bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread andys
Hi, 

on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see the 
following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this or is the 
only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up without even 
knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix the prob? Is 
this safe to do? 


bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1
# /dev/da0s1:
type: SCSI
disk: da0s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 17750
sectors/unit: 285155328
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 


8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
a: 2097152004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
b: 20971520 75497472  swap
c: 2851536870unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
edit

d: 20971520 209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
e: 20971520 419430404.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
f: 12582912 629145604.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
utilities 



thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk 
management as I havent used it much, 


thanks Andy.
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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote:
> Hi, 
>
> on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see the  
> following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this or is 
> the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up without 
> even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix the 
> prob? Is this safe to do? 
>
> bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1
> # /dev/da0s1:
> type: SCSI
> disk: da0s1
> label:
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 255
> sectors/cylinder: 16065
> cylinders: 17750
> sectors/unit: 285155328
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0 
>
> 8 partitions:
> #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
> a: 2097152004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> b: 20971520 75497472  swap
> c: 2851536870unused0 0 # "raw" part, 
> don't edit
> d: 20971520 209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> e: 20971520 419430404.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> f: 12582912 629145604.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
> bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
> utilities 

It's complaining that 285153687 (see "c" partition) does not equal
285155328 (see "sectors/unit" up top).

> thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk  
> management as I havent used it much, 

I'm left wondering why you're messing around with bsdlabel on a FreeBSD
install in the first place.  :-)

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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread andys
HiJeremy, 

yep I understand what its complaining about I just dont understand how that 
could be wrong after doing a fresh install. The reason I was looking is 
because we left some space unallocated and I need to create a new slice or 
however you call it in BSD... 

cheers Andy. 


Jeremy Chadwick writes:
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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:20:54PM +0100, andys wrote:
> HiJeremy, 
>
> yep I understand what its complaining about I just dont understand how 
> that could be wrong after doing a fresh install. The reason I was looking 
> is because we left some space unallocated and I need to create a new 
> slice or however you call it in BSD... 

It sounds to me that someone "left some space" in the wrong part of the
sysinstall process then -- they should have left some space for slices,
when in fact it appears they left some space for actual partitions.

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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread andys
Well its a strange one, cos mostly the free space is where it should be, the 
difference between the current partition c and the whole disk is very small 
:S. So to remedy this can I just update the size of partion c? Or am I in 
more trouble than that?

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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:38:08PM +0100, andys wrote:
> Well its a strange one, cos mostly the free space is where it should be, 
> the difference between the current partition c and the whole disk is very 
> small :S. So to remedy this can I just update the size of partion c? Or 
> am I in more trouble than that?

I don't have an answer.  Someone more familiar with the aspects of
bsdlabel and labelling will have to answer your question.

You should consider re-asking your original question on freebsd-fs.

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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see the 
> following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this or is 
> the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up without 
> even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix the 
> prob? Is this safe to do? 
> 
> bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1
> # /dev/da0s1:
> type: SCSI
> disk: da0s1
> label:
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 255
> sectors/cylinder: 16065
> cylinders: 17750
> sectors/unit: 285155328
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0 
> 
> 8 partitions:
> #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
> a: 2097152004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> b: 20971520 75497472  swap
> c: 2851536870unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
> edit
> d: 20971520 209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> e: 20971520 419430404.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> f: 12582912 629145604.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
> bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
> utilities 
> 
> thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk 
> management as I havent used it much, 

If you were using sysinstall, I am not sure how this would come up.

Do you have more than one slice on the disk - that which MS refers
to as a 'primary partition'?   Something you might do to create a
'dual boot' machine. 

Are you in the position where you can just wipe it and do a 
reinstall?  I wouldn't just move or resize the c partition after
the fact.   

The c partition should be equal to the size of the slice it is in.
That should just be true after the fdisk part of the operation unless
there is something wrong with the size or alignment of the slice
itself.   And, in that case, I would expect it to have complained
way back in the sysinstall-fdisk part of the process.

So, I would start over if I could.

Just some pictorial perspective to make it easier (I hope) to visualize.

   Whole device
 
 |   slice 1: FreeBSD Slice 2 : slice 3: Slice 4 |
 |  : :: | 
 |  :<-   partition c   ->:: |
 |Some MS thing :  ''''   : Some Linux : Extra   |
 |  :pa' pb ' pd ' pe ' pn:  thing : slice   |
 |  :  ''''   :: |
 |  :  ''''   :: |
 -

A device (whole disk) can have up to 4 slices labeled 1..4.   
Each slice can be of different types.   
MS calls slices 'primary partitions'.

Each FreeBSD type slice can be divided in to "8" (really 7) partitions
that are labeled a..h.   But, c must be used to define the whole slice.
Slices are created by fdisk.  Fdisk also writes the device's MBR.
Partitions are created by bsdlabel (disk label in early versions of FreeBSD)
bsdlabel also writes the slice's boot block.

It is possible to leave empty space in the whole disk that is not 
allocated to any slice or within any given slice that is not allocated
to any partition.   The total of a..h not counting c, plus any non-
allocated space, must add up to c.

It is possible to create what someone has dubbed a 'dangerously dedicated'
disk and just not create slices, but just use bsdlabel to divide the
whole disk in to FreeBSD partitions a-h.  The c partition must still
refer to the whole space available for FreeBSD partitioning.

I think it is also possible to just newfs the disk without using
either fdisk or bsdlabel and create one filesystem without slices
or partitions.I haven't tried it.

Both fdisk and bsdlabel are supposed to keep track of the sizes
correctly, automatically.   That is why I suggest starting over.

If you use sysinstall, it calls fdisk and bsdlabel for you and you
don't have to do it separately unless you want to look and see
what it did.

jerry

> 
> thanks Andy.
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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-19 Thread Andy Smith

   Hi Jerry,
 ok thanks for the answer, its not very good news for me ;( as Ive
   already done alot of config and installed alot of apps, but anyway
   thats my problem now!
   cheers Andy!

   - Original Message 
   From: "Jerry McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   To: "andys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install
   Date: 17/10/08 18:11
   On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote:
   > Hi,
   >
   > on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see
   the
   > following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this
   or is
   > the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up
   without
   > even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix
   the
   > prob? Is this safe to do?
   >
   > bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1
   > # /dev/da0s1:
   > type: SCSI
   > disk: da0s1
   > label:
   > flags:
   > bytes/sector: 512
   > sectors/track: 63
   > tracks/cylinder: 255
   > sectors/cylinder: 16065
   > cylinders: 17750
   > sectors/unit: 285155328
   > rpm: 3600
   > interleave: 1
   > trackskew: 0
   > cylinderskew: 0
   > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds
   > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds
   > drivedata: 0
   >
   > 8 partitions:
   > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   > a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   > b: 20971520 75497472 swap
   > c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't
   > edit
   > d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   > e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   > f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
   > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard
   system
   > utilities
   >
   > thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk
   > management as I havent used it much,
   If you were using sysinstall, I am not sure how this would come up.
   Do you have more than one slice on the disk - that which MS refers
   to as a 'primary partition'? Something you might do to create a
   'dual boot' machine.
   Are you in the position where you can just wipe it and do a
   reinstall? I wouldn't just move or resize the c partition after
   the fact.
   The c partition should be equal to the size of the slice it is in.
   That should just be true after the fdisk part of the operation unless
   there is something wrong with the size or alignment of the slice
   itself. And, in that case, I would expect it to have complained
   way back in the sysinstall-fdisk part of the process.
   So, I would start over if I could.
   Just some pictorial perspective to make it easier (I hope) to
   visualize.
   Whole device
   
   | slice 1 : FreeBSD Slice 2 : slice 3 : Slice 4 |
   | : : : |
   | :<- partition c ->: : |
   |Some MS thing : ' ' ' ' : Some Linux : Extra |
   | :pa' pb ' pd ' pe ' pn: thing : slice |
   | : ' ' ' ' : : |
   | : ' ' ' ' : : |
   -
   A device (whole disk) can have up to 4 slices labeled 1..4.
   Each slice can be of different types.
   MS calls slices 'primary partitions'.
   Each FreeBSD type slice can be divided in to "8" (really 7) partitions
   that are labeled a..h. But, c must be used to define the whole slice.
   Slices are created by fdisk. Fdisk also writes the device's MBR.
   Partitions are created by bsdlabel (disk label in early versions of
   FreeBSD)
   bsdlabel also writes the slice's boot block.
   It is possible to leave empty space in the whole disk that is not
   allocated to any slice or within any given slice that is not allocated
   to any partition. The total of a..h not counting c, plus any non-
   allocated space, must add up to c.
   It is possible to create what someone has dubbed a 'dangerously
   dedicated'
   disk and just not create slices, but just use bsdlabel to divide the
   whole disk in to FreeBSD partitions a-h. The c partition must still
   refer to the whole space available for FreeBSD partitioning.
   I think it is also possible to just newfs the disk without using
   either fdisk or bsdlabel and create one filesystem without slices
   or partitions. I haven't tried it.
   Both fdisk and bsdlabel are supposed to keep track of the sizes
   correctly, automatically. That is why I suggest starting over.
   If you use sysinstall, it calls fdisk and bsdlabel for you and you
   don't have to do it separately unless you want to look and see
   what it did.
   jerry
   >
   &g

Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:22:07AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote:
> > Hi, 
> >
> > on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see the  
> > following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this or is 
> > the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up without 
> > even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix the 
> > prob? Is this safe to do? 
> >
> > bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1
> > # /dev/da0s1:
> > type: SCSI
> > disk: da0s1
> > label:
> > flags:
> > bytes/sector: 512
> > sectors/track: 63
> > tracks/cylinder: 255
> > sectors/cylinder: 16065
> > cylinders: 17750
> > sectors/unit: 285155328
> > rpm: 3600
> > interleave: 1
> > trackskew: 0
> > cylinderskew: 0
> > headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
> > track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> > drivedata: 0 
> >
> > 8 partitions:
> > #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
> > a: 2097152004.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> > b: 20971520 75497472  swap
> > c: 2851536870unused0 0 # "raw" part, 
> > don't edit
> > d: 20971520 209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> > e: 20971520 419430404.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> > f: 12582912 629145604.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
> > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
> > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system 
> > utilities 
> 
> It's complaining that 285153687 (see "c" partition) does not equal
> 285155328 (see "sectors/unit" up top).
> 
> > thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk  
> > management as I havent used it much, 
> 
> I'm left wondering why you're messing around with bsdlabel on a FreeBSD
> install in the first place.  :-)

Do you mean - as apposed to letting sysinstall handle it?
Yah, I would let sysinstall do the disk mangling, but maybe he
did something else.

jerry

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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 03:31:07PM +0100, Andy Smith wrote:

> 
>Hi Jerry,
>  ok thanks for the answer, its not very good news for me ;( as Ive
>already done alot of config and installed alot of apps, but anyway
>thats my problem now!
>cheers Andy!
> 

Interesting, you seemed to have seen my reply before I sent it...
This format is much better - plain text in the body of the message.

Sorry that starting over might be needed.   See if you can discover
along the way where the problem might have started.

I usually take sequential notes as I do an install just in case I have 
to do it over, so I don't have to think so hard the next time... 

jerry

>- Original Message 
>From: "Jerry McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "andys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>    Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install
>Date: 17/10/08 18:11
>On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see
>the
>> following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this
>or is
>> the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up
>without
>> even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix
>the
>> prob? Is this safe to do?
>>
>> bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1
>> # /dev/da0s1:
>> type: SCSI
>> disk: da0s1
>> label:
>> flags:
>> bytes/sector: 512
>> sectors/track: 63
>> tracks/cylinder: 255
>> sectors/cylinder: 16065
>> cylinders: 17750
>> sectors/unit: 285155328
>> rpm: 3600
>> interleave: 1
>> trackskew: 0
>> cylinderskew: 0
>> headswitch: 0 # milliseconds
>> track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds
>> drivedata: 0
>>
>> 8 partitions:
>> # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>> a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
>> b: 20971520 75497472 swap
>> c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't
>> edit
>> d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
>> e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
>> f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
>> bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
>> bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard
>system
>> utilities
>>
>> thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk
>> management as I havent used it much,
>If you were using sysinstall, I am not sure how this would come up.
>Do you have more than one slice on the disk - that which MS refers
>to as a 'primary partition'? Something you might do to create a
>'dual boot' machine.
>Are you in the position where you can just wipe it and do a
>reinstall? I wouldn't just move or resize the c partition after
>the fact.
>The c partition should be equal to the size of the slice it is in.
>That should just be true after the fdisk part of the operation unless
>there is something wrong with the size or alignment of the slice
>itself. And, in that case, I would expect it to have complained
>way back in the sysinstall-fdisk part of the process.
>So, I would start over if I could.
>Just some pictorial perspective to make it easier (I hope) to
>visualize.
>Whole device
>
>| slice 1 : FreeBSD Slice 2 : slice 3 : Slice 4 |
>| : : : |
>| :<- partition c ->: : |
>|Some MS thing : ' ' ' ' : Some Linux : Extra |
>| :pa' pb ' pd ' pe ' pn: thing : slice |
>| : ' ' ' ' : : |
>| : ' ' ' ' : : |
>-
>A device (whole disk) can have up to 4 slices labeled 1..4.
>Each slice can be of different types.
>MS calls slices 'primary partitions'.
>Each FreeBSD type slice can be divided in to "8" (really 7) partitions
>that are labeled a..h. But, c must be used to define the whole slice.
>Slices are created by fdisk. Fdisk also writes the device's MBR.
>Partitions are created by bsdlabel (disk label in early versions of
>FreeBSD)
>bsdlabel also writes the slice's boot block.
>It is possible to leave empty space in the whole disk that is not
>allocat

Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-22 Thread andys
Hi, 

ok, so I have attempted to proceed with my original task which was to create 
a new UFS2 parition (using sysinstall). Having chosen "c" and then "w" from 
the lable section, i recieve the following error: 

Error mounting /dev/da0s1g on /export : No such file or directory 

After exiting sysinstall, I can see from bsdlabel: 


8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
a: 2097152004.2BSD0 0 0
b: 20971520 75497472  swap
c: 2851536870unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
edit

d: 20971520 209715204.2BSD0 0 0
e: 20971520 419430404.2BSD0 0 0
f: 12582912 629145604.2BSD0 0 0
g: 146800640 964689924.2BSD0 0 0
bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! 

"g" is my new partition. Under /dev however I dont see the device file: 


ls /dev/da0*
/dev/da0/dev/da0s1a /dev/da0s1c /dev/da0s1e
/dev/da0s1  /dev/da0s1b /dev/da0s1d /dev/da0s1f 

Can anyone help :( 


thanks a lot,
Andy.
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Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install

2008-10-23 Thread andys
Hi, 

 the below was resolved by rebooting the server. After a reboot the device 
file /dev/da0s1g has been created, however this doesnt seem completely 
normal as sysinstall obviously expected to see the new device file 
immediately. Perhaps there is a prob with my system or is there just a 
problem with the expectations of sysinstall?? :S 

cheers Andy. 

andys writes: 

Hi,  

ok, so I have attempted to proceed with my original task which was to 
create a new UFS2 parition (using sysinstall). Having chosen "c" and then 
"w" from the lable section, i recieve the following error:  

Error mounting /dev/da0s1g on /export : No such file or directory  

After exiting sysinstall, I can see from bsdlabel:  


8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
a: 2097152004.2BSD0 0 0
b: 20971520 75497472  swap
c: 2851536870unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't 
edit

d: 20971520 209715204.2BSD0 0 0
e: 20971520 419430404.2BSD0 0 0
f: 12582912 629145604.2BSD0 0 0
g: 146800640 964689924.2BSD0 0 0
bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!  

"g" is my new partition. Under /dev however I dont see the device file:  


ls /dev/da0*
/dev/da0/dev/da0s1a /dev/da0s1c /dev/da0s1e
/dev/da0s1  /dev/da0s1b /dev/da0s1d /dev/da0s1f  

Can anyone help :(  


thanks a lot,
Andy.

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