,

This is on FreeBSD 5.4 latest stable snapshot on January.

I've followed the instructions at:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html  for creating 
software RAID, which appears to have been successful. the raid created, and 
synched, couple of reboots all is good.

So I wanted to test it out, I've unplugged one of the drives and rebooted, 
however, I've received the error:

ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp
Root mount failed: 6
mountroot>

It doesn't matter which disk I unplug, it gives the same result. I've attempted 
to remount:

ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a
ufs:/dev/ad6s1a
ufs:/dev/ad4s1a

no luck. so I looked over:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

and added the 'options GEOM_MIRROR' to Kernel, then recompiled, installed and 
restarted, the machine would hang completely just when loading the AD drives.

Are the articles missing any steps ? any help is appreciated.

Thx,

Tamouh Hakmi


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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Something else you may want to look into, if you use cyrus_imap, is 
websieve. This allows you to setup server side mail filtering rules 
through a web interface. I didn't manage to get it working last I looked 
at it, though I intend to try again when I have some time. It would make 
a nice addition to a webmail system, and allow your users to setup 
filters that will work irrelevent of the client they use.


Note that Horde has its ingo module, which does filtering, including SIEVE 
... you mentioned 'nice addition to a webmail system', which is why I 
mention it ...



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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-02 Thread martin
> On 3/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base
>> on a [fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an
>> issue.  Just easy to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web
>> mail.  I'm leaning toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test
>> server a couple years ago and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?
>
>
> I haven't yet tried it myself, but I'm looking into roundcube. It's in
> ports, but is still only in beta:
>
>
> RoundCube Webmail is a browser-based multilingual IMAP client with an
> application-like user interface. It provides full functionality you
> expect from an e-mail client, including MIME support, address book,
> folder manipulation and message filters. RoundCube Webmail is written in
> PHP and requires the MySQL database. The user interface is fully
> skinnable using XHTML and CSS 2.
>
> WWW: http://www.roundcube.net/

I use squirrel mail, and have tested out roundcube. Both are fairly easy
to get setup and use, so it is really a matter of personal preference. I
personally prefer squirrel mail, I found roundcube felt a little
incomplete (it was a while ago, so that could have changed by now). IIRC
they have a demo on their website you can log onto if you want to see how
it works.

There is no reason why you couldn't have both setup, and then the user
themselves can decide which one to use.

Something else you may want to look into, if you use cyrus_imap, is
websieve. This allows you to setup server side mail filtering rules
through a web interface. I didn't manage to get it working last I looked
at it, though I intend to try again when I have some time. It would make a
nice addition to a webmail system, and allow your users to setup filters
that will work irrelevent of the client they use.

Cheers,
Martin



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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-02 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
On 3/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base
> on a [fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an
> issue.  Just easy to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web
> mail.  I'm leaning toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test
> server a couple years ago and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?


I haven't yet tried it myself, but I'm looking into roundcube. It's in
ports, but is still only in beta:


RoundCube Webmail is a browser-based multilingual IMAP client with an
application-like user interface. It provides full functionality you
expect from an e-mail client, including MIME support, address book,
folder manipulation and message filters. RoundCube Webmail is written in
PHP and requires the MySQL database. The user interface is fully
skinnable using XHTML and CSS 2.

WWW: http://www.roundcube.net/
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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-01 Thread Derek Ragona

http://www.openwebmail.org/

It is in the ports as well.

-Derek


At 02:20 PM 3/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All...

I'm looking to install a web-email package on our FreeBSD 6.0 
system.  Sendmail, Dovecot IMAP, and Apache 2.0 are already 
installed.  I'll be installing from ports or packages.


Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base on a 
[fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an issue.  Just easy 
to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web mail.  I'm leaning 
toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test server a couple years ago 
and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?


  -Thanks,  Wayne

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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-01 Thread chris
sqwebmail, squirrelmail, horde/imp, various others


> Hi All...
>
> I'm looking to install a web-email package on our FreeBSD 6.0
> system.  Sendmail, Dovecot IMAP, and Apache 2.0 are already
> installed.  I'll be installing from ports or packages.
>
> Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base
> on a [fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an
> issue.  Just easy to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web
> mail.  I'm leaning toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test
> server a couple years ago and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?
>
>-Thanks,  Wayne
>
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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-01 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On 3/1/06, Robin Vley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Wayne,
>
> > Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base on
> > a [fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an issue.  Just
> > easy to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web mail.  I'm leaning
> > toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test server a couple years ago
> > and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?
>
> Squirrelmail works really well, and has as a plus that it has a fairly
> low-bandwidth interface. We're running Horde, Neomail and Squirrelmail
> for our customers and I got used to Horde myself. It's a bit heavier and
> comes with tons of stuff that has nothing to do with the basic webmail
> requirement, but it's working pretty well. Not much updates. I remember
> Squirrelmail had some security updates now and then, but this is more
> than a year ago I'm talking.

[1] was corrected and committed a few hours ago (01 Mar 2006
19:23:17), according to freshports [2]

[1] 
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/portaudit/af9018b6-a4f5-11da-bb41-0011433a9404.html
[2] http://www.freshports.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>
> I would definately go for Squirrelmail if you want simple, stable and
> easy to use Webmail. If you want something more advanced and nicer
> looking, go for Horde.

I agree.

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Re: Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-01 Thread Robin Vley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wayne,

Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base on 
a [fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an issue.  Just 
easy to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web mail.  I'm leaning 
toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test server a couple years ago 
and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?


Squirrelmail works really well, and has as a plus that it has a fairly 
low-bandwidth interface. We're running Horde, Neomail and Squirrelmail 
for our customers and I got used to Horde myself. It's a bit heavier and 
comes with tons of stuff that has nothing to do with the basic webmail 
requirement, but it's working pretty well. Not much updates. I remember 
Squirrelmail had some security updates now and then, but this is more 
than a year ago I'm talking.


I would definately go for Squirrelmail if you want simple, stable and 
easy to use Webmail. If you want something more advanced and nicer 
looking, go for Horde.


---
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Recommended Web Mail software

2006-03-01 Thread wc_fbsd

Hi All...

I'm looking to install a web-email package on our FreeBSD 6.0 
system.  Sendmail, Dovecot IMAP, and Apache 2.0 are already 
installed.  I'll be installing from ports or packages.


Was wondering what you recommend.  We have a small 5 person user base 
on a [fairly] screamin' new Dell box, so performance isn't an 
issue.  Just easy to use, reliable, basic, low maintenance web 
mail.  I'm leaning toward  SquirrelMail, as I set it up on a test 
server a couple years ago and was pleased.  Any other suggestions?


  -Thanks,  Wayne

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Re: Solved, thanks! And a hot software tip (was: How to remove Boot Menu)

2006-02-23 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On 2/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi thanks to everyone who responded, Esp Tim D. on my question
> about removing the FBSD boot manager.  A plain old DOS FDISK /MBR
> zapped it, and left my BSD installation untouched.
>
> Problem is yet again, I needed a dang DOS boot disk.  I've been
> thinking for years it would be cool to have a boot CD-Rom instead,
> that could load up into a ram disk, yada, yada
>
> Well someone already did it, and did a damn thorough job:  The
> Ultimate Boot CD  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/  is a must-have
> piece of free-ware for anyone maintaining "win-tel" PCs, regardless
> of the operating system in use.  See the site for a complete
> list.  But basically the guy has pulled together dozens of
> manufacturer specific diagnostics, firmware flashers, etc onto one CD
> that can run them directly, or get you a shell in dos or linux, and
> be able to mount pretty much any file system out there.  Good
> Stuff!  Check it out.  And [maybe] finally trash those floppies for good.
>
>  -Wayne
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"wintel" stands for windows+intel :-)
how about Freeon - FreeBSD+{Athlon|Sempron|Opteron}?

Thanks for the tip. I've been wondering how one can do
that, but never got to googling. I'm still afraid to mess
with production servers, though zapping the boot manager
would save a few seconds each reboot (hmm, once every
few years :).

UBCD is great, especially when you get hold of mkisofs
and start customizing it. I had to learn it when I needed to
reflash a server without FDD. It only took an hour to find
a guide, experiment and have a new ubcd containing
all the firmwares I need.

Hiren is also very good, but it contains warez mostly, so
beware. There are many other alternatives out there.
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Solved, thanks! And a hot software tip (was: How to remove Boot Menu)

2006-02-23 Thread wc_fbsd
Hi thanks to everyone who responded, Esp Tim D. on my question 
about removing the FBSD boot manager.  A plain old DOS FDISK /MBR 
zapped it, and left my BSD installation untouched.


Problem is yet again, I needed a dang DOS boot disk.  I've been 
thinking for years it would be cool to have a boot CD-Rom instead, 
that could load up into a ram disk, yada, yada


Well someone already did it, and did a damn thorough job:  The 
Ultimate Boot CD  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/  is a must-have 
piece of free-ware for anyone maintaining "win-tel" PCs, regardless 
of the operating system in use.  See the site for a complete 
list.  But basically the guy has pulled together dozens of 
manufacturer specific diagnostics, firmware flashers, etc onto one CD 
that can run them directly, or get you a shell in dos or linux, and 
be able to mount pretty much any file system out there.  Good 
Stuff!  Check it out.  And [maybe] finally trash those floppies for good.


-Wayne

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Barcode software?

2006-02-11 Thread perikillo
  Hi people, did someone knows if we have some barcode designer on
Freebsd?, i googling and just found kbarcode ->kde, but we have
something else...?

   Thanks for your time, greetings.
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Software RAID 5

2006-01-31 Thread Michael
Hello there,

I have a Dell Power Edge 2400 system with 4 X 18 GB SCSI Drives.  I would 
like to use a software Raid 5 using FreeBSD 5.4.  Any suggestions on how to
go about doing it?  I have read so many articles, it makes my head hurt. 
There are many options, for mirroring, but some are better than others, and
some are out of date.  Could someone please tell me what is best for FreeBSD

5.4, and if you have it, a How-to would be nice :-).


Thanks in Advance
Michael.

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Blogging software recommendation (was Re: Blogin software recoendations)

2006-01-25 Thread Brian Sobolak

stan wrote:
> I would like to set up a internal bloging system at work for people to use
> as a sort of "daily journal".
>
> I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in
> the
> ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
> to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each
> person,
> which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique URL.
>
> Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
> choice?

Drupal.

It does a good job with this scenario.  In the ports, and actively
maintained.

brian



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Re: forum software / hosting

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Kane
Steve Camp wrote:
> I need to setup a web forum for a friend, and sure could appreciate
> some pointers.
> 
> Some of my questions/issues include:
> 
> 1)  Which forum software runs on FreeBSD?
> 
> By forum software, I am referring to programs such as 
> 
> o phpBB
>   o vBulletin by Jelsoft

Just wanted to add my input for forum software. Simple Machines Forum
(SMF) is a great, free, and open source forum system that uses
PHP/MySQL. I personally have found it to work the best for me as it
includes lots of features out of the box and an easy theme system.

http://simplemachines.org/

Try out the RC of 1.1 for some even nicer new features like AJAX editing
and enhanced search functions.

-Mark

P.S. I own a license of vBulletin. In my opinion it's not worth it for
the money. Now if only I had known about SMF before buying vBulletin... :D

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Re: forum software / hosting

2006-01-25 Thread Nathan Vidican

Steve Camp wrote:

I need to setup a web forum for a friend, and sure could appreciate
some pointers.

Some of my questions/issues include:

1)  Which forum software runs on FreeBSD?

By forum software, I am referring to programs such as 


o phpBB
o vBulletin by Jelsoft


Personally, I HATE working with PHP... not to start flames or anything, call me 
'old-school' if you will, but I prefer to seperate as much of the 'code' from 
the 'presentation' (html) as possible. I use a mod_perl'd version of mwForum 
under Apache, with a MySQL backend for my hosting customers. It allows me to 
setup multiple forums, can do polls/voting/etc, and gives great felxibility to 
'virtually-hosted' forums/communities. Check out 
http://forum.tallyhoamusements.com/ (one of my customers' sites) - for bandwidth 
usages, check out http://forum.tallyhoamusements.com/stats/ to see what that 
forum actually uses. I've hacked some portions of the forum code for 
security/configuration reasons, but mwForum will work pretty much out-of-the-box 
on FreeBSD with Apache; using optimizations for mod_perl are a little trickier - 
but that's where experience pays off.




2)  Suggestions for hosting services

At a recent Colorado SAGE meeting, a fellow told me that hosting
services exist where I can get a "virtual Linux" box for $20/month
or so.  I specify how much physical memory, disk space etc. that I
need, and I get a "virtual Linux" system, but for all intents and
purposes, it looks and acts like it's own system.

Does FreeBSD have any similar ability to "virtualize"?
Are any hosting services offering FreeBSD servers for as little as
$15-25 / month?  If not, for how little $/month might I find a
FreeBSD server hosted by someone else?  Recommendations of hosting
services welcome.


I looked into a lot of VPS options before I picked my providers; but in the end 
I found it cheaper/easier just to pay for a dedicated server alltogether. I pay 
roughly $100 / Canadian ( ~ $85 USD) per month for a dedicated 2Ghz+ machine w/ 
80GB drive, 512Mb Ram, and 200Gb/month bandwidth. Email me off-list for 
details/providers if you'd like. I have servers currently in Chicago, Toronto, 
and New Jersey - all from different providers.




3)  Is anyone familiar with web forum software?  Can you point me to
any of: 


  o Usenet groups
o Web forums for forum admins
o rules of thumb for estimating bandwidth requirements /
  system sizing for estimated numbers of users?
	  
Many thanks,


As mentioned above, I'd reccomend mwForum -> http://www.mwforum.org/


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Hope it helps.

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Re: forum software / hosting

2006-01-25 Thread Martin Tournoy
> 1)  Which forum software runs on FreeBSD?

The Operating system doesn't matter, for most forums the webserver
(apache, caudium etc.) needs to have certain modules loaded (php, asp,
etc.) and/or a database server(mysql, bdb, etc.).
Check the program's site to see what is needed, php and mysql are the
most popular at the moment...

> 3)  Is anyone familiar with web forum software?  Can you point me to
> any of:

I personly like phpBB, it's been in development for quite some time
and has quite a bit of features and good support.ls/
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Re: forum software / hosting

2006-01-25 Thread Jordan Michaels

Hi Steve,

I've responded to your messages in-line below:

Steve Camp wrote:


I need to setup a web forum for a friend, and sure could appreciate
some pointers.

Some of my questions/issues include:

1)  Which forum software runs on FreeBSD?

   By forum software, I am referring to programs such as 


   o phpBB
o vBulletin by Jelsoft

 

FreeBSD supports several different programming languages - including 
PHP. Any kind of forum software that is programmed in these supported 
languages should be able to run without too much effort on a FreeBSD 
system. If you do you something free/open source like phpBB, be sure to 
keep it up to date and patched. It's a common target for script kiddies 
once an exploit has been found.



2)  Suggestions for hosting services

   At a recent Colorado SAGE meeting, a fellow told me that hosting
   services exist where I can get a "virtual Linux" box for $20/month
   or so.  I specify how much physical memory, disk space etc. that I
   need, and I get a "virtual Linux" system, but for all intents and
   purposes, it looks and acts like it's own system.

   Does FreeBSD have any similar ability to "virtualize"?
   Are any hosting services offering FreeBSD servers for as little as
   $15-25 / month?  If not, for how little $/month might I find a
   FreeBSD server hosted by someone else?  Recommendations of hosting
   services welcome.
 

It sounds like you're talking about VPS's, or Virtual Private Servers. 
These are becoming very common-place n the Internet. This link should 
get you started:

http://www.google.com/search?q=freebsd+vps


3)  Is anyone familiar with web forum software?  Can you point me to
   any of: 


   o Usenet groups
o Web forums for forum admins
o rules of thumb for estimating bandwidth requirements /
  system sizing for estimated numbers of users?
	  
 

Forums take up very little space and bandwidth in general, but as always 
it depends on what you use it for and what you allow your clients to do 
with it. If you're just running a default install, a couple MB should 
get you covered.



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Hope this helps!

Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
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forum software / hosting

2006-01-25 Thread Steve Camp
I need to setup a web forum for a friend, and sure could appreciate
some pointers.

Some of my questions/issues include:

1)  Which forum software runs on FreeBSD?

By forum software, I am referring to programs such as 

o phpBB
o vBulletin by Jelsoft

2)  Suggestions for hosting services

At a recent Colorado SAGE meeting, a fellow told me that hosting
services exist where I can get a "virtual Linux" box for $20/month
or so.  I specify how much physical memory, disk space etc. that I
need, and I get a "virtual Linux" system, but for all intents and
purposes, it looks and acts like it's own system.

Does FreeBSD have any similar ability to "virtualize"?
Are any hosting services offering FreeBSD servers for as little as
$15-25 / month?  If not, for how little $/month might I find a
FreeBSD server hosted by someone else?  Recommendations of hosting
services welcome.

3)  Is anyone familiar with web forum software?  Can you point me to
any of: 

o Usenet groups
o Web forums for forum admins
o rules of thumb for estimating bandwidth requirements /
  system sizing for estimated numbers of users?
  
Many thanks,

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Re: Blogin software recoendations

2006-01-24 Thread stan
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 12:22:00PM -0500, DAve wrote:
> stan wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 11:40:18AM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> >
> >>stan wrote:
> >>
> >>>I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in 
> >>>the
> >>>ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
> >>>to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each 
> >>>person,
> >>>which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique 
> >>>URL.
> >>>
> >>>Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
> >>>choice?
> >>
> >>Read the fine documentation :-):
> >>
> >>http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_Multiple_Blogs
> >>http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPressMU
> >>
> >
> >I did run across both of these, in looking at the documentation.
> >
> >The first choice, while seeming to be the better of the 2 looked to be a
> >bit "heavyweight", as each user would have his own complete install of
> >wrodpress. Seems like an admin nightmare to me.
> >
> >The 2nd is listed as alpha quality software. Doesn't sound like a great
> >idea to me.
> >
> >Am I thinkining incorectly here?
> >
> 
> While not the final word, I found this page worthwhile in deciding.
> 
> http://www.asymptomatic.net/blogbreakdown.htm
> 

Thanks, lots of useful info there. Now to digest it :-)
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Re: Blogin software recoendations

2006-01-24 Thread Chuck Swiger

stan wrote:

On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 11:40:18AM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:

stan wrote:

I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in the
ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each person,
which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique URL.

Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
choice?

Read the fine documentation :-):

http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_Multiple_Blogs
http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPressMU


I did run across both of these, in looking at the documentation.

The first choice, while seeming to be the better of the 2 looked to be a
bit "heavyweight", as each user would have his own complete install of
wrodpress. Seems like an admin nightmare to me.

The 2nd is listed as alpha quality software. Doesn't sound like a great
idea to me.

Am I thinkining incorectly here?


I'm sure you could pay for commercial blog software or blog hosting instead, if 
you preferred to do that.  Or perhaps there are some other open-source blog 
suites which are more suited to your multiuser requirements than Wordpress.


(Multiple user homepages, one blog with multiple users per company, works fine 
for me, although I have tried making a copy or two and it would take about 3 MB 
per extra user if you wanted to do it the "heavyweight" way.)


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Re: Blogin software recoendations

2006-01-24 Thread DAve

stan wrote:

On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 11:40:18AM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:


stan wrote:


I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in the
ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each person,
which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique URL.

Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
choice?


Read the fine documentation :-):

http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_Multiple_Blogs
http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPressMU



I did run across both of these, in looking at the documentation.

The first choice, while seeming to be the better of the 2 looked to be a
bit "heavyweight", as each user would have his own complete install of
wrodpress. Seems like an admin nightmare to me.

The 2nd is listed as alpha quality software. Doesn't sound like a great
idea to me.

Am I thinkining incorectly here?



While not the final word, I found this page worthwhile in deciding.

http://www.asymptomatic.net/blogbreakdown.htm

DAve


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Re: Blogin software recoendations

2006-01-24 Thread stan
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 11:40:18AM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> stan wrote:
> >I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in the
> >ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
> >to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each person,
> >which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique URL.
> >
> >Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
> >choice?
> 
> Read the fine documentation :-):
> 
> http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_Multiple_Blogs
> http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPressMU
> 
I did run across both of these, in looking at the documentation.

The first choice, while seeming to be the better of the 2 looked to be a
bit "heavyweight", as each user would have his own complete install of
wrodpress. Seems like an admin nightmare to me.

The 2nd is listed as alpha quality software. Doesn't sound like a great
idea to me.

Am I thinkining incorectly here?

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Re: Blogin software recoendations

2006-01-24 Thread Chuck Swiger

stan wrote:

I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in the
ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each person,
which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique URL.

Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
choice?


Read the fine documentation :-):

http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_Multiple_Blogs
http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPressMU

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Blogin software recoendations

2006-01-24 Thread stan
I would like to set up a internal bloging system at work for people to use
as a sort of "daily journal".

I want to host this on FreeBSD, preferably by using something that;s in the
ports tree. I've installed and got working wordpress, but it doesn't seem
to have the ability to allow me to define individual blogs for each person,
which is what I need. I'd like for each persons blog to have a unique URL.

Am I missing how to do this in wordpress? Or is there a more appropriate
choice?


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Re: Native voip software for FreeBSD

2006-01-13 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
水曜日 11 1月 2006 01:30、User Gandalf さんは書きました:
>   Hello,
>
> Do you know any native voip software for FreeBSD?
> I hate to install Linux compatibility mode just to have skype working.
> Thanks,
>
>Les

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cphone
kphone
linphone
linphone-base
ohphone

Those as well as kiax seem good options, I think.  I've been meaning to see if 
openwengo can compile and run on freebsd.  Best of luck,

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Re: Native voip software for FreeBSD

2006-01-10 Thread Andrew P.
On 1/10/06, User Gandalf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Hello,
>
> Do you know any native voip software for FreeBSD?
> I hate to install Linux compatibility mode just to have skype working.
> Thanks,
>
>Les
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mbone/speak_freely
net/kphone
security/cutlass
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Native voip software for FreeBSD

2006-01-10 Thread User Gandalf


 Hello,

Do you know any native voip software for FreeBSD?
I hate to install Linux compatibility mode just to have skype working.
Thanks,

  Les
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Re: Disadvantages of running software through compat5x?

2005-12-12 Thread RW
On Monday 12 December 2005 10:55, Ashley Moran wrote:
> I was going to reinstall it with 6.0 and I just wondered if there was any
> reason why you shouldn't run a production server on the compat5x port for
> any length of time.  I can't afford the downtime to remove all the ports
> and re-install them.

compat5x  provides 5.x libraries for packages that are built against FreeBSD 
5.x  If you upgraded from 5.x, you will still have those libraries left 
behind, and as far as I can see they take priority over the  compat5x  
copies. If security patches are applied to compat5x,  you may have to track 
down the insecure libraries manually, or update packages.

If you later update or add packages, you may run into library conflicts.
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Re: Disadvantages of running software through compat5x?

2005-12-12 Thread Glenn Dawson

At 02:55 AM 12/12/2005, Ashley Moran wrote:

I have only one machine left running 5.4, but unfortunately it's a live web
and database server (tight budget!) so I don't like tinkering with it too
much.

I was going to reinstall it with 6.0 and I just wondered if there was any
reason why you shouldn't run a production server on the compat5x port for any
length of time.  I can't afford the downtime to remove all the ports and
re-install them.


Unless there's something specific you need that 6.0 has and 5.4 
doesn't, I'd say leave the machine the way it is.  An upgrade like 
that on a production system is just inviting problems.


-Glenn



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Disadvantages of running software through compat5x?

2005-12-12 Thread Ashley Moran
I have only one machine left running 5.4, but unfortunately it's a live web 
and database server (tight budget!) so I don't like tinkering with it too 
much.

I was going to reinstall it with 6.0 and I just wondered if there was any 
reason why you shouldn't run a production server on the compat5x port for any 
length of time.  I can't afford the downtime to remove all the ports and 
re-install them.

Ashley
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Re: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software...

2005-12-11 Thread Aaron Peterson
> > In the windows world I used dvd decrypter.  It output .iso files directly,
> > and it supported removing macrovision (and most importantly) removing
> > prohibited user actions ( PUA / PUO ).
> >
> > I cannot find anything like this for FreeBSD.  I asked previously, and was
> > shown sysutls/dvdbackup.  This program is extremely limited, has no
> > macrovision or PUA functionality, _and_ does not output ISO files.  I know
> > I can take its output and re-form it back to an ISO, but I bet it is not
> > the same as a direct ISO.  And a perfect copy is important to me.
> >
> > So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO
> > on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above?
> >
> > (a linux program that could be run under binary compatibility would be
> > fine with me ...)

>
> lxdvdrip works well. And ShrinkTo5 should be ported over to linux soon.
> once that happens we should have a very good program to use.

Ripping a dvd to an image that can be burned to a writable dvd is not
a cut and dried procedure for a number of reasons.  I have used a
number of tools on bsd to get the job done in various circumstances. 
The tools I've used include vobcopy, mplayer/mencoder, transcode (for
tcrequant), mjpeg-tools (for mplex), dvdauthor, and growisofs.  I have
also used dvdrip with some success.  Hope this information moves you
in the right direction.

Aaron
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Re: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software...

2005-12-11 Thread Remington
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 18:04 -0500, user wrote:
> In the windows world I used dvd decrypter.  It output .iso files directly,
> and it supported removing macrovision (and most importantly) removing
> prohibited user actions ( PUA / PUO ).
> 
> I cannot find anything like this for FreeBSD.  I asked previously, and was
> shown sysutls/dvdbackup.  This program is extremely limited, has no
> macrovision or PUA functionality, _and_ does not output ISO files.  I know
> I can take its output and re-form it back to an ISO, but I bet it is not
> the same as a direct ISO.  And a perfect copy is important to me.
> 
> So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO
> on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above?
> 
> (a linux program that could be run under binary compatibility would be
> fine with me ...)
> 
> 
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lxdvdrip works well. And ShrinkTo5 should be ported over to linux soon.
once that happens we should have a very good program to use.

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Re: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software...

2005-12-11 Thread Mac Mason
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:04:10PM -0500, user wrote:
> So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO
> on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above?

multimedia/dvdrip has worked well for me in the past. I've never
ripped straight to .iso, but I think dvdrip can handle it.

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_still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software...

2005-12-11 Thread user

In the windows world I used dvd decrypter.  It output .iso files directly,
and it supported removing macrovision (and most importantly) removing
prohibited user actions ( PUA / PUO ).

I cannot find anything like this for FreeBSD.  I asked previously, and was
shown sysutls/dvdbackup.  This program is extremely limited, has no
macrovision or PUA functionality, _and_ does not output ISO files.  I know
I can take its output and re-form it back to an ISO, but I bet it is not
the same as a direct ISO.  And a perfect copy is important to me.

So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO
on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above?

(a linux program that could be run under binary compatibility would be
fine with me ...)



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Re: Video Conferencing Server Software ... Recommendations ... ?

2005-12-09 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 08:58:35PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> Basically, I'm looking for something to run on a remote server, that other 
> parties to connect to, create conferences, invite other users into, etc 
> ... including full video / audio and, if possible, whiteboard ...
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations that work under FreeBSD?

For IPv4 multicast and partial IPv6 support there are the old mbone
tools like sdr/vic/vat/rat/wbd/wb/nte.  That includes tools for setting
up and advertising conferences, and using audio, video, whiteboard, and
text chat.  Though they might be a little old.  There is also programs
like gnomemeeting, kphone, and other h232 or sip apps for doing
conferencing, but, at least gnomemeeting, isn't as well suited for large
groups.  I haven't used kphone or any other h232 or sip apps.

> 
> Thanks ...
> 
> 
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Video Conferencing Server Software ... Recommendations ... ?

2005-12-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Basically, I'm looking for something to run on a remote server, that other 
parties to connect to, create conferences, invite other users into, etc 
... including full video / audio and, if possible, whiteboard ...


Does anyone have any recommendations that work under FreeBSD?

Thanks ...


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Re: motion detection software

2005-12-07 Thread Aftab Jahan Subedar
Actually there is no such thing as motion detection using any camera. 
Its the calculation of deference between two images/snaps.

so should I say "logic motion detection"

There are so many of them in /usr/ports/graphics based on this 
theory.  gspy is one of them I can recall.

-Jahan

At 09:19 AM 12/1/2005, laszlo vagner wrote:

anyone know of a port/package that can detect motion from a usb camera
or a logitech par port and save the image?

one of the ones i found was "motion" but it was for linux.

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Re: gcc in freebsd to compile linux software

2005-12-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:06:16PM +0100, Javier Matos wrote:
> Hi, I need to compile a program to run it in a linux box.
> I know that freebsd has linux compatibility with binary files.
> 
> Can I compile using freebsd gcc a binary file that can run under linux and 
> try if it works with freebsd binary linux emulation??
> 
> If it is possible... what kind of options need I to put when I compile with 
> gcc?

No, but if you install a linux_devtools* port you can chroot to
/compat/linux and build "as usual" with the linux gcc there.

Kris


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gcc in freebsd to compile linux software

2005-12-01 Thread Javier Matos
Hi, I need to compile a program to run it in a linux box.
I know that freebsd has linux compatibility with binary files.

Can I compile using freebsd gcc a binary file that can run under linux and try 
if it works with freebsd binary linux emulation??

If it is possible... what kind of options need I to put when I compile with gcc?

Thx!
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Re: motion detection software

2005-11-30 Thread Peter Clutton
On 12/1/05, laszlo vagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> anyone know of a port/package that can detect motion from a usb camera
> or a logitech par port and save the image?
>
> one of the ones i found was "motion" but it was for linux.

If you don't find one, you can run linux programs on FreeBSD through
linux emulation. It can be instaled from the ports, or you might have
selected it during install. In which case just follow the instruction
for your the motion software and install.
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motion detection software

2005-11-30 Thread laszlo vagner
anyone know of a port/package that can detect motion from a usb camera 
or a logitech par port and save the image? 

one of the ones i found was "motion" but it was for linux.

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Off-Topic: Vendor Control Software for computer labs

2005-11-23 Thread Sean Murphy

I need help with finding a software to do this

Going into your local computer lab paying the clerk for an hour of 
computer time he accepts your money, types in some information in his 
computer, and tells you what computer station to sit at.  The computer 
works for that hour, gives you a warning when a couple of minutes are 
left and then kicks you out.  I noticed the software was in the 
"systray" but it was from a country that I didn't know the language.


I have tried googling and have come up with nothing.  Does someone know 
this product?


Thanks
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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Eric F Crist

On Nov 22, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Greg Barniskis wrote:


Gerard Seibert wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:49:23 AM, Greg Barniskis  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Not nearly as featureful (read: bloated, cough, cough) as MS  
Project, but if all you want is simple Gantt charts and work  
breakdowns then try out Imendio Planner for gnome, which can be  
found under ports/deskutils.



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On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:
The term 'featureful' obviously varies from individual to  
individual and

situation to situation.


Agreed, but I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself king  
of infinite space. I like small, tightly focused apps. =)


I have used MS Project in the past, and found it to be a rather  
useful
tool. The learning curve was not as extensive as I had first  
feared. I
certainly did not find it to be over burdened by an excessive  
number of
unused features. In fact, I rather appreciated the fact that they  
were

available if I should ever require them.


To each, their own. My sense was the opposite though. The installer  
is over 130 MB and there are many features I'd never go near,  
mainly MS Project Server (and if I recall, Exchange) integration  
stuff. In other words, a bunch of proprietary stuff without much  
use to anyone outside of a largish Wincentric environment.



In any case, check out: http://www.openworkbench.org.


Someone else in the thread mentioned that one. I was disappointed  
to see that it is not truly OSS (some components remain  
proprietary, and actually playing with the code requires Visual  
Studio, according to their FAQ).


Also, it is for Windows only, and while I have to use Windows every  
day I quite frequently wish that I did not, so I'm not about to add  
yet another Windows-only tool to the bag.


Anyone know any real OSS (preferably cross platform) app that does  
what gnome planner does, only better?


I'm coming into this late, but did you ever consider eGroupware?

I think it's www.egroupware.org.  We use it here fairly successfully.

-
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Secure Computing Networks
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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Greg Barniskis

Gerard Seibert wrote:

On Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:49:23 AM, Greg Barniskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Not nearly as featureful (read: bloated, cough, cough) as MS 
Project, but if all you want is simple Gantt charts and work 
breakdowns then try out Imendio Planner for gnome, which can be 
found under ports/deskutils.



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On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:

The term 'featureful' obviously varies from individual to individual and
situation to situation. 


Agreed, but I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself king 
of infinite space. I like small, tightly focused apps. =)




I have used MS Project in the past, and found it to be a rather useful
tool. The learning curve was not as extensive as I had first feared. I
certainly did not find it to be over burdened by an excessive number of
unused features. In fact, I rather appreciated the fact that they were
available if I should ever require them.


To each, their own. My sense was the opposite though. The installer 
is over 130 MB and there are many features I'd never go near, mainly 
MS Project Server (and if I recall, Exchange) integration stuff. In 
other words, a bunch of proprietary stuff without much use to anyone 
outside of a largish Wincentric environment.


In any case, check out: http://www.openworkbench.org. 


Someone else in the thread mentioned that one. I was disappointed to 
see that it is not truly OSS (some components remain proprietary, 
and actually playing with the code requires Visual Studio, according 
to their FAQ).


Also, it is for Windows only, and while I have to use Windows every 
day I quite frequently wish that I did not, so I'm not about to add 
yet another Windows-only tool to the bag.


Anyone know any real OSS (preferably cross platform) app that does 
what gnome planner does, only better?



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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:49:23 AM, Greg Barniskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Project Management Software
Wrote these words of wisdom:

> SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software that i 
> > can use with FreeBSD?
> > Something similar to MS Project..?
> 
> Not nearly as featureful (read: bloated, cough, cough) as MS 
> Project, but if all you want is simple Gantt charts and work 
> breakdowns then try out Imendio Planner for gnome, which can be 
> found under ports/deskutils.

> -- 
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> Library Interchange Network (LINK)
> , (608) 266-6348


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On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied:

The term 'featureful' obviously varies from individual to individual and
situation to situation. If all you need to do is add a few numbers
together, any calculator will suffice. However, if you require
trigonometry expressions, then obviously you will require a more
'featureful' calculator.

I have used MS Project in the past, and found it to be a rather useful
tool. The learning curve was not as extensive as I had first feared. I
certainly did not find it to be over burdened by an excessive number of
unused features. In fact, I rather appreciated the fact that they were
available if I should ever require them.

In any case, check out: http://www.openworkbench.org. They have a nice
piece of software form what I have heard. I have never actually used it
however, although I plan to at the next appropriate opportunity.

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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

used by FreeBSD developer for many years !


Software project management is only a small subset of the project
management universe.



of course. in *nix world traditionally there are lots of small programs, 
each doing well it's small work, instead of one huge program.


it's good to concentrate on that solution and then search.
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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Greg Barniskis

SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS wrote:

Hi,

Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software that i can 
use with FreeBSD?
Something similar to MS Project..?


Not nearly as featureful (read: bloated, cough, cough) as MS 
Project, but if all you want is simple Gantt charts and work 
breakdowns then try out Imendio Planner for gnome, which can be 
found under ports/deskutils.





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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Kurt Buff
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software
>> that i can use with FreeBSD?
>> Something similar to MS Project..?
> 
> 
> i don't know M$ Project but cvs works fine, and is really good as it's
> used by FreeBSD developer for many years !

Software project management is only a small subset of the project
management universe.

In the Win32 world, probably the best OSS alternative to MS Project is
OpenWorkbench - http://www.openworkbench.org

In the *nix world, there are some alternatives, but I'm not familiar
with them.

However, this might yield some results for you:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=project+management+site%3Asf.net&btnG=Google+Search

In particular, I note http://sourceforge.net/projects/dotproject, which
looks interesting, though I've not tried it.
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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 11/22/05 05:16 PM, Wojciech Puchar sat at the `puter and typed:
> > Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software that i 
> > can use with FreeBSD?
> > Something similar to MS Project..?
> 
> i don't know M$ Project but cvs works fine, and is really good as it's 
> used by FreeBSD developer for many years !

I don't think that's not the question, actually.  As I understand it,
he's asking for project planning software, you know, dates,
deliverables, etc.  M$ Project is the one thing I haven't seen
suitably reproduced or bested in the open source world.

CVS on the other hand, is version control, which can be completely
unrelated and independed of project management, particularly if the
project has nothing to do with code.  I know, this is a strange
concept for many on this list. :)

Nonetheless, even construction and urban development contractors use
project planning software.

If anyone knows of a project that actually does what M$ Project does,
I'd be interested as well.

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Re: Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software that i can 
use with FreeBSD?
Something similar to MS Project..?


i don't know M$ Project but cvs works fine, and is really good as it's 
used by FreeBSD developer for many years !

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Project Management Software

2005-11-22 Thread SPYRIDON PAPADOPOULOS
Hi,

Could you please tell me if there is any Project Management software that i can 
use with FreeBSD?
Something similar to MS Project..?
Please advice

Thank you in advance
Spiros Papadopoulos

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RE: Contact Management Software

2005-10-19 Thread Murray Taylor
No problemo ... 

Its not uncommon for ports to be behind as they are maintained by 
someone who may not necessarily be on the actual developer
team, but is just a user who has found the app, liked it,
and (hopefully with the nod from the original developers) 
rolled it into a port. Keeping it up to date is a task that
then must be done by this maintainer in their spare time.

The benefit is that usually the port has actually been tested
on FreeBSd and appropriate patches built into the port.
For some apps, no patches are necessary and you can go straight to
the master site for the most current version.
Others may be targetted at other platforms / libraries etc
and require the patch, so going to the master site wont work
without you personally figuring out the patch. (looking
at the make file for the ported version may help here)


cheers
mjt

-Original Message-
From: Mark Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Murray Taylor
Cc: Vampire D; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Contact Management Software

Thanks for the suggestion of SugarCRM. I think this may work out great 
for him with a couple of modules. :)

Only thing left is to figure out how to print labels/mail merge from it,

but their community may have a solution.

One thing I did notice as well, the SugarCRM website has the latest 
version as 3.5.1, and the version ports is only 2.5.1b_1. I've got 3.5.1

running on a test server to demo to this co-worker and it's working 
great so far.

Thanks again.

-Mark

Murray Taylor wrote:
> Is your ports tree up to date ??? From a 5.4 install disk it may be a
> snapshot of things at the time the 
> 5.4 iso images were made...
>  
> Ports are not dependant on the os rev level -- I'm running 4.11 and it
> is in my ports tree
> which I update about once a week
>  
> cd /usr/ports
> make search key=sugar | grep Port
>  
> If it doesnt return 
> Port:sugarcrm-2.5.1b_1
>  
> or so then your ports tree needs updating.
>  
> mjt
> 
> 
> 
> From: Vampire D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: Murray Taylor
> Subject: Re: Contact Management Software
> 
> 
> I did a look on 5.4 and I do not see SugarCRM but when I went to
> FreeBSD.org/ports I did see it was under DeskUtils.  Any reason I
would
> not have this particular?  This is free install of 5.4, not from
> upgrade.  All ports were installed at install. 
> 
> 
> On 10/17/05, Murray Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>   SugarCRM is in ports and its web site has a good demo
>   
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew
> P.
>   Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:34 PM
>   To: Mark Kane 
>   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>   Subject: Re: Contact Management Software
>   
>   On 10/14/05, Mark Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>   > Hi everyone. I have a co-worker who wants to get away from
> Windows as
>   > much as possible. I've told him about free and open source
>   alternatives
>   > for everything else he needs to do, but contact management is 
>   something
>   > I'm having problems with.
>   >
>   > The good thing is he doesn't already have years of data in one
> format
>   > like ACT. I'm looking for a something comparable on the
> FreeBSD side
>   to
>   > Maximizer, ACT, or Goldmine. Some key features he requires
> are: 
>   >
>   > - Contact Manager
>   > - Keep track of every aspect of every contact. Things like
> call logs,
>   > letter logs, comments, to-do lists.
>   > - Reports of contacts. To do items, completed items, etc 
>   > - Mail merge
>   > - Label Printing
>   > - Expense report. Hours spent on clients or projects.
>   > - Possible remote access so a couple associates could login
> and add
>   > things and look at things
>   > - Possible integration with an email client like Mozilla
> Thunderbird
>   to
>   > file incoming mail by contact.
>   >
>   > He already owns the Maximizer 7 software for Windows but has
> not
>   started
>   > to use it yet, so that's why I'm trying to get suggestions or
> input on 
>   > what you all use for your contact management and sales
> software.
>   >
>   > Thanks very much in advance!
>   >
>   > -Mark
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