Hardware Problem

2006-10-30 Thread Doug Hardie
I have a hardware problem with a disk drive.  Last night I received  
millions of messages like:


Oct 29 23:00:02 zook kernel: ad0: timeout waiting for write DRQ
Oct 29 23:00:02 zook kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s1e[WRITE 
(offset=39908835328, lengt

h=8192)]error = 5
Oct 29 23:00:02 zook kernel: ad0: timeout waiting for write DRQ
Oct 29 23:00:02 zook kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s1e[WRITE 
(offset=39908835328, lengt

h=8192)]error = 5
Oct 29 23:00:16 zook kernel: ad0: timeout waiting for write DRQ
Oct 29 23:00:16 zook last message repeated 3 times
Oct 29 23:00:16 zook kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s1e[WRITE 
(offset=1433600, length=81

92)]error = 5
Oct 29 23:00:16 zook kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s1e[WRITE 
(offset=1441792, length=81

92)]error = 5
Oct 29 23:00:16 zook kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s1e[WRITE 
(offset=1449984, length=51

20)]error = 5
Oct 29 23:00:16 zook kernel: g_vfs_done():ad0s1e[WRITE(offset=8192,  
length=2048)

]error = 5
Oct 29 23:00:28 zook kernel: ad0: timeout waiting for write DRQ
Oct 29 23:00:28 zook last message repeated 8 times

They were going to messages and the console as fast as the system  
could log them.  ad0 is not the boot disk but is used to hold large  
files.  I have seen somewhat similar problems once before and  
replaced the drive.  That was about a year ago.  This time I am  
suspecting the IDE controller.  Is this reasonable, or is it still  
likely a drive failure?


Rebooting the system appears to have temporarily terminated the  
problem as I am no longer receiving the messages and nothing appears  
to have been lost on ad0.  However, the bulk of data on it are the  
news archive and other archive files that were replaced shortly after  
the reboot.


smartctl shows passed on the drive, but I believe I am reading that 6  
sectors have been remapped.

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hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
Hi guys,
   this is really not about freebsd per sa. But this is the only
computer-related forum I use. so please forgive me.
my desktop was relocated due to my recent moving to a new
apartment. After settling down at the new place, I plug in the cables
and the computer won't start up. I open the case and found out that
when i switched on the power supply from the back, the power fan and
cpu fan will spin for a split second then stop. I tried to debug by
unplugging the cables, when doing so, sometimes the fans will spin for
10 seconds, maybe, but most of the time, it just stopped right after
the power switched on. I also try to hold down the start button on the
front for a while, but no good. I was told the mother board maybe
short-circuit. can anyone give a second opinion?? thanks!!

TFC
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SCSI Hardware problem?

2005-01-06 Thread Tom Vilot
This looks to me like I've got a hardware problem. SCSI drive 0:4:0 -- 
or is this perhaps something else?

I had to manually type this in ... :) copying it off the screen since I 
don't see this stuff in a log anywhere.

FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual 450MHz Xeon with SCSI and IDE. GENERIC kernel.
There was stuff above this, but it had scrolled off the screen and the 
console was locked up.

da1 (scsi 4 on bus 0) is my boot drive.
---
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCB 0x3 - timed out
sg[0] - Addr 0x2574b000
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): no longer in timeout, status = 24a
ahc1: Timedout SCBs already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning.
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a, 0 0 47 49 23 0 0 4 0
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,1
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Power on occurred
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Retrying Command (per sense Data)
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a, 0 0 47 49 23 0 0 4 0
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM  Status: Check Condition
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,1
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Power on occurred
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Retries Exhausted
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): lost device
(da1:ahc1:0:4:0): invalidating pack
panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started
Uptime: 3d12h50m3s
---
I'm guessing I will want to copy this entire drive over to another one. 
What's the best way  dd?

Oh, one other question ...
I'm used to runlevels on Linux. When I reset this machine, I'm presented 
with the prompt asking me for the default shell (/bin/sh). I hit enter, 
and I'm in sh where I can fsck the other drives and mount them. Cool. 
But once I have done that, how do I tell BSD to basically "continue" 
where it left off (i.e. run /etc/netstart sshd, httpd, psqld, zope, etc) 
without manually invoking each of those items?

Thanks in advance.
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Nasty hardware problem...

2003-12-02 Thread Dr Lyman Hazelton
I trying to bring up a file server a system with a 1.5GHz AMD Athlon, 
256MB RAM, an older AHA2940 SCSI card with an IBM DDYS-T18350N hard 
drive.  The hard drive is connected to the second channel (the 
Ultra-wide channel) on the 2940.  During the boot process (from the 
dmesg) the machine stops with a SCSI Status Error (Check Condition) 
saying it refuses Tagged commands.  The boot system appears to then 
go into untagged mode and finds that the SCSI card has been RESET.  
There follows a dump of the card, which I have attached here.  Could 
this be because the data rate frequency is set too high?  I lowered 
it from 20MB/s to 16MB/s, but I could go as low as 10MB/s.  On the 
other hand, that may have nothing to do with the problem.  This is 
kind of a shot in the dark, I know... but someone out there in 
FreeBSD land might have seen something like this before.  Please 
forgive the long message.

   -Lyman
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: >> Dump Card State Begins 
<
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: ahc0: Dumping Card State in Message-in phase, at 
SEQADDR 0x1bf
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Card was paused
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: ACCUM = 0x0, SINDEX = 0x31, DINDEX = 0xc0, ARG_2 = 
0x8
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: HCNT = 0x0 SCBPTR = 0x7
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCSISIGI[0xe6]:(REQI|BSYI|MSGI|IOI|CDI) ERROR[0x0] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCSIBUSL[0x80] LASTPHASE[0xe0]:(MSGI|IOI|CDI) 
SCSISEQ[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SBLKCTL[0x2]:(SELWIDE) SCSIRATE[0x0] 
SEQCTL[0x10]:(FASTMODE) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SEQ_FLAGS[0xc0]:(NO_CDB_SENT|NOT_IDENTIFIED) 
SSTAT0[0x7]:(DMADONE|SPIORDY|SDONE) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SSTAT1[0x3]:(REQINIT|PHASECHG) SSTAT2[0x0] 
SSTAT3[0x0] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SIMODE0[0x0] 
SIMODE1[0xac]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENBUSFREE|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SXFRCTL0[0x88]:(SPIOEN|DFON) 
DFCNTRL[0x4]:(DIRECTION) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 
DFSTATUS[0x6d]:(FIFOEMP|DFTHRESH|HDONE|FIFOQWDEMP|DFCACHETH) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: STACK: 0x144 0x0 0x191 0x199
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB count = 70
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Kernel NEXTQSCB = 69
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Card NEXTQSCB = 69
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: QINFIFO entries: 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Waiting Queue entries: 15:32 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 8:34 11:36 5:2 3:59 
13:53 6:41 0:15 10:8 1:38 12:35 9:9 2:1 4:40 14:33 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: QOUTFIFO entries: 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 7 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: Sequencer SCB Info: 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 0 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xf] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 1 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x26] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 2 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x1] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 3 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x3b] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 4 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x28] 
Dec  2 21:10:55 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 5 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x2] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 6 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x29] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 7 SCB_CONTROL[0x10]:(MK_MESSAGE) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 8 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x22] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 9 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) 
SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x9] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 10 
SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x8] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: 11 
SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x87]:(TWIN_CHNLB) 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cogitek-UX2 kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x24] 
Dec  2 21:10:56 Cog

Nasty hardware problem...

2003-12-02 Thread Dr Lyman Hazelton
Oops!  Major irq head-butting is the problem.  I'm amazed the system 
even came up far enough to complain about it.  Sorry I bothered the 
list with this.

   -Lyman

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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread DAve
Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
> Hi guys,
>this is really not about freebsd per sa. But this is the only
> computer-related forum I use. so please forgive me.
> my desktop was relocated due to my recent moving to a new
> apartment. After settling down at the new place, I plug in the cables
> and the computer won't start up. I open the case and found out that
> when i switched on the power supply from the back, the power fan and
> cpu fan will spin for a split second then stop. I tried to debug by
> unplugging the cables, when doing so, sometimes the fans will spin for
> 10 seconds, maybe, but most of the time, it just stopped right after
> the power switched on. I also try to hold down the start button on the
> front for a while, but no good. I was told the mother board maybe
> short-circuit. can anyone give a second opinion?? thanks!!
> 
> TFC

IMO, experience says the worst thing you can do to a computer is leave
it sit a year running, and then move it.

I would get a grounding wrist strap, open the case, remove all cards and
memory, disconnect all hard drives, clean with a soft brush (never a
vacuum cleaner), reseat all cards and memory, reconnect all hard drives,
and then try to restart it.

Even without a post code announcing a problem, I have fixed many "moved"
PCs this way.

DAve

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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Derek Ragona

At 08:06 AM 2/25/2008, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

Hi guys,
   this is really not about freebsd per sa. But this is the only
computer-related forum I use. so please forgive me.
my desktop was relocated due to my recent moving to a new
apartment. After settling down at the new place, I plug in the cables
and the computer won't start up. I open the case and found out that
when i switched on the power supply from the back, the power fan and
cpu fan will spin for a split second then stop. I tried to debug by
unplugging the cables, when doing so, sometimes the fans will spin for
10 seconds, maybe, but most of the time, it just stopped right after
the power switched on. I also try to hold down the start button on the
front for a while, but no good. I was told the mother board maybe
short-circuit. can anyone give a second opinion?? thanks!!

TFC


It sounds like you have something shorting out the motherboard.  I would 
remove everything you can, all add-on cards etc.  Just leave a video card, 
unless video is on the motherboard.  I would disconnect all the drives 
too.  The idea is to remove everything, so you can check just the 
motherboard alone.  If the motherboard still won't power on, remove and 
reseat the RAM.  If it still won't power up, remove and re-seat the CPU.


I would guess something inside the case was moved around enough in your 
move to cause the short.


-Derek

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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread D G Teed
Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a power supply
problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these days and can't
handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations.  Most people
who deal with hardware have a spare power supply around just for
testing as this is a very common problem.  Motherboards typically
do not stop power supply fans when they can't post.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, DAve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  IMO, experience says the worst thing you can do to a computer is leave
>  it sit a year running, and then move it.
>
>  I would get a grounding wrist strap, open the case, remove all cards and
>  memory, disconnect all hard drives, clean with a soft brush (never a
>  vacuum cleaner), reseat all cards and memory, reconnect all hard drives,
>  and then try to restart it.
>
>  Even without a post code announcing a problem, I have fixed many "moved"
>  PCs this way.
>
>  DAve
>
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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
thank you all for helping. I will reinstall my main again from
scratch. one thing i want to know is that if my m-board is short
somewhere, does this mean my board is damaged? or it's okay if i can
find out what is wrong, and so most likely i need to buy a power
supply, is that right at the moment?? thans!!

TFC

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM, D G Teed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
>  the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a power supply
>  problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these days and can't
>  handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations.  Most people
>  who deal with hardware have a spare power supply around just for
>  testing as this is a very common problem.  Motherboards typically
>  do not stop power supply fans when they can't post.
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, DAve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  IMO, experience says the worst thing you can do to a computer is leave
>  >  it sit a year running, and then move it.
>  >
>  >  I would get a grounding wrist strap, open the case, remove all cards and
>  >  memory, disconnect all hard drives, clean with a soft brush (never a
>  >  vacuum cleaner), reseat all cards and memory, reconnect all hard drives,
>  >  and then try to restart it.
>  >
>  >  Even without a post code announcing a problem, I have fixed many "moved"
>  >  PCs this way.
>  >
>  >  DAve
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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Derek Ragona

At 09:58 AM 2/25/2008, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

thank you all for helping. I will reinstall my main again from
scratch. one thing i want to know is that if my m-board is short
somewhere, does this mean my board is damaged? or it's okay if i can
find out what is wrong, and so most likely i need to buy a power
supply, is that right at the moment?? thans!!

TFC


I would look for the short first.  You may need to replace nothing.  Be 
sure to check the Motherboard case connectors to the switchs and LEDs as well.


-Derek




On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM, D G Teed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
>  the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a power supply
>  problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these days and can't
>  handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations.  Most people
>  who deal with hardware have a spare power supply around just for
>  testing as this is a very common problem.  Motherboards typically
>  do not stop power supply fans when they can't post.
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, DAve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  IMO, experience says the worst thing you can do to a computer is leave
>  >  it sit a year running, and then move it.
>  >
>  >  I would get a grounding wrist strap, open the case, remove all 
cards and

>  >  memory, disconnect all hard drives, clean with a soft brush (never a
>  >  vacuum cleaner), reseat all cards and memory, reconnect all hard 
drives,

>  >  and then try to restart it.
>  >
>  >  Even without a post code announcing a problem, I have fixed many 
"moved"

>  >  PCs this way.
>  >
>  >  DAve
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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Derek Ragona wrote:

At 08:06 AM 2/25/2008, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

Hi guys,
   this is really not about freebsd per sa. But this is the only
computer-related forum I use. so please forgive me.
my desktop was relocated due to my recent moving to a new
apartment. After settling down at the new place, I plug in the cables
and the computer won't start up. I open the case and found out that
when i switched on the power supply from the back, the power fan and
cpu fan will spin for a split second then stop. I tried to debug by
unplugging the cables, when doing so, sometimes the fans will spin for
10 seconds, maybe, but most of the time, it just stopped right after
the power switched on. I also try to hold down the start button on the
front for a while, but no good. I was told the mother board maybe
short-circuit. can anyone give a second opinion?? thanks!!

TFC


It sounds like you have something shorting out the motherboard.  I would 
remove everything you can, all add-on cards etc.  Just leave a video 
card, unless video is on the motherboard.  I would disconnect all the 
drives too.  The idea is to remove everything, so you can check just the 
motherboard alone.  If the motherboard still won't power on, remove and 
reseat the RAM.  If it still won't power up, remove and re-seat the CPU.


I would guess something inside the case was moved around enough in your 
move to cause the short.


-Derek

Agree. The symptoms, fans starting and almost immediately stopping, say 
the power supply is starting, detecting a short and shutting down. If 
the video card is AGP double check it is properly seated, I've had that 
same result several times particularly with AGP cards lifting very 
slightly at the inboard end.


Chris
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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
hi guys,
   just take every part out and dust with a brush, reseat the m-board
and hook on the power supply, switch on the power and both fans spin
for quite a while, seeing this, I switch it off and start to connect
all the cables. After all is done, i turn on the power again, and this
time it stop again after a short spin. and I looked everywhere on the
board and found some silverish dust on the board, i dust it away, but
this time, the fans and the LED light on the board never spin or lit
up when i switch it on, i wonder if something i did kill the power
this time, any idea?? thank you for your help.

TFC

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Chris Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Derek Ragona wrote:
> > At 08:06 AM 2/25/2008, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>this is really not about freebsd per sa. But this is the only
> >> computer-related forum I use. so please forgive me.
> >> my desktop  was relocated due to my recent moving to a new
> >> apartment. After settling down at the new place, I plug in the cables
> >> and the computer won't start up. I open the case and found out that
> >> when i switched on the power supply from the back, the power fan and
> >> cpu fan will spin for a split second then stop. I tried to debug by
> >> unplugging the cables, when doing so, sometimes the fans will spin for
> >> 10 seconds, maybe, but most of the time, it just stopped right after
> >> the power switched on. I also try to hold down the start button on the
> >> front for a while, but no good. I was told the mother board maybe
> >> short-circuit. can anyone give a second opinion?? thanks!!
> >>
> >> TFC
> >
> > It sounds like you have something shorting out the motherboard.  I would
> > remove everything you can, all add-on cards etc.  Just leave a video
> > card, unless video is on the motherboard.  I would disconnect all the
> > drives too.  The idea is to remove everything, so you can check just the
> > motherboard alone.  If the motherboard still won't power on, remove and
> > reseat the RAM.  If it still won't power up, remove and re-seat the CPU.
> >
> > I would guess something inside the case was moved around enough in your
> > move to cause the short.
> >
> > -Derek
> >
> Agree. The symptoms, fans starting and almost immediately stopping, say
> the power supply is starting, detecting a short and shutting down. If
> the video card is AGP double check it is properly seated, I've had that
> same result several times particularly with AGP cards lifting very
> slightly at the inboard end.
>
> Chris
>
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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-25 Thread Da Rock
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 20:38 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
> hi guys,
>just take every part out and dust with a brush, reseat the m-board
> and hook on the power supply, switch on the power and both fans spin
> for quite a while, seeing this, I switch it off and start to connect
> all the cables. After all is done, i turn on the power again, and this
> time it stop again after a short spin. and I looked everywhere on the
> board and found some silverish dust on the board, i dust it away, but
> this time, the fans and the LED light on the board never spin or lit
> up when i switch it on, i wonder if something i did kill the power
> this time, any idea?? thank you for your help.
> 
> TFC
> 

Looks like that little bit of dust was making the system still seem like
its alive. I'd say its well and truely dead now- what do you reckon
guys?

New M/B and CPU...

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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-26 Thread D G Teed
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 20:38 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
>  > hi guys,
>  >just take every part out and dust with a brush, reseat the m-board
>  > and hook on the power supply, switch on the power and both fans spin
>  > for quite a while, seeing this, I switch it off and start to connect
>  > all the cables. After all is done, i turn on the power again, and this
>  > time it stop again after a short spin. and I looked everywhere on the
>  > board and found some silverish dust on the board, i dust it away, but
>  > this time, the fans and the LED light on the board never spin or lit
>  > up when i switch it on, i wonder if something i did kill the power
>  > this time, any idea?? thank you for your help.
>  >
>  > TFC
>  >
>
>  Looks like that little bit of dust was making the system still seem like
>  its alive. I'd say its well and truely dead now- what do you reckon
>  guys?
>
>  New M/B and CPU...

You are suggesting to replace the MB and CPU?

By the same logic, if a light bulb burns out, replace the wiring in your house.
That is inappropriate.

Power supplies burn out all the time.  Replace the power supply.
The big clue is when the power supply can't spin it's own fan.
Has nothing to do with the rest of the system.

--Donald
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RE: hardware problem

2008-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D G Teed
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:22 AM
> To: DAve
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: hardware problem
> 
> 
> Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
> the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a power supply
> problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these days and can't
> handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations. 

My experience has not been that the power supplies can't handle the
electrical grid.

What I've mostly seen is that the power supply FANS get dust in them,
the fans slow down or stop, airflow through the supply drops, and
then the supply overheats.  Once it overheats, the supply will never
be reliable again and must be thrown out.

Turning off a computer for a while that has an overheated power
supply is a surefire way to have the supply never restart again.

Ted
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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 08:38:09PM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
>
> hi guys,
>just take every part out and dust with a brush, reseat the m-board
> and hook on the power supply, switch on the power and both fans spin
> for quite a while, seeing this, I switch it off and start to connect
> all the cables. After all is done, i turn on the power again, and this
> time it stop again after a short spin. and I looked everywhere on the
> board and found some silverish dust on the board, i dust it away, but
> this time, the fans and the LED light on the board never spin or lit
> up when i switch it on, i wonder if something i did kill the power
> this time, any idea?? thank you for your help.
> 
> TFC
> 

Having been round the houses with my new build which displayed similar
problems, I would say that what is most likely is that it is a power
supply problem.

There was a shaky attachment somewhere which loosened when you moved
and finally gave up the ghost.

Your best approach, is to get a new power supply or case with power
supply depending on how old your case is.

If that doesn't work, then it's probably your motherboard and unless
your CPU is quite new and you can extract it, you'll probably be
looking at new CPU and RAM also ie. expensive.

If you want to get a new case, then have a look at an Antec Sonata
III. It's quiet, comes with all the bits you need and has USB ports
and e-SATA on the front. Cost me about 75GBP. 500W power supply which
is a bit excessive for my needs though.

Best of luck!

-- 

 Frank 


 Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html 

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Re: hardware problem

2008-02-27 Thread D G Teed
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D G Teed
>  > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:22 AM
>  > To: DAve
>  > Cc: FreeBSD Questions
>  > Subject: Re: hardware problem
>  >
>  >
>  > Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
>  > the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a power supply
>  > problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these days and can't
>  > handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations.
>
>  My experience has not been that the power supplies can't handle the
>  electrical grid.
>
>  What I've mostly seen is that the power supply FANS get dust in them,
>  the fans slow down or stop, airflow through the supply drops, and
>  then the supply overheats.  Once it overheats, the supply will never
>  be reliable again and must be thrown out.

I've been able to routinely clean out the dust with canned air, and
they still die more frequently than say motherboards.  Even quality
brands like Antec.  I often replace the fan if it is showing signs
of noise from bearing getting burned out.  I'm speaking mainly
of home and small office PCs.  This is something that won't
happen as much in a server room since the air is cleaner, but
I'd guess the O.P. wasn't in that environment since he is wasting
3 days before trying another power supply.

Power supplies do have a limit of life related to the quality
of your electricity (and excessive heat). I can recall the bad
electrolyte scandle with several motherboard brands 5 years ago.
The explanation of the shortened capacitor lifespan due to the
electrolyte missing an ingredient was a bit of an education
into what capacitors do.  They do have a limited lifespan
related to heat and the number of hours they are exposed to a high
ripple current.

Here is an excellent wikipedia entry on capacitor plague
which will explain it in layman's terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

If you have not read about this before, it may be an eye opener.

--Donald
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RE: hardware problem

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D G Teed
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:54 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: DAve; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: hardware problem
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  > -Original Message-
> >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of D G Teed
> >  > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:22 AM
> >  > To: DAve
> >  > Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> >  > Subject: Re: hardware problem
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Every system I've seen with his description of the problem, where
> >  > the power supply can't even run it's own fan, is having a 
> power supply
> >  > problem.  Power supplies are very often low quality these 
> days and can't
> >  > handle the stresses of typical electrical grid fluctuations.
> >
> >  My experience has not been that the power supplies can't handle the
> >  electrical grid.
> >
> >  What I've mostly seen is that the power supply FANS get dust in them,
> >  the fans slow down or stop, airflow through the supply drops, and
> >  then the supply overheats.  Once it overheats, the supply will never
> >  be reliable again and must be thrown out.
> 
> I've been able to routinely clean out the dust with canned air, and
> they still die more frequently than say motherboards.  Even quality
> brands like Antec.  I often replace the fan if it is showing signs
> of noise from bearing getting burned out.  I'm speaking mainly
> of home and small office PCs.  This is something that won't
> happen as much in a server room since the air is cleaner, but
> I'd guess the O.P. wasn't in that environment since he is wasting
> 3 days before trying another power supply.
> 
> Power supplies do have a limit of life related to the quality
> of your electricity 

Not the good ones.  Seriously.

I run a NOC that has a 50kva natural gas fired generator.  Every Tue.
the generator is tested for 1/2 hour (basically we put the entire
NOC on generator power for 1/2 hour)  There is an automatic
transfer switch that switches the entire NOC, under load, including
the HVAC unit, onto generator power for 1/2 hour then switches it
back to mains power.  There is NO feedback circuit that syncs
the sinewave from the generator with mains power.  As you can
imagine the switch is tremendously disruptive.  All of the UPSs
in the place squawk and switch into UPS power for a couple minutes.
All of the UPSes in the place are cut-in types.

So far we have only had 1 system lose power supplies on a
regular basis, and this was a brand new, very expensive, HP
server.  (on UPSes of course) HP's replaced at least 8 power
supplies in it under warranty.

None of the others, including some of the most motley customer-owned
clone equipment you might imagine, have suffered power supply failure.

The HVAC unit of course heavily filters the air so there is
no dust so to speak.  I can pull the cover off 3 year old
servers and the interior is as pristine as when they are new.
And we keep the temp around 68 degrees.

Please keep in mind most computer power supples nowadays
are auto-switching and will run on anything from 110-220v.

It is NOT dirty power that does them in.  It is dust.  And
heat, as you said.  Overloading a supply will kill it also
- very few (retail) power supplies on the market will run
close to their rated power output for any length of time.

Today, the biggest problem I see is people demanding these
minitower systems, getting these tiny small cases and
stuffing them full of hard and optical drives.  There's 
dead air spaces throughout the layout, and small, low-volume
"quiet" fans.

Hard drives also suffer as a result of this.  A disk with
good cooling can last many years.  But few computers other
than server gear provide it to the drive bays.

>I can recall the bad
> electrolyte scandle with several motherboard brands 5 years ago.
> The explanation of the shortened capacitor lifespan due to the
> electrolyte missing an ingredient was a bit of an education
> into what capacitors do.  They do have a limited lifespan
> related to heat and the number of hours they are exposed to a high
> ripple current.
> 
> Here is an excellent wikipedia entry on capacitor plague
> which will explain it in layman's terms.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
> 
> If you have not read about this before, it may be an eye opener.
> 

I know all about that.  I also own several TV sets that date from
late, late 60's early 70's and still work.  Electrolytic capacitors
h

Re: SCSI Hardware problem?

2005-01-06 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:18:04 -0700, Tom Vilot wrote
> This looks to me like I've got a hardware problem. SCSI drive 0:4:0 -
> - or is this perhaps something else?
> 
> I had to manually type this in ... :) copying it off the screen 
> since I don't see this stuff in a log anywhere.
> 
> FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual 450MHz Xeon with SCSI and IDE. GENERIC kernel.
> 
> There was stuff above this, but it had scrolled off the screen and 
> the console was locked up.
> 
> da1 (scsi 4 on bus 0) is my boot drive.
> 
> ---
> 
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCB 0x3 - timed out
> 
> sg[0] - Addr 0x2574b000
> 
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): no longer in timeout, status = 24a
> ahc1: Timedout SCBs already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning.
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a, 0 0 47 49 23 0 0 4 0
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,1
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Power on occurred
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Retrying Command (per sense Data)
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a, 0 0 47 49 23 0 0 4 0
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM  Status: Check Condition
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,1
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Power on occurred
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Retries Exhausted
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): lost device
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): invalidating pack
> panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started
> Uptime: 3d12h50m3s

Make sure your SCSI controller is supported by the driver you're using. If it 
is, it's probably a faulty disk.

> 
> ---
> 
> I'm guessing I will want to copy this entire drive over to another 
> one. What's the best way  dd?

Doesn't matter too much AFAIK. As long as you can access the disk properly.

> 
> Oh, one other question ...
> 
> I'm used to runlevels on Linux. When I reset this machine, I'm 
> presented with the prompt asking me for the default shell (/bin/sh). 
> I hit enter, and I'm in sh where I can fsck the other drives and 
> mount them. Cool. But once I have done that, how do I tell BSD 
> to basically "continue" where it left off (i.e. run /etc/netstart 
> sshd, httpd, psqld, zope, etc) without manually invoking each of 
> those items?

I assume you boot in single user mode. I would just reboot the machine again 
and boot normally (multi-user mode) after you're finished with fsck and stuff.

Cheers,

Jorn

> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: SCSI Hardware problem?

2005-01-06 Thread Glenn Dawson
At 02:30 PM 1/6/2005, Jorn Argelo wrote:
>
> Oh, one other question ...
>
> I'm used to runlevels on Linux. When I reset this machine, I'm
> presented with the prompt asking me for the default shell (/bin/sh).
> I hit enter, and I'm in sh where I can fsck the other drives and
> mount them. Cool. But once I have done that, how do I tell BSD
> to basically "continue" where it left off (i.e. run /etc/netstart
> sshd, httpd, psqld, zope, etc) without manually invoking each of
> those items?
I assume you boot in single user mode. I would just reboot the machine again
and boot normally (multi-user mode) after you're finished with fsck and stuff.
Or you could just exit the shell and the system will continue to boot into 
multi-user mode.

-Glenn
Cheers,
Jorn
> Thanks in advance.
>

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Re: SCSI Hardware problem?

2005-01-06 Thread Tom Vilot
Glenn Dawson wrote:
Or you could just exit the shell and the system will continue to boot 
into multi-user mode. 

(( sigh ))
It's always so much simpler than you think it is at first glance .
Thanks.
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RE: SCSI Hardware problem?

2005-01-06 Thread Subhro



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Vilot
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:48
> To: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: SCSI Hardware problem?
> 
> This looks to me like I've got a hardware problem. SCSI drive 0:4:0 --
> or is this perhaps something else?
> 
> I had to manually type this in ... :) copying it off the screen since I
> don't see this stuff in a log anywhere.
> 
> FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual 450MHz Xeon with SCSI and IDE. GENERIC kernel.
> 
> There was stuff above this, but it had scrolled off the screen and the
> console was locked up.
> 
> da1 (scsi 4 on bus 0) is my boot drive.
> 
> ---
> 
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCB 0x3 - timed out
> 
> sg[0] - Addr 0x2574b000
> 
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): no longer in timeout, status = 24a
> ahc1: Timedout SCBs already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning.
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a, 0 0 47 49 23 0 0 4 0
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,1
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Power on occurred
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Retrying Command (per sense Data)
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a, 0 0 47 49 23 0 0 4 0
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): CAM  Status: Check Condition
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,1
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Power on occurred
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): Retries Exhausted
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): lost device
> (da1:ahc1:0:4:0): invalidating pack
> panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started
> Uptime: 3d12h50m3s

Is the SCSI bus terminated properly. Changing LUNs help?


> 
> ---
> 
> I'm guessing I will want to copy this entire drive over to another one.
> What's the best way  dd?

dd works only and only if the source drive and the target drive are *exact*
clones of each other, which is not something seen very frequently. Why don't
you use dump?

> 
> Oh, one other question ...
> 
> I'm used to runlevels on Linux. When I reset this machine, I'm presented
> with the prompt asking me for the default shell (/bin/sh). I hit enter,
> and I'm in sh where I can fsck the other drives and mount them. Cool.
> But once I have done that, how do I tell BSD to basically "continue"
> where it left off (i.e. run /etc/netstart sshd, httpd, psqld, zope, etc)
> without manually invoking each of those items?

Ctrl+D

> Thanks in advance.

Welcome :-)

Regards
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
India


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Hardware Problem - FreeBSD 6.2

2007-03-01 Thread Rômulo Lima
Hi, 

Good morning, my name is Rômulo Lima, I had a problem when make an upgrade in 
my Freebsd Server from version 6.1 to 6.2. Before upgrade my SATA disc 
controller was working normally:

atapci1:  port 
0xec00-0xec0f,0xe480-0xe487,0xe400-0xe40f,0xe080-0xe087,0xe000-0xe01f mem 
0xd800-0xdbff irq 21 at device 31.1 on pci0
ad4: 78167MB  at ata2-master SATA150

 But after upgrade I got the following error, and my SATA disc stops, after 
that I proceeded with a downgrade and may Server work fine again. 

atapci1: AHCI controller reset failure
device_attach: atapci1 attach returned 6

I search a solution on some mail lists, but I still have no solution to this 
problem, if anyone can help me I will thank very much!

Best Regards,

Rômulo Lima
Tech Manager
Wavenet
www.wavenet.com.br
(55)(71) 3177-6150
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Re0 driver or hardware problem?

2010-11-02 Thread Gabor Radnai
Hi,

I have an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with integrated Nvidia MCP51 Gigabit
Ethernet NIC and
TP-Link TG-3468 PCIe network card which is basically using Realtek chip.

I have several problems:

1. There is a boot time menu for tp-link card which says it is a 8111b/8111c
but re driver supports
RTL8139C+, RTL8169, RTL8169S, RTL8110S, RTL8168S, RTL8111S and RTL8101E. Is
it correct using the re driver?
2. The Nvidia network interface is working properly but the other though it
seems recognized by OS I cannot use.
Sporadically it remains down and if it gets up then does not get ip address
via DHCP nor help if I set static ip address.
Can manipulate via ifconfig but unreachable via IP.

I replaced cable, interchanged cable working with Nvidia, restarted
switch/router but no luck so far.

And advise please?

Thanks,
Gabor

uname -v
FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0 r210200M: Wed Jul 21 14:21:18 CEST 2010
r...@neo.vx.sk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

pciconf:
n...@pci0:0:20:0:class=0x068000 card=0x816a1043 chip=0x026910de rev=0xa3
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation'
device = 'MCP51 Network Bus Enumerator'
class  = bridge
r...@pci0:1:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x816810ec chip=0x816810ec rev=0x01
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'Gigabit Ethernet NIC(NDIS 6.0) (RTL8168/8111/8111c)'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

rc.conf:
ifconfig_nfe0="inet 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="192.168.0.1"
hostname="xxx"
ifconfig_re0="DHCP"

dmesg:
nfe0:  port 0xc800-0xc807 mem
0xfe02b000-0xfe02bfff irq 21 at device 20.0 on pci0
miibus1:  on nfe0
e1000phy0:  PHY 19 on miibus1
e1000phy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-FDX, auto
nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:92:38:dc:95
nfe0: [FILTER]
re0:  port
0xac00-0xacff mem 0xfdbff000-0xfdbf irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
re0: Using 1 MSI messages
re0: Chip rev. 0x3800
re0: MAC rev. 0x
miibus0:  on re0
rgephy0:  PHY 1 on miibus0
rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-FDX, auto
re0: Ethernet address: d8:5d:4c:80:b4:88
re0: [FILTER]
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Re0 driver or hardware problem?

2010-11-03 Thread Gabor Radnai
Oh, and forgot to mention:
- the tp-link card in another Windows PC is working nicely
- booting from Ubuntu Live CD on the same machine where FreeBSD is installed
- the tp-link card is working, get an IP address via DHCP

Gabor
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Server compilation or hardware problem?!

2005-10-10 Thread arunas . tamulevicius
Hello,

I would like to ask some questions. I have the intranet system on my
computer which is running freeBSD. But functionality of the system is
quite slow. So I don't know what is wrong. My server contains 1GHZ
procesor and 256+128RAM. Is it enough? System is used aproximately 300
users. I can define that every time maybe 5-8 users are log in. So the
problem is in the compilation or in hardware?

Thank you very much.


Yours truly.
Arunas Tamulevicius
IT specialist
"Gintarine grupe"
Baublio g. 2, Vilnius
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Re: Hardware Problem - FreeBSD 6.2

2007-03-01 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 01 March 2007 16:10, Rômulo Lima wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Good morning, my name is Rômulo Lima, I had a problem when make an upgrade 
in my Freebsd Server from version 6.1 to 6.2. Before upgrade my SATA disc 
controller was working normally:
> 
> atapci1:  port 
0xec00-0xec0f,0xe480-0xe487,0xe400-0xe40f,0xe080-0xe087,0xe000-0xe01f mem 
0xd800-0xdbff irq 21 at device 31.1 on pci0
> ad4: 78167MB  at ata2-master SATA150
> 
>  But after upgrade I got the following error, and my SATA disc stops, after 
that I proceeded with a downgrade and may Server work fine again. 
> 
> atapci1: AHCI controller reset failure
> device_attach: atapci1 attach returned 6
> 
> I search a solution on some mail lists, but I still have no solution to this 
problem, if anyone can help me I will thank very much!
> 

Hello Romulo,

Check this message and the relevant thread: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-January/011256.html

If that's not your case, please post a message to stable@ with
an appropriate subject(SATA: AHCI controller reset failure for
example) to catch some attention.

Nikos
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How to diagnose hardware problem?

2009-04-13 Thread John Almberg
I have what looks like a hardware problem with an Intel 1U server,  
which I am using mainly as a mysql database server for some of my  
bigger website clients.


The server went down last week with a badly corrupted file system.

After spending a day trying to fix the file system, we gave up and  
did a fresh install of FreeBSD, PF, and mysql, using our daily  
backups to restore the database. It all seemed to work fine until I  
switched the websites from the temporary database server that I had  
been using, onto the restored server.


The database ran well for about 2 minutes, then the server crashed  
again. The filesystem was again corrupted so badly that we could not  
even log in to look at the logs.


We've reinstalled FreeBSD again, just to be able to SSH into the box.  
It looks like there is probably a hardware problem, like a bad power  
supply or overheating CPU that fails when the load of the database is  
applied.


Problem is, I have no idea how to determine which bits are failing.  
Can anyone suggest a favorite book or website that focuses on how to  
troubleshoot hardware issues?


Thanks: John

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Re: Server compilation or hardware problem?!

2005-10-11 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I would like to ask some questions. I have the intranet system on my
> computer which is running freeBSD. But functionality of the system is
> quite slow. So I don't know what is wrong. My server contains 1GHZ
> procesor and 256+128RAM. Is it enough? System is used aproximately 300
> users. I can define that every time maybe 5-8 users are log in. So the
> problem is in the compilation or in hardware?

You need to be more precise about what is happening, how you are
measuring slowness, what the load average is doing, and so on.

If half-a-dozen users are doing number-crunching simultaneously, I
wouldn't be surprised that the system is slow.
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Re: How to diagnose hardware problem?

2009-04-13 Thread John Almberg


First things first; if the machine is still in warranty, don't mess  
with

it but send it back to the manufacturer and demand a replacement.


It is in warranty and I am following their process. I'm hoping to  
short-circuit that process by finding the problem on my own, if  
possible. Plus, I've never really had to deal with a hardware failure  
before, so it's a good learning process.




If the machine is out of warranty, you might consider replacing it
altogether. My employer's IT department ditches PC's and servers at  
the first
failure after the warranty runs out. Accordinf to them it's cheaper  
than

repairing them.


But if you want to have a go, this might help:
http://www.daileyint.com/hmdpc/manual.htm

Basically, it's just a problem of elimination.

First check if your machine is the only one having problems at the
hosting site. Maybe they have unstable electrical power.

Then make sure that all expansion cards and RAM are well-seated, and
that all connectors are OK. Also check that there is no dust build- 
up on

e.g. fans and heatsinks. If necessary, clean carefully with (dry, oil
free) compressed air. Dust can lead to short circuits or reduced
cooling. Next, look for capacitors that have leaked fluid, or have
bulging metal end plates on the motherboard; those are dead or
dying. It's a leading cause of motherboard failure. It is possible to
replace them, but you'll need the right equipment:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fixing-motherboard,1606.html

Install a monitoring program like mbmon or healthd, and have it log to
another machine or a USB stick mounted syncronously. Monitor CPU
temperature, fan speeds and the different voltages. Not all power
supplies are created equally. See the articles at tom's hardware:
  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Components,1/Power-Supplies,6/

If you've found nothing so far, it's time to start swapping out
components, starting with the power supply.


This is all good stuff to try. Thanks.

-- John

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Fwd: How to diagnose hardware problem?

2009-04-13 Thread John Almberg

On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:



The database ran well for about 2 minutes, then the server crashed  
again. The filesystem was again corrupted so badly that we could  
not even log in to look at the logs.


did memtest? it looks like it's fine until you stress your hardware


I didn't, but I just installed it and am running it at the moment. So  
far, so good.


The machine has 1G of memory, but I could not get an mlock unless I  
request 100 Meg or less. That is, I need to run something like:


# memtest 100

Does this sound right? If I run with 125 Meg, I get the following:

# memtest 125
memtester version 4.0.8 (64-bit)
Copyright (C) 2007 Charles Cazabon.
Licensed under the GNU General Public License version 2 (only).

pagesize is 4096
pagesizemask is 0xf000
want 125MB (131072000 bytes)
got  125MB (131072000 bytes), trying mlock ...failed for unknown reason.
Continuing with unlocked memory; testing will be slower and less  
reliable.

Loop 1:
  Stuck Address   : ok
  Random Value: ok
  Compare XOR : ok
  Compare SUB : ok
  Compare MUL : ok
etc...


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Re: How to diagnose hardware problem?

2009-04-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar


The database ran well for about 2 minutes, then the server crashed again. The 
filesystem was again corrupted so badly that we could not even log in to look 
at the logs.


did memtest? it looks like it's fine until you stress your hardware



We've reinstalled FreeBSD again, just to be able to SSH into the box. It 
looks like there is probably a hardware problem, like a bad power supply or 
overheating CPU that fails when the load of the database is applied.


Problem is, I have no idea how to determine which bits are failing. Can 
anyone suggest a favorite book or website that focuses on how to troubleshoot 
hardware issues?


Thanks: John

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Re: How to diagnose hardware problem?

2009-04-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:07:25PM -0400, John Almberg wrote:
> I have what looks like a hardware problem with an Intel 1U server,  
> which I am using mainly as a mysql database server for some of my  
> bigger website clients.
> 
> The server went down last week with a badly corrupted file system.
> 
> After spending a day trying to fix the file system, we gave up and  
> did a fresh install of FreeBSD, PF, and mysql, using our daily  
> backups to restore the database. It all seemed to work fine until I  
> switched the websites from the temporary database server that I had  
> been using, onto the restored server.
> 
> The database ran well for about 2 minutes, then the server crashed  
> again. The filesystem was again corrupted so badly that we could not  
> even log in to look at the logs.
> 
> We've reinstalled FreeBSD again, just to be able to SSH into the box.  
> It looks like there is probably a hardware problem, like a bad power  
> supply or overheating CPU that fails when the load of the database is  
> applied.
> 
> Problem is, I have no idea how to determine which bits are failing.  
> Can anyone suggest a favorite book or website that focuses on how to  
> troubleshoot hardware issues?

First things first; if the machine is still in warranty, don't mess with
it but send it back to the manufacturer and demand a replacement.

If the machine is out of warranty, you might consider replacing it
altogether. My employer's IT department ditches PC's and servers at the first
failure after the warranty runs out. Accordinf to them it's cheaper than
repairing them.


But if you want to have a go, this might help:
http://www.daileyint.com/hmdpc/manual.htm 

Basically, it's just a problem of elimination.

First check if your machine is the only one having problems at the
hosting site. Maybe they have unstable electrical power.

Then make sure that all expansion cards and RAM are well-seated, and
that all connectors are OK. Also check that there is no dust build-up on
e.g. fans and heatsinks. If necessary, clean carefully with (dry, oil
free) compressed air. Dust can lead to short circuits or reduced
cooling. Next, look for capacitors that have leaked fluid, or have
bulging metal end plates on the motherboard; those are dead or
dying. It's a leading cause of motherboard failure. It is possible to
replace them, but you'll need the right equipment:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fixing-motherboard,1606.html

Install a monitoring program like mbmon or healthd, and have it log to
another machine or a USB stick mounted syncronously. Monitor CPU
temperature, fan speeds and the different voltages. Not all power
supplies are created equally. See the articles at tom's hardware:
  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Components,1/Power-Supplies,6/ 

If you've found nothing so far, it's time to start swapping out
components, starting with the power supply.


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Re: How to diagnose hardware problem?

2009-04-14 Thread Graham Bentley

The first two utils I run if I suspect hardware issues
both independant of resident os ;
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/technolo/dft/dft.htm
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freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem?

2010-07-22 Thread Antonio Kless
Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system.

# uname -a
FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21
15:02:08 UTC 2009 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
amd64

# freecolor -V
freecolor version 0.8.8

# freecolor
Bus error


I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of error:

# freecolor
Bus error: 10


Is it software or hardware problem?

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Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem?

2010-07-22 Thread Randy Belk
Have you updated your ports? This was an issue on the amd64 distribution,
but it was fixed.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Kless wrote:

> Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system.
>
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21
> 15:02:08 UTC 2009 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:
> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
>
> # freecolor -V
> freecolor version 0.8.8
>
> # freecolor
> Bus error
>
>
> I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of error:
>
> # freecolor
> Bus error: 10
>
>
> Is it software or hardware problem?
>
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Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem?

2010-07-22 Thread Antonio Kless
2010/7/23 Randy Belk 

> Have you updated your ports? This was an issue on the amd64 distribution,
> but it was fixed.
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Kless wrote:
>
>> Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system.
>>
>> # uname -a
>> FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21
>> 15:02:08 UTC 2009 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:
>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>> amd64
>>
>> # freecolor -V
>> freecolor version 0.8.8
>>
>> # freecolor
>> Bus error
>>
>>
>> I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of
>> error:
>>
>> # freecolor
>> Bus error: 10
>>
>>
>> Is it software or hardware problem?
>>
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>> http://kless.spb.ru/
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Yes, I run
# portsnap fetch update
just about 1 hour ago.

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Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem?

2010-07-22 Thread Antonio Kless
2010/7/23 Antonio Kless 

>
>
> 2010/7/23 Randy Belk 
>
> Have you updated your ports? This was an issue on the amd64 distribution,
>> but it was fixed.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Antonio Kless wrote:
>>
>>> Strange freecolor behavior on fresh 8.0-RELEASE system.
>>>
>>> # uname -a
>>> FreeBSD alternate-1.net 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21
>>> 15:02:08 UTC 2009 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:
>>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>>> amd64
>>>
>>> # freecolor -V
>>> freecolor version 0.8.8
>>>
>>> # freecolor
>>> Bus error
>>>
>>>
>>> I have reinstall 7.3-RELEASE on this server, and get another look of
>>> error:
>>>
>>> # freecolor
>>> Bus error: 10
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it software or hardware problem?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Antonio Kless,
>>> http://kless.spb.ru/
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>
>
> Yes, I run
> # portsnap fetch update
> just about 1 hour ago.
>
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...run it before I install freecolor port, of course.

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Re: freecolor: Bus error. software or hardware problem?

2010-07-24 Thread Antonio Kless
So, is it port trouble?


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