Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 09:53:12AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, but what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems that everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working with Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be done from a command line). Ethereal vs. tcpdump. This is the biggest reason why I have X libraries on my firewall. I don't actually run an X server on it or even have a screen on it, but I forward X11 over ssh to the client I'm working on. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 pgprC4BusCk5Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
On Feb 13, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ean Kingston wrote: On February 13, 2005 03:53 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, but what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems that everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working with Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be done from a command line). I run an XLoad app on every server with the display on my desktop (set to update once a minute. It lets me keep an eye on the general health of the servers during the day. Asside from that I haven't found a truely useful GUI app for servers. I don't know if this counts at all (especially since it's not FBSD), and I'm loathe to say positive things about NetWare, but I remember reading their Snakes screensaver was actually a load meter...the bigger the load on the server, the longer the tales on the snakes and the faster they moved on the screen. -Bart ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
On Feb 13, 2005, at 1:30 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: They exist. A friend of mine had one running on w2000 several years ago logging into hi BSD and Linux boxes using xterm. It worked reasonably well. How much did he pay for it? I don't know which one he used. Sorry. Many of the ones I saw cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, and there was still no guarantee that they'd work well. The few free ones I tried did not work well at all. I'm still interested in learning more, though. However, I won't run x-anything on my FreeBSD system unless it will run without destabilizing changes to the OS (no change in securelevel, no kernel reconfiguration, no special system software modules or daemons). You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. Chad ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, but what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems that everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working with Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be done from a command line). -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
On February 13, 2005 03:53 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, but what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems that everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working with Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be done from a command line). I run an XLoad app on every server with the display on my desktop (set to update once a minute. It lets me keep an eye on the general health of the servers during the day. Asside from that I haven't found a truely useful GUI app for servers. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X on a server Re: Freebsd vs. linux
On Feb 13, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Ean Kingston wrote: On February 13, 2005 03:53 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: You can install the X libraries and client apps on your server -- this works fine at secure level 3 and does not require kernel configurations changes or special daemons or anything. What it allows you to do is then link software against the X libraries and then redirect the display to your workstations X server. This meets your criteria and can be handy for certain things. Your apps still run in userland only and there is no HW touching stuff. You are not running the X Server on your FBSD Server machine. I'll consider it, although it still sounds complicated. What do I gain from X that I don't already have with remote terminal sessions like those created with SecureCRT? I know it looks pretty, but what server-related things can I do with X that I cannot do with ordinary terminals? I'm not aware of anything right now; it seems that everything can be done from a command line (thank goodness--working with Windows is a nightmare precisely _because_ so many things cannot be done from a command line). I run an XLoad app on every server with the display on my desktop (set to update once a minute. It lets me keep an eye on the general health of the servers during the day. Asside from that I haven't found a truely useful GUI app for servers. I had some java based ecommerce stuff for a server that had an installer that was a GUI, for example. Chad ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
