Re: seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Henry Olyer wrote: I have read all about the WPA sub-system; I've also setup my /boot/loader.conf and /etc/rc.conf files, correctly. Except one small detail... ifconfig ath0 up scan never returns. And when I do a: ifconfig ath0 It tells me I don't have a carrier. Let me repeat: Then you need the entries in /etc/rc.conf to create the wlan0 interface ... wlans_ath0=wlan0 After /etc/rc.d/netif runs, that is equivalent to ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0 Then use the wlan0 interface instead of ath0: ifconfig wlan0 up scan -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system
I have read all about the WPA sub-system; I've also setup my /boot/loader.conf and /etc/rc.conf files, correctly. Except one small detail... ifconfig ath0 up scan never returns. And when I do a: ifconfig ath0 It tells me I don't have a carrier. I know the wireless router is working because this Apple sees it. So the problem is on my Presario. But the HP CQ-60 Presario is a pretty popular laptop, and the Atheros chip-set is also very widely used. So, some one has almost certainly been here before me. I think my only problem now is to get the carrier logic to respond. Of course I'd like to be able to control my wireless by pushing the light button, to turn on and off wireless access. Does any FreeBSD user have the button working? I understand it turns blue when it's up. Orange when it's not... This is a friend's email account. I am Jules Gilbert, and thank's very much -- I couldn't do this stuff by myself. --jg On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Henry Olyer wrote: I am putting up 7.2 and I am attempting to use a wireless router. How do I tell the 7.2 configurator to use my router, wirelessly? --jg I am using an Atheros chip-set, so I am not expecting trouble. I just need FBSD to see my system. I know my wireless 'name'. What do I do?? If you're using WPA, create your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: network={ ssid=myssid psk=mykey } Then you need the entries in /etc/rc.conf to create the wlan0 interface and set it up for WPA and DHCP: wlans_ath0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0=WPA DHCP If you're not using WPA, well, why not? See the Handbook for more: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system
I am putting up 7.2 and I am attempting to use a wireless router. How do I tell the 7.2 configurator to use my router, wirelessly? --jg I am using an Atheros chip-set, so I am not expecting trouble. I just need FBSD to see my system. I know my wireless 'name'. What do I do?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: seeing a wireless router when building a 7.2 system
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Henry Olyer wrote: I am putting up 7.2 and I am attempting to use a wireless router. How do I tell the 7.2 configurator to use my router, wirelessly? --jg I am using an Atheros chip-set, so I am not expecting trouble. I just need FBSD to see my system. I know my wireless 'name'. What do I do?? If you're using WPA, create your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: network={ ssid=myssid psk=mykey } Then you need the entries in /etc/rc.conf to create the wlan0 interface and set it up for WPA and DHCP: wlans_ath0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0=WPA DHCP If you're not using WPA, well, why not? See the Handbook for more: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Monday 22 December 2008 14:48:52 Corey Chandler wrote: Failing that, the Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit. Yes it is a half bad unit. If you make changes to routing or firewall rules, you need to unplug everything, power cycle it, say a prayer and hope it works. I never got it working correctly at a previous location. Over here it works, but have no need for it anymore, since a FreeBSD wireless router is doing it's job. There are many advantages of using a full-blown computer for (wireless) routing/nat/firewall, most notably the diagnostics that are available. Our FreeBSD nat is using: PPP/ADSL to provider: f...@pci0:2:8:0:class=0x02 card=0x30138086 chip=0x24498086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82559ER 82559ER Integrated 10Base-T/100Base-TX Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet Wireless: a...@pci0:2:10:0: class=0x02 card=0x7057144f chip=0x0013168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' device = 'AR5212, AR5213 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet Wire, soon to be upgraded to Gbit: x...@pci0:2:11:0:class=0x02 card=0x100010b7 chip=0x920010b7 rev=0x78 hdr=0x00 vendor = '3COM Corp, Networking Division' device = '3C905 CX-TX-M Fast EtherLink for PC Management NIC' class = network subclass = ethernet ISC dhcpd, pf including altq provide the services. Currently connected with an Intel wpi(4), mother in law a few houses down uses some linksys card on windows, daughter uses a D-Link wireless with atheros chip on Kubuntu. Currently using WEP, but that'll change when lagg(4) will support WPA on wireless interfaces or when I get tired of waiting and decide to netgraph it myself somehow. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Roger Olofsson wrote: Corey Chandler skrev: Nerius Landys wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. Good man! I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you describe. Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or you'll see some... odd breakages. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Ugh. MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular machines always inherit particular addresses. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? Absolutely. Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that. Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project! -- CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello Corey, I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part. To examplify. Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11. Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10. The problem with doing that is a lot of systems start throwing weird errors in a double NAT environment. I'd probably avoid that step and restrict wireless to its own VLAN if I were to go that route... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Mel wrote: On Monday 22 December 2008 14:48:52 Corey Chandler wrote: Failing that, the Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit. Yes it is a half bad unit. Absolutely-- if you're running out of the box firmware. I use DD-WRT or Tomato specifically to get around the issues you describe. The reason I go for the GL is that it's a more robust platform than their standard wrt-54g, which for some ungodly reason they started stripping flash and processing power out of after their switch to VxWorks. --CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:27:56 -0800 Corey Chandler li...@sequestered.net wrote: Mel wrote: On Monday 22 December 2008 14:48:52 Corey Chandler wrote: Failing that, the Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit. Yes it is a half bad unit. Absolutely-- if you're running out of the box firmware. I use DD-WRT or Tomato specifically to get around the issues you describe. The reason I go for the GL is that it's a more robust platform than their standard wrt-54g, which for some ungodly reason they started stripping flash and processing power out of after their switch to VxWorks. Probably because they realised they could get away with less memory and a slower CPU because code runs more efficiently on VxWorks vs. Linux on the same hardware. Of course it also provides fewer features than Linux, so I'd prefer a Linux-based router over VxWorks. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Corey Chandler skrev: Roger Olofsson wrote: Corey Chandler skrev: Nerius Landys wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. Good man! I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you describe. Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or you'll see some... odd breakages. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Ugh. MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular machines always inherit particular addresses. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? Absolutely. Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that. Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project! -- CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello Corey, I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part. To examplify. Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11. Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10. The problem with doing that is a lot of systems start throwing weird errors in a double NAT environment. I'd probably avoid that step and restrict wireless to its own VLAN if I were to go that route... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 2008-12-26 13:01 Hello Corey, There is no double NAT involved. /Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Saturday 27 December 2008 16:49:54 Roger Olofsson wrote: Corey Chandler skrev: Roger Olofsson wrote: Corey Chandler skrev: Nerius Landys wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. Good man! I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you describe. Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or you'll see some... odd breakages. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Ugh. MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular machines always inherit particular addresses. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? Absolutely. Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that. Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project! -- CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org --- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello Corey, I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part. To examplify. Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11. Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10. The problem with doing that is a lot of systems start throwing weird errors in a double NAT environment. I'd probably avoid that step and restrict wireless to its own VLAN if I were to go that route... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 2008-12-26 13:01 Hello Corey, There is no double NAT involved. /Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org That's correct. I have a D-link WBR-1310 here at home. Don't know if it's a bad or hip piece. I only know it was inside my budget and it does its job perfectly. Like I said on my first post to this thread, The WAN port is not used, hence no NAT inside the unit. Configured its LAN port ip with one of my LAN, plugged it to the switch, enabled WAP2 and assign a free LAN ip to any wireless device I want to allow on our home (plus the WAP key, of course).Voila, access point. IF DHCP is wanted, I can use the unit's own but since its only one laptop I assigned a static IP to it. The only NAT happens on the freebsd machine. Don't know about the reputation of the Linksys WRT54GL. The only one I've tried I borrowed from a friend and worked very nicely also. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 04:31:56PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. That's probably the easiest way. I already have. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. There are some things you could do. - Use WPA2 if available or else at least WPA [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access] - When using WPA with pre-shared keys, use long and random generated pre-shared keys. And change them often. - You can turn off the broadcasting of the SSID [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSID] to discourage casual snooping. This will not deter a determined attacker, however. - If you are using the pf(4) firewall you could use authpf(8) as an additional security measure. [http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/authpf.html] It requires users to log in via ssh(8) and alters the firewall rules as long as the ssh session exists. This requires that the user must have additional authentication in the form of passwords or ssh keys in order to use the network. It provides an additional layer of access control. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpN6XRlNFJcB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wireless router?
Nerius Landys skrev: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello again Nerius, You have understood the MAC filtering correctly. You should also encrypt the wifi traffic by using at least WPA encryption. For most wifi routers this is a checkbox and a key or a passphrase that you enter. All clients that wants access and have their MAC address in the access list will have to enter the passphrase/key on the first connect. This means that you control the MAC address list - all new wifi devices that wants to connect to your wifi LAN needs to get added to the MAC access list - manually by you. You also control the encryption passphrase - all wifi clients that wants to connect to your wifi LAN need to know the encryption passphrase. If you use WPA for encryption you will have a higher degree of security than using the old and hackable WEP. Of course both the MAC list and the encryption key/passphrase are stored in the wifi router - so if you don't set a proper password for admin access to this one - all is lost. You should disable wireless access for admin (remote management) to it - only allow cabled access and use a good strong password. Buzzwords? I dunno - I hope people on the mailing list help me out here... Is there a better/simpler way of doing this? Greetings /Roger For a good laugh ... Enjoy Jason Dixons presentations from the BSDcon on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0feature=channel_page or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMmbjJI5su0feature=channel_page ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Corey Chandler skrev: Nerius Landys wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. Good man! I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you describe. Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or you'll see some... odd breakages. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Ugh. MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular machines always inherit particular addresses. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? Absolutely. Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that. Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project! -- CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello Corey, I don't use 'bridge mode'. I set a normal LAN ip for the wifi router - as well as ips to the FreeBSD gateway and dns. This is for the LAN part of the router - then another internal LAN ip for the wifi part. To examplify. Wifi router LAN part - ip 192.168.0.20, gateway 192.168.0.1, dns 192.168.0.10 and 192.168.0.11. Wifi wifi part - network 10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.10. MAC addresses are indeed trivial to spoof - but if combined with a wifi encryption key/passphrase it adds to security. Greetings /Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Wireless router?
I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? What model should I get? I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:44 Nerius Landys wrote: I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? What model should I get? I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If you already have a wireless router, all you have to do is to turn it into an access point to your internal lan. Disable its DHCP server, assign a free LAN IP to the router LAN ethernet,plug one of its LAN ports into your switch and assign free LAN IPs to the wireless cards of your LAN machines. That's what I did here at home and works like a charm. If you need a DHCP server you have to set it up on the FreeBSD router. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Monday 22 December 2008 19:05:32 Mario Lobo wrote: On Monday 22 December 2008 18:49:44 Nerius Landys wrote: I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? What model should I get? I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If you already have a wireless router, all you have to do is to turn it into an access point to your internal lan. Disable its DHCP server, assign a free LAN IP to the router LAN ethernet,plug one of its LAN ports into your switch and assign free LAN IPs to the wireless cards of your LAN machines. That's what I did here at home and works like a charm. If you need a DHCP server you have to set it up on the FreeBSD router. Sorry for replying to myself but it needed a correction. You CAN use the wireless router as your DHCP server!. Just assign a range from your LAN's IPs. The WAN port won't matter. It won't be used. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Nerius Landys wrote: I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? What model should I get? Yes, a supported Wireless net card would suffice. It can be configured to work in Access Point mode, essentially what a cheap wireless router would. Instructions in section 32.3.5 here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html While I haven't used FreeBSD in this mode, from my experience atheros-based (ath(4)) cards work well. I have no less than three Dlink DWL-G520 cards and never had any problems. This is a rather older model now, newer atheros cards may need a newer HAL than the one currently in the source tree (e.g. the Aspire One uses a newer atheros, and needs a custom kernel with some of the original files replaced. I believe -CURRENT has the newer HAL though). I recently also got a Linksys WMP 54G that is based on a Ralink chipset (ral(4)). This also works nicely. I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Sure. I am using static IPs in all my wireless clients. Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). Configuring a DHCP server is very easy. I've only used it with wired ethernet though. Have a read at this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-dhcp.html Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? I've used something similar and it worked. Don't know about possible drawbacks, cause it was only a toy for me. My setup was something like this: Wireless standalone router (built in NAT) -- FreeBSD system as wireless client of the router + wired ethernet card -- FreeBSD NAT using pf / ipfw -- Wired internal ethernet (with DHCP server) -- Wired client(s) So I guess your approach is also possible. So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Probably multiple solutions exist, start up by buying a cheap but supported wireless card. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:49:44PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? Yes. What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? Wireless card. The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? Yes What model should I get? Now that's the tricky bit. If you look at the wlan(4) manual page, you will see the supported wireless chipset in the SEE ALSO section. The trick is knowing which chipset a certain card has. It is usually _not_ listed on the box or on the manufacturer's website, because it comes with windoze drivers so most of the users don't give a damn about the chipset. And some manufacturers put different chipsets in different batches of the same card depending on what they can get their hands on. If you see a card that you like and you cannot get the name and type of chipset used, download the windows driver. It will come with an in information file (.inf) that usually contains the name and type of the chipset. I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). You could use the wlan_acl module to grant access based on the MAC address. But it might be better to do it somewhat more sophisticated and run hostapd(8). Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? It's probably easier. But you'll have to be on the lookout for vulnerabilities in the router software. When I got a wireless card for my desktop, the idea was to make a wireless conncetion to my laptop. But you have to set up hostapd on the access point, and wpa_supplicant on the laptop. And the manual pages in question don't give an overview of the process, and neither does the handbook. The section of the handbook dealing with wireless networks is outdated and in need of expert attention. Unfortunately I didn't get far enough to be that expert. In the end it was much easier and faster for me to just plug a cross-cable into the laptop from the desktop. (fast=nice when you're running rsync(1) or if you're transferring dumps via nc(1)) Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpr6YmGn2WIN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wireless router?
Nerius Landys skrev: I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? What model should I get? I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello Nerius, I simply bought a standard wireless router, turned off all services in it except the access list and plugged it in the LAN. The access list filters on mac addresses and that level of security is fine where I live. The wireless router does have firewall, dhcp, port triggering and such but I disabled all of those since my FreeBSDs do all of that already. The wireless router has one port for internet and four ports as a normal switch, I don't use the internet port. I just plug in the ethernet cable in the switch part as uplink. I considered having a wifi nic as accesspoint in the FreeBSD main router, however, it was better for me to be able to place the wifi router for optimal range of the wifi. Turned out that the centre point for wifi is not the same as where the main router is Greetings /Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Nerius Landys nlan...@gmail.com wrote: snip So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. If you have another PCI slot available in your router, one of these should work: http://www.provantage.com/scripts/search.dll?QUERY=pci+802.11gSubmit.x=0Submit.y=0 HTH, Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Roger Olofsson wrote: Nerius Landys skrev: I have a PC with FreeBSD set up as a router (NAT). The PC has several network cards and I'm grouping the internal-facing network cards as a bridge (promiscuous mode for the interfaces). Everything works well. Now I'd like to extend my wired network to include wireless. I really have no experience with wireless networks. I have a couple of computers that are wireless-ready (a laptop and a Playstation 3 that I won in a raffle). Is it possible to somehow add some hardware to my FreeBSD router PC to make it into a wireless router? What kind of hardware would I install? What is it called? The PC only has PCI slots, can you recommend a brand and model of wireless server equiptment if such a thing exists? Would a normal wireless card suffice? What model should I get? I would prefer to set up static internal IPs for my wireless network at home, would this be possible? Or is DHCP the way to go (I hesitate at the thought of configuring a DHCP server). Another way to go is to hook up a standalone wireless router appliance to my FreeBSD machine's network interface (one of the interfaces). I already have such a device, I think it's made by Linksys. But then, I would be NAT'ing both through the FreeBSD machine and through the wireless router. So it would be a double-NAT so to speak. Is there anything wrong with that approach? So in a nutshell, I have a wired FreeBSD router with multiple ethernet jacks at home, and I want to extend it to include wireless network. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 2008-12-22 11:23 Hello Nerius, I simply bought a standard wireless router, turned off all services in it except the access list and plugged it in the LAN. The access list filters on mac addresses and that level of security is fine where I live. The wireless router does have firewall, dhcp, port triggering and such but I disabled all of those since my FreeBSDs do all of that already. The wireless router has one port for internet and four ports as a normal switch, I don't use the internet port. I just plug in the ethernet cable in the switch part as uplink. I considered having a wifi nic as accesspoint in the FreeBSD main router, however, it was better for me to be able to place the wifi router for optimal range of the wifi. Turned out that the centre point for wifi is not the same as where the main router is Greetings /Roger This is definitely the route I'd go. I'm a BIG fan of the Buffalo wireless access points if they've re-entered the channel near you (a patent troll prevented their sale for the last 18 months, but that court case was just overturned), as they support DD-WRT. Failing that, the Linksys WRT54GL isn't a half bad unit. Custom firmware (dd-wrt, OpenWRT, Tomato) also give you a lot finer grained control over what happens on the AP. -- CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless router?
Nerius Landys wrote: Thank you all for your suggestions. This will be a project for me over the holidays. I decided to go the standalone wireless router approach. Good man! I will need to figure out how to configure my standalone wireless router to pass everything through to the internal LAN that I already have. It's called Bridge mode on most APs-- it does exactly what you describe. Just make sure things like DHCP server are turned off or you'll see some... odd breakages. Also I don't know too much about security, like how to prevent eavesdroppers from connecting to my internal network. One of you mentioned access lists, and I assume that means I tell the wireless router which MAC addresses it accepts, and nothing else. Ugh. MAC addresses are trivial to spoof-- I usually don't bother with using them for security, although I do use 'em to ensure that particular machines always inherit particular addresses. Is there any other way to provide security? Like a password-protected network? What are the buzzwords for these security schemes? Which security scheme do you recommend for preventing random people within proximity from connecting to my internal netowrk? Absolutely. Google for WPA or WPA2; WEP has been broken and is trivial to bruteforce, so I'd not bother with that. Once you get the unit in, feel free to email me off list for configuration questions; it sounds like a fun project! -- CJC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Secure Wireless Router using FreeBSD ...
Taking this to questions@, since it feels like a more appropriate place than [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 19 October 2007 08:27:02 Marc G. Fournier wrote: Within my Linksys, I can restrict wireless to MAC addresses, as well as using stuff like WPA ... quick search on google, and I found: http://www.howtoforge.com/setting_up_a_freebsd_wlan_access_point Which talks about setting up a WPA based wireless network ... but, some way of doing MAC based restrictions as well? I'm suspecting that I can using pf, deny all MAC then allow specific ones ... No, you can't do MAC address based filtering with pf, I think other BSDs can tag frames with particular MAC addresses using if_bridge and then create filtering rules based on tags. But, it's even easier, you can do it with ifconfig when you operate as an AP. Search the ifconfig manual for mac: It can be argued that MAC address filtering enhances security. What I would like to find, if it exists, is an application that I can run on FreeBSD so that there is a user friendly interface to this, vs having someone have to muddle with flat files and reload rules ... Now, I just found 'Chillispot' in ports ... has anyone used this? Is there something else that is better that runs under FreeBSD? Pfsense is FreeBSD based and very user friendly. But it's not something you run on FreeBSD, it's a specialized version of FreeBSD. That said, you *can* ssh to pfsense and control it almost as it were a FreeBSD box. Perhaps you should give it a try, there is a live CD version. HTH Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router
If you have a wireless-AP you can hook that directly into a standard PCI nic on the BSD machine. I have a similar setup where I'm at. I'm letting the BSD do dhcp/firewall/nat/router/dns for each of my LANs. The AP is doing WEP but for added security I have an encrypted VPN for the wireless LAN with the BSD box doing IPSec for that. I combined 2 how-to's I found online. Here are the URLs if you want to take a look. http://www.freebsddiary.org/ipsec-wireless.php http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200401/wifi-ipsec.html Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rizazoe Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:37 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router I'm newbie and I'm trying to set up a test network than isn't connected to Internet on FreeBSD 4.7 I was wondering if it is possible to set up my FreeBSD 4.7 as a authentication server for 802.1x security using D-Link 624 Wireless Router. 1 more stupid question do I need a wireless NIC for the FreeBSD box? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router
Yes it's very possible. :-) You may want to check out FreeRadius (http://www.freeradius.org/). It is a free radius server which is what I think you are looking for. I will state that you need to take some time to read up on this a little bit as it can be irritating to set up a radius server if you are not familiar with all the settings. I did this for my D-link AP for fun then went back to wep for reasons I don't remember. Ohh, FreeRadius has a port, so you can start there. :-) It's a popular radius server for *nix. A medium-sized datacenter I worked at used it for all communications gear and dial-up access. Anyways, good luck sir. Dustin On Feb 15, 2005, at 11:36 PM, rizazoe wrote: I'm newbie and I'm trying to set up a test network than isn't connected to Internet on FreeBSD 4.7 I was wondering if it is possible to set up my FreeBSD 4.7 as a authentication server for 802.1x security using D-Link 624 Wireless Router. 1 more stupid question do I need a wireless NIC for the FreeBSD box? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting upFreeBSD with D-Link Wireless Router
I'm newbie and I'm trying to set up a test network than isn't connected to Internet on FreeBSD 4.7 I was wondering if it is possible to set up my FreeBSD 4.7 as a authentication server for 802.1x security using D-Link 624 Wireless Router. 1 more stupid question do I need a wireless NIC for the FreeBSD box? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Perry Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:33 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance Ted, What linebacker did you have in mind? Bob, who is your telephone company? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
On (01/21/05 22:41), Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:41:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Perry Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:37 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. Hi Bob, I see a lot of people are telling you to install wireless but in my experienced opinion, you need to fix your wiring. Your never going to have stable service if you don't, even if you put the DSL modem next to the building MPOE (Median Point of Entry). Go wireless if you want to but get your inside wiring fixed. What we do around here is have people with this kind of problem sign up for Line-Backer insurance from the phone company, wait a few days, then call a trouble ticket into the phone company. (Line Backer is a Qwest product, other phone companies have similar programs) This covers all your inside wiring and the phone techs will come out and fix it properly and you won't get hit with a $150 charge for inside wiring repair. Want to thank everyone for their input. The project remains open because the one phone jack which was providing a steady connection is no longer cooperating. In this instance, it looks like the hot ticket is to get a stable connection first. But again I want to thank everyone for sharing their personal experiences and providing some valuable information. Ted, What linebacker did you have in mind? Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Perry Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:37 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. Hi Bob, I see a lot of people are telling you to install wireless but in my experienced opinion, you need to fix your wiring. Your never going to have stable service if you don't, even if you put the DSL modem next to the building MPOE (Median Point of Entry). Go wireless if you want to but get your inside wiring fixed. What we do around here is have people with this kind of problem sign up for Line-Backer insurance from the phone company, wait a few days, then call a trouble ticket into the phone company. (Line Backer is a Qwest product, other phone companies have similar programs) This covers all your inside wiring and the phone techs will come out and fix it properly and you won't get hit with a $150 charge for inside wiring repair. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it. Thanks, Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
FWIW, stay away from Linksys if you can help it. I used to love them for basic stuff, but once I wanted to do more advanced stuff like bridging and having Client APs, i hit all kinds of problems...even getting 2 identical APs to talk to each other. I've gotten D-Link every since and been happy. I haven't tried Linksys since Cisco has taken over and help them fix some of their products, but I don't know that it's worth the risk. On that note, you can also get a Cisco solution if you have the money (separate router and AP)...but sometimes it's just not worth it. I just got at NewEgg, a DLink 802.11g pack with a wireless router and PCMCIA NIC, with their Super G or whatever it's called technology, for 98 bux...something to consider. --Brian On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:37:07 -0500, Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it. Thanks, Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
Bob Perry wrote: Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. Cool At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. OK, I need a diagram, I am having the same thoughts, my network will be like this: +-AP)) | INET --- ADSL-router FBSD gw ---+-AP)) | My plan is to let the AP's be plain and stupid and let FBSD do the work, is this what you are thinking about? Really, than the AP works more like a switch and the FBSD gw is the router doing NAT and internat access control. O'Reily has two books that might interest you, one on 802.11 security goes through setup for Linux Free and OpenBSD based hosts and gateways, the other on building wireless community networks. The first book is far the most interesting. The other get lost in antennas, polarization and stuff and just doesn't cover much about how to extend the network beyond the reach of the first AP. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
On 01/20/05 15:37:07, Bob Perry wrote: Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it. Thanks, Bob Perry I and my friends have used linksys. I used to love them, but they are not good for heavy duty traffic. My friend hosts his own website and runs a teamspeak server with some other small stuff. He has gone through 3 or 4 routers over maybe 2-3 years, or less. I don't know how other brands standup hardware wise, but I think you get what you pay for. For around $60 a router, thats cheap. When I have them I put a custum linksys/linux firmware on them and it becomes an almost full featured linux box. Iirc, you can only do this with linksys. Check http://sveasoft.com/ for more details on modifing your router. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems connecting to the internet through a wireless router
I have installed FreeBSD succesfully on my Gateway M500 laptop. The only problem I have is that my laptop connects to the internet through a wireless router. My wireless card is working fine on the laptop and I can succesfully ping the router, but when I load up a webbrowser I get a Cannot find webpage error. So, it's confusing that the computer can connect to the router but not through the router to the internet. The output of ifconfig wi0 is: wi0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::202:2dff:feb3:a0e%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:02:2d:b3:0a:0e media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) status: associated ssid 1475 1:1475 stationname FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node channel 6 automode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 Everything is setup fine with DHCP. Wep is disabled on my router right now so the wepmode I think shouldn't matter. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems connecting to the internet through a wireless router
On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:48:02 -0500 John Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed FreeBSD succesfully on my Gateway M500 laptop. The only problem I have is that my laptop connects to the internet through a wireless router. My wireless card is working fine on the laptop and I can succesfully ping the router, but when I load up a webbrowser I get a Cannot find webpage error. So, it's confusing that the computer can connect to the router but not through the router to the internet. The output of ifconfig wi0 is: wi0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::202:2dff:feb3:a0e%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:02:2d:b3:0a:0e media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) status: associated ssid 1475 1:1475 stationname FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node channel 6 automode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 Everything is setup fine with DHCP. Wep is disabled on my router right now so the wepmode I think shouldn't matter. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Step 1: Make sure that the file /etc/resolv.conf exists. I don't think dhclient can create the file if it's missing. Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems connecting to the internet through a wireless router
I created the /etc/resolv.conf file and now it works. Amazing how simple that was. Thanks! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]