Re: seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system

2009-09-26 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Henry Olyer wrote:


I have read all about the WPA sub-system;  I've also setup my /boot/loader.conf 
and /etc/rc.conf files, correctly.
Except one small detail...

ifconfig ath0 up scan

never returns.

And when I do a:

ifconfig ath0

It tells me I don't have a carrier.


Let me repeat:


Then you need the entries in /etc/rc.conf
to create the wlan0 interface ...
wlans_ath0=wlan0


After /etc/rc.d/netif runs, that is equivalent to

  ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0

Then use the wlan0 interface instead of ath0:

  ifconfig wlan0 up scan

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Re: seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system

2009-09-26 Thread Henry Olyer
I have read all about the WPA sub-system;  I've also setup my
/boot/loader.conf and /etc/rc.conf files, correctly.
Except one small detail...

ifconfig ath0 up scan

never returns.

And when I do a:

ifconfig ath0

It tells me I don't have a carrier.

I know the wireless router is working because this Apple sees it.  So the
problem is on my Presario.

But the HP CQ-60 Presario is a pretty popular laptop, and the Atheros
chip-set is also very widely used.  So, some one has almost certainly been
here before me.

I think my only problem now is to get the carrier logic to respond.  Of
course I'd like to be able to control my wireless by pushing the light
button, to turn on and off wireless access.

Does any FreeBSD user have the button working?  I understand it turns blue
when it's up.  Orange when it's not...

This is a friend's email account.

I am Jules Gilbert, and thank's very much -- I couldn't do this stuff by
myself.

--jg





On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Henry Olyer wrote:

  I am putting up 7.2 and I am attempting to use a wireless router.
 How do I tell the 7.2  configurator to use my router, wirelessly?

 --jg

 I am using an Atheros chip-set, so I am not expecting trouble.  I just
 need
 FBSD to see my system.  I know my wireless 'name'.  What do I do??


 If you're using WPA, create your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf:

 network={
  ssid=myssid
  psk=mykey
 }

 Then you need the entries in /etc/rc.conf to create the wlan0 interface and
 set it up for WPA and DHCP:

 wlans_ath0=wlan0
 ifconfig_wlan0=WPA DHCP

 If you're not using WPA, well, why not?

 See the Handbook for more:


 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html

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seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system

2009-09-22 Thread Henry Olyer
I am putting up 7.2 and I am attempting to use a wireless router.
How do I tell the 7.2  configurator to use my router, wirelessly?

--jg

I am using an Atheros chip-set, so I am not expecting trouble.  I just need
FBSD to see my system.  I know my wireless 'name'.  What do I do??
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Re: seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system

2009-09-22 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Henry Olyer wrote:


I am putting up 7.2 and I am attempting to use a wireless router.
How do I tell the 7.2  configurator to use my router, wirelessly?

--jg

I am using an Atheros chip-set, so I am not expecting trouble.  I just need
FBSD to see my system.  I know my wireless 'name'.  What do I do??


If you're using WPA, create your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf:

network={
  ssid=myssid
  psk=mykey
}

Then you need the entries in /etc/rc.conf to create the wlan0 interface 
and set it up for WPA and DHCP:


wlans_ath0=wlan0
ifconfig_wlan0=WPA DHCP

If you're not using WPA, well, why not?

See the Handbook for more:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html

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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-27 Thread Mel
On Monday 22 December 2008 14:48:52 Corey Chandler wrote:
 Failing that, the
 Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit.

Yes it is a half bad unit. If you make changes to routing or firewall rules, 
you need to unplug everything, power cycle it, say a prayer and hope it 
works. I never got it working correctly at a previous location. Over here it 
works, but have no need for it anymore, since a FreeBSD wireless router is 
doing it's job.
There are many advantages of using a full-blown computer for (wireless) 
routing/nat/firewall, most notably the diagnostics that are available.

Our FreeBSD nat is using:

PPP/ADSL to provider:
f...@pci0:2:8:0:class=0x02 card=0x30138086 chip=0x24498086 
rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82559ER 82559ER Integrated 10Base-T/100Base-TX Ethernet 
Controller'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

Wireless:
a...@pci0:2:10:0:   class=0x02 card=0x7057144f chip=0x0013168c 
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.'
device = 'AR5212, AR5213 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

Wire, soon to be upgraded to Gbit:
x...@pci0:2:11:0:class=0x02 card=0x100010b7 chip=0x920010b7 
rev=0x78 hdr=0x00
vendor = '3COM Corp, Networking Division'
device = '3C905 CX-TX-M Fast EtherLink for PC Management NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

ISC dhcpd, pf including altq provide the services. Currently connected with an 
Intel wpi(4), mother in law a few houses down uses some linksys card on 
windows, daughter uses a D-Link wireless with atheros chip on Kubuntu. 
Currently using WEP, but that'll change when lagg(4) will support WPA on 
wireless interfaces or when I get tired of waiting and decide to netgraph it 
myself somehow.
-- 
Mel

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and never get to the software part.
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-27 Thread Corey Chandler

Roger Olofsson wrote:



Corey Chandler skrev:

Nerius Landys wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
approach.  

Good man!

I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
I already have.  
It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you 
describe.  Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or 
you'll see some... odd breakages.

Also I don't know too much about security, like how
to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.  
Ugh.  MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother 
with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that 
particular machines always inherit particular addresses.



Is there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
  


Absolutely.  Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is 
trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that.


Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for 
configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project!


-- CJC
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Hello Corey,

I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - 
as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN 
part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part.


To examplify.

Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 
192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11.


Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10.
The problem with doing that is a lot of systems start throwing weird 
errors in a double NAT environment.   I'd probably avoid that step and 
restrict wireless to its own VLAN if I were to go that route...

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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-27 Thread Corey Chandler

Mel wrote:

On Monday 22 December 2008 14:48:52 Corey Chandler wrote:
  

Failing that, the
Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit.



Yes it is a half bad unit. 


Absolutely-- if you're running out of the box firmware.  I use DD-WRT or 
Tomato specifically to get around the issues you describe.  The reason I 
go for the GL is that it's a more robust platform than their standard 
wrt-54g, which for some ungodly reason they started stripping flash and 
processing power out of after their switch to VxWorks.


--CJC
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-27 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:27:56 -0800
Corey Chandler li...@sequestered.net wrote:

 Mel wrote:
  On Monday 22 December 2008 14:48:52 Corey Chandler wrote:

  Failing that, the
  Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit.
  
 
  Yes it is a half bad unit. 
 
 Absolutely-- if you're running out of the box firmware.  I use DD-WRT
 or Tomato specifically to get around the issues you describe.  The
 reason I go for the GL is that it's a more robust platform than their
 standard wrt-54g, which for some ungodly reason they started
 stripping flash and processing power out of after their switch to
 VxWorks.

Probably because they realised they could get away with less memory and
a slower CPU because code runs more efficiently on VxWorks vs. Linux
on the same hardware.  Of course it also provides fewer features than
Linux, so I'd prefer a Linux-based router over VxWorks.

-- 
Bruce Cran
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-27 Thread Roger Olofsson



Corey Chandler skrev:

Roger Olofsson wrote:



Corey Chandler skrev:

Nerius Landys wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
approach.  

Good man!

I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
I already have.  
It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you 
describe.  Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or 
you'll see some... odd breakages.

Also I don't know too much about security, like how
to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.  
Ugh.  MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother 
with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that 
particular machines always inherit particular addresses.



Is there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
  


Absolutely.  Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is 
trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that.


Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for 
configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project!


-- CJC
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Hello Corey,

I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - 
as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN 
part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part.


To examplify.

Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 
192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11.


Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10.
The problem with doing that is a lot of systems start throwing weird 
errors in a double NAT environment.   I'd probably avoid that step and 
restrict wireless to its own VLAN if I were to go that route...

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Hello Corey,

There is no double NAT involved.

/Roger

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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-27 Thread Mario Lobo
On Saturday 27 December 2008 16:49:54 Roger Olofsson wrote:
 Corey Chandler skrev:
  Roger Olofsson wrote:
  Corey Chandler skrev:
  Nerius Landys wrote:
  Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
  over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
  approach.
 
  Good man!
 
  I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
  wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
  I already have.
 
  It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you
  describe.  Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or
  you'll see some... odd breakages.
 
  Also I don't know too much about security, like how
  to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
  of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
  wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.
 
  Ugh.  MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother
  with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that
  particular machines always inherit particular addresses.
 
  Is there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
  network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
  security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
  proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
 
  Absolutely.  Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is
  trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that.
 
  Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for
  configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project!
 
  -- CJC
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  Hello Corey,
 
  I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router -
  as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN
  part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part.
 
  To examplify.
 
  Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns
  192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11.
 
  Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10.
 
  The problem with doing that is a lot of systems start throwing weird
  errors in a double NAT environment.   I'd probably avoid that step and
  restrict wireless to its own VLAN if I were to go that route...
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 There is no double NAT involved.

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That's correct. I have a D-link WBR-1310 here at home. Don't know if it's a 
bad or hip piece. I only know it was inside my budget and it does its job 
perfectly. 

Like I said on my first post to this thread, The WAN port is not used, hence 
no NAT inside the unit. Configured its LAN port ip with one of my LAN, 
plugged it to the switch, enabled WAP2 and assign a free LAN ip to any 
wireless device I want to allow on our home (plus the WAP key, of 
course).Voila, access point.

IF DHCP is wanted, I can use the unit's own but since its only one laptop I 
assigned a static IP to it.

The only NAT happens on the freebsd machine.

Don't know about the reputation of the Linksys WRT54GL. The only one I've 
tried I borrowed from a friend and worked very nicely also.
-- 
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 04:31:56PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote:
 Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
 over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
 approach.

That's probably the easiest way.

 I already have.  Also I don't know too much about security, like how
 to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.

There are some things you could do.  
- Use WPA2 if available or else at least WPA
  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access] 
- When using WPA with pre-shared keys, use long and random generated
  pre-shared keys. And change them often.
- You can turn off the broadcasting of the SSID 
  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSID] to discourage casual snooping. 
  This will not deter a determined attacker, however.
- If you are using the pf(4) firewall you could use authpf(8) as an
  additional security measure. [http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/authpf.html]
  It requires users to log in via ssh(8) and alters the firewall rules
  as long as the ssh session exists. This requires that the user must
  have additional authentication in the form of passwords or ssh keys in
  order to use the network. It provides an additional layer of access control.

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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-23 Thread Roger Olofsson



Nerius Landys skrev:

Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
approach.  I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
I already have.  Also I don't know too much about security, like how
to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.  Is
there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
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Hello again Nerius,

You have understood the MAC filtering correctly. You should also encrypt 
the wifi traffic by using at least WPA encryption. For most wifi routers 
this is a checkbox and a key or a passphrase that you enter. All clients 
that wants access and have their MAC address in the access list will 
have to enter the passphrase/key on the first connect.


This means that you control the MAC address list - all new wifi devices 
that wants to connect to your wifi LAN needs to get added to the MAC 
access list - manually by you. You also control the encryption 
passphrase - all wifi clients that wants to connect to your wifi LAN 
need to know the encryption passphrase. If you use WPA for encryption 
you will have a higher degree of security than using the old and 
hackable WEP.


Of course both the MAC list and the encryption key/passphrase are stored 
in the wifi router - so if you don't set a proper password for admin 
access to this one - all is lost. You should disable wireless access for 
admin (remote management) to it - only allow cabled access and use a 
good strong password.


Buzzwords? I dunno - I hope people on the mailing list help me out 
here... Is there a better/simpler way of doing this?


Greetings

/Roger

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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-23 Thread Roger Olofsson



Corey Chandler skrev:

Nerius Landys wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
approach.  

Good man!

I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
I already have.  
It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you 
describe.  Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or 
you'll see some... odd breakages.

Also I don't know too much about security, like how
to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.  
Ugh.  MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with 
using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular 
machines always inherit particular addresses.



Is there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
  


Absolutely.  Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial 
to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that.


Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for 
configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project!


-- CJC
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Hello Corey,

I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - 
as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN part 
of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part.


To examplify.

Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 
192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11.


Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10.

MAC addresses are indeed trivial to spoof - but if combined with a wifi 
encryption key/passphrase it adds to security.


Greetings

/Roger
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Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Nerius Landys
I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.

Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router?  What kind of
hardware would I install?  What is it called?  The PC only has PCI
slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server
equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal wireless card
suffice?  What model should I get?  I would prefer to set up static
internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible?
Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a
DHCP server).

Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
anything wrong with that approach?

So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:44 Nerius Landys wrote:
 I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
 network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
 bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.

 Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
 have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
 computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
 won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
 FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router?  What kind of
 hardware would I install?  What is it called?  The PC only has PCI
 slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server
 equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal wireless card
 suffice?  What model should I get?  I would prefer to set up static
 internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible?
 Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a
 DHCP server).

 Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
 to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
 already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
 would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
 wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
 anything wrong with that approach?

 So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
 jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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If you already have a wireless router, all you have to do is to turn it into 
an access point to your internal lan. Disable its DHCP server, assign a free 
LAN IP to the router LAN ethernet,plug one of its LAN ports into your switch  
and assign free LAN IPs to the wireless cards of your LAN machines.

That's what I did here at home and works like a charm.

If you need a DHCP server you have to set it up on the FreeBSD router.
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 22 December 2008 19:05:32 Mario Lobo wrote:
 On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:44 Nerius Landys wrote:
  I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
  network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
  bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.
 
  Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
  have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
  computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
  won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
  FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router?  What kind of
  hardware would I install?  What is it called?  The PC only has PCI
  slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server
  equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal wireless card
  suffice?  What model should I get?  I would prefer to set up static
  internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible?
  Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a
  DHCP server).
 
  Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
  to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
  already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
  would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
  wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
  anything wrong with that approach?
 
  So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
  jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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 If you already have a wireless router, all you have to do is to turn it
 into an access point to your internal lan. Disable its DHCP server, assign
 a free LAN IP to the router LAN ethernet,plug one of its LAN ports into
 your switch and assign free LAN IPs to the wireless cards of your LAN
 machines.

 That's what I did here at home and works like a charm.

 If you need a DHCP server you have to set it up on the FreeBSD router.

Sorry for replying to myself but it needed a correction. You CAN use the 
wireless router as your DHCP server!. Just assign a range from your LAN's 
IPs.

The WAN port won't matter. It won't be used.

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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Nerius Landys wrote:
 I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
 network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
 bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.

 Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
 have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
 computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
 won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
 FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router?  What kind of
 hardware would I install?  What is it called?  The PC only has PCI
 slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server
 equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal wireless card
 suffice?  What model should I get? 

Yes, a supported Wireless net card would suffice. It can be configured
to work in Access Point mode, essentially what a cheap wireless router
would. Instructions in section 32.3.5 here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html

While I haven't used FreeBSD in this mode,  from my experience
atheros-based (ath(4)) cards work well.
I have no less than three Dlink DWL-G520 cards and never had any
problems.  This is a rather older model now, newer atheros cards may
need a newer HAL than the one currently in the source tree (e.g. the
Aspire One uses a newer atheros, and needs a custom kernel with some of
the original files replaced. I believe -CURRENT has the newer HAL though).
I recently also got a Linksys WMP 54G that is based on a Ralink chipset
(ral(4)). This also works nicely.

  I would prefer to set up static
 internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible?
   

Sure. I am using static IPs in all my wireless clients.

 Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a
 DHCP server).

   

Configuring a DHCP server is very easy. I've only used it with wired
ethernet though. Have a read at  this:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-dhcp.html

 Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
 to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
 already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
 would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
 wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
 anything wrong with that approach?
   

I've used something similar and it worked. Don't know about possible
drawbacks, cause it was only a toy for me. My setup was something like this:

Wireless standalone router (built in NAT) -- FreeBSD system as wireless
client of the router + wired ethernet card -- FreeBSD NAT using pf /
ipfw -- Wired internal ethernet (with DHCP server) -- Wired client(s)

So I guess your approach is also possible.
 So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
 jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
   
Probably multiple solutions exist, start up by buying a cheap but
supported wireless card.
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:49:44PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote:
 I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
 network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
 bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.
 
 Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
 have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
 computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
 won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
 FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? 

Yes.

 What kind of hardware would I install?  What is it called? 

Wireless card.

 The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of
 wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal
 wireless card suffice?

Yes

 What model should I get? 

Now that's the tricky bit. If you look at the wlan(4) manual page,  you
will see the supported wireless chipset in the SEE ALSO section.

The trick is knowing which chipset a certain card has. It is usually
_not_ listed on the box or on the manufacturer's website, because it
comes with windoze drivers so most of the users don't give a damn about
the chipset. And some manufacturers put different chipsets in different
batches of the same card depending on what they can get their hands on.

If you see a card that you like and you cannot get the name and type of
chipset used, download the windows driver. It will come with an in
information file (.inf) that usually contains the name and type of the
chipset.

 I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network
 at home, would this be possible?  Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate
 at the thought of configuring a DHCP server).

You could use the wlan_acl module to grant access based on the MAC
address. But it might be better to do it somewhat more sophisticated and
run hostapd(8).

 Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
 to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
 already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
 would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
 wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
 anything wrong with that approach?

It's probably easier. But you'll have to be on the lookout for
vulnerabilities in the router software. 

When I got a wireless card for my desktop, the idea was to make a
wireless conncetion to my laptop. But you have to set up hostapd on the
access point, and wpa_supplicant on the laptop. And the manual pages in
question don't give an overview of the process, and neither does the
handbook. The section of the handbook dealing with wireless networks is
outdated and in need of expert attention. Unfortunately I didn't get far
enough to be that expert.

In the end it was much easier and faster for me to just plug a
cross-cable into the laptop from the desktop. (fast=nice when you're
running rsync(1) or if you're transferring dumps via nc(1))


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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Roger Olofsson



Nerius Landys skrev:

I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.

Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router?  What kind of
hardware would I install?  What is it called?  The PC only has PCI
slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server
equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal wireless card
suffice?  What model should I get?  I would prefer to set up static
internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible?
Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a
DHCP server).

Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
anything wrong with that approach?

So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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Hello Nerius,

I simply bought a standard wireless router, turned off all services in 
it except the access list and plugged it in the LAN. The access list 
filters on mac addresses and that level of security is fine where I live.


The wireless router does have firewall, dhcp, port triggering and such 
but I disabled all of those since my FreeBSDs do all of that already.


The wireless router has one port for internet and four ports as a normal 
switch, I don't use the internet port. I just plug in the ethernet cable 
in the switch part as uplink.


I considered having a wifi nic as accesspoint in the FreeBSD main 
router, however, it was better for me to be able to place the wifi 
router for optimal range of the wifi. Turned out that the centre point 
for wifi is not the same as where the main router is


Greetings

/Roger




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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
 So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
 jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.

If you have another PCI slot available in your router, one of these should work:

http://www.provantage.com/scripts/search.dll?QUERY=pci+802.11gSubmit.x=0Submit.y=0

HTH,

Kurt
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Corey Chandler

Roger Olofsson wrote:



Nerius Landys skrev:

I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several
network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a
bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces).  Everything works well.

Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless.  I really
have no experience with wireless networks.  I have a couple of
computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I
won in a raffle).  Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my
FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router?  What kind of
hardware would I install?  What is it called?  The PC only has PCI
slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server
equiptment if such a thing exists?  Would a normal wireless card
suffice?  What model should I get?  I would prefer to set up static
internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible?
Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a
DHCP server).

Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance
to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces).  I
already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys.  But then, I
would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the
wireless router.  So it would be a double-NAT so to speak.  Is there
anything wrong with that approach?

So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet
jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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Hello Nerius,

I simply bought a standard wireless router, turned off all services in 
it except the access list and plugged it in the LAN. The access list 
filters on mac addresses and that level of security is fine where I live.


The wireless router does have firewall, dhcp, port triggering and such 
but I disabled all of those since my FreeBSDs do all of that already.


The wireless router has one port for internet and four ports as a 
normal switch, I don't use the internet port. I just plug in the 
ethernet cable in the switch part as uplink.


I considered having a wifi nic as accesspoint in the FreeBSD main 
router, however, it was better for me to be able to place the wifi 
router for optimal range of the wifi. Turned out that the centre point 
for wifi is not the same as where the main router is


Greetings

/Roger




This is definitely the route I'd go.  I'm a BIG fan of the Buffalo 
wireless access points if they've re-entered the channel near you (a 
patent troll prevented their sale for the last 18 months, but that court 
case was just overturned), as they support DD-WRT.  Failing that, the 
Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit.


Custom firmware (dd-wrt, OpenWRT, Tomato) also give you a lot finer 
grained control over what happens on the AP.


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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Nerius Landys
Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
approach.  I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
I already have.  Also I don't know too much about security, like how
to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.  Is
there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
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Re: Wireless router?

2008-12-22 Thread Corey Chandler

Nerius Landys wrote:

Thank you all for your suggestions.  This will be a project for me
over the holidays.  I decided to go the standalone wireless router
approach.  

Good man!

I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone
wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that
I already have.  
It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you 
describe.  Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or 
you'll see some... odd breakages.

Also I don't know too much about security, like how
to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network.  One
of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the
wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else.  
Ugh.  MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with 
using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular 
machines always inherit particular addresses.



Is there any other way to provide security?  Like a password-protected
network?  What are the buzzwords for these security schemes?  Which
security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within
proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk?
  


Absolutely.  Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial 
to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that.


Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for 
configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project!


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Re: Secure Wireless Router using FreeBSD ...

2007-10-19 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
Taking this to questions@, since it feels like a more appropriate place
than [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Friday 19 October 2007 08:27:02 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 Within my Linksys, I can restrict wireless to MAC addresses, as well as
 using stuff like WPA ... quick search on google, and I found:

   
 http://www.howtoforge.com/setting_up_a_freebsd_wlan_access_point

 Which talks about setting up a WPA based wireless network ... but, some
 way of doing MAC based restrictions as well?  I'm suspecting that I can
 using pf, deny all MAC then allow specific ones ...

No, you can't do MAC address based filtering with pf, I think
other BSDs can tag frames with particular MAC addresses using
if_bridge and then create filtering rules based on tags.

But, it's even easier, you can do it with ifconfig when you
operate as an AP. Search the ifconfig manual for mac:

It can be argued that MAC address filtering enhances security.

 What I would like to 
 find, if it exists, is an application that I can run on FreeBSD so that
 there is a user friendly interface to this, vs having someone have to
 muddle with flat files and reload rules ...

 Now, I just found 'Chillispot' in ports ... has anyone used this?  Is
 there something else that is better that runs under FreeBSD?

Pfsense is FreeBSD based and very user friendly. But it's not something
you run on FreeBSD, it's a specialized version of FreeBSD. That said,
you *can* ssh to pfsense and control it almost as it were a FreeBSD box.
Perhaps you should give it a try, there is a live CD version.

HTH

Nikos

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RE: Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router

2005-02-16 Thread Timothy Radigan
If you have a wireless-AP you can hook that directly into a standard PCI nic
on the BSD machine.  I have a similar setup where I'm at.  I'm letting the
BSD do dhcp/firewall/nat/router/dns for each of my LANs.  The AP is doing
WEP but for added security I have an encrypted VPN for the wireless LAN with
the BSD box doing IPSec for that.  I combined 2 how-to's I found online.
Here are the URLs if you want to take a look.

http://www.freebsddiary.org/ipsec-wireless.php
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200401/wifi-ipsec.html

Tim

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I'm newbie and I'm trying to set up a test network
than isn't connected to Internet on FreeBSD 4.7

I was wondering if it is possible to set up my FreeBSD
4.7 as a authentication server for 802.1x security
using D-Link 624 Wireless Router.

1 more stupid question do I need a wireless NIC for
the FreeBSD box? 





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Re: Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router

2005-02-16 Thread Dustin Wilhoit
Yes it's very possible. :-)  You may want to check out FreeRadius 
(http://www.freeradius.org/).  It is a free radius server which is what 
I think you are looking for.  I will state that you need to take some 
time to read up on this a little bit as it can be irritating to set up 
a radius server if you are not familiar with all the settings.  I did 
this for my D-link AP for fun then went back to wep for reasons I don't 
remember.  Ohh, FreeRadius has a port, so you can start there. :-)  
It's a popular radius server for *nix.  A medium-sized datacenter I 
worked at used it for all communications gear and dial-up access.  
Anyways, good luck sir.

Dustin
On Feb 15, 2005, at 11:36 PM, rizazoe wrote:
I'm newbie and I'm trying to set up a test network
than isn't connected to Internet on FreeBSD 4.7
I was wondering if it is possible to set up my FreeBSD
4.7 as a authentication server for 802.1x security
using D-Link 624 Wireless Router.
1 more stupid question do I need a wireless NIC for
the FreeBSD box?

		
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Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router

2005-02-15 Thread rizazoe
I'm newbie and I'm trying to set up a test network
than isn't connected to Internet on FreeBSD 4.7

I was wondering if it is possible to set up my FreeBSD
4.7 as a authentication server for 802.1x security
using D-Link 624 Wireless Router.

1 more stupid question do I need a wireless NIC for
the FreeBSD box? 





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RE: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Ted,
 What linebacker did you have in mind?


Bob, who is your telephone company?

Ted

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Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-28 Thread Bob Perry
On (01/21/05 22:41), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:41 -0800
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  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:37 PM
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  Subject: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
 
 
  Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service.
  Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they
  made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD.
 
  At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks
  in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL.  The options,
  thus far,
  are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router.
 
 
 Hi Bob,
 
   I see a lot of people are telling you to install wireless but in
 my experienced opinion, you need to fix your wiring.  Your never going
 to have stable service if you don't, even if you put the DSL modem
 next to the building MPOE (Median Point of Entry).  Go wireless if you
 want
 to but get your inside wiring fixed.
 
   What we do around here is have people with this kind of problem
 sign up for Line-Backer insurance from the phone company, wait a few
 days, then call a trouble ticket into the phone company.  (Line Backer
 is a Qwest product, other phone companies have similar programs)
 This covers all your inside wiring and the phone techs will come out
 and fix it properly and you won't get hit with a $150 charge for
 inside wiring repair.
 

Want to thank everyone for their input. 

The project remains open because the one phone jack which was providing a 
steady connection is no longer cooperating.  In this instance, it looks 
like the hot ticket is to get a stable connection first.

But again I want to thank everyone for sharing their personal experiences 
and providing some valuable information.

Ted,
What linebacker did you have in mind?

Bob Perry

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RE: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Subject: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance


 Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service.
 Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they
 made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD.

 At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks
 in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL.  The options,
 thus far,
 are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router.


Hi Bob,

  I see a lot of people are telling you to install wireless but in
my experienced opinion, you need to fix your wiring.  Your never going
to have stable service if you don't, even if you put the DSL modem
next to the building MPOE (Median Point of Entry).  Go wireless if you
want
to but get your inside wiring fixed.

  What we do around here is have people with this kind of problem
sign up for Line-Backer insurance from the phone company, wait a few
days, then call a trouble ticket into the phone company.  (Line Backer
is a Qwest product, other phone companies have similar programs)
This covers all your inside wiring and the phone techs will come out
and fix it properly and you won't get hit with a $150 charge for
inside wiring repair.

Ted

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Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-20 Thread Bob Perry
Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. 
Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they 
made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD.

At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks 
in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL.  The options, thus far, 
are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router.   

I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will 
continue.  However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list 
to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along.  

Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for 
further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re 
hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they
relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD.

I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it.

Thanks,

Bob Perry


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Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-20 Thread Brian McCann
 FWIW, stay away from Linksys if you can help it.  I used to love
them for basic stuff, but once I wanted to do more advanced stuff like
bridging and having Client APs, i hit all kinds of problems...even
getting 2 identical APs to talk to each other.  I've gotten D-Link
every since and been happy.  I haven't tried Linksys since Cisco has
taken over and help them fix some of their products, but I don't know
that it's worth the risk.  On that note, you can also get a Cisco
solution if you have the money (separate router and AP)...but
sometimes it's just not worth it.  I just got at NewEgg, a DLink
802.11g pack with a wireless router and PCMCIA NIC, with their
Super G or whatever it's called technology, for 98 bux...something
to consider.

--Brian


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:37:07 -0500, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service.
 Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they
 made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD.
 
 At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks
 in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL.  The options, thus far,
 are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router.
 
 I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will
 continue.  However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list
 to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along.
 
 Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for
 further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re
 hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they
 relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD.
 
 I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bob Perry
 
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 I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly
 distributed.
 
 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0
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Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-20 Thread Erik Norgaard
Bob Perry wrote:
Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. 
Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they 
made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD.
Cool
At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks 
in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL.  The options, thus far, 
are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router.   
I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will 
continue.  However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list 
to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along.  

Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for 
further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re 
hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they
relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD.
OK, I need a diagram, I am having the same thoughts, my network will be 
like this:
 +-AP))
 |
INET --- ADSL-router  FBSD gw ---+-AP))
 |

My plan is to let the AP's be plain and stupid and let FBSD do the work, 
is this what you are thinking about? Really, than the AP works more like 
a switch and the FBSD gw is the router doing NAT and internat access 
control.

O'Reily has two books that might interest you, one on 802.11 security 
goes through setup for Linux Free and OpenBSD based hosts and gateways, 
the other on building wireless community networks.

The first book is far the most interesting. The other get lost in 
antennas, polarization and stuff and just doesn't cover much about how 
to extend the network beyond the reach of the first AP.

Cheers, Erik
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Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance

2005-01-20 Thread Jason Henson
On 01/20/05 15:37:07, Bob Perry wrote:
Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL  
service.

Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they
made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD.
At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks
in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL.  The options, thus
far,
are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router.
I know little about wireless routers but have started some research
and will
continue.  However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing
list
to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along.
Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material
for
further review. If you have the time, please respond with your
thoughts re
hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as
they
relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD.
I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with
it.
Thanks,
Bob Perry
I and my friends have used linksys.  I used to love them, but they are  
not good for heavy duty traffic.  My friend hosts his own website and  
runs a teamspeak server with some other small stuff.  He has gone  
through 3 or 4 routers over maybe 2-3 years, or less.  I don't know how  
other brands standup hardware wise, but I think you get what you pay  
for.  For around $60 a router, thats cheap.

When I have them I put a custum linksys/linux firmware on them and it  
becomes an almost full featured linux box.  Iirc, you can only do this  
with linksys.  Check http://sveasoft.com/ for more details on modifing  
your router.

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Problems connecting to the internet through a wireless router

2004-05-24 Thread John Murdock
I have installed FreeBSD succesfully on my Gateway M500 laptop. The only 
problem I have is that my laptop connects to the internet through a 
wireless router. My wireless card is working fine on the laptop and I 
can succesfully ping the router, but when I load up a webbrowser I get a 
Cannot find webpage error. So, it's confusing that the computer can 
connect to the router but not through the router to the internet. The 
output of ifconfig wi0 is:

wi0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet6 fe80::202:2dff:feb3:a0e%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
 inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 ether 00:02:2d:b3:0a:0e
 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
 status: associated
 ssid 1475 1:1475
 stationname FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node
 channel 6 automode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100
 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1
Everything is setup fine with DHCP. Wep is disabled on my router right 
now so the wepmode I think shouldn't matter. Any help at all will be 
greatly appreciated.

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Re: Problems connecting to the internet through a wireless router

2004-05-24 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:48:02 -0500
John Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have installed FreeBSD succesfully on my Gateway M500 laptop. The
 only problem I have is that my laptop connects to the internet through
 a wireless router. My wireless card is working fine on the laptop and
 I can succesfully ping the router, but when I load up a webbrowser I
 get a Cannot find webpage error. So, it's confusing that the
 computer can connect to the router but not through the router to the
 internet. The output of ifconfig wi0 is:
 
 wi0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   inet6 fe80::202:2dff:feb3:a0e%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
   inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xff00 broadcast
   192.168.1.255 ether 00:02:2d:b3:0a:0e
   media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
   status: associated
   ssid 1475 1:1475
   stationname FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node
   channel 6 automode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100
   wepmode OFF weptxkey 1
 
 Everything is setup fine with DHCP. Wep is disabled on my router right
 
 now so the wepmode I think shouldn't matter. Any help at all will be 
 greatly appreciated.
 
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Step 1:  Make sure that the file /etc/resolv.conf exists.  I don't think
dhclient can create the file if it's missing.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Problems connecting to the internet through a wireless router

2004-05-24 Thread phest0r
I created the /etc/resolv.conf file and now it works. Amazing how simple 
that was. Thanks!

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