Re: Word processor for 6.1
- Original Message - From: Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 On 9/5/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. It is less a matter of want to introduce to Unix than want to avoid Windoze :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS normally on DVD ... If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. Yes Panther is OS X: Mac OS X v10.0 (Cheetah) Mac OS X v10.1 (Puma) Mac OS X v10.2 (Jaguar) Mac OS X v10.3 (Panther) Mac OS X v10.4 (Tiger) Mac OS X v10.5 (Leopard) (Yet to be released) NeoOffice2 (NeoOffice is OpenOffice 2.x with a native mac front-end) requires Panther or better. Personally I would not buy anything less then Sawtooth G4 PowerMac. You should be able to buy a fully equipped sawtooth model on eBay for less then $250. I disagree. You can buy a Power Mac G3 for under $80 and buy a new IDE hard disk for it and run Panther on it and it will run all the stuff you want. And the seller will probably include a pirated version of Panther if you ask or even the actual install disks. Why line the pockets of some Macophile on Ebay who thinks his old junk is worth more than $100. The best bang for your buck would be a new refurbished Intel Mac mini for $519. Baloney. You can get a -brand new- mini mac for $30 more: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=942793 why mess around with some refurbished mac? A used G4 Mac mini in the $300~$400 range would also be good bed because all mini's have USB 2.0, it's very easy to expand them using external drives. No it would not because the hard disk is going to be used and if it does not crap out in a year it's going to be dog-slow. If your going to go cheap - get the absolute minimum you can find for the cheapest price. Otherwise, get brand new. Trying to mess around with a price-point somewhere between new and dog-cheap is just going to waste your money. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
If you installed programs from packages when you installed the system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start again. This takes time but given that 6.2 is coming up. It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! Not hardly. It doesn't even come close to it. There's likely more involved than is immediately apparent, but my take on it is that, out of a 4-CD set, I'd be using only a small portion of the first -- and none of the others -- if I backed out to what sounds like a minimal install and then built everything from online Ports. I was planning to install a STABLE release and stay with it, as mentioned on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/decision-points.html rather than get on the cvsup treadmill. ... I would also like to point out that when you ask for help on questions@ and someone asks you a question, if you have the information it should be given, even if it was already posted on another list. I'm pretty sure that most of us don't follow all of the possible lists. So, even if I did follow the gnome list, if you said something is already posted there, that's too bad, I'm not about to do a lot of extra work trying to help you out. That's time I can put to better use working on my own equipment, or helping someone who will work with me to help them. My intent was to avoid cluttering the questions@ archives with a rather large post that would add very little value, being a duplicate of one that is already in another list's archives: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?10609020201.AA11586 Sorry if this was not clear. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. It is less a matter of want to introduce to Unix than want to avoid Windoze :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS normally on DVD ... If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Perry Hutchison wrote: Looking at that post it seems something failed when you tried to update your ports collection. I suspect the blunder was in trying to update Ports at all, given it is a new 6.1 CD install and nothing *else* is updated. The Handbook suggests to always update Ports before trying to fetch/build anything, but that does not seem to have worked out very well in this case. The catch-22 is that you need to install cvsup from ports to update ports - but that has been solved, the head of RELENG_6 has csup as replacement in base, it will no longer be necessary to install cvsup. I'd suggest you delete it (keep distfiles though so you won't have to fetch again), unpack again the ports.tgz, then install cvsup and update the ports collection using that. I hesitate to get onto the cvsup treadmill -- from reading the website, tracking CURRENT did not sound like my desired usage model. I suspect what I really need is to have the entire Ports mechanism, including any downloaded distfiles, frozen as of 6.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the Handbook does not seem to cover that situation, at least in the Ports section. I think this relies on a misunderstanding on how cvsup works and the distinction between ports and base. In your sup-file you specify the tag you want to checkout. In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. Ports has its own life, since third party apps are not developed in sync with the release schedule it does not make much sense to freeze at a particular release. Anyway, you can do it as with the base system setting the cvsup tag in the ports-supfile. The situation you wanted compares to not updating the ports collection at all. If you installed programs from packages when you installed the system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start again. This takes time but given that 6.2 is coming up. It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! While FBSD try to stick to POLA, you can't expect this to be the case for third party apps. Updating will sometimes break things, and sooner or later you will find conflicts adding up, and these conflicts occur when you have apps from different snapshots trying to coexist. Evidently, when the next release is coming up soon, one can assume that a lot of changes have been committed so installing a minimal system and updating everything should be considered while the system is still not in production. This will also ease the transition to RELENG_6_2. It does not defeat the purpose of installing from CD, you need to get the minimal system installed first. I wonder if I ought to wipe the partitions and start completely over with a fresh install, and this time *don't* try to update the Ports. If your system is otherwise clean and not in production, this may be the faster route (although unnecessary, and you won't learn as much about how to maintain the system). Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:35, Erik Norgaard wrote: In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. I do wish people wouldn't give inexperienced users the impresssion that running 6-stable (RELENG_6 ) is the norm - this is a development branch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On 9/5/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. It is less a matter of want to introduce to Unix than want to avoid Windoze :) and yes, a Mac with OS X would be fine. (My college sophomore is doing just fine with a one-year-old iBook.) Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS normally on DVD ... If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. Is Panther an earlier MacOS X (thus still marginally on-topic here :) or it MacOS 9? I have actually got an old PowerMAC (603-based) which AFAIK won't run anything newer than 9. Yes Panther is OS X: Mac OS X v10.0 (Cheetah) Mac OS X v10.1 (Puma) Mac OS X v10.2 (Jaguar) Mac OS X v10.3 (Panther) Mac OS X v10.4 (Tiger) Mac OS X v10.5 (Leopard) (Yet to be released) NeoOffice2 (NeoOffice is OpenOffice 2.x with a native mac front-end) requires Panther or better. Personally I would not buy anything less then Sawtooth G4 PowerMac. You should be able to buy a fully equipped sawtooth model on eBay for less then $250. The best bang for your buck would be a new refurbished Intel Mac mini for $519. This unit should take your child all the way through high school and then some, you can find it on Apple's refurb page here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/2.RSLID?mco=D8593B5Anclm=CertifiedMac A used G4 Mac mini in the $300~$400 range would also be good bed because all mini's have USB 2.0, it's very easy to expand them using external drives. Also: http://www.lowendmac.com/mini/minis.html http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g4saw.shtml http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On 9/5/06, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:35, Erik Norgaard wrote: In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. I do wish people wouldn't give inexperienced users the impresssion that running 6-stable (RELENG_6 ) is the norm - this is a development branch. Unfortunately it does feel like the norm. My servers are running 6-STABLE because the hardware is not fully supported in 6.1-RELEASE. I had the same problems when 6.0-RELEASE was rolled out. Maybe we should cut 6.2 early? that or time are release dates so they match up with Intel's chipset release dates. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
RW wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 09:35, Erik Norgaard wrote: In the standard-supfile for the base system you'd specify RELENG_6 which means you'll get head of -STABLE, or if you are conservative RELENG_6_1 which means that you'll just get security patches to the 6.1 release. I do wish people wouldn't give inexperienced users the impresssion that running 6-stable (RELENG_6 ) is the norm - this is a development branch. I don't try to give any indication of what is the norm. I mention two options, none of which would mean a switch onto the -CURRENT branch which was the principal concern in OP. Further, the OP was really concerned with ports, and I do make an effort both to explain how stay on a particular branch and why the tagging is on the ports collection is not the same as the base system - hence the shift -RELEASE/-STABLE/-CURRENT is not a big difference. I personally run RELENG_6_1 on my servers and RELENG_6 on my laptops, while using HEAD of the ports collection on both - and everything is quite /STABLE/ :) I'd recommend you follow the norm that works for you, and define one if it has yet to be defined. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Nikolas Britton writes: On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: Please be more careful about advice you give that is really opinion. Although the MAC may be a good choice, FreeBSD with Openoffice might well meet the need for that person. By the way, Openoffice does work nicely on FreeBSD 6.1 and Gnome is not needed for it at all. Gnome is irrelevant to Openoccife. To build Openoffice from ports you do have to go to the Sun site and download the jde stuff and sign up for their free license since Sun does not allow FreeBSD to put that in an automatic install setup like ports. But, that is easy and works just fine. jerry jerry PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. http://www.lowendmac.com/ http://computers.attr-search.ebay.com/Gigabit_Apple-Desktops_PowerPC-G4_W0 QQa10244ZQ2d24QQa12ZQ2d24QQa25710ZQ2d24QQa26092ZQ2d24QQa26443Z42211QQa2644 4ZQ2d24QQalistZa26092Q2ca26443Q2ca26444Q2ca25710Q2ca12Q2ca10244QQcatrefZC6 QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQ fromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQftsZ2QQgcsZ1506QQpfZShowQ20Items QQpf_queryZGigabitQQpfidZ1812QQpfmodeZ1QQsacatZ25440QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d 1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZpf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On 9/5/06, Jerold McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton writes: On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: Please be more careful about advice you give that is really opinion. You completely missed the point, you of all people should know exactly what I'm talking about: http://acns.msu.edu/organization/academic/information_systems/ So close to the kids and yet completely out of touch with their needs. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
By the way, Openoffice does work nicely on FreeBSD 6.1 and Gnome is not needed for it at all. Gnome is irrelevant to Openoccife. The Ports build of OpenOffice seems to require glib, which seems to be maintained by the gnome folks even if it is not, strictly speaking, part of gnome. If there is a build-time option to use something else instead, it would be nice for the choice to come up on one of those blue option screens when building the port. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Perry Hutchison writes: By the way, Openoffice does work nicely on FreeBSD 6.1 and Gnome is not needed for it at all. Gnome is irrelevant to Openoccife. The Ports build of OpenOffice seems to require glib, which seems to be maintained by the gnome folks even if it is not, strictly speaking, part of gnome. If there is a build-time option to use something else instead, it would be nice for the choice to come up on one of those blue option screens when building the port. I had no problem building Openoffice 2.xxx from ports. The glib stuff just flew right on by with no problem. All I had to do extra was to get the jde stuff from Sun and click on the yes box for the license during the registration. This was all under FreeBSD 6.1, though OpenOffice was not the first port I installed, so it is possible some other, earlier installed, port caused needed things to be built, though it didn't look like it. It even took a little less time than I had expected based on horror stories I had read. But, it did take a lot of time and disk space to build it. I have also installed OpenOffice using one of those prebuilt binaries as has been suggested by some other folk and that worked fine on some earlier versions of FreeBSD. I haven't had any trouble using OpenOffice other than the usual annoyances that come from any piece of software that wants to do your thinking for you. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Nikolas Britton writes: On 9/5/06, Jerold McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton writes: On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: Please be more careful about advice you give that is really opinion. You completely missed the point, you of all people should know exactly what I'm talking about: I kind of wonder who missed whose point. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The poster asked for a Word Processor to use on FreeBSD 6.1 and not for an opinionated lecture on which OS to use for kids. http://acns.msu.edu/organization/academic/information_systems/ So close to the kids and yet completely out of touch with their needs. You might be surprised. jerry -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Word processor for 6.1
Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. richtext builds OK, but as soon as I try to select bold it writes 4 lines to stderr and drops core: Message backtrace: bold bold OutOfBounds: offset 0, size 0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Perry Hutchison wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. There is a commercial program, textmaker (www.softmaker.com), which I have found much better than Abiword in handling word documents, but I doubt it supports OpenDocument. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On Monday 04 September 2006 02:08, Perry Hutchison wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. richtext builds OK, but as soon as I try to select bold it writes 4 lines to stderr and drops core: Message backtrace: bold bold OutOfBounds: offset 0, size 0 ___ You can go to http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ and download openoffice2.0.3 pre-built binaries from there. I would suggest that, rather than trying to build it. You're probably going to need java. I suggest getting the pre-built binary for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.00, you can get it here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. Both of them (and also Dia) require Glib, which won't build for me. I posted details of the failure to freebsd-gnome a day or two ago. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? ... You can go to http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ and download openoffice2.0.3 pre-built binaries from there. I would suggest that, rather than trying to build it. Thanks for the pointer. That is the sort of thing I was hoping for. You're probably going to need java. I suggest getting the pre-built binary for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.00, you can get it here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml The diablo port appeared to build OK as a dependency :) but I should probably d/l this one also just in case. Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. So it would seem :( I thought the whole point of the Ports Collection was to avoid this sort of problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On Monday 04 September 2006 22:55, Perry Hutchison wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? ... You can go to http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ and download openoffice2.0.3 pre-built binaries from there. I would suggest that, rather than trying to build it. Thanks for the pointer. That is the sort of thing I was hoping for. You're probably going to need java. I suggest getting the pre-built binary for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.00, you can get it here: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml The diablo port appeared to build OK as a dependency :) but I should probably d/l this one also just in case. Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. So it would seem :( I thought the whole point of the Ports Collection was to avoid this sort of problem. I find it's a reasonably reliable build these days. And once it's installed it doesn't really matter all that much if the occasional build fails, since you still have the previous version installed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On Monday 04 September 2006 13:55, Perry Hutchison wrote: Try to save yourself as much pain as possible. Building openoffice from ports tends to fall in the category of pain. So it would seem :( I thought the whole point of the Ports Collection was to avoid this sort of problem. That's the idea, and in most cases that's true. The ports system just keeps getting better and better. However,there are some ports that are just a pain to build and install. Either they can be tricky to do, they take a really long time, or both. OpenOffice falls in there. I'll avoid building it and use a pre-built package. After you install it, you'll find that it shows up for an update because two lines were swapped in the Makefile. Since I don't care to accidentally be rebuilding openoffice because of this, I have +IGNOREME in /var/db/pkg/en-openoffice.org-US-2.0.3, it doesn't show up as needing an upgrade. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On 9/4/06, Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry Hutchison wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. There is a commercial program, textmaker (www.softmaker.com), which I have found much better than Abiword in handling word documents, but I doubt it supports OpenDocument. I'll second the nomination for TextMaker. It works quite well. I run it under Linux emulation. I believe the next version will have support for OpenOffice documents. IIRC, if you buy the current version, then you can upgrade to the 2006 version for free. -- Kind regards, Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. richtext builds OK, but as soon as I try to select bold it writes 4 lines to stderr and drops core: Message backtrace: bold bold OutOfBounds: offset 0, size 0 ___ KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. What's in your /etc/make.conf file and what part of gnome won't build? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Perry Hutchison wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. Both of them (and also Dia) require Glib, which won't build for me. I posted details of the failure to freebsd-gnome a day or two ago. Looking at that post it seems something failed when you tried to update your ports collection. I'd suggest you delete it (keep distfiles though so you won't have to fetch again), unpack again the ports.tgz, then install cvsup and update the ports collection using that. If you installed programs from packages when you installed the system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start again. This takes time but given that 6.2 is coming up. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. What's in your /etc/make.conf file # added by use.perl 2006-08-22 20:05:56 PERL_VER=5.8.8 PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 what part of gnome won't build? Details are on freebsd-gnome. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. What do you mean: which won't build? No problems here - I recently compiled both. They don't require the full gnome package. Both of them (and also Dia) require Glib, which won't build for me. I posted details of the failure to freebsd-gnome a day or two ago. Looking at that post it seems something failed when you tried to update your ports collection. I suspect the blunder was in trying to update Ports at all, given it is a new 6.1 CD install and nothing *else* is updated. The Handbook suggests to always update Ports before trying to fetch/build anything, but that does not seem to have worked out very well in this case. I'd suggest you delete it (keep distfiles though so you won't have to fetch again), unpack again the ports.tgz, then install cvsup and update the ports collection using that. I hesitate to get onto the cvsup treadmill -- from reading the website, tracking CURRENT did not sound like my desired usage model. I suspect what I really need is to have the entire Ports mechanism, including any downloaded distfiles, frozen as of 6.1-RELEASE. Unfortunately, the Handbook does not seem to cover that situation, at least in the Ports section. If you installed programs from packages when you installed the system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start again. This takes time but given that 6.2 is coming up. It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! I wonder if I ought to wipe the partitions and start completely over with a fresh install, and this time *don't* try to update the Ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
If you installed programs from packages when you installed the system, you may get problems with version conflicts installing from an updated ports collection - this happens usually when the last release is getting old. In that case, maybe you should clean out the system, deinstall all packages, update ports and start again. This takes time but given that 6.2 is coming up. It would also thoroughly defeat the purpose of installing from CD! Not hardly. It doesn't even come close to it. I wonder if I ought to wipe the partitions and start completely over with a fresh install, and this time *don't* try to update the Ports. This is a decision you have to make for yourself. I personally think it to be a very unwise choice and one I would never consider, but then... I would also like to point out that when you ask for help on questions@ and someone asks you a question, if you have the information it should be given, even if it was already posted on another list. I'm pretty sure that most of us don't follow all of the possible lists. So, even if I did follow the gnome list, if you said something is already posted there, that's too bad, I'm not about to do a lot of extra work trying to help you out. That's time I can put to better use working on my own equipment, or helping someone who will work with me to help them. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. http://www.lowendmac.com/ http://computers.attr-search.ebay.com/Gigabit_Apple-Desktops_PowerPC-G4_W0QQa10244ZQ2d24QQa12ZQ2d24QQa25710ZQ2d24QQa26092ZQ2d24QQa26443Z42211QQa26444ZQ2d24QQalistZa26092Q2ca26443Q2ca26444Q2ca25710Q2ca12Q2ca10244QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPostalQQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQftsZ2QQgcsZ1506QQpfZShowQ20ItemsQQpf_queryZGigabitQQpfidZ1812QQpfmodeZ1QQsacatZ25440QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZpf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word processor for 6.1
- Original Message - From: Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Word processor for 6.1 On 9/4/06, Perry Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can find a working word processor for 6.1? AbiWord and OpenOffice both require Gnome, which won't build. ... KOffice 1.5 has OpenDocument support. Not that I'm any more eager to get into a KDE mess than a Gnome mess :) File format support is not important. I just need something for my 9th-grader to use for school papers. FreeBSD and Linux will not meet your teenagers needs, If you really want to introduce your kid to UNIX then buy a Mac... trust me on this... I interact with many high school and college kids on a daily basis. Any used Mac capable of running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and NeoOffice2 will suit your childs needs perfectly: PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor. Built-in FireWire. 384 MB of memory. 5 GB of disk space. Just keep in mind when you look for used Mac's that the Tiger OS normally on DVD. There was a trade-in program where you could get CD's of it if you sent in your DVDs - I did - but some of the older Macs out there that have firewire ports only have CD drives. Also, any older Mac you find will need ram - Tiger gobbles it. If you can find an older copy of Panther OS it gives you lot more lattitude in what older Macs will work - it also does not require FireWire, so even the original iMacs will run it. You can compile most text-mode open source applications on Panther and Tiger, but if you want to compile X programs your better off with Tiger. Frankly, if we had the money at my employer I would probably use rack-mounted Mac servers and Tiger as a platform to run many of the server applications. But a new Mac server is stratospherically expensive compared to a basic HP DL320 running FreeBSD. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
