Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-27 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 13 September 2004 05:54 pm, Joshua Tinnin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 13 September 2004 07:09 am, John DeStefano
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You might also try disabling ACPI; I have the same board and this
> > worked for me.  Of course, getting the other onboard stuff to work
> > properly has been a whole different challenge
> > ~John
>
> Speaking of which, do you know which specific sound driver should be
> enabled in the kernel? I have:
>
> device  sound
> device  snd_sbc
>
> Which doesn't work. However, in 5.2.1 this worked (which is no longer
> applicable in 5.3):
>
> device  pcm
>
> I know this board uses MCP-T, but am not sure what it needs as far as
> driver support.

I finally got it to work with the snd_ich driver, which is loaded at 
boot with:

snd_ich_load="YES"

in /boot/loader.conf, and:

device  sound

in the kernel. Just in case anyone else is trying to get sound to work 
with the same board ... currently using 5.3beta6. Here it is in dmesg:

# dmesg | grep pcm
pcm0:  port 0xd000-0xd07f,0xe400-0xe4ff mem 
0xed08-0xed080fff irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci0
pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
pcm0: 

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RE: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-15 Thread Lee Harr
> >[...] I primarily
> >bought this board because of the AGP slot, Althon support
> and general
> >reviews by overclockers and gamers [...]
>
>
> Do you have drm working?  I have never been able to get it to work...
Do you have an ATI card?
No. Matrox G400.
Here is what my dmesg is saying:
drm0:  mem 
0xe900-0xe97f,0xe800-0xe8003fff,0xe400-0xe5ff irq 11 at 
device 0.0 on pci3
info: [drm] AGP at 0xe000 64MB
info: [drm] Initialized mga 3.1.0 20021029 on minor 0

but still, when I try glxinfo it says drm: no.
And glxgears gets only about 20 fps when I maximize the window.
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 13 September 2004 07:09 am, John DeStefano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> You might also try disabling ACPI; I have the same board and this
> worked for me.  Of course, getting the other onboard stuff to work
> properly has been a whole different challenge
> ~John

Speaking of which, do you know which specific sound driver should be 
enabled in the kernel? I have:

device  sound
device  snd_sbc

Which doesn't work. However, in 5.2.1 this worked (which is no longer 
applicable in 5.3):

device  pcm

I know this board uses MCP-T, but am not sure what it needs as far as 
driver support.

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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-13 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 13 September 2004 02:53 pm, "Lee Harr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >[...] I primarily
> >bought this board because of the AGP slot, Althon support and
> > general reviews by overclockers and gamers [...]
>
> Do you have drm working?  I have never been able to get it to work...

No, but I have an ATI, and 3D works. I could switch to an nVidia 
graphics card if it were that important to have drm in FreeBSD, but 
it's not. Still, it would be nice if the card's memory were being used. 
It does seem that eventally even most ATI cards are fully supported, 
but my 9600XT is still a bit too new. As far as the reviews go, those 
were all on Win machines, and I wasn't considering *nix installation at 
the time, but had read that it generally worked for many *nix OSes with 
some minor issues.

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RE: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-13 Thread Hauan, David


> -Original Message-
> From: Lee Harr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X
> 
> 
> >[...] I primarily
> >bought this board because of the AGP slot, Althon support 
> and general 
> >reviews by overclockers and gamers [...]
> 
> 
> Do you have drm working?  I have never been able to get it to work...

Do you have an ATI card?

dave
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-13 Thread Lee Harr
[...] I primarily
bought this board because of the AGP slot, Althon support and general
reviews by overclockers and gamers [...]

Do you have drm working?  I have never been able to get it to work...
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-13 Thread John DeStefano
> On Sunday 12 September 2004 02:56 pm, "Lee Harr"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > On 2004-09-12, Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Well, I'm not entirely sure, either, but in any event I don't
> think
> > >you'll need to go that far. However, I think you'll probably have
> to
> > >stick with 5.x so that your hardware will be supported.
> >
> > Thanks for your help. Once I disabled firewire in the BIOS, the
> > 5.3-beta3 booted and installed just fine.  :o)
> 
> That's funny ... you know, come to think of it I might have done this
> a 
> long time ago, as I tend to configure the BIOS to just enable what I 
> need or might use. Also, dmesg doesn't seem to indicate firewire is 
> there, but there are a few unknowns that might be firewire. I
> primarily 
> bought this board because of the AGP slot, Althon support and general
> 
> reviews by overclockers and gamers, though I've read of some trouble 
> with RAID and firewire on some OSes but haven't tried it myself. I 
> figured if I really want to go with RAID I'll invest in a separate 
> controller with a good reputation. Anyhoot, for general use these 
> boards seem to work fine, and it sounds like it's not a big deal for 
> you to not have firewire support, so there ya go. Have fun! :)
> 
> - jt

You might also try disabling ACPI; I have the same board and this
worked for me.  Of course, getting the other onboard stuff to work
properly has been a whole different challenge
~John



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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 12 September 2004 02:56 pm, "Lee Harr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> On 2004-09-12, Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Well, I'm not entirely sure, either, but in any event I don't think
> >you'll need to go that far. However, I think you'll probably have to
> >stick with 5.x so that your hardware will be supported.
>
> Thanks for your help. Once I disabled firewire in the BIOS, the
> 5.3-beta3 booted and installed just fine.  :o)

That's funny ... you know, come to think of it I might have done this a 
long time ago, as I tend to configure the BIOS to just enable what I 
need or might use. Also, dmesg doesn't seem to indicate firewire is 
there, but there are a few unknowns that might be firewire. I primarily 
bought this board because of the AGP slot, Althon support and general 
reviews by overclockers and gamers, though I've read of some trouble 
with RAID and firewire on some OSes but haven't tried it myself. I 
figured if I really want to go with RAID I'll invest in a separate 
controller with a good reputation. Anyhoot, for general use these 
boards seem to work fine, and it sounds like it's not a big deal for 
you to not have firewire support, so there ya go. Have fun! :)

- jt
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread Lee Harr
Recently I found out that I can make the system boot
4.10-stable by disabling firewire in the kernel. Otherwise
it freezes up while booting.
...
Well... my thought was [...]
On 2004-09-12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I missed the first part of this thread, but have you tried disabling
firewire in bios?
That works perfectly.  Thank you.
On 2004-09-12, Joshua Tinnin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I'm not entirely sure, either, but in any event I don't think
you'll need to go that far. However, I think you'll probably have to
stick with 5.x so that your hardware will be supported.
Thanks for your help. Once I disabled firewire in the BIOS, the
5.3-beta3 booted and installed just fine.  :o)
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 12 September 2004 07:26 am, "Lee Harr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >I have an A7N8X-E Deluxe, and have used it with 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 and
> > now 5.3 beta3. The issues I've read about with Asus mobos have been
> > with the VIA chipset, which isn't on these boards, and also with
> > ACPI - I have it disabled in BIOS and in the kernel.
>
> Yea, that is the  exact same board I have. I thought the main problem
> was with the nforce2 chipset...
>
> I tried the "Boot with ACPI disabled" choice from the bootloader, but
> that one hung during the boot also... I did not try disabling ACPI in
> the BIOS, but I will give that a try.

OK, something else you probably want to do is add this line:
hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"

to /boot/device.hints

> >>Recently I found out that I can make the system boot
> >>4.10-stable by disabling firewire in the kernel. Otherwise
> >>it freezes up while booting.
> >
> >I didn't need to do that, but I don't have any firewire devices, so
> > when I create a custom kernel I end up commenting that out, but it
> > boots even in GENERIC for me. Do you remember if there was a
> > specific error message? What's on the screen when it freezes, like
> > what line of text is last?
>
> There is a thread on -stable where I posted the boot messages.
> Here is one ...
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-May/007428.htm
>l

I'm not entirely sure, but I think if you disable ACPI in device.hints 
and in the BIOS you'll be ok.

> >> > Can I create a 5.3 cd myself from my 4.10 system?
> >> >   (one without firewire, for instance...)
> >>
> >>Er ... no, but you can download ISOs for 5.3 from the fbsd site.
> >
> >Wait ... what do you mean? You can pull the sources and create your
> > own CDs, but you can't use the 4.10 source to make a 5.3 system.
>
> Well... my thought was to set up a 2nd src directory and cvsup
> to RELENG_5_3 so I could build a 5.3 system and then create
> my own iso using a customized kernel without firewire. I just am
> not sure I can do all of that while running on a 4.10 system...

Well, I'm not entirely sure, either, but in any event I don't think 
you'll need to go that far. However, I think you'll probably have to 
stick with 5.x so that your hardware will be supported.

- jt
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread freebsd
I missed the first part of this thread, but have you tried disabling
firewire in bios?
Gary
Lee Harr wrote:
I tried the "Boot with ACPI disabled" choice from the bootloader, but
that one hung during the boot also... I did not try disabling ACPI in
the BIOS, but I will give that a try.
Recently I found out that I can make the system boot
4.10-stable by disabling firewire in the kernel. Otherwise
it freezes up while booting.
...
Well... my thought was to set up a 2nd src directory and cvsup
to RELENG_5_3 so I could build a 5.3 system and then create
my own iso using a customized kernel without firewire. I just am
not sure I can do all of that while running on a 4.10 system...
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread Lee Harr
I have an A7N8X-E Deluxe, and have used it with 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 and now
5.3 beta3. The issues I've read about with Asus mobos have been with
the VIA chipset, which isn't on these boards, and also with ACPI - I
have it disabled in BIOS and in the kernel.
Yea, that is the  exact same board I have. I thought the main problem
was with the nforce2 chipset...
I tried the "Boot with ACPI disabled" choice from the bootloader, but
that one hung during the boot also... I did not try disabling ACPI in
the BIOS, but I will give that a try.
Recently I found out that I can make the system boot
4.10-stable by disabling firewire in the kernel. Otherwise
it freezes up while booting.
I didn't need to do that, but I don't have any firewire devices, so when
I create a custom kernel I end up commenting that out, but it boots
even in GENERIC for me. Do you remember if there was a specific error
message? What's on the screen when it freezes, like what line of text
is last?
There is a thread on -stable where I posted the boot messages.
Here is one ...
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-May/007428.html

> Can I create a 5.3 cd myself from my 4.10 system?
>   (one without firewire, for instance...)
Er ... no, but you can download ISOs for 5.3 from the fbsd site.
Wait ... what do you mean? You can pull the sources and create your own
CDs, but you can't use the 4.10 source to make a 5.3 system.
Well... my thought was to set up a 2nd src directory and cvsup
to RELENG_5_3 so I could build a 5.3 system and then create
my own iso using a customized kernel without firewire. I just am
not sure I can do all of that while running on a 4.10 system...
Thanks for your time.
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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 12 September 2004 12:10 am, Joshua Tinnin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 11 September 2004 04:06 pm, "Lee Harr"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> > Can I create a 5.3 cd myself from my 4.10 system?
> >   (one without firewire, for instance...)
>
> Er ... no, but you can download ISOs for 5.3 from the fbsd site.

Wait ... what do you mean? You can pull the sources and create your own 
CDs, but you can't use the 4.10 source to make a 5.3 system.

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Re: booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-12 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Saturday 11 September 2004 04:06 pm, "Lee Harr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I have one of those goofy asus A7N8X motherboards.

I have an A7N8X-E Deluxe, and have used it with 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 and now 
5.3 beta3. The issues I've read about with Asus mobos have been with 
the VIA chipset, which isn't on these boards, and also with ACPI - I 
have it disabled in BIOS and in the kernel. However, IIRC the onboard 
NIC is only supported in 5.x, which is why I ended up installing it 
instead of 4.10.

> Recently I found out that I can make the system boot
> 4.10-stable by disabling firewire in the kernel. Otherwise
> it freezes up while booting.

I didn't need to do that, but I don't have any firewire devices, so when 
I create a custom kernel I end up commenting that out, but it boots 
even in GENERIC for me. Do you remember if there was a specific error 
message? What's on the screen when it freezes, like what line of text 
is last?

> Today I burned a 5.3-beta3 cd and tried to boot that.
>
> It looks like it freezes at about the same place that 4.10
> stops, but it is hard to tell.

You should try disabling ACPI in the BIOS.

> I tried the set console=comconsole trick in the
> bootloader to try to save the boot messages from a
> serial console, but when I type that in, the system
> just immediately locks up.

Well, not sure about serial console setup ...

> So... a few questions:
>
> Any other tricks I might try to get this to boot? (some
>   way to disable firewire from the bootloader, maybe?)

I think ACPI might be your problem, but not sure about serial consoles.

> Is the set console=comconsole line supposed to work?
> Can I create a 5.3 cd myself from my 4.10 system?
>   (one without firewire, for instance...)

Er ... no, but you can download ISOs for 5.3 from the fbsd site.

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booting beta3 on A7N8X

2004-09-11 Thread Lee Harr
I have one of those goofy asus A7N8X motherboards.
Recently I found out that I can make the system boot
4.10-stable by disabling firewire in the kernel. Otherwise
it freezes up while booting.
Today I burned a 5.3-beta3 cd and tried to boot that.
It looks like it freezes at about the same place that 4.10
stops, but it is hard to tell.
I tried the set console=comconsole trick in the
bootloader to try to save the boot messages from a
serial console, but when I type that in, the system
just immediately locks up.
So... a few questions:
Any other tricks I might try to get this to boot? (some
 way to disable firewire from the bootloader, maybe?)
Is the set console=comconsole line supposed to work?
Can I create a 5.3 cd myself from my 4.10 system?
 (one without firewire, for instance...)
Thanks for any hints...
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