Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
At 7:29 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: I use the Promise TX2 and Maxtor pci cards in several systems. I just dropped them in and they worked. You would have to boot scsi. So, you're saying that I can't boot from an ATA drive on a PCI-based controller card? What is the background for this limitation? Also, I'm curious about the effects of turning off hw.ata.ata_dma; outside of using some CPU time, what are the likely effects of this. For instance, is this likely to slow down disk transfers, assuming that the system is mostly idle? -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
On Friday 30 May 2003 09:50 am, Rich Morin wrote: At 7:29 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: I use the Promise TX2 and Maxtor pci cards in several systems. I just dropped them in and they worked. You would have to boot scsi. So, you're saying that I can't boot from an ATA drive on a PCI-based controller card? What is the background for this limitation? No, you didn't understand. The ATA cards appear like a scsi to the bios. To boot from an add in ATA card, you have to choose scsi boot. Also, I'm curious about the effects of turning off hw.ata.ata_dma; outside of using some CPU time, what are the likely effects of this. For instance, is this likely to slow down disk transfers, assuming that the system is mostly idle? You lose a lot of speed. My new ATA cards are all UDMA-133. Dma transfers are always faster. PIO is set at something like 16MB/s. You only get so many milliseconds of time for a each transfer block and dma is always faster. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
At 10:04 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: No, you didn't understand. The ATA cards appear like a scsi to the bios. To boot from an add in ATA card, you have to choose scsi boot. I'll look into this. However, I haven't seen any way to request this in the SETUP screens. Anything I should look for? You lose a lot of speed. My new ATA cards are all UDMA-133. Dma transfers are always faster. PIO is set at something like 16MB/s. You only get so many milliseconds of time for a each transfer block and dma is always faster. So, it's definitely worth pursuing. -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
On Friday 30 May 2003 10:25 am, Rich Morin wrote: At 10:04 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: No, you didn't understand. The ATA cards appear like a scsi to the bios. To boot from an add in ATA card, you have to choose scsi boot. I'll look into this. However, I haven't seen any way to request this in the SETUP screens. Anything I should look for? No, idea. The older machines could all boot from scsi but my in memory boot experience is only with P-II or IIIs and AMD Athlon's or better. These systems have scsi as a defined boot parameter. I had something like a KT7A that was part of the flawed Southbridge set and I had it using an ATA addin card. The mobo eventually died. My systems typically have one HD per controller. They have 2 hooked up to the mobo and 2 to an addin. My buildworld speeds vary as much as 50% or more depending on the setup. You lose a lot of speed. My new ATA cards are all UDMA-133. Dma transfers are always faster. PIO is set at something like 16MB/s. You only get so many milliseconds of time for a each transfer block and dma is always faster. So, it's definitely worth pursuing. My definition of speed is a concept based on how long it takes for the prompt to return after I press the enter key. A fast HD helps. This would be especially true if you were following something other than a release because a buildworld can take place much faster. Installing from a UDMA rated CD-ROM is also much faster but that is also another parameter that you have to add to /boot/loader.conf.. BNW, the parameter name is the same as the depricated sysctl variables but the value has to be quoted (). Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
At 10:52 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: My definition of speed is a concept based on how long it takes for the prompt to return after I press the enter key. A fast HD helps. ... The 300 MHz PII I've been running has been totally satisfactory, in terms of speed, except that I have a Perl/Tk app that is quite demanding. My entire motivation for upgrading is to get this app to run faster. The current setup (PIO) is still faster than the old machine, but I suspect strongly that getting DMA online would be a win... -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
I have tried a couple of PCI-based IDE cards. I see messages that
indicate that the motherboard is seeing the card and that the card
is seeing the disk. Unfortunately, the system is not willing to
boot off the disk (sigh). I have tried changing several settings,
including:
* Setting {Pri,Sec}{Master,Slave} to Not Installed
* Setting the {1st,2nd,3rd} Boot Device to IDE-[123]
* Turning off Plug and PLay Aware O/S
* Turning off Onboard PCI IDE
No luck. Suggestions, anyone?
-r
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Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
On Thu, 29 May 2003 01:35:37 -0700, Rich Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a bit more information on the configuration: OS: FreeBSD 4.5 Disk: Seagate Barracuda ATA II (ST320420A; 20 GB) Chips: 478 pin Celeron; 2.1 GHz 512 MB DDR DIMM (2 ea.) SiS645DX Northbridge _or_ SiS962(L) Southbridge The manual indicates that the motherboard could have either a Northbridge or Southbridge chipset, but I don't know an easy way to tell which one this board has. Suggestions? This was a common problem along about 4.5-4.6. Upgrade to at least 4.7, see if it helps; the cause of the common problem was fixed in 4.7- prerelease. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
At 2:05 AM -0700 5/30/03, Kent Stewart wrote: Did you try doing it in /boot/loader.conf. The man page indicates that I can set assorted variables in this file, so perhaps I could put in a line such as: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 If so, the sysctl.conf(5) man page should be amended to indicate the fact. Nonetheless, as I already have a kernel which has the variable turned off, this wouldn't buy me anything. What I'm really looking for is a way to use a different ATA controller. -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
I recently purchased a new motherboard (ECS EliteGroup Mainboard P4S5A/DX+; AMI BIOS) and a matching CPU (Celeron, 478 pin, 2.1 GHz) from outpost.com. I stuffed these into an old chassis, adding a 500 W power supply and a pair of 512 MB DDR DIMMs. After walking through the configuration (accepting Optimal Settings for everything), I tried booting up the machine on an IDE drive that was loaded with FreeBSD and had been used most recently with a 200 MHz Pentium II. The boot sequence proceeded without problems for quite a while, checking devices, etc. Then, however, it halted with a pair of nastygrams: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 resetting ata0: resetting devices I tried putting the ATA drive and the CDROM on separate cables, but that didn't seem to help. My suspicion is that the drive is too slow for the ATA controller, but I don't see any way to compensate for this. Help? -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
Le Jeudi 29 Mai 2003 07:05, Rich Morin a écrit : I recently purchased a new motherboard (ECS EliteGroup Mainboard P4S5A/DX+; AMI BIOS) and a matching CPU (Celeron, 478 pin, 2.1 GHz) from outpost.com. I stuffed these into an old chassis, adding a 500 W power supply and a pair of 512 MB DDR DIMMs. After walking through the configuration (accepting Optimal Settings for everything), I tried booting up the machine on an IDE drive that was loaded with FreeBSD and had been used most recently with a 200 MHz Pentium II. The boot sequence proceeded without problems for quite a while, checking devices, etc. Then, however, it halted with a pair of nastygrams: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 resetting ata0: resetting devices I tried putting the ATA drive and the CDROM on separate cables, but that didn't seem to help. My suspicion is that the drive is too slow for the ATA controller, but I don't see any way to compensate for this. Help? Hello, Deactivate the DMA mode in the BIOS, and it it should boot. Which version of FreeBSD do you use ? What is the chipset used by the motherboard ? If you're on 4.8, with a SiS 651, here is a possible fix to use the DMA modes : http://minilien.com/?BNI4EdKfXa Fix: Here is the patch to /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c *** ata-dma.c.orig Wed Oct 2 23:13:38 2002 --- ata-dma.c Tue Feb 25 10:20:08 2003 *** *** 504,509 --- 504,510 ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06401039, 0) || /* SiS 640 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06451039, 0) || /* SiS 645 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06501039, 0) || /* SiS 650 */ + ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06511039, 0) || /* SiS 651 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07301039, 0) || /* SiS 730 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07331039, 0) || /* SiS 733 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07351039, 0) || /* SiS 735 */ It worked fine for this 3 monthes on my machine. I'm afraid the same problem may occur on SiS 648, 655, 746 and 755-based machines... Florent ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot problem: ata0: resetting devices
Here's a bit more information on the configuration: OS: FreeBSD 4.5 Disk: Seagate Barracuda ATA II (ST320420A; 20 GB) Chips: 478 pin Celeron; 2.1 GHz 512 MB DDR DIMM (2 ea.) SiS645DX Northbridge _or_ SiS962(L) Southbridge The manual indicates that the motherboard could have either a Northbridge or Southbridge chipset, but I don't know an easy way to tell which one this board has. Suggestions? Anyway, assuming that it's the latter, here's a note that seems relevant, if not real encouraging: http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/160/2002/11/0/10219234/ the controller is technically unsupported The note does NOT say whether I can simply plug in a PCI-based controller card (which seems like the obvious workaround). Is this likely to work? -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sparc64 and standard PCI devices
Hello, I've installed FreeBSD 5.0 Sparc64 on a E450 and I'm trying to use standard PCI ethernet cards. According to http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/sparc64/support.html#ETHERNET these cards are supposed to be supported but I can't get them to work. I've tried with both RTL8139 and 3COM905 cards. The cards are detected by the software but they dont send or receive any packet. I even recompiled all the software on the box and the kernel. They still don't work. This is the output of uname -a FreeBSD freebsd.onix.ro 5.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat Jan 18 07:39:17 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM sparc64 Please let me know if these are are supposed to be working on sparc64 platforms. Thanks in advance, Marian Dobre To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Sparc64 and standard PCI devices
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:28:25PM +0200, Marian Dobre wrote: Hello, I've installed FreeBSD 5.0 Sparc64 on a E450 and I'm trying to use standard PCI ethernet cards. sparc64 questions should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] According to http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/sparc64/support.html#ETHERNET these cards are supposed to be supported but I can't get them to work. I've tried with both RTL8139 and 3COM905 cards. The cards are detected by the software but they dont send or receive any packet. I even recompiled all the software on the box and the kernel. They still don't work. This is the output of uname -a FreeBSD freebsd.onix.ro 5.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat Jan 18 07:39:17 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM sparc64 Please let me know if these are are supposed to be working on sparc64 platforms. You forgot to mention the device name(s). It's possible the drivers do not yet work on sparc64 machines because they contain non-portable code. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 3 IDE devices on Promise card + FreeBSD == not possible?
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003, Len Conrad wrote: Are you sure that configuring the TX2 as RAID 0 array is what you want to do, vs SPAN (aka JBOD)? To boot from the Fasttrack card, I needed at least one RAID device defined in its BIOS. The Promise tech said a good NOOP was to just have a one disk striped array. I would guess that under vinum, span/jbod would be best, but just guessing. In actuality, I wanted the drives mirrored for data integrity. Now I have a new 80GiB hard drive on my PC. I made a 30GiB partition for my digital pictures and will use rsync to replicate them to the file server's mirrored array at night. Now, I've just got one more question about this stuff though... Gonna take it to another post though... Thanks, pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: 3 IDE devices on Promise card + FreeBSD == not possible?
I've been posting about this since the beginning on the year. A few times on freebsd-questions, once on freebsd-hackers, and submitted a PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48165). Are you sure that configuring the TX2 as RAID 0 array is what you want to do, vs SPAN (aka JBOD)? I would guess that under vinum, span/jbod would be best, but just guessing. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Number of PCI devices?
How can I make FreeBSD recognize more than the first 4 PCI devices? I'm running 4.7-RELEASE. Eric -- -- Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Attitudes are contagious, is yours worth catching? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
SCSI Devices Delay
I use to run an ABIT Dual Processor board with 2 1 gig processors on it and recently upgraded to a single Titan P4 2GIG Celeron single processor board and I am now having a weird problem and I hope you can help. With the old board on boot up the system would say Waiting for SCSI Devices to Settle before the OS probed out the devices. Now after the new board was installed the OS decides to Wait for the SCSI Devices to settle after all the devices are probed and about 50% of the time the SCSI devices time out and we have to do another reboot. We are running FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE. The SCSI devices I have been referring to are our Raid 5 drives. We have 4 Cheetah 10K drive on a DPT Raid card. I have recompiled the kernel and this has not helped either. Thank you in advance. Mike Alich To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: SCSI Devices Delay
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:30:46 -0500 Mike Alich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use to run an ABIT Dual Processor board with 2 1 gig processors on it and recently upgraded to a single Titan P4 2GIG Celeron single processor board and I am now having a weird problem and I hope you can help. With the old board on boot up the system would say Waiting for SCSI Devices to Settle before the OS probed out the devices. Now after the new board was installed the OS decides to Wait for the SCSI Devices to settle after all the devices are probed and about 50% of the time the SCSI devices time out and we have to do another reboot. We are running FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE. The SCSI devices I have been referring to are our Raid 5 drives. We have 4 Cheetah 10K drive on a DPT Raid card. I have recompiled the kernel and this has not helped either. Mike, You can control the settle time with this kernel config option: options SCSI_DELAY=3000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI Add this line to your kernel config and set the SCSI_DELAY= to a reasonable option, then rebuild and install the new kernel. HTH Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
problems creating tun1 tun2 etc devices
Hi ive got major problems creating extra tun interfaces on freebsd 4.7 server the command ifconfig tun1 create gives the following error messages ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument ifconfig -C doesnt give any cloneable interfaces but there is a tun0 interface ronning does anybody know how to make it so that tun interfaces are cloneable? thanks theo purmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: problems creating tun1 tun2 etc devices
The tunx devices are only created by 'user ppp' You can not manually create tunx devices. There is an kernel option to increase the number of tunx devices that 'user ppp' can create. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Theo Purmer (Tepucom) Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:54 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: problems creating tun1 tun2 etc devices Hi ive got major problems creating extra tun interfaces on freebsd 4.7 server the command ifconfig tun1 create gives the following error messages ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument ifconfig -C doesnt give any cloneable interfaces but there is a tun0 interface ronning does anybody know how to make it so that tun interfaces are cloneable? thanks theo purmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Network Devices dc0 receives just errors
Hi, can someone explaine to newbie why this is happening? hare are my old(233 MMX) computers phpSysInfo: http://mntkz.net/data/phpSysInfo/ now the question is why on Network Devices dc0 it counts only errors. Network is working prety fine, kind of slow but it works. Any ideas? And one more thing. do i need /dev there? (i never used it actualy, and i don't know what it is for :) ) Thanks! -mNTKz (newb) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, mike wrote: A: What is the hardware name of the device i am looking for that will allow more then 4 ide devices to one box. Add extra IDE card(s). B: do you know of a brand name i should be looking for that you recommend, or even a retailer. Quite happy with a machine with 1scsi+16ide disks based on an 8 port IDE raid card delivered by www.asacomputers.com using a 3WARE Escalade IDE pci card. Though with hindsight I propably should have used 2 4 port IDE cards instead; as I am often hitting card bandwidth. DW To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 10:56:37PM -0500, mike wrote: Problem is as you can guess from the subject is i got 4 120 gig hard drives in there, and i would like to have a CDROM and maybe even more disks as needed. A: What is the hardware name of the device i am looking for that will allow more then 4 ide devices to one box. Get a Promise TX2 controller. They are about 20 pounds. B: do you know of a brand name i should be looking for that you recommend, or even a retailer. http://www.promise.com/product/product_list_eng.asp?familyId=3 I know the ATA100 Promise controllers are supported, since I've got one. I think the ATA133 ones are as well. Ceri PS. Make sure you have options ATA_STATIC_ID in your kernel before you install it, unless you want lots of fun. -- By the rock of a 250 pound woman! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:12:47PM -0800, Mike Hogsett wrote: Can't you just go down into /dev and do : ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5 ad6 ad7 and gain access to the 4 drives on a second (supported) IDE controller? Umm, two devices per controller ? Ceri -- Your weakness shall be your defeat! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 20:12:47 -0800, Mike Hogsett wrote: Can't you just go down into /dev and do : ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5 ad6 ad7 and gain access to the 4 drives on a second (supported) IDE controller? I know i did that when i installed a promise ATA66100 addon card.. I had to make ad4 5 6 7 although i only had 1 drive and two cdroms on the mobo controller --- doug reynolds | the maverick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
At 11:49 AM 12.4.2002 -0500, Doug Reynolds wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 20:12:47 -0800, Mike Hogsett wrote: Can't you just go down into /dev and do : ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5 ad6 ad7 and gain access to the 4 drives on a second (supported) IDE controller? I know i did that when i installed a promise ATA66100 addon card.. I had to make ad4 5 6 7 although i only had 1 drive and two cdroms on the mobo controller --- doug reynolds | the maverick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, with RAID enabled on the MB, then it wants ad4 as first device and up as far as FBSD is concerned. Using the ATA enable only (and not the RAID) then it is not activated... at least on my MB with a Promise ATA100/RAID. The MB uses jumpers for each of these. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:11:32 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote: At 11:49 AM 12.4.2002 -0500, Doug Reynolds wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 20:12:47 -0800, Mike Hogsett wrote: Can't you just go down into /dev and do : ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5 ad6 ad7 and gain access to the 4 drives on a second (supported) IDE controller? I know i did that when i installed a promise ATA66100 addon card.. I had to make ad4 5 6 7 although i only had 1 drive and two cdroms on the mobo controller --- doug reynolds | the maverick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, with RAID enabled on the MB, then it wants ad4 as first device and up as far as FBSD is concerned. Using the ATA enable only (and not the RAID) then it is not activated... at least on my MB with a Promise ATA100/RAID. The MB uses jumpers for each of these. mine wasn't RAID. it jumps to ad4 because the mb has ad0 - ad3 --- doug reynolds | the maverick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
Hey people, Here's the long and short of it. I have my main server unixhideout.com running samba. All my windows clients programs such as kaZAa and even their My documents save to /mirror /mirror2 /mirror3 and /mirror4 which are writable shares, that way we can reinstall windows weekly if need be (ha) but all important data is safe on FreeBSD. Its working really well for years now. Problem is as you can guess from the subject is i got 4 120 gig hard drives in there, and i would like to have a CDROM and maybe even more disks as needed. A: What is the hardware name of the device i am looking for that will allow more then 4 ide devices to one box. B: do you know of a brand name i should be looking for that you recommend, or even a retailer. *SCSI is expensive and IS better but at this time not an option so please stick with IDE in your suggestions. -- -mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network administrator The unixhideout network http://www.unixhideout.com Need to get a hold of me? finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Free email that kicks ass from UnixHideout The UnixHideout network http://www.unixhideout.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
For what you're doing just get an IDE Raid controller card, then you'll technically have 8 drives, 4 of which you can raid by hardware and another 4 that you can raid by software. They're not that expensive. Just make sure before you buy one that you check out the supported hardware under your version of freebsd to make sure it is supported. Dave mike wrote: Hey people, Here's the long and short of it. I have my main server unixhideout.com running samba. All my windows clients programs such as kaZAa and even their My documents save to /mirror /mirror2 /mirror3 and /mirror4 which are writable shares, that way we can reinstall windows weekly if need be (ha) but all important data is safe on FreeBSD. Its working really well for years now. Problem is as you can guess from the subject is i got 4 120 gig hard drives in there, and i would like to have a CDROM and maybe even more disks as needed. A: What is the hardware name of the device i am looking for that will allow more then 4 ide devices to one box. B: do you know of a brand name i should be looking for that you recommend, or even a retailer. *SCSI is expensive and IS better but at this time not an option so please stick with IDE in your suggestions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: More then 4 IDE devices in one FreeBSD server.
Can't you just go down into /dev and do : ./MAKEDEV ad4 ad5 ad6 ad7 and gain access to the 4 drives on a second (supported) IDE controller? - Mike Hey people, Here's the long and short of it. I have my main server unixhideout.com running samba. All my windows clients programs such as kaZAa and even their My documents save to /mirror /mirror2 /mirror3 and /mirror4 which are writable shares, that way we can reinstall windows weekly if need be (ha) but all important data is safe on FreeBSD. Its working really well for years now. Problem is as you can guess from the subject is i got 4 120 gig hard drives in there, and i would like to have a CDROM and maybe even more disks as needed. A: What is the hardware name of the device i am looking for that will allow more then 4 ide devices to one box. B: do you know of a brand name i should be looking for that you recommend, or even a retailer. *SCSI is expensive and IS better but at this time not an option so please stick with IDE in your suggestions. -- -mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network administrator The unixhideout network http://www.unixhideout.com Need to get a hold of me? finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Free email that kicks ass from UnixHideout The UnixHideout network http://www.unixhideout.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Probing devices....
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-11-03 07:00:51 +0300: In the beginning of installation FreeBSD 4.4 (after kernel configuration) there is a message Probing Devices, please wait.. Further installation does not move ahead. This problem has appeared after installation internal PCI modem (3COM USR Robotics 56k hard voice #3298). During loading installation it is visible: sio0: 3COM PCI FaxModem port 0xd800-0xd807 irq 12 at device 16.0 on pci0 sio0: moving to sio4 I'm not familiar with this stuff, so I might be talking out of my ass, but what is your PNP Operating System BIOS setting? try turning it off. -- If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Probing devices....
hello! In the beginning of installation FreeBSD 4.4 (after kernel configuration) there is a message Probing Devices, please wait.. Further installation does not move ahead. This problem has appeared after installation internal PCI modem (3COM USR Robotics 56k hard voice #3298). During loading installation it is visible: sio0: 3COM PCI FaxModem port 0xd800-0xd807 irq 12 at device 16.0 on pci0 sio0: moving to sio4 What to do? -- gretz, vladimir. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Increasing the total number of devices
Hello all, Im playing with vnconfig and /dev/vn's. I have tested that cannot have a vn512 device, and what Im planning will need a lot more (thousands) Please, is there any way of increasing the total number of devices of a kind (in my case, vn devices) to have thousands... And another related question, is there any problem if I mount all this thousand devices? How many disks (virtual) can I have mounted at a time? Where can I find this variables and information related? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Character Devices vs. Block Devices
Hello, A quick ls of my dev directory revealed that each one of my hard drives is considered a character device by the system. Example: crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0x00010002 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0 crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0a crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 1 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0b crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 2 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0c crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 3 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0d crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 4 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0e crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 5 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0f crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 6 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0g crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 7 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0h What I am confused about, aren't hard drives treated as block devices on most systems? What am I missing? Regards, Weston To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Character Devices vs. Block Devices
From: Weston M. Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:19:59 + Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, A quick ls of my dev directory revealed that each one of my hard drives is considered a character device by the system. Example: crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0x00010002 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0 crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0a crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 1 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0b crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 2 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0c crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 3 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0d crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 4 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0e crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 5 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0f crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 6 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0g crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 7 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0h What I am confused about, aren't hard drives treated as block devices on most systems? What am I missing? Nothing. I can't comment on most systems, but block devices were eliminated from FreeBSD in V4. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Character Devices vs. Block Devices
So, given this, I am assuming that hard drives are treated as raw devices exclusively? That is, no intermediate buffers are maintained between the user process and the device: From The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD operating system: The character interface does not copy the user data into a kernel buffer before putting then on an I/O queue. Rather, it arranges to have the I/O done directly to or from the address space of the process. Is this valid on FreeBSD? Regard, Weston On Tuesday 01 October 2002 03:19 pm, Weston M. Price wrote: Hello, A quick ls of my dev directory revealed that each one of my hard drives is considered a character device by the system. Example: crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0x00010002 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0 crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0a crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 1 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0b crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 2 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0c crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 3 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0d crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 4 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0e crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 5 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0f crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 6 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0g crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 7 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0h What I am confused about, aren't hard drives treated as block devices on most systems? What am I missing? Regards, Weston To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Character Devices vs. Block Devices
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Weston M. Price wrote: So, given this, I am assuming that hard drives are treated as raw devices exclusively? That is, no intermediate buffers are maintained between the user process and the device: Nope, there is buffering for the file system interface. I dont remember the exact reasons for nuking the block devices, but I think it has to do with the new VM subsystem and the integrated buffer cache/VM, but my memory may be failing. If you want a more acurate answer, search the archives for -hackers and -current Is this valid on FreeBSD? Nope. The book was written before FreeBSD nuked block devices. Fer Regard, Weston On Tuesday 01 October 2002 03:19 pm, Weston M. Price wrote: Hello, A quick ls of my dev directory revealed that each one of my hard drives is considered a character device by the system. Example: crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0x00010002 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0 crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 0 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0a crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 1 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0b crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 2 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0c crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 3 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0d crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 4 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0e crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 5 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0f crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 6 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0g crw-r- 2 root operator 116, 7 Aug 19 16:09 /dev/ad0h What I am confused about, aren't hard drives treated as block devices on most systems? What am I missing? Regards, Weston To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
usb devices not being detected
Hi, When I plug in (or boot with attached) my usb devices arent ever detected. (I have tried Microsoft Natural Keyboard, and Digital Camera). usbd is enabled in rc.conf and is in memory when i do a ps. dmesg output below. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jacob uhci0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B port 0xe880-0xe89f irq 5 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C port 0xec00-0xec1f irq 9 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Jacob RhodenPhone: +61 3 9844 6102 ITS DivisionEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: number of snoop devices
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 11:43:54PM -0400, Tien Duc Nguyen typed: Hi all, On a stock FreeBSD 4.6 Release install, after recompiling the kernel with 25 snoop devices, I'm stuck with at most 10 watch-ed snoop devices. At first, /dev/MAKEDEV snp10 doesn't work, so I've created the 11th snoop device by hand with 'mknod snp10 c 53 `unit2minor 10`' but watch complains about attaching to the 11th tty (ttypa). Therefore, I was wondering if there's a limit in the number of snoop devices watch can monitor (having seen anyone using 3-5 devices), or am I doing something wrong here? You probably have to recompile watch. Any suggestions greatly appreciated! Tien Duc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
number of snoop devices
Hi all, On a stock FreeBSD 4.6 Release install, after recompiling the kernel with 25 snoop devices, I'm stuck with at most 10 watch-ed snoop devices. At first, /dev/MAKEDEV snp10 doesn't work, so I've created the 11th snoop device by hand with 'mknod snp10 c 53 `unit2minor 10`' but watch complains about attaching to the 11th tty (ttypa). Therefore, I was wondering if there's a limit in the number of snoop devices watch can monitor (having seen anyone using 3-5 devices), or am I doing something wrong here? Any suggestions greatly appreciated! Tien Duc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
