Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-08-17 Thread RW
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:46:50 +0200
David DEMELIER demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 2010/6/1 Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com:

 The differences are that portupgrade use a database, it's written in
 ruby while portmaster is only one shell script. That's why I really
 prefere portmaster that also have zsh completion and is faster.

Am I the only one to regard portmaster's lack of a failsafe install as
a significant problem? 

All three tools will make a back-up of an installed package before
deinstalling it and installing the new version. If this fails
Portupgrade and portmanager will immediately restore the backup usually
with no more disruption that a normal upgrade.

Portmaster leaves you to restore the backup manually which is a minor
hassle if you notice it immediately, a problem if you find out the hard
way, and a potential nightmare if you miss it altogether. 




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Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-06-01 Thread Eitan Adler
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:

 Why do we need two tools ?

Its three. Add portmanager.

The answer is personal choice and we number of bikesheds.

Also portmaster used to not be able to work with packages when
portupgrade could.

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Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-06-01 Thread David DEMELIER
2010/6/1 Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com:
 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:

 Why do we need two tools ?

 Its three. Add portmanager.

 The answer is personal choice and we number of bikesheds.

 Also portmaster used to not be able to work with packages when
 portupgrade could.


portmaster can! See portmaster manpage. -P[P] options.

The differences are that portupgrade use a database, it's written in
ruby while portmaster is only one shell script. That's why I really
prefere portmaster that also have zsh completion and is faster.

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Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-06-01 Thread Eitan Adler
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:46 AM, David DEMELIER
demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/6/1 Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com:
 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:

 Why do we need two tools ?

 Its three. Add portmanager.

 The answer is personal choice and we number of bikesheds.

 Also portmaster used to not be able to work with packages when
 portupgrade could.


 portmaster can! See portmaster manpage. -P[P] options.


Also portmaster used to not be able to work with packages when
portupgrade could.

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Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-06-01 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:26:18 +0300
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com articulated:


 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:
 
  Why do we need two tools ?
 
 Its three. Add portmanager.
 
 The answer is personal choice and we number of bikesheds.
 
 Also portmaster used to not be able to work with packages when
 portupgrade could.

I use portmanager with the '-p' flag for when I absolutely, positively
have to insure that all dependencies are updated correctly. Neither of
the other two utilities seem to get it correct 100% of the time. Plus,
portmanmager is written in 'C' and IMHO is quicker than the other two.

Just my 2¢.

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Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-06-01 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Jerry wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:26:18 +0300
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com articulated:



On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:37 AM, zaxis z_a...@163.com wrote:

Why do we need two tools ?


Its three. Add portmanager.

The answer is personal choice and we number of bikesheds.

Also portmaster used to not be able to work with packages when
portupgrade could.


I use portmanager with the '-p' flag for when I absolutely, positively
have to insure that all dependencies are updated correctly. Neither of
the other two utilities seem to get it correct 100% of the time. Plus,
portmanmager is written in 'C' and IMHO is quicker than the other two.

Just my 2¢.

+1 for including portmanager in any list of port management tools, just 
doesn't get 'official' sanction for some reason.


Chris
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What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-05-31 Thread zaxis

Why do we need two tools ?

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Re: What's the difference between portupgrade and portmaster ?

2010-05-31 Thread doug



On Mon, 31 May 2010, zaxis wrote:



Why do we need two tools ?

Actually there are at least three. Add portmanager to the mix. Its the same 
reason there is more than one text editor. I use portmaster and portmanager 
depending on what I want to do. Its mostly personal choice.

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