Re: Upgrade v5.x to v7.0

2008-08-13 Thread Vince Sabio

** At 12:14 -0400 on 08/11/2008, Robert Huff wrote:

Vince Sabio writes:


  I am currently running FreeBSD v5.1 (yes, I am a Bad Person(tm)),


Why?


Why am I a Bad Person(tm), or why am I still running v5.1?


and need to update it to v7.0. Questions:


  1. Can I go straight from v5.1 to v7.0? Or do I need to make a
  stop at v6.x?


It is probably technically possible.
However: when jumping major versions, my advice is always If
possible, install from clean disk.


I assume you mean install from a clean CD -- I did that, and it 
worked like a charm. And, for anyone else running v5.x who is 
considering upgrading to v7.0, this seems to be a very good way to do 
it. I downloaded and burned a bootonly.iso, and then ran the upgrade 
via [passive] FTP. Ten or fifteen minutes later, I was booting into 
v7.0.



In either case: remember to save critical config files
(rc.conf, the kernel config, sshd_config, the named directory, etc.)
elsewhere.


The fact that the upgrade worked proves that my backups are in good 
shape -- if they weren't, then the upgrade would have overwritten the 
system disk and then failed. ;-)


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Upgrade v5.x to v7.0

2008-08-11 Thread Robert Huff

Vince Sabio writes:

  I am currently running FreeBSD v5.1 (yes, I am a Bad Person(tm)),

Why?

   and need to update it to v7.0. Questions:
  
  1. Can I go straight from v5.1 to v7.0? Or do I need to make a
  stop at v6.x? 

It is probably technically possible.
However: when jumping major versions, my advice is always If
possible, install from clean disk.
On the down-side, it is moderately more work than upgrading.
On the up-side:

1) if something goes Horribly Wrong, you're not screwed
2) you will avoid library version conflicts, and indeed reclaim
space used by orphaned libraries (and other files)
3) if desirable, you can re-size partitions

Others are left as an exercise to the reader.
In either case: remember to save critical config files
(rc.conf, the kernel config, sshd_config, the named directory, etc.)
elsewhere.


Robert Huff


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Upgrade v5.x to v7.0

2008-08-11 Thread Vince Sabio
I am currently running FreeBSD v5.1 (yes, I am a Bad Person(tm)), and 
need to update it to v7.0. Questions:


1. Can I go straight from v5.1 to v7.0? Or do I need to make a stop at v6.x?

2. I'm Unix shell literate with a reasonable level of Solaris 
sysadmin experience, but have no experience (yet) with FreeBSD 
updates.  Is there a site with step-by-step instructions for the 
uninitiated, to help minimize Pr(failure)?


3. Anything else I should know?

Muchas gracias

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Re: Upgrade v5.x to v7.0

2008-08-11 Thread Ivan Voras

Vince Sabio wrote:
I am currently running FreeBSD v5.1 (yes, I am a Bad Person(tm)), and 
need to update it to v7.0. Questions:


1. Can I go straight from v5.1 to v7.0? Or do I need to make a stop at 
v6.x?


Theoretically it might be possible but definitely not recommended. 5.1 
is very old (it's not even labeled STABLE - are you sure FreeBSD 
updates track such old releases?) and there might be unexpected problems.


2. I'm Unix shell literate with a reasonable level of Solaris sysadmin 
experience, but have no experience (yet) with FreeBSD updates.  Is there 
a site with step-by-step instructions for the uninitiated, to help 
minimize Pr(failure)?


3. Anything else I should know?


You probably don't want to do it with binary upgrades, for many reasons, 
including unexpected problems (i.e. possibility of ending up with a 
system so messed up nobody could help you restore it). Do a source 
upgrade to 6.0 then to 7.0 - it's not hard. For best effects, you need 
to also recompile all additional ports installed on the server 
(actually, you *can* run ports compiled for 5.x on 7.x but as soon as 
you need to upgrade one of them, you'll probably need to upgrade all or 
most of them because of cross-dependencies).




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Re: Upgrade v5.x to v7.0

2008-08-11 Thread Vince Sabio

** At 00:25 +0200 on 08/12/2008, Ivan Voras wrote:

Vince Sabio wrote:
I am currently running FreeBSD v5.1 (yes, I am a Bad Person(tm)), 
and need to update it to v7.0. Questions:


1. Can I go straight from v5.1 to v7.0? Or do I need to make a stop at v6.x?


Theoretically it might be possible but definitely not recommended. 
5.1 is very old (it's not even labeled STABLE


Neither am I -- so my FreeBSD box and I are even.


- are you sure FreeBSD updates track such old releases?)


I don't think they do.


and there might be unexpected problems.

2. I'm Unix shell literate with a reasonable level of Solaris 
sysadmin experience, but have no experience (yet) with FreeBSD 
updates.  Is there a site with step-by-step instructions for the 
uninitiated, to help minimize Pr(failure)?


3. Anything else I should know?


You probably don't want to do it with binary upgrades, for many 
reasons, including unexpected problems (i.e. possibility of ending 
up with a system so messed up nobody could help you restore it). Do 
a source upgrade to 6.0 then to 7.0 - it's not hard. For best 
effects, you need to also recompile all additional ports installed 
on the server (actually, you *can* run ports compiled for 5.x on 7.x 
but as soon as you need to upgrade one of them, you'll probably need 
to upgrade all or most of them because of cross-dependencies).


Got it. There are sites that go through the 6.x to 7.0 upgrade, but 
I've foud nothing that explains how to get from 5. to 6.x. Any ideas 
here?


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