ASUS U46E laptop brightness

2013-09-28 Thread Sergiy Mikhailushko

Hi all
Could you please help me with a little annoying problem concerning 
laptop backlight?
I've got ASUS U46E laptop running FreeBSD 9-STABLE amd64. The problem is 
that backlight is always set to maximum value. Pressing Fn+F5 
(brightness down) has no effect, just yielding the following to 
/var/log/messages:


ACPI Error: Result stack is empty! State=0xfe00017fa800 
(20110527/dswstate-113)
ACPI Exception: AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE, Missing or null operand 
(20110527/dsutils-695)
ACPI Exception: AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE, While creating Arg 0 
(20110527/dsutils-821)
ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.GCBL] (Node 
0xfe000181f600), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE (20110527/psparse-560)


What I've tried:

1) Flashed the latest BIOS version from ASUS website (ver301)

2) Upgraded OS to the latest STABLE version (last upgrade Aug 30 2013)

3) Loading acpi_asus module:
# kldload acpi_asus
# sysctl -a | grep asus
#

4) Loading acpi_video module:
   # sysctl hw.acpi.video.lcd0.active=1
hw.acpi.video.lcd0.active: 0 - 0
# sysctl hw.acpi.video.lcd0.fullpower=60
hw.acpi.video.lcd0.fullpower: 100 - 60
# sysctl hw.acpi.video.lcd0.economy=60
hw.acpi.video.lcd0.economy: 77 - 60
# sysctl hw.acpi.video.lcd0.brightness=60
hw.acpi.video.lcd0.brightness: 60 - 60
Values are changed but brightness doesn't

5) Using acpi_call utility (not sure what value should be changed, tried 
acpi_call -p '\_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.GCBL' and acpi_call -p 
'\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_._Q0E' -- both resulting in Unknown object type '0')


# uname -a
FreeBSD toysrv 9.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-PRERELEASE #2 r255810: Fri Sep 
27 14:27:49 EEST 2013 oomka@toysrv:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TOYSRV  amd64


# acpidump -dt  u46e.asl
[gzipped file attached]

I used to run i386 FreeBSD on this laptop -- the brightness control was 
okay on it. There were often kernel panics on that architecture so I've 
switched to amd64. Panics disappeared and the things work fine so far, 
except the screen brightness.
I know that my problem isn't critical when I'm working on daylight or 
with external LCD display, but when I have to work at the laptop at 
night -- this spotlight really drives me crazy. Thank you in advance for 
your help.
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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-17 Thread Matthias Petermann

Am 17.08.2013 03:22, schrieb Polytropon:

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:07:25 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:

What keyboard / laptop has the key code '150' map to 'go to sleep' ?

My Sun Type 7 USB keyboard has the Copy key at code 150... :-)



In my case it is a Lenovo X121e.

Regards,
Matthias
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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-17 Thread Matthias Petermann
At the moment it is not clear to me at which layer the issue is  
originated. In fact the acpi_ibm module doesn't work completely for  
the Lenovo X121e (brightness control with Fn+F8/F7 nonfunctional), so  
the issue might be related to this. I shall file a PR during the day.


Kind regards,
Matthias


Zitat von Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org:


Right, but this sounds like some bug to send upstream. Or at least patch in
our port(s) for this stuff.

What keyboard / laptop has the key code '150' map to 'go to sleep' ?



-adiran


On 16 August 2013 17:09, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org wrote:


 Hi,

a short update on this. I just found out: at least in Gnome 2 the behavior
can be prevented by using the gconf-settings tool, changing the value of
the key /apps/gnome-power-manager/buttons/suspend from suspend to
nothing. Seems like some ubuntu users had the same issue as I found the
workaround there.

Kind regards,
Matthias


Am 16.08.2013 08:44, schrieb Adrian Chadd:

Hi!

 I'm glad someone else is seeing this!

 I have the same behaviour with KDE4 on my T60 and T400. If I go to run
amiwm (because hey, Workbench is awesome!) it doesn't happen.

 .. and bah, I wish the resume worked for you. It works fine for me on
T42i, T60, T400.



 -adrian



On 15 August 2013 23:32, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org wrote:



Hello,

I have a Lenovo X121e running Current with X and the Gnome desktop.
Beside other issues[1] there is a strange behavior of Gnome-Desktop (and
GDM too). When I press Fn without any additional key, the device
immediately goes to sleep. As the X121e cannot resume properly from sleep,
this forces me to reboot.

This problem appears to be only exist when using Gnome / GDM.
Pure X with TWM doesn't have this issue.

I already tried to re-map the Fn key (I found in some mailing this might
have the keycode 150) to a less dangerous key:
$ xmodmap -e keycode 150 = Delete
this brought no change.

Has anyone an idea if Gnome re-maps the keys in some way or how I can
disable this? At the moment this is the only blocker to use this Laptop for
daily work, as I tend to accidently touch the Fn key more often than I want
to reboot ;-)

Thanks in advance  kind regards,
Matthias


[1]
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Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Matthias Petermann


Hello,

I have a Lenovo X121e running Current with X and the Gnome desktop. 
Beside other issues[1] there is a strange behavior of Gnome-Desktop (and 
GDM too). When I press Fn without any additional key, the device 
immediately goes to sleep. As the X121e cannot resume properly from 
sleep, this forces me to reboot.


This problem appears to be only exist when using Gnome / GDM.
Pure X with TWM doesn't have this issue.

I already tried to re-map the Fn key (I found in some mailing this might 
have the keycode 150) to a less dangerous key:

$ xmodmap -e keycode 150 = Delete
this brought no change.

Has anyone an idea if Gnome re-maps the keys in some way or how I can 
disable this? At the moment this is the only blocker to use this Laptop 
for daily work, as I tend to accidently touch the Fn key more often than 
I want to reboot ;-)


Thanks in advance  kind regards,
Matthias


[1] 
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=544740+551865+/usr/local/www/db/text/2013/freebsd-current/20130707.freebsd-current

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Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Matthias Petermann


Hello,

I have a Lenovo X121e running Current with X and the Gnome desktop. 
Beside other issues[1] there is a strange behavior of Gnome-Desktop (and 
GDM too). When I press Fn without any additional key, the device 
immediately goes to sleep. As the X121e cannot resume properly from 
sleep, this forces me to reboot.


This problem appears to be only exist when using Gnome / GDM.
Pure X with TWM doesn't have this issue.

I already tried to re-map the Fn key (I found in some mailing this might 
have the keycode 150) to a less dangerous key:

$ xmodmap -e keycode 150 = Delete
this brought no change.

Has anyone an idea if Gnome re-maps the keys in some way or how I can 
disable this? At the moment this is the only blocker to use this Laptop 
for daily work, as I tend to accidently touch the Fn key more often than 
I want to reboot ;-)


Thanks in advance  kind regards,
Matthias


[1] 
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=544740+551865+/usr/local/www/db/text/2013/freebsd-current/20130707.freebsd-current

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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi!

I'm glad someone else is seeing this!

I have the same behaviour with KDE4 on my T60 and T400. If I go to run
amiwm (because hey, Workbench is awesome!) it doesn't happen.

.. and bah, I wish the resume worked for you. It works fine for me on T42i,
T60, T400.



-adrian



On 15 August 2013 23:32, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org wrote:


 Hello,

 I have a Lenovo X121e running Current with X and the Gnome desktop. Beside
 other issues[1] there is a strange behavior of Gnome-Desktop (and GDM too).
 When I press Fn without any additional key, the device immediately goes
 to sleep. As the X121e cannot resume properly from sleep, this forces me to
 reboot.

 This problem appears to be only exist when using Gnome / GDM.
 Pure X with TWM doesn't have this issue.

 I already tried to re-map the Fn key (I found in some mailing this might
 have the keycode 150) to a less dangerous key:
 $ xmodmap -e keycode 150 = Delete
 this brought no change.

 Has anyone an idea if Gnome re-maps the keys in some way or how I can
 disable this? At the moment this is the only blocker to use this Laptop for
 daily work, as I tend to accidently touch the Fn key more often than I want
 to reboot ;-)

 Thanks in advance  kind regards,
 Matthias


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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Matthias Petermann

Hi Adrian,

Zitat von Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org:


Hi!

I'm glad someone else is seeing this!

I have the same behaviour with KDE4 on my T60 and T400. If I go to run
amiwm (because hey, Workbench is awesome!) it doesn't happen.

.. and bah, I wish the resume worked for you. It works fine for me on T42i,
T60, T400.


Thanks for your response. The fact it happens also in KDE appears  
interesting... so the root cause might exist in a component on top of  
pure X which is shared by Gnome and KDE. I will definitely do more  
investigation on this at the weekend.


Hopefully some time suspend/resume will also work on the newer Lenovo  
models (I would be curious if the wakeup problem is Intel/KMS only or  
if also the NVidia models e.g. T430 NVS are affected).


Kind regards,
Matthias

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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:25:41 +0200, Matthias Petermann wrote:
 Hi Adrian,
 
 Zitat von Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org:
 
  Hi!
 
  I'm glad someone else is seeing this!
 
  I have the same behaviour with KDE4 on my T60 and T400. If I go to run
  amiwm (because hey, Workbench is awesome!) it doesn't happen.
 
  .. and bah, I wish the resume worked for you. It works fine for me on T42i,
  T60, T400.
 
 Thanks for your response. The fact it happens also in KDE appears  
 interesting... so the root cause might exist in a component on top of  
 pure X which is shared by Gnome and KDE.

I have tested a Lenovo R61i running Xfce, and I don't experience
the strange behaviour desribed. However, using the xev event
tester, the keycode for the Fn key is being displayed as 227,
and the KeyPress event is held (!) until the key is released,
which means KeyPress and KeyRelease happen immediately after
each other.

Because my IBM T60p is still in the ICU, I can't test this, but
I would assume to get a similar result.



 Hopefully some time suspend/resume will also work on the newer Lenovo  
 models (I would be curious if the wakeup problem is Intel/KMS only or  
 if also the NVidia models e.g. T430 NVS are affected).

It would also be nice if as much as possible would work on
the older models (including the docking stations), because
Thinkpads seem to live much longer (and therefore will probably
many more years in productive use), compared to their crappy
competitors on the laptop market. :-)




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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Grzegorz Blach
Hi,

I also had problem with Fn key.
I'm using Lenovo T430 and Enlightenment desktop environment.
I resolved this issue by unbinding XF86Sleep in Enlightenment settings.

Cheers,
Grzegorz Blach

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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
... xf86sleep as a keypress id?



-adrian


On 16 August 2013 04:48, Grzegorz Blach ma...@roorback.net wrote:

 Hi,

 I also had problem with Fn key.
 I'm using Lenovo T430 and Enlightenment desktop environment.
 I resolved this issue by unbinding XF86Sleep in Enlightenment settings.

 Cheers,
 Grzegorz Blach

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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:24:51 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 ... xf86sleep as a keypress id?

Yes, there are many of XF86... key symbols that can be
associated to key codes. Probably this is some setting
in Gnome or KDE (but not in other environments). You can
use xev to check which symbol is associated to which
key (or key combination, if this creates a new unique
key event).



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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Matthias Petermann

Hi,

Am 16.08.2013 13:58, schrieb Polytropon:
I have tested a Lenovo R61i running Xfce, and I don't experience the 
strange behaviour desribed. However, using the xev event tester, the 
keycode for the Fn key is being displayed as 227, and the KeyPress 
event is held (!) until the key is released, which means KeyPress and 
KeyRelease happen immediately after each other. Because my IBM T60p is 
still in the ICU, I can't test this, but I would assume to get a 
similar result. 


thanks, I just used xev (with X and only TWM). It reports the Fn key as 
keycode 150. Looks like this is different across the Thinkpad models.


It would also be nice if as much as possible would work on the older 
models (including the docking stations), because Thinkpads seem to 
live much longer (and therefore will probably many more years in 
productive use), compared to their crappy competitors on the laptop 
market. :-) 

Agree :-)

Regards,
Matthias
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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Matthias Petermann

Hi,

a short update on this. I just found out: at least in Gnome 2 the 
behavior can be prevented by using the gconf-settings tool, changing the 
value of the key /apps/gnome-power-manager/buttons/suspend from 
suspend to nothing. Seems like some ubuntu users had the same issue 
as I found the workaround there.


Kind regards,
Matthias


Am 16.08.2013 08:44, schrieb Adrian Chadd:

Hi!

I'm glad someone else is seeing this!

I have the same behaviour with KDE4 on my T60 and T400. If I go to run 
amiwm (because hey, Workbench is awesome!) it doesn't happen.


.. and bah, I wish the resume worked for you. It works fine for me on 
T42i, T60, T400.




-adrian



On 15 August 2013 23:32, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org 
mailto:matth...@d2ux.org wrote:



Hello,

I have a Lenovo X121e running Current with X and the Gnome
desktop. Beside other issues[1] there is a strange behavior of
Gnome-Desktop (and GDM too). When I press Fn without any
additional key, the device immediately goes to sleep. As the X121e
cannot resume properly from sleep, this forces me to reboot.

This problem appears to be only exist when using Gnome / GDM.
Pure X with TWM doesn't have this issue.

I already tried to re-map the Fn key (I found in some mailing this
might have the keycode 150) to a less dangerous key:
$ xmodmap -e keycode 150 = Delete
this brought no change.

Has anyone an idea if Gnome re-maps the keys in some way or how I
can disable this? At the moment this is the only blocker to use
this Laptop for daily work, as I tend to accidently touch the Fn
key more often than I want to reboot ;-)

Thanks in advance  kind regards,
Matthias


[1]

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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Adrian Chadd
Right, but this sounds like some bug to send upstream. Or at least patch in
our port(s) for this stuff.

What keyboard / laptop has the key code '150' map to 'go to sleep' ?



-adiran


On 16 August 2013 17:09, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org wrote:

  Hi,

 a short update on this. I just found out: at least in Gnome 2 the behavior
 can be prevented by using the gconf-settings tool, changing the value of
 the key /apps/gnome-power-manager/buttons/suspend from suspend to
 nothing. Seems like some ubuntu users had the same issue as I found the
 workaround there.

 Kind regards,
 Matthias


 Am 16.08.2013 08:44, schrieb Adrian Chadd:

 Hi!

  I'm glad someone else is seeing this!

  I have the same behaviour with KDE4 on my T60 and T400. If I go to run
 amiwm (because hey, Workbench is awesome!) it doesn't happen.

  .. and bah, I wish the resume worked for you. It works fine for me on
 T42i, T60, T400.



  -adrian



 On 15 August 2013 23:32, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.org wrote:


 Hello,

 I have a Lenovo X121e running Current with X and the Gnome desktop.
 Beside other issues[1] there is a strange behavior of Gnome-Desktop (and
 GDM too). When I press Fn without any additional key, the device
 immediately goes to sleep. As the X121e cannot resume properly from sleep,
 this forces me to reboot.

 This problem appears to be only exist when using Gnome / GDM.
 Pure X with TWM doesn't have this issue.

 I already tried to re-map the Fn key (I found in some mailing this might
 have the keycode 150) to a less dangerous key:
 $ xmodmap -e keycode 150 = Delete
 this brought no change.

 Has anyone an idea if Gnome re-maps the keys in some way or how I can
 disable this? At the moment this is the only blocker to use this Laptop for
 daily work, as I tend to accidently touch the Fn key more often than I want
 to reboot ;-)

 Thanks in advance  kind regards,
 Matthias


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Re: Laptop Fn key causes X (Gnome 2) to sleep immediately

2013-08-16 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:07:25 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
 What keyboard / laptop has the key code '150' map to 'go to sleep' ?

My Sun Type 7 USB keyboard has the Copy key at code 150... :-)


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Re: Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-07-06 Thread Mike C.
On 07/03/13 01:30, Mike C. wrote:
 On 06/23/13 23:57, CeDeROM wrote:
 Hey :-) For my Dell laptop the backlight is controlled by hardware,
 unlike sound keys where you can assign them to use
 xf86audiovolumeup/down (or similar) to interact with mixer. I would
 search for automatic backlight hothey that would block manual control,
 or BIOS settings (like automatic backlight) or maybe new BIOS would
 fix that problem..?
 Best regards,
 Tomek

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 I don't hae any BIOS settings for this... I have the most recent version
 of my bios but this Ultrabooks don't really have many options :)


I tried the xbrightness port, but no luck however I don't really
understand the error:

xbrightness 1.0
xbrightness:  unable to open default display.


Could this be related to the fact that I've built Xorg with:
WITH_NEW_XORG=true
WITH_KMS=true

Thanks!
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Re: Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-07-02 Thread Mike C.
On 06/23/13 23:57, CeDeROM wrote:

 Hey :-) For my Dell laptop the backlight is controlled by hardware,
 unlike sound keys where you can assign them to use
 xf86audiovolumeup/down (or similar) to interact with mixer. I would
 search for automatic backlight hothey that would block manual control,
 or BIOS settings (like automatic backlight) or maybe new BIOS would
 fix that problem..?
 Best regards,
 Tomek

 --
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I don't hae any BIOS settings for this... I have the most recent version
of my bios but this Ultrabooks don't really have many options :)

The keys work on windows, and I don't find any driver related to it on
the website... very odd...


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Is There Any Buyable Laptop for FreeBSD 9.1 That Is Simple to Set Up?

2013-06-24 Thread -Edwin Hale
I have been looking for ages for a simple system on which to do the following:-

a. Unix-Based.
b. Do Programming in C. (I like gedit if possible).
c. Xfce as GUI.
d. Production Work:-

1. OpenOffice (not LibreOffice).
2. The GIMP.
3. Inkscape.
4. Something with CAD and 3-D Rendering.
5. Film and Sound Editing.
6. Databases: PostgreSL, MySQL, and db2.e. 
7. Internet Work, including uploads to my website with FTP, my web host using 
the latest version of Apache.

f. Good Graphics and Media.
g. Good wireless connectivity through an external hotspot - currently using 
Sprint (not the best or the worst) 3G (more reliable than 4G) OverdrivePro but 
may upgrade when something better appears.

If I did not have to travel a good deal, I should be content with a desktop 
computer, but cannot escape from laptops.

I have tried many versions of Linux and some of the offshoots of FreeBSD, and 
only FreeBSD and DragonflyBSD seem close to what I think is best. FreeBSD wins 
because DragonflyBSD is just too esoteric at the moment.

After over a month of effort, I freely confess that installing FreeBSD 9.1 is 
beyond my capability. I have a Toshiba Satellite L755 with 32-bit  Intel® Core™ 
i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 Processor at the moment, and this is nowhere 
mentioned on any list of FreeBSD-capable laptops that I can find. Indeed, after 
ruthlessly searching the web and talking to dozens of people, none of whom have 
any close experience with FreeBSD, it seems that there are very few laptops 
which are capable of trouble-free installation of FreeBSD. In the case of my 
Toshiba Satellite L755, I believe that the wireless driver is not friendly to 
the idea. As I currently use Ubuntu 12.10 (native - wiped it in attempted to 
instal FreeBSD 9.1, and then re-installed after failure of said installation of 
FreeBSD), I ran the following command and received:-

$ lspci | grep Network
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 
802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)

And, running

$ iwconfig

produces

wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:OverdriveProA1F  
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.422 GHz  Access Point: 84:DB:2F:35:9A:1F   
  Bit Rate=18 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   
  Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr=2347 B   Fragment thr:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=70/70  Signal level=-40 dBm  
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:8   Missed beacon:0

lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

And this:-

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family 
DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core 
Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series 
Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 1 (rev b4)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 6 (rev b4)
00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 7 (rev b4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC 
Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus 
Controller (rev 04)
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 
802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8152 v2.0 Fast 
Ethernet (rev c1)

Well, the installation of FreeBSD floundered at the configuration stage of the 
GUI, and then stopped at the command line when the ports could not be installed 
because of lack of connectivity.

Oh, well - no need to waste time discussing this because my present computer is 
not good enough in other respects for what I should like to do.

Therefore, my question is ultimately:-

Is there any 1764-bit laptop that will readily support FreeBSD 9.1 with 
wireless connectivity to an external hotspot?

Many thanks.





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Re: Is There Any Buyable Laptop for FreeBSD 9.1 That Is Simple to Set Up?

2013-06-24 Thread Joseph Mingrone
-Edwin Hale thucidy...@yahoo.com writes:
 Therefore, my question is ultimately:-
 Is there any 1764-bit laptop that will readily support FreeBSD 9.1 with 
 wireless connectivity to an external hotspot?

There are many.  I've had good luck with Lenovos.  I'm writing this from
a friend's T530 and I own an X220, but neither have a 17 screen.

A first step is to search the archives of the mobile, acpi and questions
mailing lists.  There are also some helpful threads on the forums and
http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/.

Once you have a system specd out, verify that the video and wireless
cards are supported.  Searching for something like FreeBSD Centrino
Advanced-N 6205 should do it.

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Re: Is There Any Buyable Laptop for FreeBSD 9.1 That Is Simple to Set Up?

2013-06-24 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Joseph Mingrone j...@ftfl.ca wrote:
 -Edwin Hale thucidy...@yahoo.com writes:
 Therefore, my question is ultimately:-
 Is there any 1764-bit laptop that will readily support FreeBSD 9.1 with 
 wireless connectivity to an external hotspot?


You may wish to consider running PC-BSD.
It seems there has been work to support RTL8188CE, but I'm not sure
it's available in 9.1. Buying a supported wireless card on ebay will
cost about 10 to 20 dollars US, and replacing it takes 5 to 15
minutes. Some of the laptops have a list of 'allowed' hardware burned
into the BIOS, which may cause an issue booting with a different
wireless card, but it's probably not the situation on your L755.


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Re: Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-06-23 Thread CeDeROM
Hey :-) For my Dell laptop the backlight is controlled by hardware, unlike
sound keys where you can assign them to use xf86audiovolumeup/down (or
similar) to interact with mixer. I would search for automatic backlight
hothey that would block manual control, or BIOS settings (like automatic
backlight) or maybe new BIOS would fix that problem..?
Best regards,
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Re: Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-06-23 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 01:57:06 +0200, CeDeROM wrote:
 Hey :-) For my Dell laptop the backlight is controlled by hardware, unlike
 sound keys where you can assign them to use xf86audiovolumeup/down (or
 similar) to interact with mixer.

Same here for a Dell, an IBM and a Lenovo laptop: The brightness
keys are hard-wired and act without OS interaction, whereas the
multimedia keys are normal keys (check with xev program) and
can be programmed to do anything (like issuing mixer commands).



 I would search for automatic backlight
 hothey that would block manual control, or BIOS settings (like automatic
 backlight) or maybe new BIOS would fix that problem..?

Sometimes you can adjust brightness in BIOS setup. If you don't
need to change brightness all the time, this seems to be the
most comfortable situation.


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Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-06-22 Thread Miguel Clara
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I have an Acer (S3-391) laptop, its a recent model with an SSD and HHD
for a very nice price.

I'm running FreeBSD 10-current, because of the wireless driver.

I notice I can't use the brightness hotkeys (Fn + Left/Right Arrows)
even with acpi_video...

Als has the subject states I can't use audio hotkeys too (Fn + UP/DOWN
arrows), but I'm not sure if I would need to load any extra module to
do this!

Can anybody advice on this?


Many Thanks,


Mike
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Re: Acer Laptop Bightness and Volume Hotkeys not working!

2013-06-22 Thread Miguel Clara
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On 06/23/13 00:17, Miguel Clara wrote:
 
 I have an Acer (S3-391) laptop, its a recent model with an SSD and
 HHD for a very nice price.
 
 I'm running FreeBSD 10-current, because of the wireless driver.
 
 I notice I can't use the brightness hotkeys (Fn + Left/Right
 Arrows) even with acpi_video...
 
 Als has the subject states I can't use audio hotkeys too (Fn +
 UP/DOWN arrows), but I'm not sure if I would need to load any extra
 module to do this!
 
 Can anybody advice on this?
 
 
 Many Thanks,
 
 
 Mike
 

The sound hotkey problem is fixed, I forgot to set my keyboard
Layout properly in KDE setting it to Acer Laptop fixed this!

But I still have the brightness issue, and xbacklight gives me this:

xbacklight -get
No outputs have backlight property



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setting VGA output from laptop

2013-06-21 Thread Xavier
Hi,

Is there any way to configure VGA width output from one laptop ?

Thanks.
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Re: setting VGA output from laptop

2013-06-21 Thread Robert Bonomi

 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:24:26 +0200
 Subject: setting VGA output from laptop
 From: Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Is there any way to configure VGA width output from one laptop ?


Authoritative answer: Maybe

It's not clear =exactly= what you're asking.

The standard FreeBSD video driver supports 80 and 90 column wide text
displays, with the caveat that 90-colum mode may not be usable on some
laptops.  

If you're dealing with a graphics display, minimal VGA is 640x480 pixels.
virtually every even remotely moddern display supports 800x600 as well, 
many support 1024x768, and a fair number go to even higher resolutions.

'man vidcontrol' will tell you how to find out what is supported on _your_
machine.



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Re: setting VGA output from laptop

2013-06-21 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 01:40:14PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:

Hi Robert,


  Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:24:26 +0200
  Subject: setting VGA output from laptop
  From: Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com
 
  Hi,
 
  Is there any way to configure VGA width output from one laptop ?
 

 Authoritative answer: Maybe

 It's not clear =exactly= what you're asking.

 The standard FreeBSD video driver supports 80 and 90 column wide text
 displays, with the caveat that 90-colum mode may not be usable on some
 laptops.

 If you're dealing with a graphics display, minimal VGA is 640x480 pixels.
 virtually every even remotely moddern display supports 800x600 as well,
 many support 1024x768, and a fair number go to even higher resolutions.

 'man vidcontrol' will tell you how to find out what is supported on _your_
 machine.




For example if I try to set 40x25 text mode with VIDCONTROL(1) it don't
work.
And 'vidcontrol -i mode | grep T' show this mode.

I don't understand why if 40x25 mode if supported, VIDCONTROL(1) don't
set it ?

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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-20 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:19:39 +0100, Xavier wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:04:36PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 
 Hi Polytropon,
 
  On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:23 +0100, Xavier wrote:
   On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
  
   Hi Fabian,
  
Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using 
 FreeBSD?
   
It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:
   
fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable
   
  
   My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ?
   Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ?
 
  For laptops, you usually load a kernel module for interfacing
  with the specific ACPI functions, like acpi_ibm.ko. There are
  several others, but see man acpi_ibm for some impressions.
 
 
 Yes, but I have an acer Aspire 5634WLMi, and:
 
 % ls /boot/kernel/acpi*
 /boot/kernel/acpi_asus.ko   /boot/kernel/acpi_panasonic.ko
 /boot/kernel/acpi_asus.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_panasonic.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_dock.ko   /boot/kernel/acpi_sony.ko
 /boot/kernel/acpi_dock.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_sony.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_fujitsu.ko/boot/kernel/acpi_toshiba.ko
 /boot/kernel/acpi_fujitsu.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_toshiba.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_hp.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_video.ko
 /boot/kernel/acpi_hp.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_video.ko.symbols
 /boot/kernel/acpi_ibm.ko/boot/kernel/acpi_wmi.ko
 /boot/kernel/acpi_ibm.ko.symbols/boot/kernel/acpi_wmi.ko.symbols
 
 I don't have an acer kernel module for ACPI.

Two options:

If you can derive from the documentation of your Acer laotop
if it is _compatible_ to one of the implementations provided
by the system, use that instead.

You can do trial  error to see if one of the modules works,
even though the name is different. In worst case, load them
all (by using * wildcard) and check with kldstat.




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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-19 Thread Fabian Keil
Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using FreeBSD?

It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:

fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable

Fabian


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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-19 Thread Xavier
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:

Hi Fabian,

 Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using 
  FreeBSD?

 It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:

 fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
 dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
 dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
 dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable


My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ?
Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ?

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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-19 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:23 +0100, Xavier wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
 
 Hi Fabian,
 
  Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using 
   FreeBSD?
 
  It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:
 
  fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
  dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
  dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
  dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable
 
 
 My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ?
 Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ?

For laptops, you usually load a kernel module for interfacing
with the specific ACPI functions, like acpi_ibm.ko. There are
several others, but see man acpi_ibm for some impressions.




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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-19 Thread Fabian Keil
Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
 
 Hi Fabian,
 
  Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using 
   FreeBSD?
 
  It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:
 
  fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
  dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
  dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
  dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable
 
 
 My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ?
 Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ?

acpi_ibm(4) is a kernel module that isn't loaded by default.

Depending on your hardware you may have to kldload a different
module. You could try:

ls /boot/kernel/acpi_*.ko

and then kldload the module you think makes sense for your hardware.
Note that not all modules have fan control, though.

As I only use IBM and Lenovo laptops I'm not familiar with
the other modules.

Fabian


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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-19 Thread Xavier
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:04:36PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:

Hi Polytropon,

 On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:23 +0100, Xavier wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
 
  Hi Fabian,
 
   Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using 
FreeBSD?
  
   It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:
  
   fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
   dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
   dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
   dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable
  
 
  My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ?
  Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ?

 For laptops, you usually load a kernel module for interfacing
 with the specific ACPI functions, like acpi_ibm.ko. There are
 several others, but see man acpi_ibm for some impressions.


Yes, but I have an acer Aspire 5634WLMi, and:

% ls /boot/kernel/acpi*
/boot/kernel/acpi_asus.ko   /boot/kernel/acpi_panasonic.ko
/boot/kernel/acpi_asus.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_panasonic.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_dock.ko   /boot/kernel/acpi_sony.ko
/boot/kernel/acpi_dock.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_sony.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_fujitsu.ko/boot/kernel/acpi_toshiba.ko
/boot/kernel/acpi_fujitsu.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_toshiba.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_hp.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_video.ko
/boot/kernel/acpi_hp.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_video.ko.symbols
/boot/kernel/acpi_ibm.ko/boot/kernel/acpi_wmi.ko
/boot/kernel/acpi_ibm.ko.symbols/boot/kernel/acpi_wmi.ko.symbols

I don't have an acer kernel module for ACPI.

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Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD

2013-01-19 Thread Xavier
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:07:07PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:

Hi Fabian,

 Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
 
  Hi Fabian,
 
   Xavier xavierfreebsdquesti...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using 
FreeBSD?
  
   It depends on the laptop. On mine it works:
  
   fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan
   dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed
   dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level
   dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable
  
 
  My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ?
  Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ?

 acpi_ibm(4) is a kernel module that isn't loaded by default.

 Depending on your hardware you may have to kldload a different
 module. You could try:

 ls /boot/kernel/acpi_*.ko

Yes, but I hace an acer ...

Thanks, see you.
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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-27 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 25 November 2012 06:11, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 From ill...@gmail.com Sat Nov 24 16:09:29 2012
  On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
 wrote:
  It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
  whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
...
  hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x 
 chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
  device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
  class  = bridge
  subclass   = HOST-PCI
  vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c 
 chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
  device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
  class  = display
  subclass   = VGA
  bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c 
 chip=0x171314e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
  device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
  class  = network
  subclass   = ethernet
  siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c 
 chip=0x431214e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
  device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
  class  = network
  cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c 
 chip=0x04761180 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
  vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
  device = 'RL5c476 II'
  class  = bridge
  subclass   = PCI-CardBus
 
  You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
   the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
  I should see if it builds  runs without agp.
 

 Looks like drm requires agp for the kernel to link correctly.
 Oh well.

 ...
 drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_free_memory':
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcba):
 undefined reference to `agp_fi
 nd_device'
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcd4):
 undefined reference to `agp_fr
 ee_memory'
 drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_init':
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xdb8):
 undefined reference to `agp_fi
 nd_device'
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xe2f):
 undefined reference to `agp_ge
 t_info'
 *** [kernel] Error code 1
 ...

 ok, I get it. I think I built drm and agp
 together, hence I haven't encountered this
 error.

 Do you use radeon video driver?
 Do you use radeondrm device in kernel?
 This only place I see this is in
 src/sys/amd64/conf/NOTES.
 My understanding is that to get drm
 working with the radeon driver, I need
 to add radeondrm to the kernel, but again,
 I'm not sure.

Yes, I use the radeon driver in xorg,  I have
radeondrm in kernel.  I don't think you need to
build it in, as loading the module should work,
I just got in the habit a while back  can't seem
to quit now.

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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology 
Configuration'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb3@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x171314e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c 
chip=0x431214e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
 class  = network
 cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x04761180 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
 device = 'RL5c476 II'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-CardBus

You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
 the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
I should see if it builds  runs without agp.

Mine is HP Compaq 6715s.
As far as I can see building a kernel with agp(4)
doesn't make it appear in dmesg, which to me indicates
I don't need it. But I'm not sure...
I'm having wierd problems with X and I'm trying
to understand better what's going on.

Anton
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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology 
Configuration'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb3@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x171314e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c 
chip=0x431214e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
 class  = network
 cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x04761180 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
 device = 'RL5c476 II'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-CardBus

 You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
  the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
 I should see if it builds  runs without agp.


Looks like drm requires agp for the kernel to link correctly.
Oh well.

...
drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_free_memory':
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcba):
undefined reference to `agp_fi
nd_device'
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcd4):
undefined reference to `agp_fr
ee_memory'
drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_init':
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xdb8):
undefined reference to `agp_fi
nd_device'
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xe2f):
undefined reference to `agp_ge
t_info'
*** [kernel] Error code 1
...

ok, I get it. I think I built drm and agp
together, hence I haven't encountered this
error.

Do you use radeon video driver?
Do you use radeondrm device in kernel?
This only place I see this is in
src/sys/amd64/conf/NOTES.
My understanding is that to get drm
working with the radeon driver, I need
to add radeondrm to the kernel, but again,
I'm not sure.

Anton

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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11031022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x791f1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x171314e4 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c chip=0x431214e4 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
 class  = network
 cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x04761180 
 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
 device = 'RL5c476 II'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-CardBus

You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
 the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
I should see if it builds  runs without agp.

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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11021022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11031022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x791f1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x171314e4 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c chip=0x431214e4 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
 class  = network
 cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x04761180 
 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
 device = 'RL5c476 II'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-CardBus

 You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
  the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
 I should see if it builds  runs without agp.


Looks like drm requires agp for the kernel to link correctly.
Oh well.

...
drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_free_memory':
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcba):
undefined reference to `agp_fi
nd_device'
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcd4):
undefined reference to `agp_fr
ee_memory'
drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_init':
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xdb8):
undefined reference to `agp_fi
nd_device'
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xe2f):
undefined reference to `agp_ge
t_info'
*** [kernel] Error code 1
...

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do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to
show dmesg?

Please advise

Thanks
Anton


hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79101002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 Host Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79121002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib2@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79141002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib3@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79151002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib4@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79161002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
ahci0@pci0:0:18:0:  class=0x01018f card=0x43801002 chip=0x43801002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
ohci0@pci0:0:19:0:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43871002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI0)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci1@pci0:0:19:1:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43881002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI1)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci2@pci0:0:19:2:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43891002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI2)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci3@pci0:0:19:3:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438a1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI3)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci4@pci0:0:19:4:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438b1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI4)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ehci0@pci0:0:19:5:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43861002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
none0@pci0:0:20:0:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43851002 rev=0x14 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SBx00 SMBus Controller'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = SMBus
atapci0@pci0:0:20:1:class=0x010182 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438c1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 IDE'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
hdac0@pci0:0:20:2:  class=0x040300 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43831002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)'
class  = multimedia
subclass   = HDA
isab0@pci0:0:20:3:  class=0x060100 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438d1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-ISA
pcib5@pci0:0:20:4:  class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x43841002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb3@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: 

Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-11-01 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:28:22 +0100
Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain
From: Idwer Vollering vid...@gmail.com
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, flash...@flashrom.org

Another approach is to use an external SPI programmer:
http://flashrom.org/Supported_programmers
The 'downside' of this is that you need to take your laptop apart.

ODM schematics of your laptop are found here:
http://notebookschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/6515b_6715s.png
Downloads for BIOS updates:

http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=3356623prodTypeId=321957prodSeriesId=3368539swLang=13taskId=135swEnvOID=1093#120
and ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp55501-56000/sp6.exe

My guess (I am not a HP service technician) is that you need
ROM.CAB/Rom.bin from sp6.exe - you can use 7zip to extract Rom.bin

This is probably way beyond my skills,
but thanks anyway.

Anton
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-30 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:44:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

More civilised notebook manufactures usually provide 
also self booting (CD) image to update BIOS 
(e.g. Lenovo/ThinkPad). 


ok, I get the message, thanks.

Anton
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-30 Thread Idwer Vollering
 I've HP compaq 6715s laptop.
 It's all right with 10-current.
 I've got wireless and at one point
 I even managed to get flash working.

 My problem is with BIOS.
 Apparently it's wrong and John Baldwin
 provided me with a pci.c patch to get
 it to boot.

 There is an updated BIOS version, but
 so far I failed to get it installed.
 HP only provide MS and freedos executables.
 I tried BartPE - doesn't work.
 I tried plugging in a MS disk - doesn't work.
 The only think I haven't tried is getting
 a spare disk, installing freedos on it
 and then running the freedos executable
 from USB - what a fucking pain...

 For proper hardware (servers) HP provide
 images which are executed from management
 console, but not for laptops.
 I guess the idea that one might
 use their laptops for anything other than MS
 is so wild, that it never crossed their maid.

 Anyway, I think I've heard there are some laptops
 with no BIOS, is this true?
 Or perhaps there are brands where BIOS
 reflash is not such a great pain?
 I remember on Compaq Armada the BIOS was
 stored on disk and Compaq provided a floppy
 image to boot from and reflash BIOS.
 That was easy.
 Anything like this exist these days?
 Are there any EFI laptops?
 Any model people would recommend?

 Thanks

 Anton

Another approach is to use an external SPI programmer:
http://flashrom.org/Supported_programmers
The 'downside' of this is that you need to take your laptop apart.

ODM schematics of your laptop are found here:
http://notebookschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/6515b_6715s.png
Downloads for BIOS updates:
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=3356623prodTypeId=321957prodSeriesId=3368539swLang=13taskId=135swEnvOID=1093#120
and ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp55501-56000/sp6.exe

My guess (I am not a HP service technician) is that you need
ROM.CAB/Rom.bin from sp6.exe - you can use 7zip to extract Rom.bin
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From cpgh...@cordula.ws Thu Oct 25 03:40:28 2012

Heh... ;-)

(U)EFI is nothing new for us old farts: we've had OpenBoot[1] on
Sun hardware for ages, and even though it didn't limit us w.r.t. the
OS you wanted to boot (that's why you can install FreeBSD/sparc64
on used Sun machines), it had its issues too. Mainly that it needed
a counter-part in hardware peripherals. E.g.: without F-Code in ROM,
a PCI-based frame buffer wouldn't be usable there, because it wouldn't
reply to the OpenBoot queries.

The point is that firmware CAN be a mini-OS and more powerful
than PC-BIOS. There's nothing wrong with that, and the flexibility
of OFW/OpenBoot was for us sysadmins invaluable, esp. with
diskless machines. What's wrong, is UEFI's DRM-scheme used to
prevent non-signed code to be loaded... without mandating in
the specs that the BIOS vendor MUST allow the device owner
to add his/her own keys to it. That's the evil part of it.

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware

I'm probably missing something here.
ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing
about checking for non-signed code.
I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc.
And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g.
USB flash drives is trivial on ia64.
Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI
specification iteself, but what
different manufacturers add on top of it?

Anton
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-25 Thread Bruce Cran

On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:

 I'm probably missing something here.
 ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing
 about checking for non-signed code.
 I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc.
 And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g.
 USB flash drives is trivial on ia64.
 Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI
 specification iteself, but what
 different manufacturers add on top of it?


It's in the latest UEFI spec - see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot .

-- 
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From br...@cran.org.uk Thu Oct 25 09:22:33 2012


On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
wrote:

 I'm probably missing something here.
 ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing
 about checking for non-signed code.
 I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc.
 And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g.
 USB flash drives is trivial on ia64.
 Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI
 specification iteself, but what
 different manufacturers add on top of it?


It's in the latest UEFI spec - see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot .

-- 
Bruce Cran

fuck.. I'm out of touch.
So this means I might not
be able to boot freebsd at all
on future ia64 boxes..

Anton
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-25 Thread Bruce Cran

On 25 Oct 2012, at 09:40, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 So this means I might not
 be able to boot freebsd at all
 on future ia64 boxes..


Ignore the FUD - there will be an option to disable it in the firmware/BIOS 
settings.

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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-25 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   From br...@cran.org.uk Thu Oct 25 09:22:33 2012
 
 
   On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
 wrote:
 
I'm probably missing something here.
ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing
about checking for non-signed code.
I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc.
And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g.
USB flash drives is trivial on ia64.
Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI
specification iteself, but what
different manufacturers add on top of it?
 
 
   It's in the latest UEFI spec - see 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot
  .
 
   -- 
   Bruce Cran
 
 fuck.. I'm out of touch.
 So this means I might not
 be able to boot freebsd at all
 on future ia64 boxes..

There probably won't be much ia64 boxes in the future. You
should worry to not be able to run FreeBSD on ARM, and
maybe even later on normal x86 (amd64) hardware, if
specific interested parties should get their will...




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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-24 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:38:48 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 Anyway, I think I've heard there are some laptops
 with no BIOS, is this true?

 Per termini technici, yes.

 Some systems use EFI (or UEFI) instead of a BIOS. It's
 comparable to a much more advanced (than BIOS) micro-OS
 that initializes the hardware, connectes to the Internet,
 tells the manufacturer what you're doing and keeps limiting
 you in what you are allowed to install. :-)

Heh... ;-)

(U)EFI is nothing new for us old farts: we've had OpenBoot[1] on
Sun hardware for ages, and even though it didn't limit us w.r.t. the
OS you wanted to boot (that's why you can install FreeBSD/sparc64
on used Sun machines), it had its issues too. Mainly that it needed
a counter-part in hardware peripherals. E.g.: without F-Code in ROM,
a PCI-based frame buffer wouldn't be usable there, because it wouldn't
reply to the OpenBoot queries.

The point is that firmware CAN be a mini-OS and more powerful
than PC-BIOS. There's nothing wrong with that, and the flexibility
of OFW/OpenBoot was for us sysadmins invaluable, esp. with
diskless machines. What's wrong, is UEFI's DRM-scheme used to
prevent non-signed code to be loaded... without mandating in
the specs that the BIOS vendor MUST allow the device owner
to add his/her own keys to it. That's the evil part of it.

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware

-cpghost.

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laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-19 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I've HP compaq 6715s laptop.
It's all right with 10-current.
I've got wireless and at one point
I even managed to get flash working.

My problem is with BIOS.
Apparently it's wrong and John Baldwin
provided me with a pci.c patch to get
it to boot.

There is an updated BIOS version, but
so far I failed to get it installed.
HP only provide MS and freedos executables.
I tried BartPE - doesn't work.
I tried plugging in a MS disk - doesn't work.
The only think I haven't tried is getting
a spare disk, installing freedos on it
and then running the freedos executable
from USB - what a fucking pain...

For proper hardware (servers) HP provide
images which are executed from management
console, but not for laptops.
I guess the idea that one might
use their laptops for anything other than MS
is so wild, that it never crossed their maid.

Anyway, I think I've heard there are some laptops
with no BIOS, is this true?
Or perhaps there are brands where BIOS
reflash is not such a great pain?
I remember on Compaq Armada the BIOS was
stored on disk and Compaq provided a floppy
image to boot from and reflash BIOS.
That was easy.
Anything like this exist these days?
Are there any EFI laptops?
Any model people would recommend?

Thanks

Anton
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Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain

2012-10-19 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:38:48 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 There is an updated BIOS version, but
 so far I failed to get it installed.
 HP only provide MS and freedos executables.
 I tried BartPE - doesn't work.

Maybe you can utilize the approach to create the typical
DOS boot diskette and access it via attached USB floppy
disk drive?



 I tried plugging in a MS disk - doesn't work.
 The only think I haven't tried is getting
 a spare disk, installing freedos on it
 and then running the freedos executable
 from USB - what a fucking pain...

The idea with a disk could work, but seems a bit over-
complicated for such a simple (yes, haha) task like
updating the BIOS.



 For proper hardware (servers) HP provide
 images which are executed from management
 console, but not for laptops.
 I guess the idea that one might
 use their laptops for anything other than MS
 is so wild, that it never crossed their maid.

That's because it doesn't exist. :-)



 Anyway, I think I've heard there are some laptops
 with no BIOS, is this true?

Per termini technici, yes.

Some systems use EFI (or UEFI) instead of a BIOS. It's
comparable to a much more advanced (than BIOS) micro-OS
that initializes the hardware, connectes to the Internet,
tells the manufacturer what you're doing and keeps limiting
you in what you are allowed to install. :-)



 Or perhaps there are brands where BIOS
 reflash is not such a great pain?

Yes, mainframes with loadable microprogram. :-)



 I remember on Compaq Armada the BIOS was
 stored on disk and Compaq provided a floppy
 image to boot from and reflash BIOS.
 That was easy.

I remember that idea, but having to rely on a working
hard disk in order to have _basic_ (that's what the 'B'
in BIOS means) input and output functionality looks a
bit ridiculous.



 Anything like this exist these days?

For sure, but not very common in home consumer hardware (yet).



 Are there any EFI laptops?

As far as I know, Apple only makes such. Newer netbooks
intended to run MICROS~1 products are also known, both
for i386/amd64 and ARM architecture (with the idea that
on ARM, you cannot run anything else than what the hardware
vendor allows, which is Windows).



 Any model people would recommend?

IBM Thinkpad. :-)



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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Chris


 From: Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
To: Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop
 


On Aug 29, 2012 8:44 AM, Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se wrote:

 Hi,


 I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please point me 
 to an existing resource if available.

 I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would like 
 to get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install), but I'm failling 
 as it has been at least 5 years since I used with wifi under FreeBSD. The 
 card is not automatically detected (interface not listed in ifconfig) so I'm 
 assuming I have to either load a kernel module or go the NDIS path. It seems 
 like on Windows, the same driver is used for E430, E435, E530 and E535, so 
 in case anyone is using one of these models, please let me know if have 
 things running.

 So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

 - How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can I read 
 it out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)?
   All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but doesn't 
 help me to find a driver. I
   Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers that I 
 can use that I can test?
 - If I need to use NDIS emulation, does anyone think it will work for this 
 model/card? Windows drivers can be found here 
 http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/default.page).
   The handbook 
 (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html#CONFIG-NETWORK-NDIS)
  says I need Win XP drivers, is that old text or do I need that? I can't 
 find XP drivers on the lenovo page...
 - If NDIS should be possible, how do I extract the .sys and .inf file from 
 the exe that I downloaded from the URL above (I don't have any Windows 
 machine right now).

 TIA,
   Chris

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hi, you can usually find replacement wifi cards for your model on ebay, this 
can give you an idea of the chipset. 
also, you could always pull off the panel and look at the card.
ndis can be tricky because it needs an older 32 bit driver, and you need to 
run a 32 bit version of FreeBSD.
a good solution is to find a ralink or atheros card on ebay and swap it out, 
usually will cost less than 10 bucks USD.
Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA




Hi Waltman, jb and Daniel,
(sorry for not replying to the latest email in the thread, something is wrong 
with my email account)

Thanks very much for the help, it is really appreciated.
I called Lenovo support and the only info they had was that it was an Intel 
card, so that's the same info as jb had tracked down (and I also found myself).

Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:

none3@pci0:3:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
class  = network


As per the release notes for 9.0 
(http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4) driver be 
the one to use.

Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the instructions in 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and rebooted.

if_bwn_load=YES
wlan_wep_load=YES
wlan_ccmp_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES


(also tried the bwi(4) driver instead of bwn)

I still don't get anything in dmesg or ifconfig. So either I have missed some 
step, or this specific card isn't supported by the bwn/bwi drivers.
Anyone have any further ideas?
If not, I'll try to track down some USB WLAN card that is supported, as I've 
also heard the same thing as Daniel, i.e. that non-Lenovo cards are blocked by 
the BIOS if you try to replace the default one.

BR,
  Chris
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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Chris wrote:


Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:

none3@pci0:3:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
class  = network


As per the release notes for 9.0 
(http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4) driver be 
the one to use.

Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the instructions in 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and rebooted.

if_bwn_load=YES
wlan_wep_load=YES
wlan_ccmp_load=YES
wlan_tkip_load=YES


The last three are included in the GENERIC kernel.

The bwi and bwn drivers need firmware, which is provided by the 
net/bwi-firmware-kmod and net/bwn-firmware-kmod ports.  So install 
whichever is appropriate.  I think the driver tries to load the right
firmware automatically, but haven't tried a Broadcom in a while, and it 
might still be necessary to load the firmware module in 
/boot/loader.conf.

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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Chris


- Original Message -
 From: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
 To: Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Waitman 
 Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop
 
 On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Chris wrote:
 
  Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:
 
  none3@pci0:3:0:0:       class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4 
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
  vendor     = 'Broadcom Corporation'
  device     = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
  class      = network
 
 
  As per the release notes for 9.0 
 (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4) driver 
 be 
 the one to use.
 
  Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the instructions in 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and 
 rebooted.
 
  if_bwn_load=YES
  wlan_wep_load=YES
  wlan_ccmp_load=YES
  wlan_tkip_load=YES
 
 The last three are included in the GENERIC kernel.
 
 The bwi and bwn drivers need firmware, which is provided by the 
 net/bwi-firmware-kmod and net/bwn-firmware-kmod ports.  So install 
 whichever is appropriate.  I think the driver tries to load the right
 firmware automatically, but haven't tried a Broadcom in a while, and it 
 might still be necessary to load the firmware module in 
 /boot/loader.conf.
 ___
 

Hi Warren,


thanks. Tried with the firmware as well but no better luck. On closer 
inspection of the bwn manual, it seems like the 4313 is not on the list of 
suppored versions.

What I did find though was that it is supposedly possible to get working using 
NDIS (even with amd64) as per this PC-BSD wiki page 
http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Testing


I might try the NDIS, but will first see if I can find a USB card as the 'net 
seems to be full of talk about instability of the NDIS driver for the 4313.


Thanks to everyone for the help!


BR,

  Chris
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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-30 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Aug 30, 2012 7:17 AM, Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se wrote:



 - Original Message -
  From: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
  To: Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop
 
  On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Chris wrote:
 
   Using pciconf as per jb's hint tells me it is a broadcom I have:
 
   none3@pci0:3:0:0:   class=0x028000 card=0x060814e4 chip=0x472714e4
  rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
   device = 'BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller'
   class  = network
 
 
   As per the release notes for 9.0
  (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), the bwn(4)
driver be
  the one to use.
 
   Added the following to my /boot/loader.conf following the
instructions in
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-wireless.html and
rebooted.
 
   if_bwn_load=YES
   wlan_wep_load=YES
   wlan_ccmp_load=YES
   wlan_tkip_load=YES
 
  The last three are included in the GENERIC kernel.
 
  The bwi and bwn drivers need firmware, which is provided by the
  net/bwi-firmware-kmod and net/bwn-firmware-kmod ports.  So install
  whichever is appropriate.  I think the driver tries to load the right
  firmware automatically, but haven't tried a Broadcom in a while, and it
  might still be necessary to load the firmware module in
  /boot/loader.conf.
  ___
 

 Hi Warren,


 thanks. Tried with the firmware as well but no better luck. On closer
inspection of the bwn manual, it seems like the 4313 is not on the list of
suppored versions.

 What I did find though was that it is supposedly possible to get working
using NDIS (even with amd64) as per this PC-BSD wiki page
http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Testing


 I might try the NDIS, but will first see if I can find a USB card as the
'net seems to be full of talk about instability of the NDIS driver for the
4313.


 Thanks to everyone for the help!


 BR,

   Chris
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it would be cool if the 4313 worked, i've got a couple of those sitting
around here. ill check out that link, thanks. as far as usb goes, I
recommend an ralink based device, like older d_link dongles. (i think
anything new on the shelf is using atheros, usb support not working afaik)
... all the usb ralink devices I found on ebay work perfectly. (there are
even some that have a boosted range of 3km lol)

as far as the bios whitelist, I have an hp with that kind of problem. there
are several ways around it, but they are all dirty/suspect. luckily I found
an ralink that sailed through the detection. you should be able to find out
what lenovo sells as replacement parts to get an idea of what they /approve/

Waitman Gobble
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Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread Chris
Hi,


I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please point me to 
an existing resource if available.

I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would like to 
get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install), but I'm failling as it 
has been at least 5 years since I used with wifi under FreeBSD. The card is not 
automatically detected (interface not listed in ifconfig) so I'm assuming I 
have to either load a kernel module or go the NDIS path. It seems like on 
Windows, the same driver is used for E430, E435, E530 and E535, so in case 
anyone is using one of these models, please let me know if have things running.

So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

- How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can I read it 
out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)? 
  All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but doesn't 
help me to find a driver. I
  Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers that I can 
use that I can test?
- If I need to use NDIS emulation, does anyone think it will work for this 
model/card? Windows drivers can be found here 
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/default.page).
  The handbook 
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html#CONFIG-NETWORK-NDIS)
 says I need Win XP drivers, is that old text or do I need that? I can't find 
XP drivers on the lenovo page...
- If NDIS should be possible, how do I extract the .sys and .inf file from the 
exe that I downloaded from the URL above (I don't have any Windows machine 
right now).

TIA,
  Chris

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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Aug 29, 2012 8:44 AM, Chris devnullacco...@yahoo.se wrote:

 Hi,


 I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please point
me to an existing resource if available.

 I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would
like to get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install), but I'm
failling as it has been at least 5 years since I used with wifi under
FreeBSD. The card is not automatically detected (interface not listed in
ifconfig) so I'm assuming I have to either load a kernel module or go the
NDIS path. It seems like on Windows, the same driver is used for E430,
E435, E530 and E535, so in case anyone is using one of these models, please
let me know if have things running.

 So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

 - How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can I
read it out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)?
   All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but
doesn't help me to find a driver. I
   Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers that
I can use that I can test?
 - If I need to use NDIS emulation, does anyone think it will work for
this model/card? Windows drivers can be found here
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/default.page).
   The handbook (
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html#CONFIG-NETWORK-NDIS)
says I need Win XP drivers, is that old text or do I need that? I can't
find XP drivers on the lenovo page...
 - If NDIS should be possible, how do I extract the .sys and .inf file
from the exe that I downloaded from the URL above (I don't have any Windows
machine right now).

 TIA,
   Chris

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hi, you can usually find replacement wifi cards for your model on ebay,
this can give you an idea of the chipset.

also, you could always pull off the panel and look at the card.

ndis can be tricky because it needs an older 32 bit driver, and you need
to run a 32 bit version of FreeBSD.

a good solution is to find a ralink or atheros card on ebay and swap it
out, usually will cost less than 10 bucks USD.

Waitman Gobble
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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread jb
Chris devnullaccount at yahoo.se writes:

 ...

 I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and would like
 to get the Wifi card running
 (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install)
 ...

http://support.lenovo.com/en_GB/product-and-parts/detail.page?DocID=PD024684
Communications
Network

ThinkPad 1x1 11b/g/n PCIe Half Mini Card
ThinkPad 11b/g/n PCIe Half Mini Card
1x1 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo adapter
Intel Centrino® Wireless-N 2230
2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo adapter
Bluetooth 4.0 wireless

There is a product ref file:
http://www.lenovo.com/psref/
http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/edgebook.pdf
search for E530 3259.

These entries will be probably useless, but here they are:
$ dmesg -a | less
$ dmesg | grep -i wireless 

Example:
$ pciconf -lv |grep -i wireless
...
wpi0@pci0:3:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x42278086 rev=0x02
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection'
class  = network
...

Note: that wpi in top line is a driver name.

$ lshal |grep -i wireless

I searched Google but no luck.

Get a recent Live CD or DVD from any Linux distro (Knoppix, Fedora, etc).

jb


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Re: Wifi for Lenovo Laptop

2012-08-29 Thread Daniel Staal

On 2012-08-29 11:42, Chris wrote:

Hi,


I've tried to search the lists but can't find anything, but please
point me to an existing resource if available.

I recently got a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530 (3259-9VG) laptop and
would like to get the Wifi card running (fresh FreeBSD 9.0 install),
but I'm failling as it has been at least 5 years since I used with
wifi under FreeBSD. The card is not automatically detected (interface
not listed in ifconfig) so I'm assuming I have to either load a 
kernel

module or go the NDIS path. It seems like on Windows, the same driver
is used for E430, E435, E530 and E535, so in case anyone is using one
of these models, please let me know if have things running.

So some questions that might point me in the right direction:

- How can I find out which type of card this laptop actually has (can
I read it out of dmesg, some PCI listing or whatever)?
  All I can find are product sheets saying that it has 11b/g/n, but
doesn't help me to find a driver. I
  Is there some meta-module that loads all the native wifi drivers
that I can use that I can test?


There's a couple of different Wifi options for that machine, so which 
one you have may make a difference.  There looks to be some information 
on identifying which card you have here:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Wireless_Network_Adapters
(Though they don't have your model listed yet, I think it's a new 
model...)


I'm guessing you probably have a 'Thinkpad' card, which recently has 
been Realtek, but you'd have to check that.  Note that replacing it with 
a generic mini-PCI wireless card may not work: Lenovo has been known to 
have their BIOS only recognize 'official' replacement parts.


Daniel T. Staal

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re: built-in mic configuration [compaq presario laptop]

2012-08-25 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
I would like to be able to use the built-in mic to record audio and to 
use Skype with. An external mic seems to work out-of-the-box.


Any input would be appreciated.

:; uname -a
FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Aug 17 
21:53:39 EEST 2012 root@box2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


:; dmesg | grep pcm
pcm0: HDA IDT 92HD75B3 PCM #0 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm1: HDA NVidia (Unknown) PCM #0 Digital at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0


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Re: built-in mic configuration [compaq presario laptop]

2012-08-25 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Alexander Kapshuk 
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to be able to use the built-in mic to record audio and to use
 Skype with. An external mic seems to work out-of-the-box.

 Any input would be appreciated.

 :; uname -a
 FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Aug 17 21:53:39
 EEST 2012 root@box2:/usr/obj/usr/src/**sys/GENERIC  i386

 :; dmesg | grep pcm
 pcm0: HDA IDT 92HD75B3 PCM #0 Analog at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
 pcm1: HDA NVidia (Unknown) PCM #0 Digital at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0


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Hi,

you need to specify the device, take a look at

# ls /dev/dsp*
/dev/dsp0.0/dev/dsp0.1/dev/dsp1.0/dev/dsp2.0/dev/dsp2.1

for example, i can send audio output to headphone jack:
# mplayer -zoom -x 1280 -y 720 -fs -ao oss:/dev/dsp1 -mixer /dev/mixer2
/path/to/file

Haven't tried skype on FreeBSD but there should be a device setting. I've
noticed that some machines seem to automatically switch, ie when I plug in
headphones to the headphone jack or a mic into a microphone jack it just
works. But other machines don't work automatically and I have to set the
device manually as above. A simple way, you can try setting each device to
see which one works. :)


# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64)
Installed devices:
pcm0: ATI R6xx (HDMI) (play)
pcm1: IDT 92HD81B1X (Analog 2.0+HP/2.0) (play/rec) default
pcm2: IDT 92HD81B1X (Analog Mic) (rec)

# mixer
Mixer vol  is currently set to  90:90
Mixer pcm  is currently set to  85:85
Mixer speaker  is currently set to 100:100
Mixer mic  is currently set to  67:67
Mixer mix  is currently set to   1:1
Mixer rec  is currently set to   1:1
Mixer ogainis currently set to 100:100
Recording source: mic

Waitman Gobble
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Re: built-in mic configuration [compaq presario laptop]

2012-08-25 Thread Alexander Kapshuk

On 08/25/12 19:26, Waitman Gobble wrote:

you need to specify the device, take a look at

# ls /dev/dsp*
/dev/dsp0.0/dev/dsp0.1/dev/dsp1.0/dev/dsp2.0 /dev/dsp2.1

for example, i can send audio output to headphone jack:
# mplayer -zoom -x 1280 -y 720 -fs -ao oss:/dev/dsp1 -mixer 
/dev/mixer2 /path/to/file


Haven't tried skype on FreeBSD but there should be a device setting. 
I've noticed that some machines seem to automatically switch, ie when 
I plug in headphones to the headphone jack or a mic into a microphone 
jack it just works. But other machines don't work automatically and 
I have to set the device manually as above. A simple way, you can try 
setting each device to see which one works. :)



# cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64)
Installed devices:
pcm0: ATI R6xx (HDMI) (play)
pcm1: IDT 92HD81B1X (Analog 2.0+HP/2.0) (play/rec) default
pcm2: IDT 92HD81B1X (Analog Mic) (rec)

# mixer
Mixer vol  is currently set to  90:90
Mixer pcm  is currently set to  85:85
Mixer speaker  is currently set to 100:100
Mixer mic  is currently set to  67:67
Mixer mix  is currently set to   1:1
Mixer rec  is currently set to   1:1
Mixer ogainis currently set to 100:100
Recording source: mic

OK. Thanks.

I'll give that a try.

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Re: built-in mic configuration [compaq presario laptop]

2012-08-25 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Saturday, August 25, 2012 a las 09:26:44AM -0700, Waitman Gobble 
escribió:

 Hi,
 
 you need to specify the device, take a look at
 
 # ls /dev/dsp*
 /dev/dsp0.0/dev/dsp0.1/dev/dsp1.0/dev/dsp2.0/dev/dsp2.1
 
 for example, i can send audio output to headphone jack:
 # mplayer -zoom -x 1280 -y 720 -fs -ao oss:/dev/dsp1 -mixer /dev/mixer2
 /path/to/file

For tests you might even record and playback the recorded with, for
example:

# dd if=/dev/dsp0 of=/tmp/recorded
# cat /tmp/recorded  /dev/dsp0

 Haven't tried skype on FreeBSD but there should be a device setting. I've
 noticed that some machines seem to automatically switch, ie when I plug in
 headphones to the headphone jack or a mic into a microphone jack it just
 works. But other machines don't work automatically and I have to set the
 device manually as above. A simple way, you can try setting each device to
 see which one works. :)

yes, Skype allows to configure this even on top of the emulation of
Linux; I do it all days

matthias
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Re: built-in mic configuration [compaq presario laptop]

2012-08-25 Thread Alexander Kapshuk

On 08/25/2012 09:50 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:

For tests you might even record and playback the recorded with, for
example:

# dd if=/dev/dsp0 of=/tmp/recorded
# cat /tmp/recorded  /dev/dsp0

   

Thanks. I'll fiddle with that.

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Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-30 Thread doug



On Wed, 30 May 2012, Julian H. Stacey wrote:


Hi,
Reference:

From:   Brian W. br...@brianwhalen.net
Date:   Tue, 29 May 2012 22:48:20 -0700
Message-id: 
CADV=szwzm0_nl-wo0yqjuwsywdthscunnnzlcbhbfp56sra...@mail.gmail.com


Brian W. wrote:

On May 29, 2012 10:28 PM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote:


On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote:

I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.

I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
will not work as expected.

when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I

login,

all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has

gone

dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the

cli

window.

All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet

works,

and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no

value).


Suggestions would be very appreciated.


I don't know about the mouse dieing.  I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that

once or twice when first setting up X.  You don't need to reboot.  Do

altFn to switch to a different vty.  Log in on that vty, do a ps to

find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM
that process.  That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original
vty.  Do altF1 to go back to that screen.


Gary


Ctr-alt-shift-backspace has also killed many a stuck x session.


 you can also, from another host (perhaps also running X,
so you still have full convenience/comfort :-) do an
 rlogin or ssh or telnet stuckhost
 then do
ps -laxww  /tmp/t ; vi /tmp/t
look at the columns PID  PPID (parent of Process ID)
ls -ltr /var/log
not only to find  kill stuck stuff, but to analyse what is getting stuck,
failing,  what is called from where, etc.

Cheers,
Julian


If you have not, look at .xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log, and kdm's log. All this 
can be done via ssh of course and is much easier to do that way with a working 
GUI et all.


Flop the hal setttings, e.g. off if on and vise versa. Also you can try xdm and 
startx to see if you get any different symptoms. My last idea is to use tmw with 
xdm or startx. If you still get the error at least you know its Xorg and not 
kde.

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kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-29 Thread Jim Pazarena

I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.

I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
will not work as expected.

when I type kdm  (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login,
all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone
dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli
window.

All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works,
and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value).

Suggestions would be very appreciated.
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Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-29 Thread Gary Aitken
On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote:
 I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.
 
 I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
 will not work as expected.
 
 when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
 I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I login,
 all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has gone
 dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the cli
 window.
 
 All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
 If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet works,
 and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no value).
 
 Suggestions would be very appreciated.

I don't know about the mouse dieing.  I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that once 
or twice when first setting up X.  You don't need to reboot.  Do altFn to 
switch to a different vty.  Log in on that vty, do a ps to find the process you 
used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM that process.  That 
should get you back to a regular prompt on the original vty.  Do altF1 to 
go back to that screen.

Gary
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Re: kde4 on 8.3 and laptop

2012-05-29 Thread Brian W.
On May 29, 2012 10:28 PM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org wrote:

 On 05/29/12 22:15, Jim Pazarena wrote:
  I had kde3 running just fine on 8.2 on my laptop.
 
  I have now installed 8.3 -and- kde4 on my laptop, and the kde system
  will not work as expected.
 
  when I type kdm (which is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm)
  I get the expected login screen (however the mouse dies), and after I
login,
  all I get is a small cli window in the top left corner. The mouse has
gone
  dead, and the keyboard doesn't respond, altho there is a prompt in the
cli
  window.
 
  All I can do at this point is hold the power button in to reboot.
  If I do not try running kdm, the normal cli works 100%, the ethernet
works,
  and the mouse always seems alive (altho in the cli the mouse is of no
value).
 
  Suggestions would be very appreciated.

 I don't know about the mouse dieing.  I'm running 9.0 and I've seen that
once or twice when first setting up X.  You don't need to reboot.  Do
altFn to switch to a different vty.  Log in on that vty, do a ps to
find the process you used to start kdm, (ps -ax | grep kdm) and kill -TERM
that process.  That should get you back to a regular prompt on the original
vty.  Do altF1 to go back to that screen.

 Gary

Ctr-alt-shift-backspace has also killed many a stuck x session.
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Re: ACPI temprature settings [WAS: Re: laptop very hot and noisy]

2012-05-09 Thread Chris Whitehouse

On 08/05/2012 15:06, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:


Anyway, this was easier than I expected.
I removed a lot of dust from the fan
and the heat sink gills. I also replaced
the thermal material.


I prop my mine up off the desk to get better airflow to the fan intake 
which is on the underside. The fan slows down when I lift it up 
indicating it is moving more air.




I rebuilt gcc47 and saw the highest temperature of 75.
This is on the southern side, so not too bad. The
noise reduced too.

Now, I'd just like to understand better the
meaning of these console messages:

May  8 15:00:08 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC3: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 40.0
May  8 15:00:08 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC2: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 50.0
May  8 15:00:18 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC3: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 40.0
May  8 15:00:18 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC2: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 50.0
May  8 15:00:28 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC3: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 40.0
May  8 15:00:28 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC2: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 50.0
May  8 15:00:38 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC3: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 40.0
May  8 15:00:38 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC2: temperature 64.0= 
setpoint 50.0
May  8 15:00:48 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC3: temperature 65.0= 
setpoint 40.0
May  8 15:00:48 mech-aslap239 kernel: acpi_tz0: _AC2: temperature 65.0= 
setpoint 50.0

Where are setpoints defined?
What's acpi_tz?
What are AC1, AC2, AC3?
Which kernel tunables are involved in the
switching from one fan speed to another
(assuming AC1, AC2, AC3 are related to fan
speed in some way)?

I had a quick look at ⌡aacpi(4),
but none of the above are mentioned.

Many thanks for all your help.

Google for acpi_tz0: _CRT value is absurd,  ignored and you will find 
a long thread with some hopefully useful pointers. You may need to bone 
up on the ACPI reference and custom ASL's for FreeBSD. I've forgotten 
most of it now but I think you will find references for both of them in 
that thread.


Chris
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Re: laptop very hot and noisy

2012-05-02 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 2 May 2012 06:19:50 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:52:11 Polytropon wrote:
  On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:41:11 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:25:11AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
  
  Not a big issue. Make sure you can remember which parts belong where.
  Make photos if it helps you, or draw some notes. If possible, find
  the service manual of the device and use it as orientation. But I
  think such kind of documentation is no longer part of the end user
  book present. :-)
  
 you cannot say this in general.

I didn't intend to. From my limited experience (considering modern
home consumer throw-away laptops and netbooks) there's hardly any
usable documentation. A start-up guide is among the few printed
materials. DVDs often contain drivers and a few instructions (e. g.
how to plug in the power supply), but things starting with opening
the device are typically left out. However, I welcome manufacturers
providing service manuals so a skilled user can use them. A typical
problem (as you described) can appear when special screwdrivers,
glue, spare parts or other tools are needed for repair that cannot
be purchased freely (or easily). In such cases, repair attempts
would often be more expensive than replacing the whole device.



  I've been lucky exploring that my new Lenovo Thinkpad T61p can be
 
 This is a different class of machines. They are made to be
 repaired and they are very large.

Both is correct, and I'm happy of that. :-)



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Re: laptop very hot and noisy

2012-05-02 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Wednesday 02 May 2012 19:09:56 Polytropon wrote:
 On Wed, 2 May 2012 06:19:50 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:52:11 Polytropon wrote:
   On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:41:11 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:25:11AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
   
   Not a big issue. Make sure you can remember which parts belong where.
   Make photos if it helps you, or draw some notes. If possible, find
   the service manual of the device and use it as orientation. But I
   think such kind of documentation is no longer part of the end user
   book present. :-)
   
  you cannot say this in general.
 
 I didn't intend to. From my limited experience (considering modern
 home consumer throw-away laptops and netbooks) there's hardly any
 usable documentation. A start-up guide is among the few printed
 materials. DVDs often contain drivers and a few instructions (e. g.

even with the professional class, it is the same.

 how to plug in the power supply), but things starting with opening
 the device are typically left out. However, I welcome manufacturers
 providing service manuals so a skilled user can use them. A typical
 problem (as you described) can appear when special screwdrivers,

The said thing is that they all have but not all publish them.

 glue, spare parts or other tools are needed for repair that cannot
 be purchased freely (or easily). In such cases, repair attempts
 would often be more expensive than replacing the whole device.

Not with the professional class machines. But the chemicals needed are a 
problem there too.
 
   I've been lucky exploring that my new Lenovo Thinkpad T61p can be
  
  This is a different class of machines. They are made to be
  repaired and they are very large.
 
 Both is correct, and I'm happy of that. :-)

The largest screen I ever have had was 13.3. They did not have anything 
smaller those days. My best experience comes from a 10 LCD. I have had to 
settle now for 12.5. Ok, it has one plus. The keys are of normal size. And I 
learned that the machine is very robust again.

Erich
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Re: laptop very hot and noisy

2012-05-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Tuesday 01 May 2012 20:52:11 Polytropon wrote:
 On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:41:11 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:25:11AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
 
 Not a big issue. Make sure you can remember which parts belong where.
 Make photos if it helps you, or draw some notes. If possible, find
 the service manual of the device and use it as orientation. But I
 think such kind of documentation is no longer part of the end user
 book present. :-)
 
you cannot say this in general.

 I've been lucky exploring that my new Lenovo Thinkpad T61p can be

This is a different class of machines. They are made to be repaired and they 
are very large.

I have had a Fujitsu P2120 which died after a lightning strike. So, I 
disassembled it. The machine is so small that they have had to use all tricks 
get it this small.

The most interesting thing for me was the affect of damage to this machine. It 
got hit by something like a sledge hammer when it was not with me. This bend 
the magnesia cover but did not cause any internal damage. The material is very 
brittle but no metal dust fell into the machine.

 easily disassembled up to the CPU region and the cooling units
 without trouble, and with _standard_ tools, and you don't need
 to eviscerate _all_ the bowels of the device in order to make
 your way to that component.

The P2120 uses even a special glue to connect the graphics chip with the hear 
sink. The heat sink cools also the CPU. There is no way on this machine to take 
the heat sink off and later back, if this glue is not at hand.

Erich
 
 
 
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 Polytropon
 Magdeburg, Germany
 Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-16 Thread Dave
On 15 Feb 2012 at 17:25, Fbsd8 wrote:

 I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a
 small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the handbook
 about this so I am asking here.
 
 How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen?
 
 

Many Toshiba laptops have a feature in the BIOS (Stretch or Expand) so 
that a 640x480 text screen (for example) will fill the full disaply, 
whatever the physical pixel resolution is.   Looks weird, but it does 
what it says.

Regards.

Dave B.

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laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-15 Thread Fbsd8
I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a 
small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the handbook 
about this so I am asking here.


How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen?
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Re: laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-15 Thread Da Rock

On 02/15/12 19:25, Fbsd8 wrote:
I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a 
small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the handbook 
about this so I am asking here.


How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen?

You are talking about a terminal screen and not X Windows?
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Re: laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-15 Thread Da Rock

On 02/15/12 20:12, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/15/12 19:25, Fbsd8 wrote:
I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a 
small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the 
handbook about this so I am asking here.


How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen?

You are talking about a terminal screen and not X Windows?

If you are talking of the terminal screen, then check man vidcontrol.
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Re: laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-15 Thread kron

On 2012/02/15 10:25, Fbsd8 wrote:

I installed 9.0 on a Toshiba laptop. The Freebsd console only fills a
small box in the center of the screen. I found nothing in the handbook
about this so I am asking here.

How do I get the console to fill to whole laptop screen?


I met it earlier a few times on various notebooks and
I think it has nothing to do with FreeBSD per se. On
some notebooks I changed it via *BIOS* settings but
usually didn't care at all - I use X sessions mostly...

HTH
Oli
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re. laptop freebsd display not filling whole screen

2012-02-15 Thread herbert langhans
My IBM Thinkpad does that trick. But its some hardware-function and can
be switched via special key + FN8. Maybe download the service or
installation manual for your laptop and find some option? Maybe
also something in the setup?

Cheers
herb langhans

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9.0-RELEASE: Strange freezing and kernel panics on laptop

2012-02-15 Thread Ramiro Caso

Hi,

I'm in need of advice. I've recently installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on my 
laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1318) with a good deal of success. However, I've 
been experiencing a few hiccups, to say the least. The kernel is the 
GENERIC for the amd64 architecture that comes with the installation 
images (no funny compilation issues on my part):


$ uname -a
FreeBSD apeiron 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 
07:46:30 UTC 2012

r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Since I've installed it, the system has been freezing for apparently no 
reason and, once in a while, rebooting upon a kernel panic. The kernel 
panics come in two varieties:


Fatal Trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode
Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

I have the dump files. [Concerning the Fatal Trap 12: I ran memtest86+ 
and everything turned out alright on the memory side.]


As for the recurrent freezing, it seems to me (but this is a hunch) that 
it might be related to wireless card issues (since, for what I can 
recall, it happens some time after I start having connection issues). 
Also, every time I do a netif restart, the system just freezes after 
displaying two lines:


bwn0: need multicast update callback
TODO: need swap

[In order not to raise side issues, I have a fully working LP PHY 
Broadcom 4312 (except for these issues), and I have hw.bwn.usedma=0 in 
loader.conf---but the freezing thing happens whether it is set to 1 or 
0.] A quick inspection to log files reveals some pattern in 
/var/log/messages:


===

Feb 10 19:01:59 apeiron wpa_supplicant[464]: WPA: Group rekeying 
completed with 68:7f:74:e9:d6:91 [GTK=TKIP]

Feb 10 19:22:02 apeiron kernel: bwn0: unexpected NULL ni
Feb 10 19:27:07 apeiron syslogd: kernel boot file is 
/boot/kernel/kernel

[...]
Feb 10 19:27:07 apeiron savecore: reboot after panic: general 
protection fault

Feb 10 19:27:07 apeiron savecore: writing core to vmcore.0


Feb 11 21:39:40 apeiron wpa_supplicant[464]: WPA: Group rekeying 
completed with 68:7f:74:e9:d6:91 [GTK=TKIP]

Feb 11 21:39:47 apeiron kernel: bwn0: device timeout
Feb 11 21:44:38 apeiron kernel: bwn0: unexpected NULL ni
Feb 11 21:44:38 apeiron kernel: bwn0: unexpected NULL ni
Feb 11 21:47:33 apeiron syslogd: kernel boot file is 
/boot/kernel/kernel



Feb 12 17:23:47 apeiron wpa_supplicant[464]: WPA: Group rekeying 
completed with 68:7f:74:e9:d6:91 [GTK=TKIP]

Feb 12 18:20:32 apeiron kernel: bwn0: device timeout
Feb 12 18:22:23 apeiron kernel: bwn0: unexpected NULL ni
Feb 12 18:31:49 apeiron syslogd: kernel boot file is 
/boot/kernel/kernel



Feb 13 17:16:43 apeiron kernel: bwn0: device timeout
Feb 13 17:21:39 apeiron kernel: bwn0: unexpected NULL ni
Feb 13 17:22:40 apeiron syslogd: kernel boot file is 
/boot/kernel/kernel

[...]
Feb 13 17:22:40 apeiron savecore: reboot after panic: page fault
Feb 13 17:22:40 apeiron savecore: writing core to vmcore.1


Feb 14 11:40:49 apeiron wpa_supplicant[464]: WPA: Group rekeying 
completed with 68:7f:74:e9:d6:91 [GTK=TKIP]

Feb 14 12:02:23 apeiron kernel: bwn0: device timeout
Feb 14 12:03:52 apeiron kernel: bwn0: unexpected NULL ni
Feb 14 12:12:27 apeiron kernel: , 2265.
Feb 14 12:13:10 apeiron syslogd: kernel boot file is 
/boot/kernel/kernel


===

As for the panics, they immediately follow two of the messages above, as 
you can appreciate in the quote.


Maybe the following can help (or not!!). In /var/log/messages, the 
following two lines keep showing:


  acpi0: reservation of 0, 9f000 (3) failed
  acpi0: reservation of 10, 7f56d800 (3) failed

Needless to say, this won't discourage me from using FreeBSD on my 
laptop, but it isn't very pleasant to have these kind of problems while 
working. Right now, the workaround I implemented is to use a Linksys 
wireless adapter I had sleeping in its box. However, being able to use 
the Broadcom card would be nice. Any help would be appreciated, if 
nothing else, to understand what's happening.


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9.0-RELEASE: Strange freezing and kernel panics on laptop

2012-02-14 Thread Ramiro Caso

Hi,

I'm in need of advice. I've recently installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on my 
laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1318) with a good deal of success. However, I've 
been experiencing a few hiccups, to say the least. The kernel is the 
GENERIC for the amd64 architecture that comes with the installation 
images (no funny compilation issues on my part):


  $ uname -a
  FreeBSD apeiron 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 
07:46:30 UTC 2012

  r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Since I've installed it, the system has been freezing for apparently no 
reason and, once in a while, rebooting upon a kernel panic. The kernel 
panics come in two varieties:


  Fatal Trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode
  Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

I have the dump files. [Concerning the Fatal Trap 12: I ran memtest86+ 
and everything turned out alright on the memory side.]


As for the recurrent freezing, it seems to me (but this is a hunch) that 
it might be related to wireless card issues (since, for what I can 
recall, it happens some time after I start having conection issues). 
Also, everytime I do a netif restart, the system just freezes after 
displaying two lines:


  bwn0: need multicast update callback
  TODO: need swap

[In order not to raise side issues, I have a fully working LP PHY 
Broadcom 4312 (except for these issues), and I have hw.bwn.usedma=0 in 
loader.conf---but the freezing thing happens whether it is set to 1 or 
0.] And that's about it. In particular, nothing shows in 
/var/log/messages. As for the panics, I'm clueless.


Maybe the following can help (or not!!). In /var/log/messages, the 
following two lines keep showing:


  acpi0: reservation of 0, 9f000 (3) failed
  acpi0: reservation of 10, 7f56d800 (3) failed

Needless to say, this won't discourage me from using FreeBSD on my 
laptop, but it isn't very funny to have these kind of problems while 
doing some work. Any help would be appreciated, if nothing else, to 
understand what's happening.


Thanks!
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Lenovo athlon laptop

2011-12-22 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Hello,

I bought a lenovo laptop (cpu amd dual core, graphics is radeon 6250

Everything woks, except the graphics that only works with driver vga at
1024x768.

if I use the ati  driver, it works in 1366x800 (that is the panel
resolution,
it works ok, but ONLY ONCE, that is, the gdm program opens the 
login menu, I log in, works all the applications: libreoffice, nautilus,
firefox,
audio, video 
but when I log off, then gdm resets the display and all I can see it is
a black screen.
if I reset the screen several times (about 16 times , by killing gdm)
using an ssh session... 
the login screen appears OK...

Seems that the ati driver is mapping the fb wrong...

Thanks for any help,

Sergio
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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-20 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote:

The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 Radeon 
mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU.


Sorry, I can't find any specs for a CQ62 with both ATI and NVidia. 
There's a trademark name for the dual GPU systems, at least the 
Intel-plus-something-else kind, but I can't recall it.


The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% sure 
which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. There could be 
yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember.


That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember),


The start of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting, both for the 
version of FreeBSD and the version of xorg-server.  I don't think I 
have anything with dual PCIe X16 slots to test.


and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using 
freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support 
in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ).


From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been 
discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when dealing 
with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with getting an arbiter 
for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally.


Usually it's finding someone able to do the work that's willing to do 
the work.  The Foundation is funding some of that, and I've heard 
they're interested in getting the KMS for the Radeon driver going.

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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-20 Thread Da Rock

On 12/21/11 07:39, Warren Block wrote:

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote:

The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 
Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU.


Sorry, I can't find any specs for a CQ62 with both ATI and NVidia. 
There's a trademark name for the dual GPU systems, at least the 
Intel-plus-something-else kind, but I can't recall it.

No, no- you won't. Both cards in the laptop are ATI.

The HTPC has an onboard NVidia, and a PCIe 16x ATI.


The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 
100% sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 
3450. There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember.


That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember),


The start of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting, both for the 
version of FreeBSD and the version of xorg-server.  I don't think I 
have anything with dual PCIe X16 slots to test.
I'll have to look closer at it when I get a spare breath, it is a little 
intriguing.


and the laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using 
freebsd-update to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 
support in 8.x (tried for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ).


From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been 
discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when 
dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with 
getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally.


Usually it's finding someone able to do the work that's willing to do 
the work.  The Foundation is funding some of that, and I've heard 
they're interested in getting the KMS for the Radeon driver going.
Is there anyone here that _can_ do the work? What about mentoring? As 
for the financials... thats something else to consider.

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Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-19 Thread Da Rock
I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come 
across a satisfactory answer.


I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm 
trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load 
fbdev because there is no data module.


I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using 
the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected.


I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. 
Still working with the config file, but it seems fine.


WTF? This is essentially the same hardware as another laptop I've setup 
(same video card - same brand CPU, just bigger and faster), and its 
fine. Both are AMD, the original is athlon dual core, the new is phenom 
quad core.


The googling failed as my searches came up with either root has access 
and user doesn't, or mixed intel/ati. Neither are the case here...


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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-19 Thread Da Rock

On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote:
I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come 
across a satisfactory answer.


I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm 
trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load 
fbdev because there is no data module.


I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still 
using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices 
detected.


I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. 
Still working with the config file, but it seems fine.
correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with 
before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad 
core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg 
-config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up 
and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the 
system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I 
came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on 
yet another laptop- it froze the system too.


BTW, who says multicard vga is rare?
WTF? This is essentially the same hardware as another laptop I've 
setup (same video card - same brand CPU, just bigger and faster), and 
its fine. Both are AMD, the original is athlon dual core, the new is 
phenom quad core.


The googling failed as my searches came up with either root has access 
and user doesn't, or mixed intel/ati. Neither are the case here...


Cheers
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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-19 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote:


On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote:
I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't come 
across a satisfactory answer.


I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm trying 
to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to load fbdev 
because there is no data module.


I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still using the 
builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No devices detected.


I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 displays. Still 
working with the config file, but it seems fine.
correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with before 
(I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad core, uses a 
radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg -config 
/root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up and I can't 
even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut the system down. 
Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last time I came across this 
level of issue was with a solo vintage intel card on yet another laptop- it 
froze the system too.


BTW, who says multicard vga is rare?


Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one 
from another vendor for higher performance.  There's hot-switching 
between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD.  There may be 
a BIOS option to disable one or the other.  There should still be two 
video outputs.


More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also 
unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK:

(WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-19 Thread Da Rock

On 12/20/11 03:05, Warren Block wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote:


On 12/19/11 21:31, Da Rock wrote:
I hate to come with this kind of a query, but my googling hasn't 
come across a satisfactory answer.


I'm running an install on a brand new laptop for a client, and I'm 
trying to get X up using xdm- nothing. The logs says it failed to 
load fbdev because there is no data module.


I try uninstalling fbdev and running a rebuild of xorg- its still 
using the builtin configuration and still can't load fbdev. No 
devices detected.


I run Xorg -configure, and it shows the radeon card fine, 2 
displays. Still working with the config file, but it seems fine.
correction - its dual display issue that I've never had trouble with 
before (I also have installed on a HTPC with same memory, phenom quad 
core, uses a radeon HD card and a NVidia HD card). And no, the Xorg 
-config /root/xorg.conf.new [-retro] doesn't work as it is locking up 
and I can't even ctl-alt-backspace, I have to acpi power off to shut 
the system down. Google's still not giving me any hope... :( Last 
time I came across this level of issue was with a solo vintage intel 
card on yet another laptop- it froze the system too.


BTW, who says multicard vga is rare?


Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one 
from another vendor for higher performance.  There's hot-switching 
between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD.  There may 
be a BIOS option to disable one or the other.  There should still be 
two video outputs.


More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also 
unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK:

(WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly 
then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) 
- probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users.


What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a 
problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card 
and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD 
has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird...


So what are my options then? I have 2 high performance cards I can't 
use? VESA is not exactly an exciting solution - or secure: it somehow 
retains the image displayed in memory, and shows it as it loads up X the 
next time.

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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-19 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote:

Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with one from 
another vendor for higher performance.  There's hot-switching between the 
two, but AFAIK it's not supported in FreeBSD.  There may be a BIOS option 
to disable one or the other.  There should still be two video outputs.


More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is also 
unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK:

(WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty quickly 
then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing by the way) - 
probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users.


What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a problem 
because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI card and NVidia 
onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and that FBSD has no problem 
like this either; it just works. Weird...


It's difficult to tell what you're saying.  It's possible that multiple 
cards would work in some combinations, and just that the ones I tried 
did not.  Also, you're talking about two systems, a laptop and a 
desktop.  So it would be good to get some specifics, like laptop brand 
and model, whether the desktop dual-card setup worked with FreeBSD (and 
which version of FreeBSD).

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Re: Xorg error: New athlon laptop, radeonhd video - unable to load fbdev

2011-12-19 Thread Da Rock

On 12/20/11 14:33, Warren Block wrote:

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Da Rock wrote:

Some newer laptops have dual GPUs, an onboard Intel combined with 
one from another vendor for higher performance.  There's 
hot-switching between the two, but AFAIK it's not supported in 
FreeBSD.  There may be a BIOS option to disable one or the other.  
There should still be two video outputs.


More than one video card at a time is a different issue, which is 
also unsupported on FreeBSD AFAIK:

(WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
It appears that it is something that needs to be resolved pretty 
quickly then. The linux guys jumped on it quick as (I'm not ribbing 
by the way) - probably their guys came across it sooner than BSD users.


What has thrown me is the fact that I didn't even consider it as a 
problem because I already had installed on a dual video system- ATI 
card and NVidia onboard, both that will work on a linux system, and 
that FBSD has no problem like this either; it just works. Weird...


It's difficult to tell what you're saying.  It's possible that 
multiple cards would work in some combinations, and just that the ones 
I tried did not.  Also, you're talking about two systems, a laptop and 
a desktop.  So it would be good to get some specifics, like laptop 
brand and model, whether the desktop dual-card setup worked with 
FreeBSD (and which version of FreeBSD).
NP. I thought I was clear, but I'm not always coherent when I 
communicate (apparently... just ask the missus :) ).


The laptop is a compaq cq62 with a quad core phenom and a ATI 4200 
Radeon mobility GPU, as well as 6300 GPU.


The HTPC/desktop is a whitebox quad core phenom on a ASUS MB (not 100% 
sure which) with a NVidia onboard pcie GPU, and an ATI Radeon 3450. 
There could be yet another GPU on there, but I can't remember.


That system is running 8.x FBSD (1 or 2- can't quite remember), and the 
laptop I'm installing 9.0-RC3 on, with the view to using freebsd-update 
to RELEASE, because of the lack of Atheros 9285 support in 8.x (tried 
for hours, just couldn't get the bird to fly :( ).


From what I understand now, having been able assimilate what has been 
discussed here and through google, it seems there is a conflict when 
dealing with multiple onboard GPUs. What exactly is the issue with 
getting an arbiter for FreeBSD? Aside from time, naturally.

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Re: Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-09 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:03 AM, 文鳥 bunc...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am typing this message on a W520 running 9.0 stable, which should be
 similar enough to the T520.

 - MBR boot works fine, but GPT seems to be impossible (Lenovo
  appears to have messed up again).
 - The NVidia driver is working almost perfectly once you enforce it in
  BIOS, but occasionally (3 times in last 2.5 months) the screen starts
  displaying a strange block pattern after some time and renders the
  display unusable until I restart X (logging in via SSH works, as does
  the power button == ACPI shutdown). Haven't been able track the cause
  down yet.
 - Suspend seems to be unreliable, so I stopped trying (back on BETA2).
 - acpi_ibm.ko works once you patch sys/dev/acpi_support/acpi_ibm.c,
  line 338, and replace IBM0068 with LEN0068, which makes most of
  the multimedia keys usable.
 - Wireless is working (iwn), but I'm not using it that frequently so
  YMMV.
 - I cannot comment on bluetooth, camera or SD card reader, since I
  never use those.

 But there is one annoying problem I did not manage to fix yet: The
 screen brightness control does not work at all, i.e. it's always at
 maximum (hw.acpi.video sysctls seem to have no effect). All in all, this
 laptop is a nice desktop replacement, just don't expect the battery to
 last too long.

 Best regards

When you say that suspending seems unreliable, do you mean that it
sometimes work? Did you try unloading kernel modules before putting it
in sleep mode to see if it makes a difference?
About screen brightness, I thought there was a setting in xorg.conf
that made it to work?

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Re: Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-09 Thread 띆井 Pierre
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:18:17 -0500
Pierre-Luc Drouin pldro...@pldrouin.net wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:03 AM, 文鳥 bunc...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am typing this message on a W520 running 9.0 stable, which should
  be similar enough to the T520.
 
  - MBR boot works fine, but GPT seems to be impossible (Lenovo
   appears to have messed up again).
  - The NVidia driver is working almost perfectly once you enforce it
  in BIOS, but occasionally (3 times in last 2.5 months) the screen
  starts displaying a strange block pattern after some time and
  renders the display unusable until I restart X (logging in via SSH
  works, as does the power button == ACPI shutdown). Haven't been
  able track the cause down yet.
  - Suspend seems to be unreliable, so I stopped trying (back on
  BETA2).
  - acpi_ibm.ko works once you patch sys/dev/acpi_support/acpi_ibm.c,
   line 338, and replace IBM0068 with LEN0068, which makes most of
   the multimedia keys usable.
  - Wireless is working (iwn), but I'm not using it that frequently so
   YMMV.
  - I cannot comment on bluetooth, camera or SD card reader, since I
   never use those.
 
  But there is one annoying problem I did not manage to fix yet: The
  screen brightness control does not work at all, i.e. it's always at
  maximum (hw.acpi.video sysctls seem to have no effect). All in all,
  this laptop is a nice desktop replacement, just don't expect the
  battery to last too long.
 
  Best regards
 
 When you say that suspending seems unreliable, do you mean that it
 sometimes work? Did you try unloading kernel modules before putting it
 in sleep mode to see if it makes a difference?
 About screen brightness, I thought there was a setting in xorg.conf
 that made it to work?
 
 Cheers

Suspending the laptop seemed to work when I was not using X and running
GENERIC. I tried again just now, first without unloading, then removing
a few kernel modules, but it did not help. If I find time, I'll
investigate further.

If there is a setting to xorg.conf that does work for setting the
screen brightness, please tell me. Everything I tried so far turned out
negative, but maybe there's something I overlooked. 

cheers
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Re: Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-09 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:50:23 +0100, 띆井 Pierre wrote:
 If there is a setting to xorg.conf that does work for setting the
 screen brightness, please tell me. Everything I tried so far turned out
 negative, but maybe there's something I overlooked. 

Don't modern laptops come with keys (or key combinations,
usually Fn + Cursor or Fn + PF key) to adjust brightness
and contrast, or has this lowest-level functionality
finally moved into the world of software, i. e. drivers?



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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-09 Thread 文鳥
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:18:17 -0500
Pierre-Luc Drouin pldro...@pldrouin.net wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:03 AM, 文鳥 bunc...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am typing this message on a W520 running 9.0 stable, which should
  be similar enough to the T520.
 
  - MBR boot works fine, but GPT seems to be impossible (Lenovo
   appears to have messed up again).
  - The NVidia driver is working almost perfectly once you enforce it
  in BIOS, but occasionally (3 times in last 2.5 months) the screen
  starts displaying a strange block pattern after some time and
  renders the display unusable until I restart X (logging in via SSH
  works, as does the power button == ACPI shutdown). Haven't been
  able track the cause down yet.
  - Suspend seems to be unreliable, so I stopped trying (back on
  BETA2).
  - acpi_ibm.ko works once you patch sys/dev/acpi_support/acpi_ibm.c,
   line 338, and replace IBM0068 with LEN0068, which makes most of
   the multimedia keys usable.
  - Wireless is working (iwn), but I'm not using it that frequently so
   YMMV.
  - I cannot comment on bluetooth, camera or SD card reader, since I
   never use those.
 
  But there is one annoying problem I did not manage to fix yet: The
  screen brightness control does not work at all, i.e. it's always at
  maximum (hw.acpi.video sysctls seem to have no effect). All in all,
  this laptop is a nice desktop replacement, just don't expect the
  battery to last too long.
 
  Best regards
 
 When you say that suspending seems unreliable, do you mean that it
 sometimes work? Did you try unloading kernel modules before putting it
 in sleep mode to see if it makes a difference?
 About screen brightness, I thought there was a setting in xorg.conf
 that made it to work?
 
 Cheers

OK, now I feel foolish now: I _had_ tried the RegistryDwords
EnableBrightnessControl=1 setting once, but had a typo in it and
didn't notice. Now I brightness control also works. So the only
remaining problem really is putting the machine to sleep. Should teach
me not to accept failure to quickly ;)

Best regards, and thanks for the tip.
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Re: Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-09 Thread 文鳥
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 19:05:26 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:50:23 +0100, 띆井 Pierre wrote:
  If there is a setting to xorg.conf that does work for setting the
  screen brightness, please tell me. Everything I tried so far turned
  out negative, but maybe there's something I overlooked. 
 
 Don't modern laptops come with keys (or key combinations,
 usually Fn + Cursor or Fn + PF key) to adjust brightness
 and contrast, or has this lowest-level functionality
 finally moved into the world of software, i. e. drivers?
 

At first I thought so too, but apparently you need the right drivers to
get some of the keys to work: Now I am finally able to control the
brightness by pressing Fn + Home/End, but only thanks to the
co-operation of the acpi_video  acpi_ibm modules and the nvidia
driver (which needs the RegistryDwords EnableBrightnessControl=1
option in xorg.conf).

And just to make things more complicated: the keyboard light and mixer
mute keys seem to still be hard-wired and thus do not need driver
support...
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Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-08 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
Hi,

so which current 14 Lenovo laptop is the best for FreeBSD
compatibility right now? Is it the T420 with the Nvidia card (Nvidia
card forced in the BIOS)? Sleep modes work with the T420, right? And I
guess Intel Wi-Fi cards are the most supported ones, right?

Thanks!
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Re: Which Lenovo Laptop?

2011-12-08 Thread 文鳥
Hi,

I am typing this message on a W520 running 9.0 stable, which should be
similar enough to the T520.

- MBR boot works fine, but GPT seems to be impossible (Lenovo
  appears to have messed up again).
- The NVidia driver is working almost perfectly once you enforce it in
  BIOS, but occasionally (3 times in last 2.5 months) the screen starts
  displaying a strange block pattern after some time and renders the
  display unusable until I restart X (logging in via SSH works, as does
  the power button == ACPI shutdown). Haven't been able track the cause
  down yet.
- Suspend seems to be unreliable, so I stopped trying (back on BETA2).
- acpi_ibm.ko works once you patch sys/dev/acpi_support/acpi_ibm.c,
  line 338, and replace IBM0068 with LEN0068, which makes most of
  the multimedia keys usable.
- Wireless is working (iwn), but I'm not using it that frequently so
  YMMV.
- I cannot comment on bluetooth, camera or SD card reader, since I
  never use those.

But there is one annoying problem I did not manage to fix yet: The
screen brightness control does not work at all, i.e. it's always at
maximum (hw.acpi.video sysctls seem to have no effect). All in all, this
laptop is a nice desktop replacement, just don't expect the battery to
last too long.

Best regards
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Progress of Intel GEM/KMS/DRI laptop video driver?

2011-09-24 Thread Xn Nooby
I have read about a patch for Intel video that might make it into
Release 9.0, is there any way to know if it is in 9.0-current?  I
installed the 9 beta 2 snapshot, but I don't think the video support
was there. (Next time I will check the compatibility list!)

The patch is for Intel laptop video support, and is mentioned here:

http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2011/02/freebsd-foundation-announces-new.html

The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that Konstantin
Belousov has been awarded a grant to implement support of GEM, KMS,
and DRI for Intel Drivers. This project is being co-sponsored by
iXsystems.

The project is to implement GEM, port KMS, and write new DRI drivers
for Intel Graphics, including the latest Sandy Bridge generation of
integrated graphic units. The work should allow the latest Intel
open-source driver to run on FreeBSD, expanding the range of hardware
where FreeBSD is suitable for the desktop.
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Install 8.2-Release AMD64 on Laptop with Raid0

2011-07-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have not used RAID before.

I have a laptop (new to me) with windows 7 and RAID0.

I want to install 8.2-Release and retain the Raid0.

I booted the 8.2-Release AMD64 DVD and exited to Fixit.

pciconf -lv shows

atapci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010400 card=0x159b103c chip=0x282a8086
rev=0x05 hdr=0x00
  class= mass storage
  subclass=RAID

I attached portions of dmesg below.

sysinstall shows 3 choices for disk drives.  ad4(600G), ad6(600G),
ar0(RAID0)

I want to use RAID0 and use the entire disk, partitioned by 'A'.

Which disk do I select for installation?

tomdean

From dmesg, 
ad4: 610480MB TOSHIBA MK6461GSYN MH000C at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA
3Gb/s
ad4: 1250263728 sectors [1240341C/16H/63S] 16 sectors/interrupt 1 depth
queue
GEOM: new disk ad4
battery0: battery initialization done, tried 1 times
* ATA Intel MatrixRAID Metadata *
intel_idIntel Raid ISM Cfg Sig. 
version 1.0.00
checksum0x18a624f5
config_size 0x01e0
config_id   0x07e20939
generation  0x0067
total_disks 2
total_volumes   1
DISK#   serial disk_sectors disk_id flags
0   61ABD08TB 1250263728 0x 0x053a
1   61ABD08SB 1250263728 0x0001 0x053a
nameRAID-0
total_sectors   2500517888
state   4108
reserved0
offset  0
disk_sectors1250259208
stripe_count19535296
stripe_sectors  64
status  0
typeRAID0
total_disks 2
magic[0]0x01
magic[1]0xff
magic[2]0x01
disk 0 at disk_idx 0x
disk 1 at disk_idx 0x0001
=
ata3: Identifying devices: 0001
ata3: New devices: 0001
ata3-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire
ad6: setting UDMA100
ad6: 610480MB TOSHIBA MK6461GSYN MH000C at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA
3Gb/s
ad6: 1250263728 sectors [1240341C/16H/63S] 16 sectors/interrupt 1 depth
queue
GEOM: ad4: partition 4 does not start on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 4 does not end on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 3 does not start on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 3 does not end on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 2 does not start on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 2 does not end on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 1 does not start on a track boundary.
GEOM: ad4: partition 1 does not end on a track boundary.
GEOM: new disk ad6
* ATA Intel MatrixRAID Metadata *
intel_idIntel Raid ISM Cfg Sig. 
version 1.0.00
checksum0x18a624f5
config_size 0x01e0
config_id   0x07e20939
generation  0x0067
total_disks 2
total_volumes   1
DISK#   serial disk_sectors disk_id flags
0   61ABD08TB 1250263728 0x 0x053a
1   61ABD08SB 1250263728 0x0001 0x053a
nameRAID-0
total_sectors   2500517888
state   4108
reserved0
offset  0
disk_sectors1250259208
stripe_count19535296
stripe_sectors  64
status  0
typeRAID0
total_disks 2
magic[0]0x01
magic[1]0xff
magic[2]0x01
disk 0 at disk_idx 0x
disk 1 at disk_idx 0x0001
=
ata4: Identifying devices: 0001
ata4: New devices: 0001
ata4-master: pio=PIO4 wdma=WDMA2 udma=UDMA100 cable=40 wire
acd0: setting UDMA100
ata4: device_reset timeout=590us
acd0: hp BDDVDRW CA30N/EC03 DVDR drive at ata4 as master
acd0: read 10820KB/s (4134KB/s) write 4134KB/s (4134KB/s), 2048KB
buffer, UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s
acd0: Reads: CDR, CDRW, CDDA stream, DVDROM, DVDR, DVDRAM, packet
acd0: Writes: CDR, CDRW, DVDR, DVDRAM, test write, burnproof
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray, unlocked
acd0: Medium: DVD 120mm data disc
ata5: Identifying devices: 
ata5: New devices: 
ATA PseudoRAID loaded
** ATA PseudoRAID ar0 Metadata **
=
format  Intel MatrixRAID
typeRAID0
flags   0x01 1READY
magic_0 0x07e20939
magic_1 0x
generation  103
total_sectors   2500517888
offset_sectors  0
heads   255
sectors 63
cylinders   155650
width   2
interleave  64
total_disks 2
disk 0:  flags = 0x0b bONLINE,ASSIGNED,PRESENT
ad4:  sectors 1250263728
disk 1:  flags = 0x0b bONLINE,ASSIGNED,PRESENT
ad6:  sectors 1250263728
=
ar0: 1220956MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID0 (stripe 32 KB) status: READY
ar0: 2500517888 sectors [155650C/255H/63S] RAID-0 subdisks defined as:
ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY using ad6 at ata3-master

Re: Install 8.2-Release AMD64 on Laptop with Raid0

2011-07-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi--

On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
 sysinstall shows 3 choices for disk drives.  ad4(600G), ad6(600G),
 ar0(RAID0)
 
 I want to use RAID0 and use the entire disk, partitioned by 'A'.
 
 Which disk do I select for installation?

ar0 is the RAID-0 volume.  However, I would advise against using Intel's Matrix 
pseudo-RAID for a boot volume, and I would also advise against using RAID-0 in 
most cases, unless you keep good backups.

RAID-1 or RAID-10 are much safer-- use geom's gmirror.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Install 8.2-Release AMD64 on Laptop with Raid0

2011-07-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 11:26 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Hi--
 
 On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
  sysinstall shows 3 choices for disk drives.  ad4(600G), ad6(600G),
  ar0(RAID0)
  
  I want to use RAID0 and use the entire disk, partitioned by 'A'.
  
  Which disk do I select for installation?
 
 ar0 is the RAID-0 volume.  However, I would advise against using Intel's 
 Matrix pseudo-RAID for a boot volume, 

Why?

I searched and did not find a reason to not use it.  Just a few
recommend against it without reasons.

tomdean

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